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wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:01 PM
is 48 chords Blank Page?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9685952&blogID=21652981&Mytoken=20050412113917

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:07 PM
also, this is pretty ballsy, these blogs. awesome reads

MrPantyFAce
04-12-2005, 02:12 PM
i wonder what the poem song he was excited about.... also if he did lots of e, youd think there would be more joyful songs from that time

i wonder if he's going to talk about manson next

Axis of Action
04-12-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by MrPantyFAce
i wonder what the poem song he was excited about.... also if he did lots of e, youd think there would be more joyful songs from that time

i wonder if he's going to talk about manson next

I wonder if he's fucking going to go back to 1986, I want to hear about that shit more :mad:

RockLobster
04-12-2005, 02:16 PM
I'm surpised it was E. I would have guessed meth

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:16 PM
i'm kind of glad he's not being rigidly chronological about it, because it seems logical that he'd tire of the project before getting to 1992 or so at that level of detail

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by RockLobster
I'm surpised it was E. I would have guessed meth

yeah, same here

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:26 PM
that said, there are probably 15,000 little kids who have been listening to their parents and trying to avoid E who are about to try it this weekend

ZackZ
04-12-2005, 02:27 PM
and is often the case in the indie world, he was used to using clever production to cover up weak writing

ZING!

Axis of Action
04-12-2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Jerome
i'm kind of glad he's not being rigidly chronological about it, because it seems logical that he'd tire of the project before getting to 1992 or so at that level of detail

I mean I'm he's doing it at all

rather I hope he will return at some point to the early years

Elvis The Fat Years
04-12-2005, 02:29 PM
is he wearing the puffy shirt under a sweater on the main page?

wonderful. now he thinks he's a pirate.

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:31 PM
pirates are pretty coll though

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 02:31 PM
and just so everyone is clear about this, we are starting a new internet thing right here and right now. coll > cool.

Spaldz
04-12-2005, 02:39 PM
I think we've all dreamed of Billy rapeing us..

Spaldz
04-12-2005, 02:40 PM
The Machina Acoustic Demos rule by the way

Elvis The Fat Years
04-12-2005, 02:41 PM
seriously, what is he thinking with that shirt.

http://img184.exs.cx/img184/8194/bill0ji.jpg

RockLobster
04-12-2005, 03:20 PM
lol

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 03:34 PM
:eek:

Quiet
04-12-2005, 03:50 PM
I can't see James and D'Arcy being too happy about some of the stuff he said, such as it being common for them to be out of the studio when he's recording, them fighting him for power, etc. Not that he hasn't said most of this before.

To me, this is extremely exciting. Up until this point, we've really only known him through his music. We get a general idea of who he is, but now we're getting the true stories behind his life. I think we've learned more about Billy in the past two days than we have in the past... well, ever.

Fuck I'm excited to be a fan!

vanilla
04-12-2005, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Jerome
is 48 chords Blank Page?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9685952&blogID=21652981&Mytoken=20050412113917
i'm pretty sure it's blank page.

and wtf is wrong with people hanging outside of his house?! some people have no respect.

Quiet
04-12-2005, 04:19 PM
Anyone else like Billy even more now as a human being after reading this stuff? I've always loved the music, but as a person, I thought "Well, he seems like he could be a controlling asshole." Which I'm sure he was at times... but I'm starting to really like him.

dsheinem
04-12-2005, 04:22 PM
The new blog stuff is indeed intense. Very interesting narratives, quite well written. Despite the spelling/grammar errors that were pointed out in a different thread, it is obvious Corgan has spent some time writing and thinking about these...the language is quite visual and the descriptions are detailed.

It seems that he has improved over the writing style of even a few years ago (think: glass stories)...That bit in the poetry book about "discovering the power of the word" [or something like that] might have something to do with it.

Deleted_User
04-12-2005, 04:27 PM
copious amounts of E. who knew.

weird that this would be published within a week of that interview with trent reznor revealing that he OD'd on heroin on the fragility tour.

