If so, what's nicer: Estes Park or Vail?

south park

lol

lo;l

My family used to live there before I was born.

Too much snow.

http://www.smileys.ws/sm/sport/00000033.gif

well, youll get more yuppies in vail.

I'm a yuppie, so I don't care about that. But which is prettier? If we go to vail, we'll be staying here

http://www.sonnenalp.com/

If we go to Estes Park, we'll be here

http://www.romanticriversong.com/

I just wonder how much nicer being on the edge of Rocky Mountain National Park in Estes Park will be compared to Vail, when snow isn't on the ground at the lower elevations.

Basically, we want a mountain retreat in a kickass resort or bed and breakfast.

I heard that Aspen is really expensive because the stupid famous people started going there.

dont go to colorado, go to park city, utah.

thats a fun place.

or

big sky, montana
red lodge, montana

Originally posted by boynameddarcy
I heard that Aspen is really expensive because the stupid famous people started going there. Well, good thing I don't care about Aspen, then.

Originally posted by tootsie
dont go to colorado, go to park city, utah.

thats a fun place.

or

big sky, montana
red lodge, montana Link me to their best resorts, please. Price no object.

over the summer i went to aspen (comparable to vail) and boulder (comparable to estes park). Aspen is beautiful but is also full of yuppies, to the nth degree. i saw ONE black person the whole week i was there. And no one smokes there. craziness. but understandable. Boulder was a lot cooler, the people were cooler and there were a lot of neat shops/restaurants.
so as far as JUST beauty was concerned, aspen (or vail, in your case) was better, but it has no atmosphere, if that makes sense.

Originally posted by sppunk
Link me to their best resorts, please. Price no object.

i really dont know any off the top of my head.

im not sure if they have resorts.....

Originally posted by Eve
i saw ONE black person the whole week i was there.

generally thats typical of the area though, not just vail.

Originally posted by Eve
over the summer i went to aspen (comparable to vail) and boulder (comparable to estes park). Aspen is beautiful but is also full of yuppies, to the nth degree. i saw ONE black person the whole week i was there. And no one smokes there. craziness. but understandable. Boulder was a lot cooler, the people were cooler and there were a lot of neat shops/restaurants.
so as far as JUST beauty was concerned, aspen (or vail, in your case) was better, but it has no atmosphere, if that makes sense. But the difference is Estes Park is on the lip of the RMNP, whereas Boulder isn't, right? And not smoking is a positive, not a negative.

Originally posted by Eve
i saw ONE black person the whole week i was there. You really have become quite the own-race hater

Look, I don't mean to sound racist, but skiing just isn't that popular with black people

Go to a basketball court in the Bronx and I don't think you'll see a bunch of white folk either

there just arent a lot of black people in colorado, idaho, montana, utah. thats all there is to it.

Originally posted by tootsie
there just arent a lot of black people in colorado, idaho, montana, utah. thats all there is to it. I looked up stuff in Montana, but they don't seem to interest me. I want real Rocky Mountains, the Continental Divide, et al.

Originally posted by sppunk
anyone know anything about colorado?

the men are men and the sheep are afraid

Originally posted by tootsie
there just arent a lot of black people in colorado, idaho, montana, utah. thats all there is to it.

African American Population:

1. MS (around 41%)
2. LA
3. SC
4. GA
5. MD
.
.
.
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46. ID
47. ND
48. ME
49. VT
50. MT ( less than 1%)

From a political science text I have laying around.

i bet its waaaaaaaay less than 1%

id say ive seen less than 20 black people in this state (not counting the blacks in the jail where i used to work....lots more there).

i'm not anti-white. i'm just saying i was surprised to see only one black person. and the only hispanics i saw were construction workers. i figured since it was a fairly populated town, it'd be more racially diverse. i'm used to st. louis.

i was expecting to see a crack at Kobe in here...:unhappy:

estes park

Originally posted by Randall Sandell
estes park

viels is more full of annoying uppity people.

though if you are going for your honeymoon, that may be what you want.