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amoergosum 07-19-2017 12:29 PM

Madison Square Garden - 1996
 





Audio (1996-09-17) :

https://archive.org/details/tsp1996-09-17.flac16

Audio (1996-09-18):

https://archive.org/details/tsp1996-09-18.shn



"Smashing Pumpkins, Changed and Charging
By JON PARELES SEPT. 18, 1996


Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins apologized for ''the delay'' between the band's scheduled appearance at the Continental Airlines Arena in East Rutherford, N.J., on July 14, and the band's show there on Monday night. ''Not really our fault, but . . . ,'' he said with a shrug.

The concert was postponed after the band's backup keyboardist, Jonathan Melvoin, died of a heroin overdose and its drummer, Jimmy Chamberlin, was fired for drug problems. With Matt Walker of Filter sitting in on drums, the Smashing Pumpkins are a changed band: full-tilt, unambivalent arena-rockers, walloping one riff after another. It was a monolithic concert, but it built intensity almost to the end.

On its albums, the band has had more variety. In songs that vow to ''crucify the insincere,'' the Smashing Pumpkins mirror the vertiginous mood swings of adolescence. The lyrics are racked by new desires and tortured by identity crises; the singer battles outside authority and his own confusion and insecurity. Hard-rock rampages are offset by delicate tunes.

Onstage, the band skipped most of the ballads. Mr. Corgan, the band's lead singer and main songwriter, pushed his nasal voice toward raw screeches; he and James Iha, on guitars, blasted power chords and set up dueling wails of feedback.

Where Mr. Chamberlin made his cymbals splash, Mr. Walker rumbled on tom-toms like Keith Moon of the Who, making the music even brawn ier. Songs that started quietly, like ''Disarm'' or ''Tonight, Tonight,'' were soon pounding away. As if to certify its new heftiness, in the middle of ''X.Y.U.'' the band inserted the riff from ''Smoke on the Water,'' by Deep Purple, the epitome of an unrepentant 1970's hard-rock band.

Yet the Smashing Pumpkins don't want to be simple-minded rockers. With conspicuous exceptions like ''Bullet With Butterfly Wings,'' Mr. Corgan's songs are imagistic and ambiguous.

The band, with D'Arcy on bass and Dennis Flemion on keyboards, performed amid arty trappings: video screens showing kaleidoscopic images and antique films (including Georges Melies's 1902 ''Voyage to the Moon,'' an early special-effects showcase) to suggest a combination of psychedelia and science fiction. And the band turned its final encore into a rambling 20-minute jam, deliberately dissipating the concert's momentum.

Perhaps the Smashing Pumpkins wanted to prove they hadn't forgotten other options.

Opening the concert was Grant Lee Buffalo, a trio led by Grant Lee Phillips. Drawing equally on U2, the Beatles and R.E.M., the group may be on the bill to replace the grandiosity and melodrama of the songs the Smashing Pumpkins didn't play.

The two bands are to perform tonight at Madison Square Garden."

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/18/ar...-charging.html


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"Madison Square Garden, New York show review - Sept 18th 1996

Kerrang


(Thanks to Ryan for typing this review out)

For a band that’s recently endured tremendous traumas, the Smashing Pumpkins seem as unified and focused as any group in their position could be. The death of keyboardist Jonathan Melvion and the dismissal of Jimmy Chamberlin threw the Chicago stars into turbulence that could of easily swallowed them.

Thankfully, they pulled through. Tonight’s show, the first of two at Madison Square Garden rescheduled from July, underlines the facts that the problems are over, if not forgotten. With a new line up in place, the Pumpkins are ready to deliver an unholy roar of a set that leaves you scratching your head over the constant reports that they are one of the arena rock’s wobblier spectacles.

Maybe that used to be the case. But tonight, from the moody opening of ‘Porcelina of the Vast Oceans’ onward, the Pumpkins are a tight energetic unit, bolstered by the powerhouse drumming of Matt Walker (on loan from Filter). Keyboardist Dennis Flemion, more commonly a member of the Frogs, has more of a symbolic role, being a temporary replacement for the late Melvion, but his subtle playing rounds out what is already a full sound.

The stage show- a towering, pyramid shaped lighting rig- certainly adds a grandeur, but the raw power of songs like ‘Zero’, ‘Tonight Tonight’ and a vicious ‘Bullet with Butterfly Wings’ is what really projects the Pumpkins. Up front Corgan says little, pausing only to thank his audience, but his singing brims with rage and passion, as if he wants to prove his by sheer vocal power that his band will not be crushed by the problems faced early this summer. Corgan stalks the stage, leaping at his mike stand like a crazed dog, whilst bassist D’Arcy and guitarist James Iha provide less flashy, though steady, support on either side.

The only serious mishap occurs at the show’s finale. After several excellent encores- which unfortunately includes Evan Dando of the Lemon heads dancing like an idiot- the band end the night with a half hour jam on Fuck You (An Ode To Now One) which literally empties the room and ends the concert on a down beat note. It’s the only stain on a show that otherwise marks the return of the Smashing Pumpkins to full power.

