View Full Version : Is Billy losing his fans?


TumoraXsault
03-22-2005, 06:09 PM
*If you dont want to read this, its fine. Im just posting my anger out to all the Corgan fans that still exist. You can flame this all you want, but it just shows your ignorance, for Im trying to see what other "fans" think of Billy today. This could be rather long, just to let you know.*

I became a fan of the Pumpkins in December of 2000 (sadly the month that they broke up) and since then I would try to ******* the topic Billy Corgan in everything I did and do (remember that gay-ass college paper I had to write?). I tried keeping updated on every bit of news that came out and although I wasnt able to go to a Pumpkins concert, I was able to go to a Zwan concert. A few years later, I went to see him at his poetry signing. This had to be the happiest moment of my life (kinda sad, huh?). But it was a moment that I finally got to meet him. Now suddenly he lies and says his album is coming out and now its not coming out for awhile. He lied to his fans, not that he hadnt done that before, but when a person lies and then disappears it sorta pisses me off. If the album isnt finished I would himm to write on his blog that it isnt finished. Im starting to lose my faith in him and Im sure that a lot of his fans are as well.

The point of me saying this is if Billy wants to keep any of his fans, he should really notify us about what is taking so long, because Im truly fed up right now with all this lying and his disappearence. He is truly letting his fans down.

NilSineDeo
03-22-2005, 06:13 PM
patience is a virtue

eraserhead
03-22-2005, 06:21 PM
and trolling is a vice.

NilSineDeo
03-22-2005, 07:25 PM
how am I trolling?

too many people get pissed off because Billy doesn't update us. Yeah, I wish we'd hear more too, but we should be thankful that he even tries.

And now that we know this major release of songs is coming up in two weeks, we know that Billy's been busy as of late. Billy also mentioned that this is only the beginning, and there's "much more to come." Getting all these songs together, and remastering them, or whatever needs to be done must take a lot of time that will delay other things of his.

We should be happy that Billy's trying to do this. After all, he's doing this all for us.

The New
03-22-2005, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by TumoraXsault
Now suddenly he lies and says his album is coming out and now its not coming out for awhile. He lied to his fans, not that he hadnt done that before, but when a person lies and then disappears it sorta pisses me off.

I though he said we're HOPING for a spring release
I'm not positive but i think he always worded things so that there was nothing definite

NilSineDeo
03-22-2005, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Screamin' Wild


I though he said we're HOPING for a spring release
I'm not positive but i think he always worded things so that there was nothing definite

I believe he said that too.

and it's smart for him to never sound too definite. God only knows what can happen month to month or day to day.

RopeyLopey
03-22-2005, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by TumoraXsault
I think you should get together with zbeast78 (the author of this thread:http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87178) and get to see that fucker in his house.

Liquid-J
03-22-2005, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo
We should be happy that Billy's trying to do this. After all, he's doing this all for us.

i agree he does far more for his fans than most other artists in terms of getting music out there (and always pretty cheaply too), but i don't think it's JU$T for the fans. he gets $omething out of it too. which is how it should be. but yeah

Luke de Spa
03-22-2005, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Liquid-J
i agree he does far more for his fans than most other artists in terms of getting music out there (and always pretty cheaply too), but i don't think it's JU$T for the fans. he gets $omething out of it too. which is how it should be. but yeah
Adulation and cash, the mythical combination of motivators...

Axl Rose
03-22-2005, 09:37 PM
no

Liquid-J
03-22-2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Lucky Day Spa

Adulation and cash, the mythical combination of motivators...


word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Luke de Spa
03-22-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Liquid-J



word!!!xLOTS OMG EDITED FOR COOLNESS
Oh, I forgot "Using one's fame to get discounts at Sonya's Psychic Retard Ranch".

Fuckin' weirdo.

