Chicago might require microchip IDs for dogs

sppunk · 05-26-2006, 06:27 PM

Hell yes. You rock, Chicago.

City might require microchip IDs for dogs

May 26, 2006
BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Owners of Chicago's estimated 600,000 dogs would be required to microchip their pets, limit tethering, pay stiff fines for letting them roam free and choose between neutering and sharply higher license fees, under a sweeping crackdown proposed by an influential alderman.

Grooming, boarding and doggie day-care facilities would be licensed and subject to strict operating standards under the legislative package championed by License Committee Chairman Eugene Schulter (47th).

A lifelong dog lover whose deceased Irish terriers Kerry and Conner were "part of the family," Schulter said he's driven by a desire to "create a safer and better environment" for Chicago's dogs.

Never was that need more evident than 18 months ago, when a dozen dogs and four cats were discovered living in filth without food or water at an unattended boarding facility at Leland and Clark in Schulter's North Side ward.

That's when Schulter put his foot down. He convened a panel of 15 experts -- including veterinarians -- and asked them to come up with a massive rewrite of the city's animal-care ordinance that reins in irresponsible care that ultimately leads to aggressive behavior.

'Take better care of our dogs'

"We're setting up an infrastructure in our city to take better care of our dogs. People who don't, it sets a process in place, after repeat offenses, to take those dogs away from them and putting them in loving and caring environments," Schulter said. "In many areas of the city, we have a huge problem with dogs running wild and biting kids and adults. This will start to address some of those issues."

Initially, Schulter was planning to require identifying microchips, at a cost of $25, only for those dogs boarded at kennels. But, after Hurricane Katrina, he decided to broaden it to ******* all dogs six months or older. "There were so many dogs that were lost because they could not find pet owners. That has encouraged us to look at this more comprehensively" and require microchip scanners at kennels, Schulter said.

Steve Dale, a radio talk show host and longtime local activist on pet issues, said mandatory microchipping would help identify "repeat offender" dogs.

Equally important, Dale said, are the proposals to limit tethering -- which tends to cause aggressive behavior -- to three hours over a 24-hour period with food and water, and to increase tenfold -- to $50 -- the fee for licensing a non-neutered dog.

fspielman@suntimes.com

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/...s-pets26.html#

ammy · 05-26-2006, 06:38 PM

while in theory it's good.. i don't see this fixing the problem they were going out to get.

edit: uh what alex said.

05-26-2006, 06:40 PM

"I like my TV loud, my beer cold and my threads on netphoria flaaaaaaaaming"

05-26-2006, 06:41 PM

i bet some halfwitted liberal came up with this bullshit.

sppunk · 05-26-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by refills 79 cents

"I like my TV loud, my beer cold and my threads on netphoria flaaaaaaaaming"

Awesome!

I think the registering doggy day-care clinics is idiotic. The fines are what I'm in support of - free-roaming pets of any kind are a problem in many, many places.

Travis Meeks · 05-26-2006, 06:59 PM

Chris, you're just scared that a puppy might give you a good whooping

sppunk · 05-26-2006, 07:01 PM

Hell yeah. When I was six my kidney was punctured by a free-roaming doberman. It was apparently the dog's third attack and was put down that night.

KrazeeStacee · 05-26-2006, 07:03 PM

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Equally important, Dale said, are the proposals to limit tethering -- which tends to cause aggressive behavior -- to three hours over a 24-hour period with food and water, and to increase tenfold -- to $50 -- the fee for licensing a non-neutered dog.

THAT is great...they are really starting to get the idea, I'm impressed!

The whole ID thing is a good idea for what they said about the Katrina animals being lost - everyone should have their dogs microchipped anyway, it's just a good idea. A lot of people don't even put tags on their dogs...not to mention those that do can lose them somehow if they get out.

Travis Meeks · 05-26-2006, 07:03 PM

That's crazy. How'd they get the dog off of you? Does that kidney still function?

sppunk · 05-26-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jai Guru Deva

That's crazy. How'd they get the dog off of you? Does that kidney still function?

From what I remember (basically from stories from my parents), a neighbor dog "attacked" the one that chased me down and got it off of me.

Luckily I had a leather jacket on - the kidney was just ever-so-slightly punctured so it just required a night in the ER and some medication. That jacket really saved that kidney!

sppunk · 05-26-2006, 07:08 PM

An aside, Wednesday was apparently pet night at the Harrisburg Senators game and I saw the biggest poodle EVER - that thing was nearly 3.5 feet tall.

Aeroplane · 05-26-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

THAT is great...they are really starting to get the idea, I'm impressed!

