So who puts the bug in candidates' ears about seeming what they are not? John Kerry last week professed to be a big fan of "Manny Ortez," then re-emphasized the phoofery by correcting it to "David Ortez." No, that was Dave (Baby) Cortez and "The Happy Organ." A few years back Kerry went on a Boston station with Eddie Andelman and said "my favorite Red Sox player of all time is The Walking Man, Eddie Yost," who never played for the Red Sox. Kerry is going to sweep New England. He's going to get 70 percent of the vote in Massachusetts. He doesn't have to be a Red Sox fan, all he has to do is not be John Ashcroft.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1842904

This thread is like a foreign language to me

Originally posted by DeviousJ
This thread is like a foreign language to me I'll translate:

So who puts the bug in candidates' ears about seeming what they are not? John Kerry last week professed to be a big fan of soccer star "John Becker," then re-emphasized the phoofery by correcting it to "David Becker." A few years back Kerry went on a Boston station with Eddie Andelman and said "my favorite Man U player of all time is Pele," who never played for Man U. Kerry is going to sweep New England. He's going to get 70 percent of the vote in Massachusetts. He doesn't have to be a Red Sox fan, all he has to do is not be John Ashcroft.

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I'll translate:

So who puts the bug in candidates' ears about seeming what they are not? John Kerry last week professed to be a big fan of soccer star "John Becker," then re-emphasized the phoofery by correcting it to "David Becker." A few years back Kerry went on a Boston station with Eddie Andelman and said "my favorite Man U player of all time is Pele," who never played for Man U. Kerry is going to sweep New England. He's going to get 70 percent of the vote in Massachusetts. He doesn't have to be a Red Sox fan, all he has to do is not be John Ashcroft.

I get it now.

So, how about that Ryan Giggs, eh? And is Rooney gonna sign For Man Utd?

Originally posted by Fonzie


I get it now.

So, how about that Ryan Giggs, eh? And is Rooney gonna sign For Man Utd? Now I have no idea what you're saying.

kerry is stupid for trying to act like he knows what he's talking about in things unrelated to his real interests. politicians should realize it's okay to NOT know some things, especially in entertainment and such. the everyman thing is hokey for most of the big guns on the hill. bill clinton is the only "everyguy" because he did have a childhood minus fancy prep schools and above average income parents.

but that kerry and bush are millionaires, i couldn't care less. i don't think making 40,ooo or 40,ooo,ooo matters as long as you pay attention to the needs of the everyman and don't ignore them pursuing hatred for the elite or ignoring the everyman for your elitist inner circle.

Wait, you're getting on Kerry's case for not knowing about baseball when:

1. Bush is just as patrician, coming from a rich N.E. family, and
2. He, unlike K, actually ran a baseball team into the ground?

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants
Wait, you're getting on Kerry's case for not knowing about baseball when:

1. Bush is just as patrician, coming from a rich N.E. family, and
2. He, unlike K, actually ran a baseball team into the ground? I'm not getting on Kerry's case for not knowing about baseball.

I simply fins it hillarious and perfectly in character for him to claim he knows all about it when he demonstrates he doesn't even know the name of one player on his "favorite team."

Maybe more of those "world leaders" he also speaks with constantly will give him some pointers.

Isn't John Becker the guy from Cheers? Is this about sitcoms then?

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son


Maybe more of those "world leaders" he also speaks with constantly will give him some pointers.

ummmm, that makes no sense. bad joke buddy.

Originally posted by Pudge


ummmm, that makes no sense. bad joke buddy. Uh, it wasn't a joke. It was a reference to another claim that Kerry made that he can't substantiate or give specifics about without looking foolish.

Ummm if I had to pick a favorite baseball team I'd say the Cubs. I know they have Sosa....and Alou. Only because I hear people scream their names during games through my window. I have no clue of players names besides the most famous. Hell, I even watch games from time to time too.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
Ummm if I had to pick a favorite baseball team I'd say the Cubs. I know they have Sosa....and Alou. Only because I hear people scream their names during games through my window. I have no clue of players names besides the most famous. Hell, I even watch games from time to time too. Right, which is fine.

But you don't run for office and then to shed your silver spoon image and say that you're a huge Cubs fan and that you love Stevie Sasa.

Nimrod's Son has been quite simply hilarious in this thread.

I tip my cap to you, good sir.

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants
Wait, you're getting on Kerry's case for not knowing about baseball when:

1. Bush is just as patrician, coming from a rich N.E. family, and
2. He, unlike K, actually ran a baseball team into the ground?