Who wants to take bets on at least one song on "TheFutureEmbrace" (or whatever ridiculous name it eventually sports can he top "MACHINA/the Machines of God" for dumbness? WAIT AND SEE, TROOPERS!) being about reincarnated pets? Hmm?

MeAndMyLlama
03-23-2005, 12:56 AM
and to what exactly does he owe the fans? so what we all saved our allowances/got jobs to buy his records. if we didnt somebody else wouldve. how many millions of people got siamese dream and mellon collie? if the members of this boards never heard an sp song he would still have his house on the west coast.

ciGarski
03-23-2005, 01:05 AM
he may be losing fans, but its not because his projected release dates or whatever get pushed back and hasn't updated his blog in 4 months.

DieDiemydarling
03-23-2005, 01:07 AM
Why don't we boycott all Billy products!

alexthestampede
03-23-2005, 02:21 AM
you guys cant even get his stuff played on trl

DieDiemydarling
03-23-2005, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by alexthestampede
you guys cant even get his stuff played on trl Yeah, he simply isn't 'hip' enough to be on such a cool show as trl.

french_rap_sucks
03-23-2005, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by TumoraXsault
[BI. Now suddenly he lies and says his album is coming out and now its not coming out for awhile. He lied to his fans, not that he hadnt done that before, but when a person lies and then disappears it sorta pisses me off. He is truly letting his fans down. [/B]

i think maybe you're taking it too personally. there are other bands out there and they're are some other ones that are pretty damn good.

chris_bakewell
03-23-2005, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo
how am I trolling?

too many people get pissed off because Billy doesn't update us. Yeah, I wish we'd hear more too, but we should be thankful that he even tries.

And now that we know this major release of songs is coming up in two weeks, we know that Billy's been busy as of late. Billy also mentioned that this is only the beginning, and there's "much more to come." Getting all these songs together, and remastering them, or whatever needs to be done must take a lot of time that will delay other things of his.

We should be happy that Billy's trying to do this. After all, he's doing this all for us.

I agree with this person.....

chris_bakewell
03-23-2005, 07:07 AM
I'll always be a fan of billy!!!!!

He gave us the pumpkins, how can we forget this!!!!!


You'll all come running back in a few years when the pumpkins are back together, you'll see..........

But i'll remember the dickheads on here who pretend they don't like the pumpkins anymore!!!!

Me Isle, liquid - j and some others are the only true Pumpkins fans........

Starla
03-23-2005, 11:09 AM
Dear bolls, please post something on your blog. I'm simply going to die if you don't. I swear it. I'm gonna kill myself if I don't hear something soon. I just may die from the lack of your new release. I mean it this time damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Cool As Ice Cream
03-23-2005, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo
We should be happy that Billy's trying to do this. After all, he's doing this all for us. He's too good.

zerock
03-23-2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by NilSineDeo
"much more to come."
damn billy has said that for the longest time, i can remember.

douglas78
03-23-2005, 02:06 PM
RIGHT ON BAKEWELL!!

chris_bakewell
03-23-2005, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by douglas78
RIGHT ON BAKEWELL!!

Yeah!!!! You are also a true fan of Billy and the Pumpkins!!!!

TheEdgeboy
03-23-2005, 04:14 PM
if Billy's losing fans I'd say its proportional to the amount getting shaved off from Rock n' Roll in general in these times...

seign
03-23-2005, 06:39 PM
After every release Billy gains some fans and loses some fans. Just like every other band out there. The difference between Billy's fans over the years and most other bands is the type of fans Billy gains after each release. Because of the way his music has drastically evolved over the years, the type of fans he has now is totally different then the type of fans from the old days of the first few Pumpkins releases. Not many goth kids were into the pumpkins durring the psychodelic gish/siamese/mellon collie days, just as not many of the hard rock fans are still around after releases like adore and machina. I've been a fan since right before SD came out and I guess I've been lucky enough to enjoy most of the music since then. I admire artists that have to balls to completely change their sound from album to album. Especially as drastically as the change between MCIS and Adore. Not everyone has the balls to go from having the best selling double album of all time to something as completely different as Adore was at the time.

