In our election, we vote for a candidate (or that candidate's representative). In Canada, they elect a party and let the party elect the "Prime Minister."

Ok, your turn.

They like to call ham "Canadian Bacon" when they know it's just ham. In the US, we are free to call it ham, not "American Bacon."

Our dollar is of more value.

We do not rely on hockey as our main source of entertainment.

We are in no way related to the French.

We do not rely on our big neighbor to protect us from the big bad world.

We have an actual military.

When our loser states tried to seceed, we quashed that right quick. Canada has been Quebec's bitch for years now and give them whatever they want in order to keep them.

This quote is a joke, right?:
"In a world darkened by ethnic conflicts that tear nations apart, Canada stands as a model of how people of different cultures can live and work together in peace, prosperity, and mutual respect."
-US President Bill Clinton in a 1995 House of Commons Address

According to a World Health Organization report, life expectancy at birth in Canada is 79.8 years versus 77.3 in the US.

The bad news is, they have to spend the extra 2 1/2 years living in Canada.

With all of this being said I think I would still rather move to Canada, but only if the weather was warm.

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Originally posted by Nimrod
In our election, we vote for a candidate (or that candidate's representative). In Canada, they elect a party and let the party elect the "Prime Minister."

Ok, your turn.

Is this really true? We don't have much say so who the candidate is. We, if lucky, get three people that could run the nation. The party places emphasis on the candidate and puts them in position to win.

In a round-about way, it's almost the same concept.

Originally posted by sppunk


Is this really true? We don't have much say so who the candidate is. We, if lucky, get three people that could run the nation. The party places emphasis on the candidate and puts them in position to win.

In a round-about way, it's almost the same concept. You must not like to vote in prmary elections.

hey nimrod. if you want to troll, there's a place called the "general board" where you can do that. this isn't the right place for you to post "lol canada is gay, lol mounties, lol quebec".

i'll let this thread go just in case you would like to make some serious and/or solid arguments, but if not, remember that posting on this board is a privilege and it will be taken away from you for excessive trolling.

cmon, we didn't get a politics forum to troll. keep this place clean and serious.

This is a political discussion about the differences between nations. This is completely on topic.

"They like to call ham "Canadian Bacon" when they know it's just ham. In the US, we are free to call it ham, not "American Bacon.""

If you're gonna make serious arguments and valid points, this would be a relevant thread. But no, you're being a moron and comparing Gen. MacArthur to Dudley Do-Right. This isn't a second board for you to troll on. Keep this bullshit of yours to the Gen board. If you have a serious issue you would like to debate, this is the forum, but it's definitely not a second home for your childish and ignorant comments.

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue
"They like to call ham "Canadian Bacon" when they know it's just ham. In the US, we are free to call it ham, not "American Bacon.""

If you're gonna make serious arguments and valid points, this would be a relevant thread. But no, you're being a moron and comparing Gen. MacArthur to Dudley Do-Right. This isn't a second board for you to troll on. Keep this bullshit of yours to the Gen board. If you have a serious issue you would like to debate, this is the forum, but it's definitely not a second home for your childish and ignorant comments. Since this is a US Election forum, I don't recognize your authority here.

No taxation without representation.

Go find a real mod to complain and I will be happy to listen. This thread is on topic.

Originally posted by Nimrod
You must not like to vote in prmary elections.

Oh, yeah. I could have voted for Hilary. I forgot.

quick, everyone pay attention to nimrod!

look at meee! look at me! youre not looking!
http://www.4daycruise.com/images/kids_pool.jpg

I don't see any problem with this thread and this was exactly what I figured would happen as soon as someone Fall Down Blue has a problem with started posting something he though he could bitch about.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Why do you put so much signifigance on military? Its not the only thing that makes a country.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
I don't see any problem with this thread and this was exactly what I figured would happen as soon as someone Fall Down Blue has a problem with started posting something he though he could bitch about.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Why do you put so much signifigance on military? Its not the only thing that makes a country. It's quite simple - without a strong military, everything else that makes the country can be gone in a heartbeat.