The whole ID thing is a good idea for what they said about the Katrina animals being lost - everyone should have their dogs microchipped anyway, it's just a good idea. A lot of people don't even put tags on their dogs...not to mention those that do can lose them somehow if they get out.

i knew i'd see you in here.

pink_ribbon_scars · 05-26-2006, 09:03 PM

aw, i love giant poodles

i think microchipping any living things is sort of weird and it makes me uncomfotable

Esty · 05-26-2006, 09:06 PM

We're next liz.

pink_ribbon_scars · 05-26-2006, 09:13 PM

I know, and I think that's exactly why it makes me uncomfortable.

ravenguy2000 · 05-26-2006, 09:24 PM

I want a clock implanted into my arm.

KrazeeStacee · 05-26-2006, 09:48 PM

Well, I mean, microchipping an animal that we basically created that can't really survive on it's own in our world is a good idea to me. Especially since there are so many incredibly irresponsible dog owners, and so many cruel people that would steal your dog out of your yard to use as bait for dog fighting.

Not to mention things like Katrina that happen and the animals are left behind to fend for themselves, with no clue as to what the hell is going on and no way to contact their humans.

It's not like they can just tell you their name, address, and phone number.

KrazeeStacee · 05-26-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeroplane

i knew i'd see you in here.

Always

sppunk · 05-26-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenguy2000

I want a cock implanted into my arm.

What, your ass already tired?

pink_ribbon_scars · 05-26-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Well, I mean, microchipping an animal that we basically created that can't really survive on it's own in our world is a good idea to me. Especially since there are so many incredibly irresponsible dog owners, and so many cruel people that would steal your dog out of your yard to use as bait for dog fighting.

Not to mention things like Katrina that happen and the animals are left behind to fend for themselves, with no clue as to what the hell is going on and no way to contact their humans.

It's not like they can just tell you their name, address, and phone number.

i understand all that and i don't really disagree with any of it, other than that i am honestly worried that it would impant the idea into people that it's normal to microchip animals, and with the way that people see their dogs as members of the family, soon enough i really believe that it could help lead to acceptance of microchipping people, which i believe would be one of the worst things that could happen. america is getting scarier and scarier to me bit by bit, and i just don't want any more of out privacy to go slipping away. it might sound like a leap to go from dogs to humans, but i don't think it's that unlikely in the long term. and if that's the case, then i don't think it's worth it.

Karl Connor · 05-26-2006, 10:10 PM

it would be a slippery slope and could lead to parent microchipping their kids and shit ... but as somebody who's lost pets dear to be, it was a really heartbreaking experience. yeah there's LOST DOG signs and centers that specialize in checking to see if apprehended animals are lost ones but i think it wouldn't hurt to put a chip in them if science allows for a safe way for implementation... and then you have things like Katrina. having a close pet die is one thing but just losing him/her by circumstance is more painful because you don't know what happened to him and your imagination assumes the worst

Karl Connor · 05-26-2006, 10:14 PM

and btw i don't feel that microchips should be "required"

or i don't see why they should be. but it could provided solutions for owners who want to care for their animals as much as they can

Mariner · 05-26-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

From what I remember (basically from stories from my parents), a neighbor dog "attacked" the one that chased me down and got it off of me.

well it's a good thing the neighbor dog was also not on a leash...

KrazeeStacee · 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pink_ribbon_scars

i understand all that and i don't really disagree with any of it, other than that i am honestly worried that it would impant the idea into people that it's normal to microchip animals, and with the way that people see their dogs as members of the family, soon enough i really believe that it could help lead to acceptance of microchipping people, which i believe would be one of the worst things that could happen. america is getting scarier and scarier to me bit by bit, and i just don't want any more of out privacy to go slipping away. it might sound like a leap to go from dogs to humans, but i don't think it's that unlikely in the long term. and if that's the case, then i don't think it's worth it.

Yeah I know what you mean, it's just a leap to me, like you said. Humans have things like cellphones and gps systems, and we know how to use them so I don't see humans ever getting microchipped. Or at least the same type of mircrochipping dogs get. Dogs just basically get a serial number imbedded into their skin so when they're found as strays they can be scanned and the owners can be located...saves shelters a LOT of time going through ads and contacting other shelters and contacting the city. It's like carrying your ID in your wallet wherever you go...and that's not a scary thing, you know what I mean? Dogs don't have wallets.

KrazeeStacee · 05-26-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall Sandell

it would be a slippery slope and could lead to parent microchipping their kids and shit

That's what cellphones are for!

KrazeeStacee · 05-26-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

that reins in irresponsible care that ultimately leads to aggressive behavior.