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 04:29 PM
and jose canseco's steroid confessions :rolleyes: :erm

alisonmonster
04-12-2005, 05:24 PM
this was really really interesting - its definitely a good way to get inside his head - i mean always thought of him as an asshole , but i never really knew where some of his anger came from - it was enlightening to read.

dishpan
04-12-2005, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by shorterplease
copious amounts of E. who knew.

weird that this would be published within a week of that interview with trent reznor revealing that he OD'd on heroin on the fragility tour.

hey where can i read that

dishpan
04-12-2005, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Jerome
is 48 chords Blank Page?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9685952&blogID=21652981&Mytoken=20050412113917


what song was playing for the previous blogs? i didnt get a chance to hear it. this one is an old rarity.

NilSineDeo
04-12-2005, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by dishpan



what song was playing for the previous blogs? i didnt get a chance to hear it. this one is an old rarity.

Billy had a heavy metal machine remix playing when the other two blogs were up.

hmm is not 48 chords, if that's what you were wondering

jimmy drevpile
04-12-2005, 05:47 PM
billy opens up at last...

new album on the way huh...

seriously tho

YAY

Dead
04-12-2005, 05:51 PM
Awesome! Yeah I want to know what this exciting poem turned into.

wHATcOLOR
04-12-2005, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Dead
Awesome! Yeah I want to know what this exciting poem turned into.


seems like blank page, that's my guess. given the lyrical content and the fact that it does have a bunch of non-repeating chords. unless its something we haven't heard

Quiet CD
04-12-2005, 05:55 PM
there was an article in Rolling Stone way back when mentioning Marilyn Manson and him doing what he called happy pills, and mentioning something like sea monkeys... that was a long time ago...

great great stories...

Dead
04-12-2005, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Jerome

seems like blank page, that's my guess. given the lyrical content and the fact that it does have a bunch of non-repeating chords. unless its something we haven't heard
I don't know anything about chords, but I'm gonna listen to it now and see if it sounds like its about him being pissed at his ex wife.

Quiet CD
04-12-2005, 06:03 PM
wtf is up with my mistake replacing that alternate version of heavy metal machine?

i really hope this isn't a precursor to Machina III

Dead
04-12-2005, 06:05 PM
Yeah I guess this could be about his ex. She must have cheated on him.

Dead
04-12-2005, 06:15 PM
Going by the Adore credits, it's gotta be Blank Page if it's on the album.

Phoenix Down
04-12-2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Dead
Yeah I guess this could be about his ex. She must have cheated on him.

you just found that out? after all those years?

Deleted_User
04-12-2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by dishpan


hey where can i read that
http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=9511

ZWANPHONY
04-12-2005, 07:10 PM
i counted them, there was like 42 chords i think before it repeated...

and he's not talking about, once i play an Aminor, i can't play it again...he's talking about what he plays over two measures i think...like he begins with Gmaj Dmin Amin Cmaj Emin Dmin Amin C in the intro and doesn't repeat that little doozie again until verse 2 begins...

and yeah, that song kinda rambles on, so i think he just woke up and wrote that one out really quick.

take a day, plant some trees, may they shade, you from me, may your children, play beneath.... man i love this part

except, did billy and chris have children or did she remarry?

NilSineDeo
04-12-2005, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY
take a day, plant some trees, may they shade, you from me, may your children, play beneath.... man i love this part

except, did billy and chris have children or did she remarry?

i dunno, but i agree that those lines are kickass.

oh, and i'm glad i wasn't the only one who counted. lol

17 Seconds
04-12-2005, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Jerome
is 48 chords Blank Page?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9685952&blogID=21652981&Mytoken=20050412113917

My Mistake? This guess is coming from someone who knows nothing about chords/music.

redbreegull
04-12-2005, 08:53 PM
I am very surprised that Billy did ecstacy. Especially after he witnessed drugs (less powerful ones at that) nearly tear his band apart.

