View Full Version : Ok, everyone, let's get this Clinton thing straight so you can stop misusing it.


Alfredo!
04-28-2004, 05:33 PM
Clinton got impeached for lying under oath, not for getting his dick sucked. Period.

It's been said in other threads, but I just wanted to make it clear to everyone so you don't sound like an idiot when you start your arguements.

Quiet CD
04-28-2004, 05:35 PM
it just sounds so much better when making an argument ;)

Alfredo!
04-28-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Quiet CD
it just sounds so much better when making an argument ;) Maybe, if you don't know what you're talking about...

Quiet CD
04-28-2004, 05:37 PM
fucking joking, relax already, its not like im under oath for any of this.

Mariner
04-28-2004, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Quiet CD
fucking joking, relax already, its not like im under oath for any of this.

Clearly you have not read Netphoria's front page.

Alfredo!
04-28-2004, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Quiet CD
fucking joking, relax already, its not like im under oath for any of this. Hey, notice I used a smiley.... you're the one that needs to calm down, man.

Quiet CD
04-28-2004, 05:43 PM
well thank you for correcting people who were incorrectly stating things.

Alfredo!
04-28-2004, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Quiet CD
well thank you for correcting people who were incorrectly stating things. Word life, bra.

homechicago
04-28-2004, 06:30 PM
yep, he lied under oath. i know that's why he sailed into the sea of impeachment.

too bad he didn't just let the executive privilages fly like some people and just refuse to appear before a court of any kind in the first place. oh, wait, that's right. he probably couldn't just refuse to be under oath and that was that. ken starr and his henchmen spent plenty of my tax dollars making sure he'd end up in a hard place.

we all knew about paula, jennifer, and others, he should have told the truth and then he never would have had to face a grand jury for lying about something so stupid.

Nimrod
04-28-2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by homechicago
we all knew about paula, jennifer, and others, he should have told the truth and then he never would have had to face a grand jury for lying about something so stupid. He's a typical cheater. It's not the cheating that usully is the most damaging thing, it's the lying.

sppunk
04-29-2004, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod
He's a typical cheater. It's not the cheating that usully is the most damaging thing, it's the lying.

The current goons who run the joint NEVER have lied! :coughwmdcoughcombatovercoughnotoccupierscoughcoug h:

Nimrod
04-29-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by sppunk


The current goons who run the joint NEVER have lied! :coughwmdcoughcombatovercoughnotoccupierscoughcoug h: Why is it that whenever someone says "Clinton lied" the only response is "BUSH LIES!!"

It's like when you get punished and you try and tell your mom "but Jimmy's mom let's him do it!"

sppunk
04-29-2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod
Why is it that whenever someone says "Clinton lied" the only response is "BUSH LIES!!"

It's like when you get punished and you try and tell your mom "but Jimmy's mom let's him do it!"

Every time someone brings up the failure of the administration to stop two plans from flying into the leading visual icon of the U.S., you claim Clinton was at fault more than Bush.

It was Bush's watch, not Clinton's. Clinton had repeatedly ordered al Quada and bin Laden killed. The CIA, the neanderthals they are, fucked that up as well. Bush all but ignored the memo saying we would be attacked, ignored his own advisors begging for more involvement on security and ignored the fact he has a duty to do everything in his goddamn power to stop such an attack.

Guess what; he didn't do everything in his power. As a result, America is pushed back 60 years int he world's eyes and we have no clue who are our friends and who are our enemies, aside from Great Britain and Israel ... and I wouldn't say Israel is a good ally to be helping.

Nimrod
04-29-2004, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by sppunk


Every time someone brings up the failure of the administration to stop two plans from flying into the leading visual icon of the U.S., you claim Clinton was at fault more than Bush.

It was Bush's watch, not Clinton's. Clinton had repeatedly ordered al Quada and bin Laden killed. The CIA, the neanderthals they are, fucked that up as well. Bush all but ignored the memo saying we would be attacked, ignored his own advisors begging for more involvement on security and ignored the fact he has a duty to do everything in his goddamn power to stop such an attack.