I have to hand it to Canada though. They really did outsmart us. The do have a strong military to protect them - ours.

Originally posted by sppunk


Oh, yeah. I could have voted for Hilary. I forgot. Hilary didn't run. Perhaps you mean Dean or Edwards.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
I don't see any problem with this thread and this was exactly what I figured would happen as soon as someone Fall Down Blue has a problem with started posting something he though he could bitch about.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Why do you put so much signifigance on military? Its not the only thing that makes a country.

shup up. I'd argue this if my girlfriend was the one who made the thread. this has nothing to do with nimrod. You two need to stop trying to stir shit up, and keep your nonsense on the gen board. I want to have serious debates on the political board without having to scroll through a fuckload of trolling. I thought this was the point of the board in the first place?

You want to troll, go to the "general board" and act like kids all you want.

Nimrod isn't an idiot. He started this thread to test the waters and see how far he can take his idiotic bullshit on this board.

Grow up for fuck's sake. We all know ignorant debates about any country needs to stay in the general board.

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue
We all know ignorant debates about any country needs to stay in the general board. Uh, since most debates on Netphoria are ignorant debates, debates about countries should be on this board.

I am not surprised none of the other mods have said anything even though they have posted in other threads.

Please go back to Canadian Election Board '03.

Originally posted by Nimrod
They like to call ham "Canadian Bacon" when they know it's just ham. In the US, we are free to call it ham, not "American Bacon."

Oh, how misinformed you are on this whole issue. Let me explain it to you.

Canadians call ham "ham." Only Americans use the term "Canadian bacon," which refers to what Canadians call "peameal bacon." "Canadian bacon" has nothing to do with ham, nor is it used by any Canadians.

Now go eat some Freedom fries.

:)

Originally posted by smiling politely


Oh, how misinformed you are on this whole issue. Let me explain it to you.

Canadians call ham "ham." Only Americans use the term "Canadian bacon," which refers to what Canadians call "peameal bacon." "Canadian bacon" has nothing to do with ham, nor is it used by any Canadians.

Now go eat some Freedom fries.

:) Ok, thank you. One misconception cleared up.

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue




You want to troll, go to the "general board" and act like kids all you want.


Sorry but I do not think you know the definition of trolling. One would think you would at least have a clue but I guess not.


I also think America is better than Canada in regards of Climate. We have much better weather here than in Canada.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted



Sorry but I do not think you know the definition of trolling. One would think you would at least have a clue but I guess not.


I also think America is better than Canada in regards of Climate. We have much better weather here than in Canada. That is true.

Also with the exception of hockey, biathalon and the sport where you sweep a broom on the ice, we also have better athletes.

in the US, tax dollars are put towards the biggest army in the world which is keeping the world safe from terrorism.

in canada, tax dollars are put towards fucking health care. what a bunch of losers. don't they realize they also need the biggest army in the world even though there is need for one?

also, in the US you get to vote candidates but in canada your vote actually counts as much as everyone elses and the majority wins and there are more than two major parties. backwards, i say.

Not to mention I've seen the US beat Canada at curling events!

Originally posted by thrillhouse
in the US, tax dollars are put towards the biggest army in the world which is keeping the world safe from terrorism.

in canada, tax dollars are put towards fucking health care. what a bunch of losers. don't they realize they also need the biggest army in the world even though there is need for one?

also, in the US you get to vote candidates but in canada your vote actually counts as much as everyone elses and the majority wins and there are more than two major parties. backwards, i say.


Ummmm in Canada I don't think their voting system is any better than the American. They are both pretty much representative democracies. One just happens to be socialist and one happens to be capitalist. Americans do pay a lower tax percentage as well don't we?

