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Ensoul
04-14-2005, 11:48 PM
I'm not an ignorant fuck and of course I know not all Red Sox fans are like the one who threw a punch at Sheffield, but who else loves the little drama things that get added to this shit? Now some drunk Boston idiots taking swipes at Sheffield? fucking priceless. :rofl: also took a lot for someone of Sheffield's character to restrain himself and handle it in a very good manner. he had a total oppurtunity to put the guy in a coma, but team first, no 10-day suspension for him.

oh yeah, anyone who doesn't watch baseball won't know what the hell this topic is about, so just ignore it. thxx. :)

Mo
04-14-2005, 11:51 PM
had a red sox jacket once, and a cap.



but actually i no nothing about the team.

Sepiae
04-14-2005, 11:56 PM
A) The guy wasn't even looking at Sheffield.
B) If he was, it was one dude. (Not drunk Boston idiots.)
C) Riot police?
D) Sheffield shoved the guy and should have been ejected from the game.
E) Team first? He shoved the fan before throwing the ball back in.

MovingInSloMo
04-14-2005, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Sepiae
A) The guy wasn't even looking at Sheffield.
B) If he was, it was one dude. (Not drunk Boston idiots.)
C) Riot police?
D) Sheffield shoved the guy and should have been ejected from the game.
E) Team first? He shoved the fan before throwing the ball back in.

dingdingding.

Phobophile
04-15-2005, 12:10 AM
Normally, I'd say that this kind of situation was sad.. but this involves a yankees player being hit and when it comes to the yankees, things are different.

I think fans ought to be able to throw stuff at, spit on, curse at and hit yankees players with anything they want to.

Ensoul
04-15-2005, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Sepiae
A) The guy wasn't even looking at Sheffield.

are you kidding me? his eyes were directly on Sheffield when he was there. for the split second that he hit him, his eyes weren't on Sheffield's face, but it was certainly on Sheffield's body.

Originally posted by Sepiae
D) Sheffield shoved the guy and should have been ejected from the game.

Sheffield didn't even TOUCH the guy. if someone reaches out of the stands and throws a swing at any part of my body, I am punching their drunk ass in a coma. I am extremely surprised he kept his restraint and didn't punch him when he had the chance. in the way beginning, he had the perfect oppurtunity to knock his lights out. he didn't.

Originally posted by Sepiae
[E) Team first? He shoved the fan before throwing the ball back in.[/B]

Fan interference would have caused a ground rule double, if the umps weren't so dumbass like they were the whole game, they would understand that fan interferenc with the player in that case would result in a ground rule double. that doesn't matter though as the score would've been the same. Sheffield knew this, he swiped at him for a split second and then threw the ball back in and started VERBALLY yelling at him.




I shouldn't even be arguing such a stupid matter. Sheffield did nothing wrong here. Maybe fucked up pretty boy A-Rod would be a 'model citizen' and not do anything, but regardless, he didn't take any shit and didn't do anything drastic at once. I know the Yankees are the most hated sports team in the world and the Red Sox are the "beloved underdogs" but c'mon... some of you guys need to look at this picture.

Phobophile
04-15-2005, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Ensoul

and started VERBALLY yelling at him.



Yeah. good thing he's not a mime or else he would have been in trouble!

Sepiae
04-15-2005, 12:35 AM
Oh please. If the Red Sox are the loveable underdogs, how come ESPN has run several stories about how overplayed they are this week?

Whatever. It's the fans' responsibilities to keep their arms in the stands, and it's the players' responsibilities to be big kids and not go into the stands no matter what. He shoved at that fan and it looks like he knocked a woman down or at least scared her sufficiently. You don't know do that. I don't care if you are Gary Sheffield, Trot Nixon, Mark Bellhorn, Jason Varitek, Derek Jeter, or Vlad Guerrero. You just don't fucking do it. Is it hard? Yeah. But you don't do it.

Phobophile
04-15-2005, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Sepiae
I don't care if you are Gary Sheffield, Trot Nixon, Mark Bellhorn, Jason Varitek, Derek Jeter, or Vlad Guerrero.

Fucking namedropper.

Sepiae
04-15-2005, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Phobophile


Fucking namedropper.

What the fuck? I was trying to run the gamut from average guys to known brawlers to superstars to make a fucking point. People know I like baseball and that I know what I'm fucking talking about.

Phobophile
04-15-2005, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Sepiae


What the fuck? I was trying to run the gamut from average guys to known brawlers to superstars to make a fucking point. People know I like baseball and that I know what I'm fucking talking about.

It was pretty weird to see Vlad's name in the midst of those red sux and yuckees players.

Sepiae
04-15-2005, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Phobophile


It was pretty weird to see Vlad's name in the midst of those red sux and yuckees players.