Guess what; he didn't do everything in his power. As a result, America is pushed back 60 years int he world's eyes and we have no clue who are our friends and who are our enemies, aside from Great Britain and Israel ... and I wouldn't say Israel is a good ally to be helping. Again... dood.. if I turn around a "Bush lied" argument, call me on it. You're once again avoiding the issue at hand.

Anyway, Richard Clarke himself said there was nothing that could have been done past 1999 that could have prevented 9/11. If you have a bone to pick, pick it with him.

if you are
04-29-2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod
Why is it that whenever someone says "Clinton lied" the only response is "BUSH LIES!!"

It's like when you get punished and you try and tell your mom "but Jimmy's mom let's him do it!"

because clinton's lies had no effect on us! hey i agree clinton was a lying cheating bastard.. but bush is a lying bastard too, whose lies are killing our soldiers and spending billions of dollars for a war that a great percentage of us didn't agree with in the first place. clinton just lied about cheating on his wife.. what man wouldn't? :rolleyes:

tootsie
04-29-2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by if you are


because clinton's lies had no effect on us! hey i agree clinton was a lying cheating bastard.. but bush is a lying bastard too, whose lies are killing our soldiers and spending billions of dollars for a war that a great percentage of us didn't agree with in the first place. clinton just lied about cheating on his wife.. what man wouldn't? :rolleyes:

word :cool:

Nimrod
04-29-2004, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by if you are


because clinton's lies had no effect on us! hey i agree clinton was a lying cheating bastard.. but bush is a lying bastard too, whose lies are killing our soldiers and spending billions of dollars for a war that a great percentage of us didn't agree with in the first place. clinton just lied about cheating on his wife.. what man wouldn't? :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure if I were President of the United States, even if I was married to that shrew I'd not cheat on my wife (while in office, for sure) and certainly wouldn't commit a felony to cover it up.

Alfredo!
04-29-2004, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod
I'm pretty sure if I were President of the United States, even if I was married to that shrew I'd not cheat on my wife (while in office, for sure) and certainly wouldn't commit a felony to cover it up. But would you start a war for no good reason, killing soldiers and civilians, and completely abandon Afghanistan after you promised to rebuild it and give it aid?

Nimrod
04-29-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Alfredo!
But would you start a war for no good reason, killing soldiers and civilians, and completely abandon Afghanistan after you promised to rebuild it and give it aid? Good reasons are subjective, your second point about killing soldiers and civillians is moot because that's what "war" is, and as for Afghanistan, no I wouldn't abandon it.

Has Afghanistan been abandoned? There are still an awful lot of soldiers over there. I think the media have abandonded it.

Alfredo!
04-29-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Nimrod
Good reasons are subjective, your second point about killing soldiers and civillians is moot because that's what "war" is, and as for Afghanistan, no I wouldn't abandon it.

Has Afghanistan been abandoned? There are still an awful lot of soldiers over there. I think the media have abandonded it. Is there a stable government over there? How much of that $40 million was going to rebuilding Afghanistan and how much of it was going to Iraq? Special Forces are in Afghanistan, but they're mainly there to hunt down Bin Laden. All the "peace keeping" forces are in Iraq.

homechicago
04-30-2004, 12:18 PM
i'm mad i had to hear about it at all. the gop, not the media, were hungry to sensationalize his sex life.

thanks ken starr, for wasting 40 mil to prove someone lied about an affair. it was SO important to let people know about that. you should work for entertainment tonight.

i'd care more about him lying if it were for something pertaining to national policy issues, or war, or drunk driving, or cocaine use, or weapons trades, etc.

w gets mentioned because many people feel there are big truth gaps in most of what he says and what he refuses to say, and saying clinton lied about lying about sex doesn't prove anything about his dealings with the country, yet people act as though that lie proves that w has never lied about anything because he didn't have an affair or lie about an affair.

Mr. Rhinoceros
04-30-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Nimrod
He's a typical cheater. It's not the cheating that usully is the most damaging thing, it's the lying.

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">Because everyone knows politicians never lie.</font>