ZWANPHONY
04-12-2005, 08:57 PM
E is worse than heroin... ? :rolleyes:

man, those newage heroin shooting ravers are really pussies.

douglas78
04-12-2005, 09:03 PM
man, now this is the age of confession's man!

redbreegull
04-12-2005, 09:04 PM
Well, the only information I have on both those drugs is what I've been told, but I was under the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong here) that ecstacy was the single most dangerous drug on the street. Is heroin really even harmful to the body unless you overdose? It's just like super morphine, right?

Cherub Angel
04-12-2005, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by redbreegull
I am very surprised that Billy did ecstacy. Especially after he witnessed drugs (less powerful ones at that) nearly tear his band apart.

depression/desperation will do that

Dead
04-12-2005, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix Down


you just found that out? after all those years?
Huh? I don't remember reading that his wife cheated on him. I read he cheated on her though.

keebs
04-12-2005, 10:21 PM
i knew it.

i used to take copious amounts of ecstasy and listen to adore...i thought they went together so well! now i know why!

the Madonna of Humility
04-12-2005, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Jerome
is 48 chords Blank Page?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9685952&blogID=21652981&Mytoken=20050412113917 I'm going to take a guess and say that it's blank page judging from his reply to the LJ post...
http://www.livejournal.com/~billycorgan/11418.html
If that's really him. The journal has a disclaimer, but it was definately posted before it was on the official site or any of the other stuff.

But Blank Page starts repeating after 26 chords... I even sat down at the piano and went through the whole thing. Eh. The song probably changed a lot since then.

ZWANPHONY
04-12-2005, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by the Madonna of Humility
I'm going to take a guess and say that it's blank page judging from his reply to the LJ post...
http://www.livejournal.com/~billycorgan/11418.html
If that's really him. The journal has a disclaimer, but it was definately posted before it was on the official site or any of the other stuff.

But Blank Page starts repeating after 26 chords... I even sat down at the piano and went through the whole thing. Eh. The song probably changed a lot since then.

billycorgan is for livejournal users to discuss and keep upto date with Billy Corgan's blog postings.

This journal is not affiliated with Billy Corgan, billycorgan.com or b0lly in any way.

and blank page starts repeating after 26...? how do you come up with this, please post which sequence you play which chords by.

Ugly
04-13-2005, 12:01 AM
for what its worth, My Mistake is playing on the myspace page.

Dead
04-13-2005, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Ugly
for what its worth, My Mistake is playing on the myspace page.
Duuuude it's been doing that allll daaaay.

the Madonna of Humility
04-13-2005, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY


billycorgan is for livejournal users to discuss and keep upto date with Billy Corgan's blog postings.

This journal is not affiliated with Billy Corgan, billycorgan.com or b0lly in any way.

and blank page starts repeating after 26...? how do you come up with this, please post which sequence you play which chords by.
I thought it was odd that the entry showed up on my LJ friend's list before it was on myspace/bc.com or other sites.

Okay, here's how I play Blank Page. I'm really sure this is spot on, it sounds right and I've been playing the piano for quite a while...

G d a C e d a C
G e d a C e a d a d
G d a C e d C e
a d C G a e d a
C e d a G a d C
G d a C e d a C
G e d a e e
C e a d a d G d
a C e d C e a d
C G a e d a C e
e C G a d a G d
a C e d a e
a C G e d a G G
C C f f C C f f
C C f f a a
G d a C e d a C
G e d a C e a d
a d G d a C e d
a a
C e a d

jesus, that took fuckin' forever.
but count 48 chords in and you can see that's certainly not the start of a clear repitition.

ZWANPHONY
04-13-2005, 12:45 AM
i'll investigate later when i have more time MoH, but as for right now, you don't play any Dorian (minor) triads in the song at all?

pu pu platter
04-13-2005, 12:50 AM
what a dumb fucking conversation.