IoftheRadio
03-23-2005, 08:14 PM
I know that there was one mix of the album that was done by Christmas. Maybe he has gone back to redo some things, but I have a source that listened to the album with Alan Moulder in December.

So...it was "done" at least once, but knowing Billy, it probably has about 15 more rounds to go through.

vbshlofbvgos
03-23-2005, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by TumoraXsault

The point of me saying this is if Billy wants to keep any of his fans, he should really notify us about what is taking so long, because Im truly fed up right now with all this lying and his disappearence. He is truly letting his fans down.

you need to settle down there killer. he's disapponting his fans by releasing a new album? just because you're too psycho impatient to wait for any little trivial detail to come along?
does he have to give you an hourly update on his site every day for you to be satisfied? just chill.

smashingjj
03-23-2005, 09:55 PM
*If you dont want to read this, its fine. Im just posting my anger out to all the Corgan fans that still exist. You can flame this all you want, but it just shows your ignorance, for Im trying to see what other "fans" think of Billy today. This could be rather long, just to let you know.*

i lUv b0LY

TumoraXsault
03-23-2005, 11:29 PM
does he have to give you an hourly update on his site every day for you to be satisfied?

Once every month or too would do fine... but since you mentioned it, that would be acceptable as well :D

chris_bakewell
03-24-2005, 06:42 AM
Billy got a life you know, which also needs tending to.

Like i said before he has given us the pumpkins which is enough for me, they was the best!! and always will be.........

BILLY!!!!!!

ciGarski
03-24-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by vbshlofbvgos


you need to settle down there killer. he's disapponting his fans by releasing a new album? just because you're too psycho impatient to wait for any little trivial detail to come along?
does he have to give you an hourly update on his site every day for you to be satisfied? just chill.

right on. you all should enjoy not knowing every little detail. just let that album speak for its self. remember the days before album leaks and internet blogs? yeah i think we will be ok.
i dont know why billy doesn't update his webpage, it has been like 3 months. a simple hello would be nice, but like i said, well make it.
part of the fun is anticipating the material.

CherubDaydream
03-24-2005, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by chris_bakewell
Billy got a life you know, which also needs tending to.

Like i said before he has given us the pumpkins which is enough for me, they was the best!! and always will be.........

BILLY!!!!!!

Bakewell you're the (second-;))best!!!! I agree whole-heartedly with this post! Billy will ALWAYS have support from his/her true fans!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cool As Ice Cream
03-24-2005, 02:11 PM
message from jimmy and james:

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obscured
03-24-2005, 03:37 PM
Hey he has lots of fans that have been with him for YEARS. I'll admit i haven't kept up with zwan very much but there are a few things you have to understand about being a musician/artist.
When a band says their album is going to be released on some date, thats always tentative. Recording an album is a TON of work and esspecially when you are dealing with record companies and shit like that, things can certainly change. It doesn't mean he is "lying" to you. He is (has been) way more appreciative of his fans than a lot of musicians are, its nice of him to keep you all updated at all. But he is a HUMAN BEING too, with a life and things to do. He has no obligation to keep you informed on every little change in his plans.

-obscured

seign
03-25-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by ciGarki


remember the days before album leaks and internet blogs?

You know what's strange about this post? There are probably some kids on this board that AREN'T old enough to remember the days before album leaks and internet blogs. Creepy. Makes me feel old heh.

chris_bakewell
03-25-2005, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by CoolAsIceCream
message from jimmy and james:

<img src="http://forums.netphoria.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1547427">

Fuck you too, you stupid cunt i can't stand you!!!!!

chris_bakewell
03-25-2005, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by CherubDaydream


Bakewell you're the (second-;))best!!!! I agree whole-heartedly with this post! Billy will ALWAYS have support from his/her true fans!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!!!:)