Originally posted by thrillhouse
in the US, tax dollars are put towards the biggest army in the world which is keeping the world safe from terrorism.

in canada, tax dollars are put towards fucking health care. what a bunch of losers. don't they realize they also need the biggest army in the world even though there is need for one?

also, in the US you get to vote candidates but in canada your vote actually counts as much as everyone elses and the majority wins and there are more than two major parties. backwards, i say. Canadians are able to put their money into things like health care because the US military does the protecting for them.

Also, in the US, healthcare (other than for seniors or the disabled) is convered by Corporations, for the most part, as a Capitalist society must give it's citizens what they want or they would just go to another employer.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted



Ummmm in Canada I don't think their voting system is any better than the American. They are both pretty much representative democracies. One just happens to be socialist and one happens to be capitalist. Americans do pay a lower tax percentage as well don't we? Much lower.

Originally posted by Nimrod
Hilary didn't run. Perhaps you mean Dean or Edwards.

My point exactly.

Normal people aren't free to run. The parties pick and choose who they like and who they put money into.

I'm sorry, can someone clarify who the U.S. military is protecting the Canadians from?

Do you fucks seriously think that the U.S. army is what's keeping a world power from invading North America? Are you that fucking retarded?

If you seriously believe an army is what pushes away an invasion in this century, would you mind explaining why hundreds of countries with jokes of a military aren't being invaded this very instant?

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue


If you seriously believe an army is what pushes away an invasion in this century, would you mind explaining why hundreds of countries with jokes of a military aren't being invaded this very instant?


Like Israel? How about Kuwait? Places aren't invaded as often these days because of the United Nations, which only has power because nations like America are members, nations with real military force.

Originally posted by sppunk


My point exactly.

Normal people aren't free to run. The parties pick and choose who they like and who they put money into. Huh? What does that have to do with Hillary? She could have run if she so chose.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted



Like Israel? How about Kuwait? Places aren't invaded as often these days because of the United Nations, which only has power because nations like America are members, nations with real military force.

The UN is almost powerless now. It's pointless. The EU will take over the "world government" and the U.S. will be left with Israel because we won't work well with those joint nations.

Originally posted by sppunk


The UN is almost powerless now. It's pointless. The EU will take over the "world government" and the U.S. will be left with Israel because we won't work well with those joint nations. This is true. The EU will be like the old Communist Bloc as far as UN power, however, there won't be joint opposition like the West used to have. I expect the US to withdraw from the UN within 10 years.

Originally posted by Nimrod
I expect the US to withdraw from the UN within 10 years.
That'll never happen.

Originally posted by sppunk


The UN is almost powerless now. It's pointless. The EU will take over the "world government" and the U.S. will be left with Israel because we won't work well with those joint nations.


You may say its pointless but I still think its a factor in helping create a stable enviroment among nations. The EU does so as well....but their power is still based on the military/monetary assets of the countries involved.

Maybe if your military wasn't so ridiculously over-funded, you could fund education and health care for the citizens of your country. Even if the US's military budget was cut in half, you'd still be more powerful than the combined militaries of your seven biggest enemies combined. I guess anyone so hated by the rest of the world MUST need a huge military budget.

Originally posted by spava
Maybe if your military wasn't so ridiculously over-funded, you could fund education and health care for the citizens of your country. Even if the US's military budget was cut in half, you'd still be more powerful than the combined militaries of your seven biggest enemies combined. I guess anyone so hated by the rest of the world MUST need a huge military budget.
The federal government shouldn't be funding education at all. That should be left to the states and municipalities.

I don't think the "hate" people have for the US is any different than the "hate" people have for successful sports franchises. People hate the Yankees because they win, and they're the most successful. It's hate of the powerful, hate of the successful.

:eek:

I don't see how you think your country is so successful and better than everyone else nimrod. i mean seriously... you got parts of the U.S. that are as violent as kingston, jamaica...

you got a healthcare system that will refuse it's own citizens without proper insurance...

you got kids who WANT to learn but simply can't because their parents are immigrants who can't afford sending them to school..

you got the highest level of gun crime than anywhere else in the world...

half your country owns a gun...

i simply don't understand why you like the states so much. I mean sure, there are some nice things about it, but it's fucking shit in terms of crime, laws, and culture.

i have a strong feeling that you haven't travelled the world much..... would that be a correct statement?

