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wpc33
04-11-2005, 05:06 PM
www.billycorgan.com

"The Confessions Of Billy Corgan" are real! This is the best.

I really hope that the pics are similar to the LP cover

*happy*

wHATcOLOR
04-11-2005, 05:12 PM
WOAH

wHATcOLOR
04-11-2005, 05:13 PM
is that the site with the heavy metal machine demo playing?(if so, :erm) i have no audio..

Quiet
04-11-2005, 05:21 PM
I really like that picture on MySpace where he's wearing a hat with the outfit. That'd make a great album cover. The scarf looks a whole lot cooler for some reason when he's wearing the hat. I'm guessing this was taken during the "Walking Shade" video shoot since the outfit seems to fit the time period specified. Is it just me, or do these pictures remind you a lot of "Tonight Tonight", only with old-time Chicago instead of outer space? They seem to have the same dreamy quality as that video. Or maybe I'm just crazy.

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 05:21 PM
no it's the main one

though it has a link to the myspace w/ the HMM demo

oh god

wHATcOLOR
04-11-2005, 05:22 PM
also, that means that old yearbook pic or whatever that was first on the myspace account was also official :erm

tomthum81
04-11-2005, 05:24 PM
the new confession is really good... hes a great storyteller

... but i still dont like that remix of HMM...

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 05:26 PM
I kinda like the new HMM

although I wish I could download it

p.s: it does hint at SP stuff we haven't heard

which rules

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 05:35 PM
I never read this stuff before because I assumed it wasn't real

but now I can read it and know it's authentic

and it's pretty hardcore

sledge
04-11-2005, 05:41 PM
each time I try to touch her ‘down there’, she moves away from me and tenses up...this goes on for about 10 minutes until I finally ask if there is a problem...she says "there is something I have to tell you", and proceeds to tell me that she is a he...I jump up and flip on the light...she/he says "look, it’s not a big deal, I won’t tell anyone, please stay, I’ll do anything you want me to do"...I beg off politely, saying it’s not really my trip, and I’m *boom* out the door, on the street laughing to myself (how could I not know! Oops...)

Oh Billy!

wHATcOLOR
04-11-2005, 05:48 PM
wow that stuff is pretty engrossing.

spacey raygun
04-11-2005, 05:50 PM
lol @ tranny corgan

Woody
04-11-2005, 05:51 PM
By the Christ!

:eek: :erm

Dead
04-11-2005, 06:13 PM
Ah son of a bitch, I knew that was too good to be written by some ripoff punk. That's so awesome.

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 06:19 PM
those story's are great. I can't wait to see what else he'll talk about.

and that picture on the main page of bc.com.... fucking awesome

Mayfuck
04-11-2005, 06:21 PM
This is really good.

Fathoms (unadored)
04-11-2005, 06:22 PM
Usher doesn't hold a candle to Billy.

Billy is literally turning into an open book!

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Fathoms (unadored)
Usher doesn't hold a candle to Billy.

Billy is literally turning into an open book!

I know

this is nuts

I hope he keeps this level of openness and detail, this is really awesome... like, the "1986" segment is okay, but the second is amazing, and so long

I'm compiling the sections into a .doc and he's already written close to 6,000 words

dude, Billy... rock on.

maybe this is what took so long.

Cherub Angel
04-11-2005, 06:35 PM
holy shit. Not as much that he updated, but man....I could never envision, fathom or otherwise being that low.

Dead
04-11-2005, 06:40 PM
Holy crap I read part 2, its so awesome and interesting. He's sane. Why isn't he saving this for a book?

Dead
04-11-2005, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo

and that picture on the main page of bc.com.... fucking awesome
It looks kinda dumb.

Dead
04-11-2005, 06:45 PM
That pic on his myspace site looks like the same wacky scarf from the video shoot, maybe thats even album art.

Isle
04-11-2005, 06:45 PM
ladies and gentlemen...

...b0lly's back.

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 06:46 PM
i still think the hmm alt alt is crap. and his "ok i'm not sorry.." deal is retarded.

but yeah, the story is a good read.

i can't tell if the picture on myspace is photoshopped or not...i wish there was a way that photoshop and every other big graphics editing program would put a type of info tag on each picture that was edited (except contrast and the dimensions aspect)...

MrPantyFAce
04-11-2005, 06:46 PM
guitar solo!

Isle
04-11-2005, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Dead
That pic on his myspace site looks like the same wacky scarf from the video shoot, maybe thats even album art.

i'll bet you five dollars it's the album cover minus the text.

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Isle
ladies and gentlemen...

...b0lly's back.

word.

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Dead

It looks kinda dumb.

i dunno.... i like it. although i also like that version of hmm, so...

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 06:52 PM
255$ a month, which means my share is approx. 86$

why does billy pay a dollar more!?

