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10-09-2006, 11:20 AM
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People can be so stupid...
This article makes me really angry. It starts off okay... it's okay for the public to have concerns, but the quotes at the end just make me so angry:
Notes before you read this: people who actually go to these hearings are usually insane... or elderly. Also, in regards to the dust production... it's not like the plant just crushes rock and lets teh dust fly everywhere... some stuff is done wet to avoid dust, there are covers over belts and crushing equipment... there are trucks with huge water tanks on the back that just drive around spraying everything down with water. Anyway... http://www.aggregateresearch.com/agg...le.asp?id=9728 Quarry opponents raise health concerns 06 October 2006 Comments Add your Comment (NEW HANOVER, Pennsylvania) -- Children will grow sick and die, ill seniors will suffer and roads will fall apart faster if a proposed quarry is allowed to open, state regulators were told Tuesday night. Of the 27 people who addressed representatives of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection during a public hearing on a permit for the Gibraltar Rock Inc.'s air pollution control plan, all but one spoke against the project. That one person -- Uday Patankar -- is the vice president of The Silvi Group Companies, which owns Gibraltar Rock Inc. of Fairless Hills and which is the official applicant. About 90 people attended the hearing. Speaker after speaker came from among them to the podium set up in the auditorium of New Hanover/Upper Frederick Elementary School. They predicted the dust from the proposed rock crushing operation -- within dusting distance of both the school in which they were standing and Perkiomen Valley Academy -- would cause additional asthma attacks among children already suffering from the chronic disease and generate new cases among those who now breathe freely. The weekly truck runs of 300 or so would result in the death of children awaiting school buses along the narrow roads, they said. The blasting would disturb their peace, erode their quality of life and threaten a clean and dependable groundwater supply, they said. And years from now, when the dire warnings of the health dangers those nearby will face are proven true, it will be far too late, they said. Seniors, parents, political candidates, activists, clergy, health professionals and even children all pleaded with the DEP to reject the project. They were met, about 90 minutes later, with silence. The DEP officials were there to listen to testimony, not to respond to it, said Francine Carlini, the air quality program manager for DEP's Southeast office in Norristown. And none of the company officials present, including company president John Silvi, disputed a single assertion made during the hearing. Instead, they sat impassively while impassioned testimony on a project that has already received one approval from the DEP proceeded at an orderly pace. The DEP's Bureau of Mining held a similar hearing in May 2003 and issued the company a permit last April. But an air quality permit, as well as township approvals, are also required before the company can begin mining rock. Tuesday's hearing was for the permit the DEP issues to regulate how much dust and particle pollution the business will be allowed to emit into the surrounding air once it begins operation, a conclusion many speakers seemed to conclude is foregone. "The bottom line is this is all about time and money," said Tim McCoy, a Big Road resident of Obelisk who described himself as a truck driver and third-generation farmer of the region. "The people who are coming in don't have to breath the crap we will," he said of the quarry company. "They'll make their money. They don't care about tomorrow.' The decision will favor the company, McCoy predicted. "I can stand here right now and the truth doesn't matter, it's all said and done," he said. "If you can live and sleep and die with that, well that's on you," he told the regulators. Children will be among those who will die if the project is approved, said the Rev. James Shelly, pastor of St. Paul's Lutheran Church in Obelisk for 28 years. "We have narrow roads and with 90 trucks daily traveling them, there will be children killed by trucks over time," he said. "It is incredible to me that a quarry would be considered a half-mile upwind of two elementary schools with a total of 800 students," said Jim Jessum, a respiratory therapist who said the dust from the rock crusher would cause problems for nearby seniors with emphysema. "Seven to 10 percent of children have asthma, so that means you will be aggravating the condition for 55 to 80 kids and you're going to have a lot more cases if that quarry is built than if it isn't," Jessum said. He said asthma is the No. 1 cause of school absenteeism nationally and the No. 3 cause of pediatric hospital visits "and that's without a quarry next to them." "I have heard nothing to suggest any of this is safe for children," said Dolores Shank-Samiec of Perkiomenville, a mother of two children at the school. "If it has no positive effect, and no neutral effect, it can only have a negative effect," she said. Missouri McCoy agreed. The 10-year-old Big Road resident told the regulators, "I'm a kid and a few friends of mine have asthma and I've seen them wheezing, having trouble breathing after they run around at recess," McCoy said. "When the dust comes by, it's just going to make it twice as worse," he said. "If a lot of kids need the inhalers now and have to go to the nurse's office, imagine if all the kids got asthma and thousands of kids are all trying to go to the nurse's office." Fellow student and fellow 10-year-old Kimberly DelPort of Gilbertsville told the regulators she is one of those students who visits the nurse to use her inhaler. "We don't want to make this air any worse for us to breathe," she said. The old are worried as well. "I have a problem with my heart, a spot on my lung and I don't need this," said Greg Ginkiewicz of New Hanover Square Road. Jeanette Moll lives "200 feet from where this will be" and her husband uses an inhaler to breathe. "We have lived there for 30 years and our house is all we have," Moll said. "If that quarry goes in, there's no way we'll be able to retire here. What are we