This is actually my favorite part...just a year ago we were worried about a possible breed ban - enough people spoke up and explained the REAL REASONS dogs, not breeds, become aggressive. It's a huge turn around, in the right direction. It sets an example...yay

KrazeeStacee · 05-26-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall Sandell

and btw i don't feel that microchips should be "required"

or i don't see why they should be. but it could provided solutions for owners who want to care for their animals as much as they can

Well like they said, there are tons of people who let their dogs roam around the neighborhood, a lot of people who don't properly contain their dogs so they're constantly getting loose. Being able to locate the owners quickly and keeping records of how many times the dogs have gotten loose, they can start taking action on these idiots that DON'T want to care for their animals as much as they can, if at all.

Not to mention intact dogs, which not only are more likely to be aggressive, can go out and reproduce...which isn't good.

Put all of that in a huge setting like Chicago and you have yourself a very big problem.

wHATcOLOR · 05-26-2006, 11:23 PM

dogs are total faggots

meow · 05-27-2006, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

The whole ID thing is a good idea for what they said about the Katrina animals being lost

I'm sorry, but i have to comment on this.... I am an animal lover, no doubt about that.... but lets be realistic. It should not be high on the priority list to reunite pets with families... shouldn't we be using the tax dollars for helping the citizens who now have nothing?

Oh Great. Rufus belongs to Mr. John Randolf that live(d) at 34298 West Elm Drive. Now... How do we find Mr. Randolf?

mirrar · 05-27-2006, 01:06 AM

making anyone who is not low income pay for it makes a lot of sense. small town sign tactics don't work nearly as well in a big city. if you own an animal you're risking it getting lost, and having the humane society/pound take care of it costs money. a one time microchip fee vs. the cost of housing/feeding/giving vet care to your lost animal, with many animals going missing multiple times. most shelters only charge a small fee to pick up a lost animal, and far more become the shelters responsibility than get picked up.

with the money shelters and pounds are saving, they can spend rescuing abandoned pets, instead of feeding someones fat purebread that wandered away. plus, you know, it's a lot easier to get your pet back and you can't really argue with that... unless like i mentioned before you are low income and struggling even to feed your children, then it becomes unreasonable. however, then there's a danger of owners not even having the finances to feed and take basic vet care of their animals. as sad as it is some of those animals should be given the chance to get a better home via the shelter system.

the humane society here microchips all their animals, and it's *******d in the 25 dollar adoption fee. i know a lot of people who've found their animals due to microchipping, and it sure makes me feel better knowing my cats are in case they ever got out.

05-26-2006, 06:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
sppunk syys hutl Location: Fenway park Posts: 30,498	Chicago might require microchip IDs for dogs Hell yes. You rock, Chicago. City might require microchip IDs for dogs May 26, 2006 BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter Owners of Chicago's estimated 600,000 dogs would be required to microchip their pets, limit tethering, pay stiff fines for letting them roam free and choose between neutering and sharply higher license fees, under a sweeping crackdown proposed by an influential alderman. Grooming, boarding and doggie day-care facilities would be licensed and subject to strict operating standards under the legislative package championed by License Committee Chairman Eugene Schulter (47th). A lifelong dog lover whose deceased Irish terriers Kerry and Conner were "part of the family," Schulter said he's driven by a desire to "create a safer and better environment" for Chicago's dogs. Never was that need more evident than 18 months ago, when a dozen dogs and four cats were discovered living in filth without food or water at an unattended boarding facility at Leland and Clark in Schulter's North Side ward. That's when Schulter put his foot down. He convened a panel of 15 experts -- including veterinarians -- and asked them to come up with a massive rewrite of the city's animal-care ordinance that reins in irresponsible care that ultimately leads to aggressive behavior. 'Take better care of our dogs' "We're setting up an infrastructure in our city to take better care of our dogs. People who don't, it sets a process in place, after repeat offenses, to take those dogs away from them and putting them in loving and caring environments," Schulter said. "In many areas of the city, we have a huge problem with dogs running wild and biting kids and adults. This will start to address some of those issues." Initially, Schulter was planning to require identifying microchips, at a cost of $25, only for those dogs boarded at kennels. But, after Hurricane Katrina, he decided to broaden it to ******* all dogs six months or older. "There were so many dogs that were lost because they could not find pet owners. That has encouraged us to look at this more comprehensively" and require microchip scanners at kennels, Schulter said. Steve Dale, a radio talk show host and longtime local activist on pet issues, said mandatory microchipping would help identify "repeat offender" dogs. Equally important, Dale said, are the proposals to limit tethering -- which tends to cause aggressive behavior -- to three hours over a 24-hour period with food and water, and to increase tenfold -- to $50 -- the fee for licensing a non-neutered dog. fspielman@suntimes.com http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/...s-pets26.html#

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05-26-2006, 06:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
ammy yer mom Posts: 23,167	while in theory it's good.. i don't see this fixing the problem they were going out to get. edit: uh what alex said.