Dead
04-11-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Isle


i'll bet you five dollars it's the album cover minus the text.
That'd be scary.

Hey guys, so this means that HMM that was up there was put up by BC? Weird.

The audio on there doesn't work for me any more tho.

Dead
04-11-2005, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY
255$ a month, which means my share is approx. 86$

why does billy pay a dollar more!?
Cause they were pissed that he was perceived as the lead singer of the band. Oh yeah, also cause he slept in there.

Isle
04-11-2005, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY
255$ a month, which means my share is approx. 86$

why does billy pay a dollar more!?

goth protection racket

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 06:58 PM
cause their busy

come on billy, good grammar, good grammar!

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 07:00 PM
hey guys look he forgot to capitalize some sentences too

man who cares about his grammar

ladollyvita
04-11-2005, 07:01 PM
this is good shit!! Can't wait for those novels now.

Dead
04-11-2005, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY
cause their busy

come on billy, good grammar, good grammar!
That's spelling, not grammar you dillhole.

Disclaimer: If that somehow counts as grammar I will not be held responsible.

MrPantyFAce
04-11-2005, 07:02 PM
punctuation, grammar and sentance structure are what was holding him back the last few years

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action
hey guys look he forgot to capitalize some sentences too

man who cares about his grammar

you're missing some punctuation in there...

lmao

yeah, no one should be complaining about his grammar. it's only the internet

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo


you're missing some punctuation in there...

lmao

yeah, no one should be complaining about his grammar. it's only the internet

exactly

if he published this, well then, that'd be different

but as it is, this is just him prattling to his fans

and personally, it fucking rules

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action
and personally, it fucking rules

hell yeah it does

Dead
04-11-2005, 07:05 PM
That's a lot better than prattling.

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Dead
That's a lot better than prattling.

yeah

I think most of this is pre-written, it's too long for him to have come up with in a day or two between the 1986 post and the new one

I'd wager it's all written out, at least, a good chunk is

Corganist
04-11-2005, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


yeah

I think most of this is pre-written, it's too long for him to have come up with in a day or two between the 1986 post and the new one

I'd wager it's all written out, at least, a good chunk is
Yeah, he's had to be doing something for the last four months. I'm glad to see our patience is being rewarded.

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


yeah

I think most of this is pre-written, it's too long for him to have come up with in a day or two between the 1986 post and the new one

I'd wager it's all written out, at least, a good chunk is

i dunno... it's not like he's making this up (or is he?), this all really happened. ha already has all the thoughts. it shouldn't take too long to record them

Dead
04-11-2005, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Corganist

Yeah, he's had to be doing something for the last four months.
He was working with some various bands and finishing his album. And the like. Also telling them where to find the masters for Purr Snickety and Bullet Train.

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Dead

That's spelling, not grammar you dillhole.

Disclaimer: If that somehow counts as grammar I will not be held responsible.

it's grammar, cause he spelled "their" right, but he used the word "their" in its wrong sense.

i have this thing for correcting bad grammar and spelling, sorry. it was not meant to be made into such a big deal.

oh and it should be tourist-related deals instead of tourist related deals. thru should be through, but that's billy's way, so it's okay...

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Corganist

Yeah, he's had to be doing something for the last four months. I'm glad to see our patience is being rewarded.

most definitely. there are a lot of great signs for us now. his increased contact with fans via these new stories of his musical history, the HMM demo (no matter what you think of it, a version of HMM that we haven't heard is tight), and the huge amount of iTunes action... album mid-June... mmm this kind of energy rules


Originally posted by NilSineDeo


i dunno... it's not like he's making this up (or is he?), this all really happened. ha already has all the thoughts. it shouldn't take too long to record them

we'll see if he keeps this up... you can't do 2000-4000 words every day or two

Dead
04-11-2005, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY


it's grammar, cause he spelled "their" right, but he used the word "their" in its wrong sense.

i have this thing for correcting bad grammar and spelling, sorry. it was not meant to be made into such a big deal.
Hmm yeah I see what you're saying. I take back the dillhole comment. In my stupid school group projects I have to do all the work cause everyone else has shit english skills and I'm a master of grammar and spelling. It is my curse. :(

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY


it's grammar, cause he spelled "their" right, but he used the word "their" in its wrong sense.

i have this thing for correcting bad grammar and spelling, sorry. it was not meant to be made into such a big deal.

oh and it should be tourist-related deals instead of tourist related deals. thru should be through, but that's billy's way, so it's okay...

I hope these are the only two corrections you have for his posts

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


I hope these are the only two corrections you have for his posts

why, would you leave me alone then?

Axis of Action
04-11-2005, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY


why, would you leave me alone then?

no, because there's quite a lot of corrections to make and you may as well get over the fact that these posts are not going to be perfect

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 07:19 PM
i don't like how he went straight into recording on the 4-track he bought using his pizza delivery money without explaining any other assets of having the job...