I was adding someone I had no emotional attachment to. Because it's wrong any way you slice it, whether you are a utility player or an MVP.

Iceberg Slim
04-15-2005, 12:45 AM
y'all faggot motherfuckers

watch some football. that's a man's sport. i rock the oakland raiders jersey. got my randy moss just the other day.

Phobophile
04-15-2005, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Sepiae


I was adding someone I had no emotional attachment to. Because it's wrong any way you slice it, whether you are a utility player or an MVP.

I agree, except for when it involves yankees players. I think steinbrenner ought to come out and get his ass handed to him, as well.

Trotskilicious
04-15-2005, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Sepiae
A) The guy wasn't even looking at Sheffield.
B) If he was, it was one dude. (Not drunk Boston idiots.)
C) Riot police?
D) Sheffield shoved the guy and should have been ejected from the game.
E) Team first? He shoved the fan before throwing the ball back in.

Wrong. Boston sucks and Red Sox fans are jerks.

souvenir
04-15-2005, 10:55 AM
I love Boston and I really like the Sox, but their fans are like... Bruins fans !

guz
04-15-2005, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Ensoul
also took a lot for someone of Sheffield's character to restrain himself and handle it in a very good manner. he had a total oppurtunity to put the guy in a coma, but team first, no 10-day suspension for him.i must have seen an entirely different highlight back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back last night, because i could've sworn he went after the fan right off the bat. the fact that he missed, threw the ball in, and then held himself back doesn't change the fact that he nearly decked the guy.

and where was this actual swipe AT Sheffield? i saw all these replays last night at dinner w/ the sound off...and i'm thinking "guy wants to go for the ball....shit, players in the way, unhappily pulls away....gets in the players way....player goes for the head, game resumes...". then i read about it today and it's as if i saw an entirely different play.

both the fans and Sheffield are at fault here, i don't see how you can back either of them up. we've been over this before, fans stay off the field and players stay on it -- entirely.

Axis of Action
04-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Trotskilicious


Wrong. Boston sucks and Red Sox fans are jerks.


hahahaha :love:

Boner
04-15-2005, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Sepiae
A) The guy wasn't even looking at Sheffield.
B) If he was, it was one dude. (Not drunk Boston idiots.)
C) Riot police?
D) Sheffield shoved the guy and should have been ejected from the game.
E) Team first? He shoved the fan before throwing the ball back in.

This such a distorted view, I wouldn't even know where to begin in dismantling it.

El Savior
04-15-2005, 02:09 PM
sure that one guy was a dick but how about giving some credit to the other 32,000+ in attendance who kept their cool. Especially the ones in the direct vicinity of the incident.

Axis of Action
04-15-2005, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by El Savior
sure that one guy was a dick but how about giving some credit to the other 32,000+ in attendance who kept their cool. Especially the ones in the direct vicinity of the incident.

umm

honestly what did anyone in that stadium have to be pissed about?

"shit, we're only up 3? fuck it, let's take Sheff"

Sepiae
04-15-2005, 02:15 PM
The article on a parody site about the Red Sox taking measures to keep arms inside the walls such as providing electric shocks isn't looking so bad now.

Mr. Big
04-15-2005, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


umm

honestly what did anyone in that stadium have to be pissed about?

"shit, we're only up 3? fuck it, let's take Sheff"

maybe they were thinking

"holy shit, gary sheffield almost hit a guy."

Axis of Action
04-15-2005, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Big


maybe they were thinking

"holy shit, gary sheffield almost hit a guy."

yeah gary was definitely doing the instigating

AndySlash
04-15-2005, 02:18 PM
I only saw the replay a couple times but, to me, it looked as if the guy was going for the ball, realized he shouldn't, and was lifting his arm to get out of the way but didn't quite get there. Sheffield's just a jackass.

El Savior
04-15-2005, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


umm

honestly what did anyone in that stadium have to be pissed about?

"shit, we're only up 3? fuck it, let's take Sheff"

its a red sox/yankees game at fenway park and there's an altercation between a fan and gary fucking sheffield. think about it moron. it doesn't take much thousands of drunken sports fans to get riled up, especially in the atmosphere of such a heated rivalry. almost a 1/3 of the stadium was probably yankee fans on top of it.

so think about it. it's not only about the game. in a situation like that the score is the last thing on any fans mind. at that point the fans wanna see nothing more than a brawl.

guz
04-15-2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Big


maybe they were thinking

"holy shit, gary sheffield almost hit a guy." <img src="http://forums.netphoria.org/images/5stars.gif">

guz
04-15-2005, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by AndySlash
I only saw the replay a couple times but, to me, it looked as if the guy was going for the ball, realized he shouldn't, and was lifting his arm to get out of the way but didn't quite get there. exactly.

Mr. Big
04-15-2005, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


yeah gary was definitely doing the instigating

Alright, im not quite sure where i said he was the instigator.