supposed to do?" Chip Conlan of Woodland Road said one of the few things that has kept in check the asthma with which he has struggled all his life is regular exercise, a practice now to be made more dangerous by the presence of rock dust in the air. "The question is not if rock dust is dangerous," said Robert Wood of Reifsnyder Road. "We have known for 100 years, rock dust is dangerous." He argued that while the DEP may claim the proposed operation will stay within regulatory limits, those regulations will ultimately prove unprotective of human health. "When the asbestos industry was in operation, they were within regulatory limits; when the coal industry was operating, they were within regulatory limits while miners were developing black lung and the textile industry was within regulatory limits when its workers were developing brown lung," Wood argued. Robert Swanick of Heimbach Road in Upper Frederick selected an even more infamous public health analogy. He said the debate about the safety of the rock dust is "similar to the 50-year debate about the impact of cigarette smoke on health and cancer cases in the community. "The only way we'll really know is, like tobacco, after people die. It's just a question of how long we have to wait before we know who was right," Swanick said. "And we're not mining gold or gems, we're mining rock. That we would put in jeopardy the lives of children and senior citizens to mine rock is beyond my personal comprehension," he said. After the hearing, Carlini told a reporter that the regulations governing this application date back to the 1970s, but they only supply a "baseline standard" of protection. Further protection is provided in the regulations because they also allow the DEP to impose something called "best available technology" on the applicant, requiring the most up-to-date pollution control measures on the site. She conceded, however, that should an even better technology be revealed the day after the permit is approved, the state cannot mandate the company put it into place. Carlini said that in the 10 years she has run this department at DEP, this is the first new quarry application she has seen or processed. The comment period ends Nov. 2 and, should the permit be approved subsequent to that, the public has 30 days to appeal that decision, Carlini said. Although the regulations under which the application must be considered are enacted in the name of public health, they are not protective, said Roger Buchanan of Perkiomenville, president of Paradise Watchdogs. "We are fragile human beings and that which makes us human will never be heard if we're only listened to within the bureaucratic framework of this hearing," he said. Shelly, too, asked the regulators to look beyond their rules. "How do you and I want to be remembered in the next generation," he asked the state regulators. "Will we ask ourselves if it was right for us to sell a birthright for the next generation?" Tisha O'Brien of Wagner Road said the environmental impact of the project will go beyond human health. It will affect plants, animals, habitats, wetlands, water supplies -- in short, everything. "We want it all protected and that's your job," she said. "You need to do it whether just one person shows up here or everyone is coming to speak for one." |
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10-09-2006, 11:27 AM
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But don't worry, people will begin to bitch about mud on the roads from the mud created by the water to avoid dust |
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10-09-2006, 02:27 PM
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Bengals opponents raise warren moon concerns
06 October 2006 Comments Add your Comment (NEW HANOVER, Pennsylvania) -- Children will grow sick and die, ill seniors will suffer and roads will fall apart faster if a proposed bengals is allowed to open, state regulators were told Game day night. Of the 27 fans who addressed representatives of the Pennsylvania NFLartment of Touchdownal Protection during a public hearing on a permit for the Gibraltar Rock Inc.'s air pollution control plan, all but one spoke against the fantasy draft. That one ball fan -- Uday Patankar -- is the vice president of The Silvi Group Companies, which owns Gibraltar Rock Inc. of Fairless Hills and which is the official applicant. About 90 fans attended the hearing. Speaker after speaker came from among them to the podium set up in the auditorium of New Hanover/Upper Frederick Elementary Stadium. They predicted the dust from the proposed rock crushing operation -- within dusting distance of both the stadium in which they were standing and Perkiomen Valley Academy -- would cause additional asthma attacks among children already suffering from the chronic disease and generate new cases among those who now breathe freely. The weekly linebacker runs of 300 or so would result in the death of children awaiting stadium buses along the narrow roads, they said. The blasting would disturb their peace, erode their quality of fantasy game and threaten a clean and NFLendable groundwater supply, they said. And years from now, when the dire warnings of the warren moon dangers those nearby will face are proven true, it will be far too late, they said. Seniors, parents, political candidates, activists, clergy, warren moon professionals and even children all pleaded with the NFL to reject the fantasy draft. They were met, about 90 minutes later, with silence. The NFL officials were there to listen to testimony, not to respond to it, said Francine Carlini, the air quality program manager for NFL's Southeast office in Norristown. And none of the franchise officials present, including franchise president John Silvi, disputed a single assertion made during the hearing. Instead, they sat impassively while impassioned testimony on a fantasy draft that has already received one approval from the NFL proceeded at an orderly pace. The NFL's Bureau of Football held a similar hearing in May 2003 and issued the franchise a permit last April. But an air quality permit, as well as township approvals, are also required before the franchise can begin football rock. Game day's hearing was for the permit the NFL issues to regulate how much dust and particle pollution the business will be allowed to emit into the surrounding air once it begins operation, a