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slunken 09-11-2020 09:32 PM

listening to zeitgeist and it shreds
 
fuck you nobodys

you made me do this

slunken 09-11-2020 09:35 PM

like, if everyone loves billy + jimmy

this is exactly what that sounds like

i do not compute you being an idiot

ninsp 09-11-2020 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 4558930)
like, if everyone loves billy + jimmy

this is exactly what that sounds like

i do not compute you being an idiot

vocals trash
production trash
billy choir trash
there ya go

Shallowed 09-11-2020 09:40 PM

ok

slunken 09-11-2020 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558931)
vocals trash
production trash
billy choir trash
there ya go

when did you become a world famouse producer?

this sounds like early 80s sneaker-metal and it rules

Just a bunch of boys jamming big

slunken 09-11-2020 09:45 PM

do you even own a stereo system?

slunken 09-11-2020 09:45 PM

gonna need a speaker diameter size from you

Disco King 09-11-2020 10:03 PM

I listened to "United States" the other day, and it's a good track, even if the vocals could be better.

I don't think I want to listen to the album beginning-to-end, though. Maybe just put on one of the better tracks every now and then between listening to other stuff.

pinetree 09-11-2020 10:33 PM

zeitgeist sucks pretty hard but I do kinda love it

enthusaroo 09-11-2020 10:56 PM

I liked Zeitgeist when it came out. When I put it on in recent years I hear the crappy production.. but in general it's not bad.

The live version of God and Country is good.. the album version sucks.

Gossamer is the best song of SP2 and it should have been on this album but it wasn't.. how dumb.

let me think what other notes about this album..

Starz is trash

Zeigeist as a whole is 50x stronger than Shitty and So Bright.

reprise85 09-12-2020 01:07 AM

starz is good
so is neverlost
and all the b-sides
and pomp

some of the rest are alright

houseofglass11 09-12-2020 01:52 AM

It shreds...your speakers with that crazy ass DR level

Ram27 09-12-2020 02:26 AM

pomp live is a masterpiece


Disco King 09-12-2020 04:44 AM

I don't mind "Starz." It's not amazing or deep, but it's catchy.

I actually like the album version of "For God and Country." @ Me.

"Neverlost" is a top-tier SP2 song. One of the few that can stand up to SP1 material.

Disco King 09-12-2020 04:48 AM

Damn, Zeitgeist was the best SP2 was ever going to get, wasn't it?

AveryLoren 09-12-2020 05:29 AM

I had been a fan for a while when Zeitgeist came around, but it was the first time I had a chance to see them live. In a strange way it felt like the band was finally "my" band more so than watching them on MTV as a young child. I don't really see the album in a nostalgic way yet. It just freakin' rocks my socks off. I wish they would have came back with a double album and took it over the top with a sixteen minute Gossamer. The material is very strong, but there is tons of truth in the fact that the production/mixing is rough.

MyKeyZ 09-12-2020 06:32 AM

It's the best thing out of SP2.0

toase 09-12-2020 07:04 AM

WE WE WE we we we WE WE WE

FoolofaTook 09-12-2020 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4558982)
Damn, Zeitgeist was the best SP2 was ever going to get, wasn't it?

:hanging: :hanging: :hanging: :hanging:

lionheart0 09-12-2020 09:27 AM

Gotta say the live experience with those songs and Gossamer were stellar, so to speak.

themadcaplaughs 09-12-2020 09:31 AM

Looking solely at the studio version:

-Tarantula was a good single that excels in spite of the production.
-Neverlost may be the best song Billy's released post SP-1
-Starz and (Come On) Let's Go aren't particularly memorable, but as the OP said, show the fun that can result when you just have Billy and Jimmy rock the fuck out.
-United States and Doomsday Clock could be amazing if Billy didn't sound like he just woke up from a nap.

FoolofaTook 09-12-2020 09:53 AM

Stellar and Neverlost were good.

Everything else blows megalothonal dongs.

ninsp 09-12-2020 10:24 AM

Tarantula is a banger and that little breakdown is the only time Corg’s ever had that SP1 dreaminess post 2000. He also managed to get his vocals right on it. But that 15 seconds is the best thing to come out of SP2, period. Even nails the breathy vocals

Doomsday Clock could’ve been great if he would’ve screamed instead of pussing out in the bridge. Same goes for United States

Album blows

TuralyonW3 09-12-2020 10:52 AM

Only great song from this era is the song Zeitgeist which was bizarrely only on the purple target version (not even on the Best Buy silver edition which collected all the stray tracks).

Other than that I may occasionally revisit Starz, Stellar, United States, and Death from Above

Everything else is pretty much a disaster of production, vocal performance, and songwriting to a degree

Ugh I get depressed thinking about this era. So much promise. There were some cool tracks from the live shows that never got recorded properly.

houseofglass11 09-12-2020 11:04 AM

I thought neverlost was one of the weakest songs on the album. A skipper.

slunken 09-12-2020 12:25 PM

zeitgeist rules

heaviest album

Ram27 09-12-2020 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4558994)
Tarantula is a banger and that little breakdown is the only time Corg’s ever had that SP1 dreaminess post 2000. He also managed to get his vocals right on it. But that 15 seconds is the best thing to come out of SP2, period. Even nails the breathy vocals

the fact that the dreamy breakdown was so short is the most SP2 thing ever

brothahi4L 09-12-2020 02:57 PM

Zeitgeist is annoying

jimmy drevpile 09-12-2020 03:33 PM

I like it, mostly.

phang 09-12-2020 04:30 PM

I liked Zeitgeist, I thought it rocked for the most part. Live shows around the time were great too. The Billy choir was a little annoying but if that was the worst his vocal delivery was going to get, I'd have taken it. I'd rather that than the viIiIbraAaAtoOoO and dropped consonants.


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