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Axis of Action


no, because there's quite a lot of corrections to make and you may as well get over the fact that these posts are not going to be perfect

true.

vanilla
04-11-2005, 07:26 PM
this is so interesting! i love it.

Dead
04-11-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by vanilla
this is so interesting! i love it.
I love you. I mean it. :erm

vanilla
04-11-2005, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Dead

I love you. I mean it. :erm
:D

Dead
04-11-2005, 07:32 PM
<img width="90" height="90" src="http://forums.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon14.gif">

obscured01
04-11-2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by vanilla
this is so interesting! i love it.

TimRoss
04-11-2005, 07:43 PM
I think that the best thing about this is that is "just appeared." There is no grand proclomation that this autobiography will come out every day and detail his entire musical life.

It's just here, and it is what it is.

The quality of this makes me genuinely excited for this man and his ability for the first time since I heard Adore.

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 07:46 PM
I was crushed, shocked that no one wanted to fight for it more (a scene that would be repeated, almost to a tee, in the distant future with Zwan

wow, not even jimmy wanted to fight for zwan?

obviously, nobody wanted to fight for zwan because zwan was about rainbow-colored scenes of serenity and peace...

Dead
04-11-2005, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Isle


i'll bet you five dollars it's the album cover minus the text.
Yo on the confessions page you can see more of the pic, and it says at the top "Fabric LINING".

KManXC
04-11-2005, 08:18 PM
I bet he is writing these as he goes- he might have been thinking about doing something like this for a while, but it is easy to write for days when properly motivated and memories are so vivid.

LittleWing
04-11-2005, 08:19 PM
I'm excited

Dead
04-11-2005, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by KManXC
Attachment: me.jpg
FU2, buddy!

CarlitoBrigante
04-11-2005, 08:23 PM
Carlito feels that it is a very nice website, and I am very happy that it is finally back up! Good job Billy.

ZWANPHONY
04-11-2005, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by CarlitoBrigante
Carlito feels that it is a very nice website, and I am very happy that it is finally back up! Good job Billy.

yeah, but no flash? what gives man!?

we need the animation!

douglas78
04-11-2005, 08:48 PM
why cant you selfish dweebs be happy with the table scraps he's already thrown us...... you greedy bums..:D

Dead
04-11-2005, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by douglas78
why cant you selfish dweebs be happy with the table scraps he's already thrown us...... you greedy bums..:D
Cause they're selfish dweebs and greedy bums!

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 08:56 PM
the main page says it's under construction. the flash may be on its way

Luke de Spa
04-11-2005, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by ZWANPHONY
yeah, but no flash? what gives man!?

we need the animation!
People actually like Flash-based web sites? What the hell is going on here?

wayners
04-11-2005, 09:12 PM
wow, now I'm very excited! :banoonoo:

Phoenix Down
04-11-2005, 09:17 PM
Yay, another long wait is over!! He is back again!

This stuff is so awesome, i'm so excited. he even used dark colours instead of gay rainbows.

Does he read netphoria or why is there a Verification text on myspace suddenly?

Dead
04-11-2005, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix Down

Does he read netphoria or why is there a Verification text on myspace suddenly?
I think Billy Corgan would find your avatar immoral, and you should change it immediately.

Phoenix Down
04-11-2005, 10:07 PM
and why is he not sorry anymore?

SpFission
04-11-2005, 10:10 PM
relax with the religion/morality jokes

Dead
04-11-2005, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by SpFission
relax with the religion/morality jokes
Relax yourself. And what does religion have to do with morality?

wpc33
04-11-2005, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Dead

Relax yourself. And what does religion have to do with morality?

I can't believe how often you post. Please take a vacation, and please don't post again unless you change your avatar. I've seen it 1000 times and it was always annoying. A weird looking girl staring!! *Blargh*

Edit: I was worried about ruining my own thread, but you border on flooding, so who cares:p

Dead
04-11-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by wpc33


I can't believe how often you post. Please take a vacation, and please don't post again unless you change your avatar. I've seen it 1000 times and it was always annoying. A weird looking girl staring!! *Blargh*

Edit: I was worried about ruining my own thread, but you border on flooding, so who cares:p
Heh!. Shut up. :D

keebs
04-11-2005, 10:33 PM
it seems as if he is starting from the beginning, and he if continues with this openness, I think we could be in for some really interesting information about the pumpkins.

NilSineDeo
04-11-2005, 10:37 PM
*caughpartIVthetruestoryofthemachinescough*

Dead
04-11-2005, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by keebs
it seems as if he is starting from the beginning, and he if continues with this openness, I think we could be in for some really interesting information about the pumpkins.
Looks that way.

Ugly
04-11-2005, 11:13 PM
I think, if we're lucky, this whole "true story of Billy Corgan" thing will make it to about the first show at the Metro, then he'll get bored with it and stop posting.