NilSineDeo
04-13-2005, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by the Madonna of Humility

I thought it was odd that the entry showed up on my LJ friend's list before it was on myspace/bc.com or other sites.


really? it appeared on my friends page hours after it was on myspace

The New
04-13-2005, 09:06 AM
I'm not sure i've kept up with all this so can someone just confirm for me
There were the 2 pages of the 86 blog (on his site)and then this 97 one on the myspace,that's all that's out there?

Edit:

Isle
04-13-2005, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY




This journal is not affiliated with b0lly in any way.


:rofl:

burraldo
04-13-2005, 09:33 AM
yep ;)

fuk_tha_nub
04-13-2005, 09:36 AM
that is all - there were 2 or 3 blogs on that myspace account before b0lly + co. got control from the faker - one was about "how no one ever talks about set the ray to jerry " which gave it away as a dead on fake seeing how billy has said several times now how he know's how much the fans love that song _ anyhow all those fake blogs were deleted upon take over of the official myspace page on monday

Quiet
04-13-2005, 10:38 AM
I know it's playing "My Mistake", but why is it titled "youngdumbfullofrum"? This doesn't make any sense... if he were advertising the rarities package, why wouldn't he give the actual song titles?

Perhaps the songs he is playing are supposed to be like background music to the current blog that he has posted... although I'm not sure how "My Mistake" fits in with the 1997 blog. This is all too mysterious for me. I'm gonna go take a nap.

Cherub Angel
04-13-2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Quiet
I know it's playing "My Mistake", but why is it titled "youngdumbfullofrum"?



look at his location....the Virgin Islands.

NilSineDeo
04-13-2005, 10:48 AM
well I assume he named hmm "sorry" because he was bringing up the pumpkins again. then he switched the name to "nevermind i'm not sorry" (or whatever it was) to show people that he's not regretting bringing the pumpkins back into view, and that he wants them to play a part of everything going on now (his website, etc).

"youngdumbfullofrum" is probably just an alternate title for "my mistake," but not in an official sense. they just go together...

Quiet
04-13-2005, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo
"youngdumbfullofrum" is probably just an alternate title for "my mistake," but not in an official sense. they just go together...

Yeah, I thought about that too. Just kinda strange. At first, it made me believe it wasn't real.

tcm
04-13-2005, 11:05 AM
or maybe Billy just likes being random and silly, and you guys are overanalyzing the hell out of every dumb joke.

tcm
04-13-2005, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Quiet
although I'm not sure how "My Mistake" fits in with the 1997 blog.
it's about the first sessions for Adore, which was when My Mistake was recorded.

Quiet
04-13-2005, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by tcm

it's about the first sessions for Adore, which was when My Mistake was recorded.

So that "Heavy Metal Machine" remix was made in 1986?

Quiet
04-13-2005, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by tcm
or maybe Billy just likes being random and silly, and you guys are overanalyzing the hell out of every dumb joke.

This is quite possible... I'm just trying to make some sense out of it.

tcm
04-13-2005, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Quiet
So that "Heavy Metal Machine" remix was made in 1986?
nope.

tcm
04-13-2005, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Quiet
This is quite possible... I'm just trying to make some sense out of it.
i already did for you.

Quiet
04-13-2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by tcm

i already did for you.

Yeah, you're right. That Billy is just a thilly goothe.

douglas78
04-13-2005, 01:19 PM
maybe it's the machina mystery unravelling.. flame at will..

Cool As Ice Cream
04-13-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by douglas78
flame at will.. sure.

YOU FUCKING FUCKTARD! FUCKITY FUCK FUCK YOU MORAN GO DIE IN A FIRE MACHINA MYSTERY MY ASS NOW SHUT UP OR ILL MACHINA MYSTERY YOUR UGLY FACE HUH

wHATcOLOR
04-13-2005, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by douglas78
flame at will..