conclusion many speakers seemed to conclude is foregone. "The bottom line is this is all about time and pass completions," said Tim McCoy, a Big Road resident of Obelisk who described himself as a linebacker driver and third-generation farmer of the region. "The fans who are coming in don't have to breath the crap we will," he said of the bengals franchise. "They'll make their pass completions. They don't care about tomorrow.' The decision will favor the franchise, McCoy predicted. "I can stand here right now and the truth doesn't matter, it's all said and done," he said. "If you can live and sleep and die with that, well that's on you," he told the regulators. Children will be among those who will die if the fantasy draft is approved, said the Rev. James Shelly, pastor of St. Paul's Lutheran Church in Obelisk for 28 years. "We have narrow roads and with 90 linemen daily traveling them, there will be children killed by linemen over time," he said. "It is incredible to me that a bengals would be considered a half-mile upwind of two elementary stadiums with a total of 800 students," said Jim Jessum, a respiratory therapist who said the dust from the rock crusher would cause problems for nearby seniors with emphysema. "Seven to 10 percent of children have asthma, so that means you will be aggravating the condition for 55 to 80 kids and you're going to have a lot more cases if that bengals is built than if it isn't," Jessum said. He said asthma is the No. 1 cause of stadium absenteeism nationally and the No. 3 cause of pediatric hospital visits "and that's without a bengals next to them." "I have heard nothing to suggest any of this is safe for children," said Dolores Shank-Samiec of Perkiomenville, a mother of two children at the stadium. "If it has no positive effect, and no neutral effect, it can only have a negative effect," she said. Missouri McCoy agreed. The 10-year-old Big Road resident told the regulators, "I'm a kid and a few friends of mine have asthma and I've seen them wheezing, having trouble breathing after they run around at recess," McCoy said. "When the dust comes by, it's just going to make it twice as worse," he said. "If a lot of kids need the inhalers now and have to go to the nurse's office, imagine if all the kids got asthma and thousands of kids are all trying to go to the nurse's office." Fellow student and fellow 10-year-old Kimberly DelPort of Gilbertsville told the regulators she is one of those students who visits the nurse to use her inhaler. "We don't want to make this air any worse for us to breathe," she said. The old are worried as well. "I have a problem with my fandom, a spot on my lung and I don't need this," said Greg Ginkiewicz of New Hanover Square Road. Jeanette Moll lives "200 feet from where this will be" and her husband uses an inhaler to breathe. "We have lived there for 30 years and our house is all we have," Moll said. "If that bengals goes in, there's no way we'll be able to retire here. What are we supposed to do?" Chip Conlan of Woodland Road said one of the few things that has kept in check the asthma with which he has struggled all his fantasy game is regular exercise, a practice now to be made more dangerous by the presence of rock dust in the air. "The question is not if rock dust is dangerous," said Robert Wood of Reifsnyder Road. "We have known for 100 years, rock dust is dangerous." He argued that while the NFL may claim the proposed operation will stay within regulatory limits, those regulations will ultimately prove unprotective of bowl game warren moon. "When the asbestos industry was in operation, they were within regulatory limits; when the coal industry was operating, they were within regulatory limits while miners were developing black lung and the textile industry was within regulatory limits when its workers were developing brown lung," Wood argued. Robert Swanick of Heimbach Road in Upper Frederick selected an even more infamous public warren moon analogy. He said the debate about the safety of the rock dust is "similar to the 50-year debate about the impact of cigarette smoke on warren moon and cancer cases in the community. "The only way we'll really know is, like tobacco, after fans die. It's just a question of how long we have to wait before we know who was right," Swanick said. "And we're not football gold or gems, we're football rock. That we would put in jeopardy the lives of children and senior citizens to mine rock is beyond my ball fanal comprehension," he said. After the hearing, Carlini told a reporter that the regulations governing this application date back to the 1970s, but they only supply a "baseline standard" of protection. Further protection is provided in the regulations because they also allow the NFL to impose something called "best available technology" on the applicant, requiring the most up-to-date pollution control measures on the site. She conceded, however, that should an even better technology be revealed the day after the permit is approved, the state cannot mandate the franchise put it into place. Carlini said that in the 10 years she has run this NFLartment at NFL, this is the first new bengals application she has seen or processed. The comment period ends Nov. 2 and, should the permit be approved subsequent to that, the public has 30 days to appeal that decision, Carlini said. Although the regulations under which the application must be considered are enacted in the name of public warren moon, they are not protective, said Roger Buchanan of Perkiomenville, president of Paradise Watchdogs. "We are fragile bowl game beings and that which makes us bowl game will never be heard if we're only listened to within the bureaucratic framework of this hearing," he said. Shelly, too, asked the regulators to look beyond their rules. "How do you and I want to be remembered in the next generation," he asked the state regulators. "Will we ask ourselves if it was right for us to sell a birthright for the next generation?" Tisha O'Brien of Wagner Road said the touchdownal impact of the fantasy draft will go beyond bowl game warren moon. It will affect plants, animals, habitats, wetlands, water supplies -- in short, everything. "We want it all protected and that's your job," she said. "You need to do it whether just one ball fan shows up here or everyone is coming to speak for one." |
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