Shitty deal, too. I'd love to hear his take on JC getting fired & Zwan's breakup.

Dr Riot
04-12-2005, 12:26 AM
OMG!! This is definitely promising!! I can't wait! :D

fuk_tha_nub
04-12-2005, 01:16 AM
all the dark little cracks and pet skeletons shall be revealed

Reyngel
04-12-2005, 01:18 AM
I'm really digging the new image for Billy. It's very reminiscent of Adore, but with an added coolness.

pumpkingrrrl
04-12-2005, 01:25 AM
WOW

great fucking stories

and a great new image

ZackZ
04-12-2005, 01:42 AM
The stories are ok. Lots of holes. Why the hell would anyone befriend a smelly, dirty, pathetic loner that lives in a shed? It's inexplicable.

He could be making it all up, or greatly embellishing. He probably wrote all this back in '86 on the backs of Taco Bell napkins in the hopes that one day he'd be famous and people would actually care.

tomthum81
04-12-2005, 01:43 AM
He could be making it all up, or greatly embellishing. He probably wrote all this back in '86 on the backs of Taco Bell napkins in the hopes that one day he'd be famous and people would actually care.
thought the same thing... and he was right.

wpc33
04-12-2005, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by ZackZ

Don't be a jagoff

Spaldz
04-12-2005, 04:28 AM
This is actually amazing. I'm falling back in love with Billy

douglas78
04-12-2005, 08:18 AM
hey, i stole my avatar from one of the fake billy pages. it was the same as mine originally, except mine didnt move around. ah-ha im a thief

pinballzero
04-12-2005, 08:36 AM
You can tell at the end of the blog that hes going to segway into the birth of the pumpklins next. should be good...

jczeroman
04-12-2005, 09:52 AM
I'm reverting to a giddy little schoolgirl as we speak!

Quiet
04-12-2005, 10:00 AM
"I wish I could mix all of these things together, but I don’t know how...I tune into religious stations, and tape the preachers going off about the devil, and hell, and eternal salvation...I stop recording in odd places, so when you play the tape back it sounds all cut-up...music at this point becomes an abstract...I don’t really so much care how to write songs so much as I want to make sound that makes me feel...it all goes in my head like a blender, all this noise and sound and isolation mixes up into a feeling that is elusive, but I can taste it in my mouth"

I'm not sure if any of you know of them, but reading this reminded me a lot of what The Books do. They basically sample strange things (books on tape, etc.) and mix it in with randomly recorded music they've done. When you listen to their music, it's like pieces of different things taped together, very "abstract" and "cut-up". This has nothing to do with anything... I just found it interesting.

MrPantyFAce
04-12-2005, 10:28 AM
billy was a telemarketer

Spaldz
04-12-2005, 10:38 AM
He also tried to finger a little bitch

Rockin' Cherub
04-12-2005, 10:45 AM
pretty awesome! i like this guy!

Sonic Johnny
04-12-2005, 10:48 AM
man.... those confessions are heavy.

did anyone else know that Billy's dad was junkie/cokehead/whatever?

Ghetto_Squirrel
04-12-2005, 10:56 AM
I clicked on the Myspace link, and some trance shit started playing. I thought it was b0lly's new single and started laughing.

Mariner
04-12-2005, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by jczeroman
I'm reverting to a giddy little schoolgirl as we speak!


pix pls




on second thought, scratch that :erm

Cool As Ice Cream
04-12-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Sonic Johnny
did anyone else know that Billy's dad was junkie/cokehead/whatever? He mentioned that his dad was a stoner before.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-12-2005, 11:53 AM
When there is nothing else to do, I write songs...Dale, the bass player and original lead singer of the Marked, owns a drum machine...+ I have a little 4-track cassette that I have bought with my pizza delivery money, so I make tapes by myself... I suppose this is where the song Hope comes from?

TiaraGurl
04-12-2005, 12:01 PM
This is addictive. As someone said it seems if he continues much more will be revealed.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Ugly
I think, if we're lucky, this whole "true story of Billy Corgan" thing will make it to about the first show at the Metro, then he'll get bored with it and stop posting.:(

That is likely to happen.

I hope he'll continue though.

DamingR
04-12-2005, 12:44 PM
New entry up details the time during the Adore sessions.

Seems like maybe rather than do a true chronolgy he's going to "fill in the gaps" between the well known periods.

Makes a lot of sense.


Also, is anyone else a little weirded out remembering this particular period and us following info on AMS-P? This was the first time I ever dealt with Billy kind of disappering for a while, and it's really odd to hear his side of the story.