:flame:<img src=http://research.esd.ornl.gov/EMBYR/fire-crop.gif>

tcm
04-13-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Quiet
That Billy is just a thilly goothe.
indeed.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-13-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by douglas78
maybe it's the machina mystery unravelling.. flame at will.. Actually I'm thinking that if Billy ever comes to telling the story about Machina and its concept, he will say how it was just an album concept and how we took it all too far and beyond. (+ some extra bullshit on how that somehow is a success in se)

NilSineDeo
04-13-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by CoolAsIceCream
Actually I'm thinking that if Billy ever comes to telling the story about Machina and its concept, he will say how it was just an album concept and how we took it all too far and beyond. (+ some extra bullshit on how that somehow is a success in se)

sorry to get off topic, but i really doubt we took it "too far and beyond." the Machina story/mystery goes well beyond that one album

Quiet
04-13-2005, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo


sorry to get off topic, but i really doubt we took it "too far and beyond." the Machina story/mystery goes well beyond that one album

If you're trying to say the Machina mystery started with an album before Machina, then I'd say your crazy. I've heard people say stuff like that before ("But he says GLASS in Zero!"), and I think it's a load of crap.

Now if you're referring to the stories he wrote, I completely agree. If anything, HE took it too far. When nobody really got the mystery from the album, he should've shrugged and said "Yeah, it was a dumb idea. Oh well." Instead, it almost seemed like he got obsessed about it and kept adding to it hoping someone would get it, which I don't think anyone ever really has.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-13-2005, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Quiet

If you're trying to say the Machina mystery started with an album before Machina, then I'd say your crazy. I've heard people say stuff like that before ("But he says GLASS in Zero!"), and I think it's a load of crap.

Now if you're referring to the stories he wrote, I completely agree. If anything, HE took it too far. When nobody really got the mystery from the album, he should've shrugged and said "Yeah, it was a dumb idea. Oh well." Instead, it almost seemed like he got obsessed about it and kept adding to it hoping someone would get it, which I don't think anyone ever really has. I must agree.

Spaldz
04-13-2005, 02:22 PM
There's new information on the myspace page: I pasted it below to save effort

Billy Corgan has made many albums by different names--with his legendary band Smashing Pumpkins and more recently with the short-lived but acclaimed Zwan. As a writer, producer, player and singer, he’s contributed to recordings by the likes of Cheap Trick, Ric Ocasek, New Order and Hole, among others. Yet until now with the hauntingly beautiful TheFutureEmbrace, Corgan has never released an album under his own name.

“I always thought the solo thing was so egoistic, and believe it or not, I didn’t want that,” Corgan says with a grin. “I didn’t feel it needed to all be about me. Overall, I always thought bands were better than solo artists--David Bowie being one of those rare exceptions. But shit happens. I was on top of the world with the Pumpkins when my band blew up. I went from being in one of the best bands in the world into some fuckin’ nightmare. All you can do is keep going, and keep on making records you believe in.”

With TheFutureEmbrace, Corgan has made an album worth believing in-- one that is very much his own. “This is probably the first record where I wasn’t being somewhat reactive to what was going on around me,” he says. “The early work of the Pumpkins was influenced by the fact that we would go play in Chicago and people would just talk. We found the louder we played, the more people would listen. . .or leave. Then you move into the indie ranks and you start hearing you’re not cool enough or loud enough. You could even say Zwan was a reaction against the Pumpkins.” For Corgan, however, “This is the first time I said, `Okay, I don’t care what the trends are. I don’t care what the modern marketplace says. I’m just going to make the record I want to make.’ That’s it. Every time I came to a fork in the road, I just kept repeating, `I’m gonna do my thing.’”

Describing his mission for TheFutureEmbrace, Corgan says: “I just wanted this to be beautiful--though I suppose it’s my own definition of beauty. I didn’t want to be shocking or loud or provocative just for the sake of it. I wanted it all to emanate from a place of beauty.”