I forget which person applauded sheffields "restraint", but it was a couple of them.

Then El Savior applaud's the "restraint" of the fans around sheffield after he attempted to shove the man who made contact with him.

Then you add your quip, stating that fans had nothing to be upset about.

Then i said, maybe the fans were thinking that sheffield almost hit a man.

to which you respond negating something i didnt even say.
:confused:

El Savior
04-15-2005, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Big


Then El Savior applaud's the "restraint" of the fans around sheffield after he attempted to shove the man who made contact with him.



what's with the quotations? am i wrong? that situation could have been a lot fucking worse. the pacers/pistons brawl started with a fan making contact with a player and the player approaching the fan.

Mr. Big
04-15-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by El Savior


what's with the quotations? am i wrong? that situation could have been a lot fucking worse. the pacers/pistons brawl started with a fan making contact with a player and the player approaching the fan.

i put the "restraint" in "quotations" so that "no one" would think that those were actually my opinions.

I dont think that people should be thinkin sheffield did some great deed because he didnt freak out and kill someone like they all expected. And i think that fans were to scared to even think about touching sheffield. he probably would have dismantled all of them

Ensoul
04-15-2005, 02:52 PM
the fan's facial reaction while swiping at Sheffield should tell the story here. also, the fact that he didn't even both to reach DOWN. he was aiming at Sheffield.

Mr. Big
04-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Ensoul
the fan's facial reaction while swiping at Sheffield should tell the story here. also, the fact that he didn't even both to reach DOWN. he was aiming at Sheffield.

the fan was a total douche, i concur.

Axis of Action
04-15-2005, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by El Savior


its a red sox/yankees game at fenway park and there's an altercation between a fan and gary fucking sheffield. think about it moron. it doesn't take much thousands of drunken sports fans to get riled up, especially in the atmosphere of such a heated rivalry. almost a 1/3 of the stadium was probably yankee fans on top of it.

so think about it. it's not only about the game. in a situation like that the score is the last thing on any fans mind. at that point the fans wanna see nothing more than a brawl.

I'm just saying, it's a little less than justified

I'm simply defending the Yankees, I could give a shit if there's a fight

Axis of Action
04-15-2005, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Big




Then you add your quip, stating that fans had nothing to be upset about.

Then i said, maybe the fans were thinking that sheffield almost hit a man.



I misunderstood El Savior's original statement which led me to misunderstand yours.

Trotskilicious
04-15-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


yeah gary was definitely doing the instigating

Yeah he was wearing the wrong uniform. How dare he?

Axis of Action
04-15-2005, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Trotskilicious


Yeah he was wearing the wrong uniform. How dare he?

heh

btw, the movie was Sullivan's Travels


:D

Nate the Grate
04-15-2005, 09:42 PM
you can clearly see the guy mouth "I was going for the ball!" after sheff swung at him. and there was no movement of sheff's head after he supposedly got "hit". also, the guys arm never jerks in movement, suggesting that nothing interrupted his path. a popular theory is that sheff, knowing that varitek would cruise into third with a triple, attempted to play the "fan interference" card when he felt a brush from the fan pulling his hand back.

but then again, check the avatar. all objectivity is out the window.

Trotskilicious
04-15-2005, 09:48 PM
No self respecting Spurs fan would even get into this kind of situation. You people are scum.

El Savior
04-16-2005, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Nate the Grate
you can clearly see the guy mouth "I was going for the ball!" after sheff swung at him. and there was no movement of sheff's head after he supposedly got "hit". also, the guys arm never jerks in movement, suggesting that nothing interrupted his path. a popular theory is that sheff, knowing that varitek would cruise into third with a triple, attempted to play the "fan interference" card when he felt a brush from the fan pulling his hand back.

but then again, check the avatar. all objectivity is out the window.

give it up. the guy was a dick and if the same thing happened in yankee stadium with a yankees fan it'd be interesting to see what you'd have to say about him. i'm a lifelong, die hard red sox fan but have no problem admitting that a lot of red sox fans are assholes (a lot of fans of every team are assholes... a lot of people in general are assholes). not only was the guy involved in the incident wrong, but every stupid fan that reached for the ball while it was in play is wrong. any fan that reaches for a ball in play should be immediately ejected.

and that one guy, he wasn't even bent over. he was looking in another direction presumably trying to make it look unintentional or whatever. there's no need to defend him. i'm not worried about whether or not he's a fellow red sox fan. there are millions of those and there's nothing wrong with admitting when one of them does a stupid thing.

Dead Uncle
04-16-2005, 03:19 PM
fucking red sox.

neopryn
04-16-2005, 03:20 PM
i like how sox fans justify it by saying he was going for the ball.

hello, you don't fucking reach onto the field to grab a live ball.