MrPantyFAce
04-12-2005, 12:52 PM
care to post the new entry? i cant seem to see it

severin
04-12-2005, 12:52 PM
mhm...if he puts this out in book-form as his meoirs i'm going to buy it...i really liked reading this stuff

and i'm a litle more hopeful for the album now

severin
04-12-2005, 12:56 PM
this hmm version sucks big balls though

ZWANPHONY
04-12-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by severin
this hmm version sucks big balls though

true.

i think i could do better a better remix. :D

Cool As Ice Cream
04-12-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by MrPantyFAce
care to post the new entry? i cant seem to see it It's not on the www.billycorgan.com website yet. But you can already read it on www.myspace.com/billycorgan

Starcrossed, and subsequently, a door is opened (1997)

After the mind numbing blast that was the Mellon Collie tour (playing to
well over a million people, death, destruction, controversy, infinite
sorrows, tears, the ultimate success, the most simple failures), I am
completely, utterly drained…all the things I had been putting off facing
emotionally (as I “allowed” myself to get lost in the glare of success after
unprecedented success) came around not so quietly and demanded I deal with
them RIGHT NOW!!!!: so, of course, I ignore it…from Jimmy’s firing (and the
loss of my best friend and musical soul mate in the band), to my separation
from my wife, the untimely death of my mother, and musical burnout (writing
and recording over 50+ songs in such a short time, not to mention all the
shows around the world), I had built a highway over these traumas and
planned to just keep on moving (it had been a effective strategy for the
past 10 years, so why not now?)…I had stopped seeing the therapist that I
had worked with since ’94 (somewhere in the midst of the tour), and instead
of reaching out to anyone, I just go further and further inward…my “life” is
now one series of “events” after another…basketball finals, art openings,
vacations, parties, and more parties, and of course, the “famous” people
dinner (you + 3 other famous people and all their peoples)…I am photographed
anywhere I go, supporting my self-delusion that if I am important, I must
know what I am doing (very sad logic indeed!)…

To escape, I start taking ecstasy in copious quantities, and because I have
an allergy to alcohol, take lots and lots of pills, pills, and more pills
(downers are like speed to my system, they calm me down and wake me up)…the
very idea of standing in the practice space and playing rock riffs makes me
sad and sick to my stomach…I don’t so much want to make music for what I am
dealing with inside as much as what I am dealing with inside only leaves me
wanting to make mournful music, or better yet, no music at all…old, dear
friends plead with me to take some time off…but I do not know what to do
with myself…music is my way of coping with my feelings, but making music
forces me to deal with situations, people, and places I am not always
prepared to face…I hole up in my Victorian house in Chicago, and get to
work…it eases my mind to stay busy…I mostly just sit around, play acoustic
guitar, watch t.v., and write what I call “little” songs…simple songs that
don’t need the power of the band behind them…I have a spare bedroom upstairs
in the back that I use to make demos…the songs have sort of a lazy charm, I
like them, and they gently touch at what I am trying to say (which is to try
to find some hope in all this buried pain)…I’m supposed to be happy, I am on
top of the world (materially speaking), and yet I feel like a deposed king,
as if I am no longer running my kingdom, but instead it is running me…I
really have become a ‘rat in the cage’…fans sit outside my house and wait
for me at all hours of the day…sometimes people sneak up on me from behind
bushes…I have 3 stalkers, one who rights letters about how he dreams at
night of me raping him (we have to call the police)…people fuck on my lawn
(and brag about it to other fans), steal my garbage and post the contents on
the internet, or, ha-ha-ha, smash pumpkins on my porch…I have the constant
feeling people are watching me in my house… I try at all times to avoid the
windows, or I pull my shades down on sunny days…it feels like a state of
siege, and I try to just stay numb as best I know how…work is the one place
I feel safe…

James, D’arcy, and I go in to Chicago Recording Company with Matt Walker on
drums, and over about 3-4 days quickly lay down some of my new tunes…(the
Adore album version of “Annie-dog” is recorded live in these sessions, as is
the first run thru of “for Martha” without the lyrics)…James and D’arcy and
Matt play really great (we record live), and seem to like and appreciate the
new songs…the lack of any outside pressures, the laid back atmosphere, seem
to suit everyone’s mood and we are optimistic that this is going to be a
quicker, less painful album to make (my original estimate was it would take
all of 6 weeks to record Adore-Mellon Collie had taken 8 months)…buoyed by
the latest work, I make plans to start the album “for real”…I want
everything to be recorded live, or if not totally live, be done really
quickly…I am inspired by Bob Dylan’s approach from the 1960’s where you just
when in and did your songs really fast (1 or 2 takes)…I tell myself this is
what has been missing from the band, this sense of freedom and spontanaiety…