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new"><h1>SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP</h1>

I hate this board. I wish it was deleted. I make a good solid thread about affirmative action hoping to spur some actual debate in here and all we continue to get is pedantic namecalling.

e.g.:
"JOHN KERRY IS A DOUCHE!"
"YEAH WELL HE'S NOT G.W.!"
"OH YEAH WELL YOUR MOM GIVES BAD HEAD."
"NOT AS BAD AS BUSH!"

The people who wanted this board complained about the idiots on the Gen Chat board. You nitwits aren't much better.</font>

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
<font color=#007AAA face="courier new"><h1>SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP</h1>

I hate this board. I wish it was deleted. I make a good solid thread about affirmative action hoping to spur some actual debate in here and all we continue to get is pedantic namecalling.

e.g.:
"JOHN KERRY IS A DOUCHE!"
"YEAH WELL HE'S NOT G.W.!"
"OH YEAH WELL YOUR MOM GIVES BAD HEAD."
"NOT AS BAD AS BUSH!"

The people who wanted this board complained about the idiots on the Gen Chat board. You nitwits aren't much better.</font>

*pats you on the back*

It's ok, big guy. You want a soo-da?

On a more serious note, what did you think--that partisan politics and mudslinging weren't going to enter into a board dedicated to the most heated election in recent memory?

That aff. action thread really did get derailed, though. You have a point.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros


<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">
"JOHN KERRY IS A DOUCHE!"
"YEAH WELL HE'S NOT G.W.!"
"OH YEAH WELL YOUR MOM GIVES BAD HEAD."
"NOT AS BAD AS BUSH!"</font>

:rofl:

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants
On a more serious note, what did you think--that partisan politics and mudslinging weren't going to enter into a board dedicated to the most heated election in recent memory?

That aff. action thread really did get derailed, though. You have a point.

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">I can't believe you gleefully participate in partisan politics and mudslinging. That's not how it's supposed to work!

ISSUES, PEOPLE, ISSUES.</font>

There are no issues in this election.

If there were, someone would bring up the fact the stock market is crumbling (oops, didn't see that one coming), unemployment is up again, Bush promised six million new jobs and is in a one million job hole.

Oh, and that whole thing about health care which is much more fucking important than how we're going to help Pakistan relate to Israel.

But, Bush has forgotten he's running the U.S., not the middle east war game. Hopefully Kerry kicks off his domestic agenda and beats Bush's ass at the Convention next week.

Originally posted by sppunk
There are no issues in this election.

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">Iraq
Healthcare
Education
etc

the same issues as always, why don't we discuss them. I think we've fully exhausted the Iraq topic.

It's the media that's making it look like a personality contest.</font>

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros
<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">I can't believe you gleefully participate in partisan politics and mudslinging. That's not how it's supposed to work!

ISSUES, PEOPLE, ISSUES.</font>

I agree with you. But think of it this way: Based on <i>the issues,</i> people don't like GWB--thus the mudslinging. It's juvenile, but occasionally one just gets so riled up that one says stupid things. Like in the middle of any fight, really, except this one's a lot more important (and dorkier). It's not something to be proud of, but I'd argue that it is inevitable, and perhaps uncontrollable, in an election year such as this one.

At the same time, I won't deny that a lot of the GWB hate is most likely based in groupthink as opposed to serious thought. And of course, as you say, there is a very serious need to return to issues. I'm sure you read my anti-Nader diatribes; I'm the last person you know who would say this election is not based on issues. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just feeding off the dogma of radicals.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros


<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">I hate this board. I wish it was deleted. I make a good solid thread about affirmative action hoping to spur some actual debate in here and all we continue to get is pedantic namecalling.
</font>

Hey, that thread got to 3 pages biznatch.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros


<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">Iraq
Healthcare
Education
etc

the same issues as always, why don't we discuss them. I think we've fully exhausted the Iraq topic.

It's the media that's making it look like a personality contest.</font>

No, the only issue they debate is Iraq - and it's not even being debated, just "You don't know what you're doing" by both candidates.

The other things are thrown around, but Bush refuses to even project how he plans to help domestic problems - because, again, he's too concerned with running the Middle East than the United States or Britian, which any upstanding president loves to run. :)

Originally posted by sppunk
The other things are thrown around, but Bush refuses to even project how he plans to help domestic problems - because, again, he's too concerned with running the Middle East than the United States or Britian, which any upstanding president loves to run. :) Usually candidates, especially incumbents, release their proposals and agendas at or directly after the convention in order for the "bounce" to allow it to be presented to the largest audience.

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
Usually candidates, especially incumbents, release their proposals and agendas at or directly after the convention in order for the "bounce" to allow it to be presented to the largest audience.

Yeah, but this isn't a "usual" election. There was little bounce after either convention last year since the two parties are so divided.

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
soccer

try again!