Originally posted by Nimrod

The federal government shouldn't be funding education at all. That should be left to the states and municipalities.

I don't think the "hate" people have for the US is any different than the "hate" people have for successful sports franchises. People hate the Yankees because they win, and they're the most successful. It's hate of the powerful, hate of the successful.

You call having no health care SUCCESSFUL? You call being the fattest country in the world SUCCESSFUL? You call having the largest economic gap between the richest people and the poorest people SUCCESSFUL?

Damn.

Originally posted by spava


You call having no health care SUCCESSFUL? You call being the fattest country in the world SUCCESSFUL? You call having the largest economic gap between the richest people and the poorest people SUCCESSFUL?

Damn.

Originally posted by Nimrod
In our election, we vote for a candidate (or that candidate's representative). In Canada, they elect a party and let the party elect the "Prime Minister."

Ok, your turn.

Uhhhh...well, we know who the candidate is when we're voting, so its not as though we're just electing the party. People are loyal to their party, just as people are loyal to voting democrat or republican. But we still vote for the candidate, or the prime minister...like, for instance, I hate Paul Martin and I won't be voting for him next election... and if you are really passionate about a particular party, you can always support the party and join, and vote for the particular party leader when they're electing one.

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue
I don't see how you think your country is so successful and better than everyone else nimrod. i mean seriously... you got parts of the U.S. that are as violent as kingston, jamaica...

you got a healthcare system that will refuse it's own citizens without proper insurance...

you got kids who WANT to learn but simply can't because their parents are immigrants who can't afford sending them to school..

you got the highest level of gun crime than anywhere else in the world...

half your country owns a gun...

i simply don't understand why you like the states so much. I mean sure, there are some nice things about it, but it's fucking shit in terms of crime, laws, and culture.

i have a strong feeling that you haven't travelled the world much..... would that be a correct statement? The healthcare industry doesn't turn anyone away. Shit, illegal immigrants get free health care. You are incorrect about that.

School is free. We have public schools. I don't know what immigrants you are talking about. School is free. Books are free. Buy a pencil.

Gun crime is rising fast in the UK. We were also the first to have blues music, and then that spread.

I think more people should own guns. Our legislature is trying to make it so that only criminals own them.

I've only been to 4 countries. I've had a lot of opportunities to go to others, but for the most part I'm not interested in most of them. I would like to see Scandanavia (I almost spent a week in Copenhagen, but the company cancelled the conference), Greece, Ireland, and Australia.

i wonder if nimrod is just over-patriotic or serious when he thinks the U.S. is the best. I mean, I love canada, but i don't know if i'd go and say it's THE BEST COUNTRY in the world. I love switzerland, i love belgium, i love england, i love jamaica... i love alot of countries and i appreciate different things about every single one.

In Canada, hamburgers eat people!

Originally posted by Nimrod
The healthcare industry doesn't turn anyone away. Shit, illegal immigrants get free health care. You are incorrect about that.

School is free. We have public schools. I don't know what immigrants you are talking about. School is free. Books are free. Buy a pencil.

Gun crime is rising fast in the UK. We were also the first to have blues music, and then that spread.

I think more people should own guns. Our legislature is trying to make it so that only criminals own them.

I've only been to 4 countries. I've had a lot of opportunities to go to others, but for the most part I'm not interested in most of them. I would like to see Scandanavia (I almost spent a week in Copenhagen, but the company cancelled the conference), Greece, Ireland, and Australia.

Im not talking about public school, i'm talking about decent universities. They are not affordable for anyone that isn't middle class *not considering grants and scholarships, because those aren't promised to anybody*.... I do agree gun crimes are raising in the U.K, but shit, not nearly comparable to the U.S. Either way, I was comparing it to Canada's gun crimes... which is pretty much non existant... apart from toronto and van city.