Dead Uncle
04-16-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by neopryn
i like how sox fans justify it by saying he was going for the ball.

hello, you don't fucking reach onto the field to grab a live ball.

even dead people know that

jesus

Trotskilicious
04-16-2005, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by neopryn
i like how sox fans justify it by saying he was going for the ball.

hello, you don't fucking reach onto the field to grab a live ball.

I've seen more intellegent, rational behavior from Oklahoma Sooners fans than I have seen from Red Sox fans.

El Savior
04-18-2005, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Trotskilicious


I've seen more intellegent, rational behavior from Oklahoma Sooners fans than I have seen from Red Sox fans.

give it up fatty, it was one fucking guy in a crowd of almost 33,000.

Trotskilicious
04-18-2005, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by El Savior


give it up fatty, it was one fucking guy in a crowd of almost 33,000.

Yet all of you continue to act like the guy didn't do anything wrong.

Trotskilicious
04-18-2005, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by El Savior


give it up fatty, it was one fucking guy in a crowd of almost 33,000.

Yet all of you continue to act like the guy didn't do anything wrong.

AndySlash
04-18-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Trotskilicious
Yet all of you continue to act like the guy didn't do anything wrong.


I know I didn't say he didn't do anything wrong- going for a live ball is definitely a really fucking stupid thing to do. But I've seen the replay a few more times now and I still don't see how it's perceived as a swipe at Sheffield.

jenniferkate
04-18-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by neopryn hello, you don't fucking reach onto the field to grab a live ball.

off with his hand!

Nimrod's Son
04-18-2005, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Sepiae
A) The guy wasn't even looking at Sheffield.
B) If he was, it was one dude. (Not drunk Boston idiots.)
C) Riot police?
D) Sheffield shoved the guy and should have been ejected from the game.
E) Team first? He shoved the fan before throwing the ball back in.
Have you been listening to WEEI? Because that is the ONLY station that has these theories.

The guy was looking RIGHT AT Sheffield. The ball was <i>on the ground.</i> Was Sheff's face on the ground? No. This guy was playing it off as if it was an accident. And yes, Sheff shoved the guy. When you get hit in the face, you shove someone away so they don't hit you again.

Originally posted by Ensoul

Fan interference would have caused a ground rule double, if the umps weren't so dumbass like they were the whole game, they would understand that fan interferenc with the player in that case would result in a ground rule double. that doesn't matter though as the score would've been the same. Sheffield knew this, he swiped at him for a split second and then threw the ball back in and started VERBALLY yelling at him.

Actually fan interference would result in a dead ball. Varitek would probably have been awarded third, depending on which base he had crossed when the ball was ruled dead.
Originally posted by El Savior


give it up. the guy was a dick and if the same thing happened in yankee stadium with a yankees fan it'd be interesting to see what you'd have to say about him. i'm a lifelong, die hard red sox fan but have no problem admitting that a lot of red sox fans are assholes (a lot of fans of every team are assholes... a lot of people in general are assholes). not only was the guy involved in the incident wrong, but every stupid fan that reached for the ball while it was in play is wrong. any fan that reaches for a ball in play should be immediately ejected.

and that one guy, he wasn't even bent over. he was looking in another direction presumably trying to make it look unintentional or whatever. there's no need to defend him. i'm not worried about whether or not he's a fellow red sox fan. there are millions of those and there's nothing wrong with admitting when one of them does a stupid thing.
It's the end of days. I agree with El Savior.
Originally posted by neopryn
i like how sox fans justify it by saying he was going for the ball.

hello, you don't fucking reach onto the field to grab a live ball. Also the ball is not 6'4" and black

Sepiae
04-18-2005, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Nimrod's Son

Have you been listening to WEEI? Because that is the ONLY station that has these theories.


No. Even though I do llike Michael Holley. I honestly wasn't defending the guy in that post, if you see what I wrote later, because anyone who puts their hands beyond the fence is a dillhole. But the night it happened, the replay I kept seeing was showing the guy facing home as he did it. He's still wrong, no matter what he did. But I still believe Sheffield was wrong too, for swiping at him after and maybe knocking down the woman next to him, and he doesn't get to be the hero for not systematically dismembering the guy. I've been trying to gauge how I'd feel about Trot Nixon or someone I like doing the same thing, and I still don't think it's okay. I know it's charged out there, and I know Sheffield was probably hearing all kinds of shit from those fans, but at the end of the day, on the playing field, I don't think you get to cross the line just because someone crossed it first. Is that idealistic? Yeah. It is. But I hate to see this stuff happen during sporting events, and someone has to be the bigger man.

El Savior
04-19-2005, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Trotskilicious


Yet all of you continue to act like the guy didn't do anything wrong.

i've said a bunch of times that the guy was fucking dick. i think taking away his season tickets was a perfect punishment.