My girlfriend and I decide to take a vacation to the Bahamas…as we sit in
the shade at the beach, all I can talk about is the kind of album I want to
make, and how I feel unsure if it is such a good idea…the demo sessions
(even though I was happy with them) hinted at a softer, more acoustic
approach, which in and of itself is not that radical of an idea…my mind,
working overtime, wonders if the new music is not progressive enough (one of
the main charters for the band, to push ahead ceaselessly)…always having had
an interest in electronic music, I can hear in my head a new melding of the
two feelings (acoustic and electronic)…this excites me as a new direction,
but at the same time, something in my gut tells me it isn’t such a good
idea…I can’t make up my mind, so I keep talking about what I should do…my
girlfriend grows tired of hearing me drone on about it, until finally she
snaps, yelling at me that if it is what I want to do it that I should just
do it or stop talking about it…without pausing for a second, I say “alright,
I will do it”, and the matter is made up in my mind for good… in my messed
thinking, I figure I will make this grand anti-statement against the grand
statement I just finished making on the last record…this is totally
dysfunctional logic, and without realizing it, I am preparing for yet
another suicide…except this one will be career suicide…it will prove to be
my way to shatter everything around me…(and in that way, it will prove to be
a total success)…

I take a planned trip to Istanbul, Turkey…without doing any research, I have
decided to come here just on a gut feeling that this is somewhere I should
visit…I am not sure why I must come, I just trust that I must…my girlfriend
comes with me, and we check into a 5 star hotel, which unknown to me before
I arrive, is located in a former prison where they used to torture people
(famously portrayed in the 70’s movie ‘Midnight Express’)…bad omen ..1 of
47…the city, formerly known as Constantinople, was once the crossroads of
the world, and the capital of the Holy Roman Empire…the architecture is
incredible, and the history breathtaking…there is only one problem…the
people are generally horrible to us (this is pre 9/11)…everywhere we go we
are met with racist anti-American sentiments…of course, some people are warm
and friendly, and we even make friends with a restauranteur who shows us
around (he recognized me, a bet my girlfriend lost when she bet no one would
recognize me in Turkey the whole time…a bet she lost 4 hours after our
arrival in the country)…but overall, the feeling is one of menace, that
constant feeling that you are not welcome…food is shoved at us, men grab
their dicks and make leering comments to my partner, and she is even
physically attacked on the street by someone for no reason…it is a nightmare
vacation…I withdraw, and don’t want to even leave the hotel room…for the
life of me, I cannot figure out why have brought us here…

Each morning at 4:45 is the first call to prayer…the hotel is located just
next to the Haga Sophia, which is one of the most famous mosques in the
world…so it figures that the man doing the sing-song call to prayer in the
morning would be one of the best in the land…it is so hard to describe, but
this man singing is like Jimi Hendrix (playing the national anthem) with his
voice…when he starts up, so do another 100 mosques as well…the whole city
lights up with sound, and in my half-awake state, feel this man singing (to
me right) thru my soul…he is distorting his voice with the colour of 2,000
years…and then it hits me, the sound I am seeking for the record…the ancient
sound of life and love mixed with a overloaded distortion that is
earthen…the sound of this man singing becomes my template for the sound of
Adore…now I know why we are here…

We are having such a rotten time that we decide to cut our trip short…our
flight out is in the afternoon, so we get up early, take all the dishes and
other goodies we had bought at the ancient market to the front desk (to be
shipped back home), and hit the town one last time…we have put off Haga
Sophia until the end, because being the most famous destination, figure it
will also be the most crowded…as we are walking into the mosque complex, I
am verbally attacked by a street vendor for refusing to acknowledge his
sales pitch (in various languages no less)…”yankee go home, fuck you, fuck
America…American piece-a-shit”…after 10 days of this nonsense, I snap, and
am ready to punch this guys lights out…suddenly, it is me and 4 of his
friends…things get really out of hand, and as we go inside I can’t even
enjoy the immense beauty of the place…I am standing at the crossroads of
history and all I can think about is how I am gonna get my ass kicked the
moment I step out of the door…so much beauty, and so much ugliness…all the
warning signs of what is to come are here for me to see…my future, my past,
our future, our past, all mixed with my “rockstar” disconnection from
reality…sadly, I ignore, or don’t see, all these signs…(when we get back to
Chicago, all the dishes arrive shattered into a million pieces)

Supposedly now rested, I foolishly decide we are going to move to a new
studio each and every week (6 weeks, 6 studios) to keep things fresh…this
means packing up everything and moving guitars, wires, amps, all sorts of
shit each time…this in theory sounds good for creativity (the keep it moving
theory), but will bring to bear all sorts of technical issues (which prove
to really bog the sessions down)…I hire Brad Wood, for co-producer, from his
great work on Liz Phair and Red Red Meat, because I think he will help me
get the sound I am looking for…everything is set to go, we don’t even
rehearse, we are just going to learn the songs on the fly.

