View Full Version : Foriegn Policy vs. Domestic Policy


Nimrod's Son
07-06-2004, 07:42 PM
Which is more important to you?

To me, it's clearly domestic policy, as I think Kerry's foreign agenda won't be much different from Bush's. Actually, I think Kerry is more likely to succeed when it comes to military actions, because the Republicans in Congress are much less likely to block or fight Kerry on military issues than the Dems would be to Bush.

On the domestic front, I'm far more aligned to Bush's plans than to Kerry's. While I realize that doesn't mean Bush will STICK to his plan, the fact remains that Kerry's domestic plans to raise taxes and eliminate tax credits while increasing the size of government goes against everything I believe in.

Anyway, I'm not voting for either of them barring a miracle.

BeautifulLoser
07-06-2004, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Nimrod's Son

Anyway, I'm not voting for either of them barring a miracle. But not voting makes the baby Jesus cry!

Oh, and I believe domestic is more important as well.

Nimrod's Son
07-06-2004, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by BeautifulLoser
But not voting makes the baby Jesus cry!
I'm voting.

sppunk
07-06-2004, 08:42 PM
Increased taxes IS NOT THE PROBLEM. Jesus Christ, taxes are good. The problem is we get jack shit in return. We have no government-funded programs that help the country.

With increased taxes comes affordable health care, less poverty, higher standard of living, etc.

I'll vote for that over tax cuts that put is into more debt and a sluggish dollar anyday of the week.

Nimrod's Son
07-06-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by sppunk
Increased taxes IS NOT THE PROBLEM. Jesus Christ, taxes are good. The problem is we get jack shit in return. We have no government-funded programs that help the country.

With increased taxes comes affordable health care, less poverty, higher standard of living, etc.

I'll vote for that over tax cuts that put is into more debt and a sluggish dollar anyday of the week. Why don't they just tax us all at 100% and give us what they think we want?

Debaser
07-06-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
Which is more important to you?

To me, it's clearly domestic policy, as I think Kerry's foreign agenda won't be much different from Bush's. Actually, I think Kerry is more likely to succeed when it comes to military actions, because the Republicans in Congress are much less likely to block or fight Kerry on military issues than the Dems would be to Bush.


With bush completely squandering all international goodwill towards the u.s., the foreign policy will be greatly improved by the mere action of getting rid of him. Congress has had little bearing on foreign policy. All that has happened is bush asks for money for the war and they give it up. that's it. congress is not making any of the decisions on what to do with said money.

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
On the domestic front, I'm far more aligned to Bush's plans than to Kerry's. While I realize that doesn't mean Bush will STICK to his plan, the fact remains that Kerry's domestic plans to raise taxes and eliminate tax credits while increasing the size of government goes against everything I believe in.

Anyway, I'm not voting for either of them barring a miracle.

So far bush has cut taxes for the rich, turned a budget surplus into a gigantic deficit, cut spending on programs such as veteran's healthcare, misled congress on the cost of this war, relax environmental laws to benefit big business, enact high educational standards but at the same time underfund it and employ such narrow testing parameters that deem almost all esl students as failures no matter what and traps failing schools into a cycle of always failing (all the good students transfer out of the school and the funding gets cut), the economic recovery has stalled. wages are still falling. unemployment rate has been stuck at 5.6% for 3 months, etc etc etc. I could go on forever.

My critical analysis is this: bush's domestic policy sucks big fat donkey balls. thank you.

Since Kerry is pretty low key on his plans (since all he needs to do is keep is mouth shut as bush loses the election all by himself), I do believe he has plans to raise taxes on the rich back to the levels that they had in the booming 90's. He also has said he wants to enact a real middle class tax cut (not the bait and switch that bush pulled).

And since you say that big government goes against everything you believe in, why vote republican? if you delve into real history you will find out that the republicans are the masters of saying they want to reduce government, but in reality they do the exact opposite (i.e. the reagan era with the tremendous military spending - hello! that's big government, yo).

hmmm....i think I'll vote Kerry.

sppunk
07-07-2004, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
Why don't they just tax us all at 100% and give us what they think we want?

Don't take things to the extreme. We get nothing from our taxes. Sweden tax rates are about 13 percent higher, yet they have the highest standard of living, lowest poverty, best health care and longest longevity rates in the world.

They know what they do with the money. America just spends it wastefully on idiotic military plans that are pointless. I wish Bush would for ONCE cut spending. He hasn't even tried it while in office. I ask just ONCE.

Mr. Rhinoceros
07-07-2004, 02:30 AM
<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">They are of equal importance.</font>

BeautifulLoser
07-07-2004, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I'm voting. Oh ok.. I misread.

jczeroman
07-07-2004, 09:10 AM
Domestic is much more important. Bush's rhetoric often sounds decent on domestic, btu like mike said, what he says and what he does are two different things. Kerry is a nut job when it comes to domestic.

Bush really didn't help our relationship with the rest of the world. Kerry migh tbe able to do better.

But I'm 90% sure I won't vote either of them.