05-26-2006, 06:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Deleted_User Posts: n/a	"I like my TV loud, my beer cold and my threads on netphoria flaaaaaaaaming"

05-26-2006, 06:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Deleted_User Posts: n/a	i bet some halfwitted liberal came up with this bullshit.

05-26-2006, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Travis Meeks Rambling on Posts: 19,946	Chris, you're just scared that a puppy might give you a good whooping

05-26-2006, 07:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
sppunk syys hutl Location: Fenway park Posts: 30,498	Hell yeah. When I was six my kidney was punctured by a free-roaming doberman. It was apparently the dog's third attack and was put down that night.

05-26-2006, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Travis Meeks Rambling on Posts: 19,946	That's crazy. How'd they get the dog off of you? Does that kidney still function?

05-26-2006, 07:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
sppunk syys hutl Location: Fenway park Posts: 30,498	An aside, Wednesday was apparently pet night at the Harrisburg Senators game and I saw the biggest poodle EVER - that thing was nearly 3.5 feet tall.

05-26-2006, 09:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
pink_ribbon_scars At the beginning Location: GJ 1214 b Posts: 10,735	aw, i love giant poodles i think microchipping any living things is sort of weird and it makes me uncomfotable

05-26-2006, 09:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Esty 09 Netphorian of the Year Location: Waiting in line for his geranium kiss Posts: 14,433	We're next liz.

05-26-2006, 09:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
pink_ribbon_scars At the beginning Location: GJ 1214 b Posts: 10,735	I know, and I think that's exactly why it makes me uncomfortable.

05-26-2006, 09:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
ravenguy2000 NO FATS Location: NO FEMS Posts: 28,988	I want a clock implanted into my arm.

05-26-2006, 09:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
KrazeeStacee Immortal Location: Sherwood Forest Posts: 21,007	Well, I mean, microchipping an animal that we basically created that can't really survive on it's own in our world is a good idea to me. Especially since there are so many incredibly irresponsible dog owners, and so many cruel people that would steal your dog out of your yard to use as bait for dog fighting. Not to mention things like Katrina that happen and the animals are left behind to fend for themselves, with no clue as to what the hell is going on and no way to contact their humans. It's not like they can just tell you their name, address, and phone number.

05-26-2006, 10:10 PM	#21 (permalink)
Karl Connor want some candy? Posts: 18,875	it would be a slippery slope and could lead to parent microchipping their kids and shit ... but as somebody who's lost pets dear to be, it was a really heartbreaking experience. yeah there's LOST DOG signs and centers that specialize in checking to see if apprehended animals are lost ones but i think it wouldn't hurt to put a chip in them if science allows for a safe way for implementation... and then you have things like Katrina. having a close pet die is one thing but just losing him/her by circumstance is more painful because you don't know what happened to him and your imagination assumes the worst

05-26-2006, 10:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Karl Connor want some candy? Posts: 18,875	and btw i don't feel that microchips should be "required" or i don't see why they should be. but it could provided solutions for owners who want to care for their animals as much as they can

05-26-2006, 11:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
wHATcOLOR THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Location: whip that's for stealing !! whip And that's for getting blood on my whip !!! \|\| MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROCK!! Posts: 42,845	dogs are total faggots

05-27-2006, 01:06 AM	#30 (permalink)
mirrar lets keep it goinn Location: in our bedroom, after the war. Posts: 19,830	making anyone who is not low income pay for it makes a lot of sense. small town sign tactics don't work nearly as well in a big city. if you own an animal you're risking it getting lost, and having the humane society/pound take care of it costs money. a one time microchip fee vs. the cost of housing/feeding/giving vet care to your lost animal, with many animals going missing multiple times. most shelters only charge a small fee to pick up a lost animal, and far more become the shelters responsibility than get picked up. with the money shelters and pounds are saving, they can spend rescuing abandoned pets, instead of feeding someones fat purebread that wandered away. plus, you know, it's a lot easier to get your pet back and you can't really argue with that... unless like i mentioned before you are low income and struggling even to feed your children, then it becomes unreasonable. however, then there's a danger of owners not even having the finances to feed and take basic vet care of their animals. as sad as it is some of those animals should be given the chance to get a better home via the shelter system. the humane society here microchips all their animals, and it's *******d in the 25 dollar adoption fee. i know a lot of people who've found their animals due to microchipping, and it sure makes me feel better knowing my cats are in case they ever got out.