The first day we in, I meet the new pro-tools guy, Bjorn (little do I know
that we will not only work together on my next 4 albums, but he will also
become a close friend)…the first song we are going to record is a beautiful
acoustic song that I envision will begin the album…James and D’arcy are not
even in the studio when I start working (this is fairly typical)…I have
bought an old Martin nylon string guitar just to record this particular
tune…however, the guitar won’t tune right, and every time I go to the d
chord, the darn thing is out of tune…too late!! Time to record…I decide I am
going to record the guitar and vocals live, with no click track…when I start
that first take, my whole body is shaking…I have totally put myself on the
spot like never before…I feel terrified, like I am going over a cliff, and
there is no one here to stop me (or catch me!)…Bjorn later told me that as I
was playing, Brad Wood was bragging to him and the other engineers in the
control room how much free equipment he had gotten by dropping the Pumpkins
name (instead of listening to the take)…when I finished, I asked Brad how it
was, he whirred around, pressed the talkback button said “that was great!”
(and in that very first hour, we recorded “To Sheila”)

the general idea was a good one, to record one song per day, and in the
beginning of the sessions this proved to be exciting and stimulating…I was
mostly just working by myself, as it was easier and quicker and less
stressful…after so many years of a passive-aggressive relationship of who
plays what, and when (and how), James and D’arcy now knew to just get out of
my way…Matt was my new partner, and stood by my side a lot as I navigated
all these new ideas…he was truly wonderful, and supportive of me, and
encouraged me to keep taking chances…The beginning of these sessions felt
magical, like a whole new world of possibility had opened up…long before we
had even started the album, an electronic song that I had done for the movie
“Lost Highway” had been a hit (the song ‘eye’)…this added to the sense that
I felt I could do no wrong…everything I touched (for about 5 years) seemed
to literally turn to gold…this created a sense that I could do whatever I
wanted, , and go wherever I wanted, and now I was going to tackle some sort
of futuristic, electronic folk-rock (and it would sell too!)…but as often
happens to an idea whose foundation is not based on pure intent, I ran out
of gas fairly quickly…I slowly found that Brad, my supposed co-producer,
wasn’t contributing much to the songs…I was used to guys like Flood, and
Butch, who thought the song you were singing was everything…Brad was more of
a “interesting type sounds guy”…and is often the case in the indie world, he
was used to using clever production to cover up weak writing…but this left
him without the skills to know how to get out of the way when a song was
great (which a few of these songs were)…I grew more and more isolated as the
days went by…I didn’t have Jimmy there to keep my spirits up (and also take
the music to a higher level)…it had become James and D’arcy vs. me in the
power department, and their opinion centered more on a “we’re tired, let’s
take some time off” vibe than what would be best for the album…instead of
taking stock of my own misgivings, or insecurities, I started to look for
someone or something to blame for my lack of resolve…the long, slow tailspin
started about 2 or 3 weeks in…instead of backing up, and seeing the writing
on the wall, I got even more determined and stubborn, and just pressed
myself harder…and sadly, stopped listening to anybody…

However, there were times in those first 6 weeks where the hassle was all
worth it…the most magical moment of these first sessions came when we were
set to record a long instrumental piece, at that time called “48 chords”
(notable for the fact that the chord sequence did not uniquely repeat until
48 successive chords were played)…up until that point, I had not dealt with
my divorce in any of the new songs, which I thought was odd considering the
bitter fallout, but I blamed it on the fact that I was in a fairly new
relationship and maybe just didn’t feel like getting into it (my girlfriend
at the time forbade me to speak of my marriage)…I woke up early on a crisp,
sunny morning, and reeled off a stream of consciousness type poem that
seemed very much to deal with my anger towards my ex-wife…this surprised me,
but I thought little more of it once I got in the shower…I typed it up, and
put it in my pocket thinking I might rip off some of the better lines for a
song as yet unwritten…I got to the studio, we miked up the piano, and fairly
quickly nailed the long sequence of chords (I kept time by playing to a
whole series of delays)…the basic concept is that I would put some guitar
and strings over the top of it, creating a piece like something for a movie
(one of the original ideas for Adore is that it would sound and feel more
like a movie score, with instrumentals interspersed amongst the “sung”
songs…) when I went into the control room, for some reason I pulled the poem
out of my pocket while the boys were busy doing something technical…I
started to sing the lines of the poem without much thought, and it was like
something out of a dream…suddenly, the song rushed upon me, coming quicker
than I could think it up…I got really excited, and ran out to a vocal
microphone…”hurry, hurry, I pleaded”, fearful the feeling and the thought I
was in would leave my body and never return…over the next 20 minutes,
working line by line, I “laid” out the entire song…sadly, every time I asked
Brad a question, he didn’t seem to have a solid answer, or feel as excited
as I did about the piece…it was like I was trying to convince somebody their
meal tastes better than it does…he just wasn’t “with” me, in lockstep…here I
was, having one of the most exciting moments of my recording life, and I
feel like I am in a boat by myself in the middle of the ocean…there was no
one else to turn to at that moment (again, no band in the studio)…by the
time I had finished singing all the lines, I had my mind made up…Brad would
have to go…