Towards that end, Corgan began working in his beloved hometown Chicago with Bjorn Thorsrud, a musical associate since the Smashing Pumpkins’ 1998 Adore album and Bon Harris of Nitzer Ebb fame who Corgan describes as “like the Jimi Hendrix of synth land.” Later in the process, Corgan brought in Brian Liesegang, formerly of Filter, and Matt Walker, of both Filter and briefly the Smashing Pumpkins as “great tastemakers and knob-turners.” Jimmy Chamberlin--Corgan’s bandmate in the Pumpkins and Zwan--plays drums on “DIA.” Last but not least, Robert Smith of the Cure sings backing vocals on a gorgeously heartbreaking if unlikely version of the Bee Gees’ “To Love Somebody.”

“We worked a long time on making this feel like a real album,” says Corgan of making TheFutureEmbrace, which was mixed by Alan Moulder. “I always felt that my albums are too scattershot. I’d get bored and my albums would become weird amalgams of the assorted swings in my mood. I kept telling the guys in the studio that I don’t want this album to sound like Billy’s Junkshop – like Billy went in his attic, and said, `Oh I found a harmonium. Oh, I found a Moog.’”

A compelling and often dreamily melodic construction of synth sounds and Corgan’s own famed guitar, the impressive Wall of Sound on TheFutureEmbrace feels powerfully modern while at the same time offering a heartfelt sonic salute to some of Corgan’s own musical heroes, including Bowie and Joy Division. As Corgan explains, “In painting they pay tribute to previous artists, like they’ll say `After Matisse.’ The way I look at it, there’s homage here. I could spend more energy covering it up, but I don’t think it’s necessary. In terms of things close to my heart, Low by Bowie is the touchstone, but that vein goes on to Joy Division and Echo and the Bunnymen and beyond--music with that beautiful coldness. Somehow what we’re going through right now seems to realign with the feeling in that music. To me you almost have to bow to the masters who figured things out. Then you figure it out your own way and ultimately it all becomes part of your fabric.”

While some of Corgan’s sonic heroes explored bleakness, TheFutureEmbrace itself is more affirmative and even romantic. “I’m not interested at all in celebrating any shadowy stuff,” Corgan explains. “I’m not in that place.” Instead, Corgan–whose first poetry collection Blinking With Fists was published by Faber And Faber last year -- has written his most intimate set of songs yet. “In some way the grandeur of the Pumpkins was a way to dodge my weaknesses, like if things were loud enough or strident enough, no one would notice the flaws,” Corgan says. “I don’t have to do that any more—so that let’s me shine through more authentically. To me what is poignant about my past work is that I was really struggling to find myself and wearing a sort of mask to be functional. But at some point you have to put down the mask.”

Having put down the mask, Corgan sounds philosophical about how TheFutureEmbrace will be embraced: “I brace myself for the worst and assume it will all get worked out in the end. I’ve always been aware of the quality end of what I do, and things have worked out pretty much as I thought it would. For me, it’s successful in the sense that it’s very focused. I think it’s a beautiful record that packs an emotional punch, but time will tell if the songs hold up. I only know if I don’t go into unfamiliar territory, I’m not going to get anywhere.”

Written by David Wild

douglas78
04-13-2005, 03:09 PM
thanks for the flame. oh, and i dont buy in to the whole mystery either.

Rockin' Cherub
04-13-2005, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Jerome
is 48 chords Blank Page?

i'm PRETTY sure it is for martha.

my mind secedes
04-13-2005, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Rockin' Cherub

i'm PRETTY sure it is for martha.

dude, no way, it's got to be ava adore. you don't EVEN know.

zerozwan
04-13-2005, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Quiet


If you're trying to say the Machina mystery started with an album before Machina, then I'd say your crazy. I've heard people say stuff like that before ("But he says GLASS in Zero!"), and I think it's a load of crap.
there was an interview at much music in 1996 where the question of zero as a character was brought up and billy said it was all part of something bigger and that there was more to come. so i guess YOU'RE crazy! biiiitch.

Quiet
04-13-2005, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by zerozwan

there was an interview at much music in 1996 where the question of zero as a character was brought up and billy said it was all part of something bigger and that there was more to come. so i guess YOU'RE crazy! biiiitch.