Most Rocking Moment: The one-two punch of ‘Bullet with Butterfly Wings’ and ‘Cherub Rock’.

Least Rocking Moment: Lemon head Evan Dando’s spasmodic onstage dancing.

Best Onstage Quote: Thanks you for waiting very patiently for us to come back...” Billy Corgan.

Verdict: Back from the edge. "

http://www.starla.org/articles/kcr.htm


http://i.imgur.com/Je3boxu.jpg

Silvermayo 07-19-2017 12:47 PM

Something brewing? Seems so...

BurtSampson 07-19-2017 12:51 PM

That fake poster drives me nuts. Why would a band ever say "featuring special guest keyboardist" unless it was elton fucking joe or something

cork_soaker 07-19-2017 12:52 PM

many thx to ryan

cork_soaker 07-19-2017 12:55 PM

first article was evidently penned by a high school freshman

cork_soaker 07-19-2017 12:56 PM

thx for nothing, jon pareleleleles

Ram27 07-19-2017 01:20 PM

he looks like fucking oj simpson in that black and white poster

Pizza Club 07-19-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvermayo (Post 4372663)
Something brewing? Seems so...

It does seem really odd that they would post this randomly when the shows weren't really something to be notable for for good reasons.

Forgotten Child 07-19-2017 04:05 PM

I don't know if you guys noticed it, but they deleted EVERY SINGLE picture from their Instagram profile. The only pic there is that Madison Square Garden poster.

cork_soaker 07-19-2017 04:11 PM

how long (in recent times) has smashingpumpkins.com been up?

the "nexus," or eh, the "panopticon" is still up, too

cork_soaker 07-19-2017 04:17 PM

http://i.imgur.com/kh93Bca.jpg

Unicycle 07-19-2017 04:23 PM

The official FB page links to SP.com and there's no link to the nexus anywhere. HMMMM weird

Machina mystery lives on

Ram27 07-19-2017 04:45 PM

hmmmmm. things have gotten interesting

also this is the second time in the last week that they've posted something eerily similar to what we've been talking about in here

wounded 07-19-2017 04:55 PM

it's probably just for bilbo's signature acoustic


amoergosum 07-19-2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child (Post 4372700)
I don't know if you guys noticed it, but they deleted EVERY SINGLE picture from their Instagram profile. The only pic there is that Madison Square Garden poster.


Billy, Jimmy, James, D'Arcy.

Madison Square Garden.

2018.



myosis 07-19-2017 05:09 PM

jimmy didn't play at that 96 show

Forgotten Child 07-19-2017 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amoergosum (Post 4372708)
Billy, Jimmy, James, D'Arcy.

Madison Square Garden.

2018.



I actually think something like that is happening.

It would be cool if they reunited all the past members for a last concert. I mean, a genuine final concert!

Ram27 07-19-2017 05:28 PM

and it'll never come out either

Ram27 07-19-2017 05:34 PM

that'd be fucking amazing though. if i got tickets i'd just be sobbing the whole night. fuckin mellon collie comes over the pa then they blast into tonight tonight

behived 07-19-2017 07:50 PM

If you look at the html code of the site it is actually decent code! No wix or any other slow framework...

The Omega Concern 07-19-2017 09:56 PM

Elton Joe?


Who's Elton Joe? that name rocks!

Ram27 07-19-2017 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by behived (Post 4372722)
If you look at the html code of the site it is actually decent code! No wix or any other slow framework...

also this is a comment in one of the css files

Quote:

Code:

/*!
Styles for full screen background video demo
*/


and there's further stuff concerning media

guess we're getting a video of...something soon

Ram27 07-19-2017 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cork_soaker (Post 4372701)
how long (in recent times) has smashingpumpkins.com been up?

the "nexus," or eh, the "panopticon" is still up, too

last capture on the wayback machine was 6/27, where it redirects to smashingpumpkinsnexus.com

myosis 07-19-2017 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by behived (Post 4372722)
If you look at the html code of the site it is actually decent code! No wix or any other slow framework...

i think you're on to something...

prepare for massive influx of long-gone posters.

Funbags 07-19-2017 11:26 PM

James: "If I'm gonna be part of this, you're going to need to get your web presence in order".

BurtSampson 07-19-2017 11:49 PM

Maybe Bobo read my post about how rad the 96 Silvercranks are

Shadaloo 07-20-2017 12:40 AM

fuck yes fuck yes fuck something cool fuck

behived 07-20-2017 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funbags (Post 4372762)
James: "If I'm gonna be part of this, you're going to need to get your web presence in order".

First decent thing labeled Smashing Pumpkins in years...

Cool As Ice Cream 07-20-2017 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by behived (Post 4372722)
If you look at the html code of the site it is actually decent code! No wix or any other slow framework...

:bananadance:

amoergosum 07-20-2017 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by behived (Post 4372722)
If you look at the html code of the site it is actually decent code! No wix or any other slow framework...


http://i57.tinypic.com/mj3l1w.png


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