Feeling restless and uncertain, I start to blame Chicago for the gray clouds
hanging over the sessions…maybe it is my past here, far too many shadows and
people rooting against me…everywhere I drive in Chicago I am reminded of my
many failures…I was already paranoid (from years of self-denial), and
couldn’t accept that I was in way over my head…in addition, my girlfriend
really disliked Chicago, and didn’t want to spend any time there…I figured
that if we all relocated, she would be happier (and come stay with me thru
the end of recording)…I could get some support, the band could get some sun,
and all would “instantly” improve!…so of all places to get centered, and
find the heart of this album, I choose lovely, spiritually grounded Los
Angeles, California…(look out Hollywood, here I come)

The song on myspace changed too.

Axis of Action
04-12-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by CoolAsIceCream
It's not on the www.billycorgan.com website yet. But you can already read it on www.myspace.com/billycorgan



The song on myspace changed too.

it's My Mistake

Rockin' Cherub
04-12-2005, 02:01 PM
it's my mistake in the background. we share the same monkey desease.

Member Since February 18, 2005
Band Website billycorgan.com
Band Members ree, diss, memm
Influences klezmer, luscious jackson
Sounds Like sweet cinnamon rolls
Record Label Martha's Music, Warner Bros, Wal*Mart Budget Div.
Type of Label Indie

:erm

seign
04-12-2005, 06:03 PM
This is why I've stuck by Billy all of these years. He never ceases to amaze me. One minute he's writing little weird blog entries on his website about his cats and other random odds and ends, the next minute he's spilling his guts in one of the most honest and fascinating autobiographies I've ever read by a member of any band. You can never tell what is going to come next from the man. In the last 3 days or so, I've watched this board switch from almost everyone here criticizing any little fault they could pin on the him, to almost everyone being excited again, loving the new memoirs and drooling over what he'll write next.

This is why I think Billy is a genius. He has the potential to release some of the greatest music ever and to surprise his fans in so many different and exciting ways. I can't think of any other artist out there that keeps people guessing as much as Billy does. He has so much potential in every thing that he does and his fans are well aware of that. That's why I think everyone who dislikes some or all of his recent material still sticks around the boards and keeps up with whatever it is Billy is working on at the moment. They never know what they are going to get next but they all know he is capable of creating wonderful and exciting things.

Sorry for the long, ass-kissing thread but, right now I'm more excited then ever about hearing the new album. It feels like the months before Adore all over again. Better actually.

Dead
04-12-2005, 06:17 PM
So what you're saying is he has the ability to alternate between sucking and ruling at will.

Fonzie
04-12-2005, 06:29 PM
so is there anything between the first 2 blogs on Billycorgan.com and the Adore-era one on the myspace account?

Deleted_User
04-12-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by ZackZ
Why the hell would anyone befriend a smelly, dirty, pathetic loner that lives in a shed?what a dumb question.

Deleted_User
04-12-2005, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by ZackZ
Why the hell would anyone befriend a smelly, dirty, pathetic loner that lives in a shed?what a dumb question.

Deleted_User
04-12-2005, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by ZackZ
Why the hell would anyone befriend a smelly, dirty, pathetic loner that lives in a shed?what a dumb question.

Deleted_User
04-12-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by ZackZ
Why the hell would anyone befriend a smelly, dirty, pathetic loner that lives in a shed?what a dumb question.

Slurpee
04-12-2005, 07:24 PM
I have to say, if Billy had all that time in Florida to himself, he probably did a truckload of masturbating.

ZackZ
04-12-2005, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Slurpee
I have to say, if Billy had all that time in Florida to himself, he probably did a truckload of masturbating.

Didn't you read his post? He tried to fuck pre-op trannies.

Dead
04-12-2005, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by ZackZ


Didn't you read his post? He tried to fuck pre-op trannies.
No, he just tried to cop a feel

1,000 Sighs
04-13-2005, 01:26 AM
living in the tampa/st. pete area, it is hard to imagine billy roaming around here almost 20 years ago. there is still a huge goth population around here....

mistle
04-13-2005, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by shorterplease
what a dumb question.

the server agrees!

azvd
04-13-2005, 12:09 PM
Can't wait until he gets to that part when he got his "Bolly" nickname. :D

seign
04-17-2005, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Dead
So what you're saying is he has the ability to alternate between sucking and ruling at will.

No. I'm saying he keeps things fresh and exciting. He loses fans along the way but picks up different fans at the same time. At least one of his albums hit a nerve with EVERYONE on this board. Chances are that sooner or later, he'll hit the same nerve again with everyone here at least once more.

I'm a little intoxicated now and can't put my thoughts to words exactly how I'd like to but I think you get my point.