Maybe he was thinking about doing something else with the Zero character, but i don't think it had anything at all to do with the Machina mystery.

Dead
04-13-2005, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Quiet

That Billy is just a thilly goothe.
I'm super, thanks for asking!

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Big_Gay_Al_figure.jpg

Dead
04-13-2005, 05:26 PM
Yo they changed the song to Pug but it says slug, I think he's just trying to get around copyright issues.

Luke de Spa
04-13-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY
i'll investigate later when i have more time MoH, but as for right now, you don't play any Dorian (minor) triads in the song at all? Dorian triads? What are you talking about? Dorian is a modal scale FFS.

NilSineDeo
04-13-2005, 07:35 PM
there's a new entry on his myspace, again from the recording sessions of Adore.

Dead
04-13-2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo
there's a new entry on his myspace, again from the recording sessions of Adore.
Thanks.

Axis of Action
04-13-2005, 07:52 PM
actually this could create a really fun dynamic, sort of going back and forth, much like a Quentin Tarantino movie, with different timelines... so we get intersperals of the hard times and good times... although so far it's all been hard...

wHATcOLOR
04-13-2005, 07:53 PM
WOAH!!! i'm only like three or four paragraphs in and this is telling so much!!!

Dead
04-13-2005, 07:59 PM
Whoa he's being a jerk to James again. But really interesting, and the stuff about Shame is really amazing. :eek:

wHATcOLOR
04-13-2005, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Dead
Whoa he's being a jerk to James again. But really interesting, and the stuff about Shame is really amazing. :eek:


its not like he's picking on him for no reason, he is expressing disppointment that james didn't seem to be into the band, or intereseted in contributing.. seems like he's tired of 'covering' for people and now wants to tell the full story as he sees it

Dead
04-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah I guess, but it annoys me cause I like James and D'arcy.

Nova
04-13-2005, 09:03 PM
It just seems like after Mellon Collie, James and Billy continued to not agree. You can't get mad at Billy for simply admitting what happened.

Mariner
04-13-2005, 09:15 PM
billy's being honest, not cruel, with these adore entries. he's pointing out as many (if not more) mistakes he's made as he's pointing out times where d'arcy and james' actions were perhaps lacking.

and man can he write. the shame story. now i understand why that seemed like one of the few places on adore that really, really sounded like the pumpkins. heh, it's because it was.

Mariner
04-13-2005, 09:16 PM
oh, and: "alternative/grindcore/new wave"

:rofl:

Dead
04-13-2005, 09:22 PM
So does that mean the whole song Shame was played and sung live? Usually they do vocals and instruments separately. Neat. They must have added some type of effects later on. Maybe.

Sulu
04-13-2005, 11:02 PM
When was Soot & Stars recorded? Maybe thats the song...

Sulu
04-13-2005, 11:05 PM
Nevermind, that was stupid.

Axis of Action
04-14-2005, 12:09 AM
Billy Bulletin (on myspace):

Date: Apr 13, 2005 11:18 PM
Subject: dear friends
Body: i wanted to express a heartfelt thanks to everyone who has signed up to my page...the response has been overwhelming, and i appreciate all the positive energy towards my writings and past work...it is a great feeling, and i appreciate the intimacy that being here, with you, allows...it is hard to communicate one-on-one with everyone personally, but please know that your thoughts, prayers, support, and general 'good will' goes a long way towards making me realize that my life, and the effort i have put forth as an artist, is appreciated in so many different forms by so many different people...
all the best, william

azvd
04-14-2005, 09:12 AM
It's incredible to think that back in 1998 I'd never imagine Adore was created under those circumnstances. It seemed at the time that the band was consciously reacting to commercial success with a dark, "acoustic/electronic" album. You listen to Adore and you can never tell that the band was almost falling apart and Billy was under these personal issues. Beautiful music can indeed be created from hard times.