But seriously, which countries have you visited and which qualities would you say you appreciated the most about them? in comparison to the U.S. that is...

Originally posted by Nimrod
They really did outsmart us. The do have a strong military to protect them - ours.

We don't need to have an incredibly strong military. We're not invading other nations for no reason...and the rest of the world doesn't hate us, so there is really no reason for anyone to attack us. Besides, according to that chart that you posted...the US has like, 10 times as many people living in their country...so of course it would make sense that the US has 10 times the amount of people in the military. Personally, I would rather my tax dollars didn't support some war that didn't even have to happen. I would rather my tax dollars be put back into the community/social programs/health care/education/helping the citizens of the country.

Originally posted by spava


You call having no health care SUCCESSFUL? You call being the fattest country in the world SUCCESSFUL? You call having the largest economic gap between the richest people and the poorest people SUCCESSFUL?

Damn. We do have health care. It's just got taxed out of us and run by beurocrats like yours is.

People are fat because we're so successful, we have shitloads of food. You know those African countries with starving people? That is an example of unsuccessful countries.

We have large economic gaps due to many reasons. One reason is rampant immigration. Do rich, successful people often move here? No. We need to fix that. Our country is so awesome, we have too many people sneaking in. I don't think Canada has a lot of illegal immigration.

Originally posted by Nimrod
People are fat because we're so successful, we have shitloads of food.

Nah, people are fat because they eat so much fast food and all that shitty stuff, because they are either too lazy to make their own food, or they are too uneducated about nutrition and they can't make healthy choices.

Originally posted by Nimrod

We have large economic gaps due to many reasons.


Another reason why you have such large economic gaps is because America is ruled by huge corporations that have only a few high paying positions, and millions of low-paying positions. People are often overworked and underpaid and there are only a few people at the top who reap the benefits of this. The economic gap is only getting bigger with the increase of corporate mergers and corporate rule.

Originally posted by sarasvati


Nah, people are fat because they eat so much fast food and all that shitty stuff, because they are either too lazy to make their own food, or they are too uneducated about nutrition and they can't make healthy choices. I disagree. People are fat because they overeat. It's really that simple. Don't think Canada isn't growing in size either, because Canada is a pretty successful nation, too. Just not as successful.

Originally posted by sarasvati


Another reason why you have such large economic gaps is because America is ruled by huge corporations that have only a few high paying positions, and millions of low-paying positions. People are often overworked and underpaid and there are only a few people at the top who reap the benefits of this. The economic gap is only getting bigger with the increase of corporate mergers and corporate rule. So a communist society where we all get the same would be ideal then?

Originally posted by Nimrod
I disagree. People are fat because they overeat. It's really that simple. Don't think Canada isn't growing in size either, because Canada is a pretty successful nation, too. Just not as successful.

Canada is getting fatter because we basically have the same fast food places that the US has. There are lots of nations in the world that are successful. But once you start putting McDonalds and all that crap there, the nation starts to get fatter and fatter. I see what you're saying...people do get fat from overeating...but, it seems as though an American lifestyle (and Canadian) of just eating fast food all the time is whats making people not only fat, but have heart problems, cancer, diabetes, and an assortment of illnesses.

Originally posted by Nimrod
So a communist society where we all get the same would be ideal then?

I'm not saying communism is the way to go. But, the capitalist system is extremely flawed. Its a shame that the only alternative we have to capitalism is communism, which doesn't work out. Because the fact that we basically have to claw our way to the top and push other people down to get anywhere in life...well, it really sucks. Unless, of course, you're someone thats *******d in the handful of people who are at the top.

With that said, I don't have any suggestions of an alternative to capitalism. I think we can make capitalism work for the masses better than it is, though.

Actually the economic gap in America is so large because of a few things.

1) We are such a big country, size and population wise.
2) We are one of the richest countries in the world with lots of very rich people. (Not much of a economic gap in Somalia eh? Everyone is fucking poor)
3) Its a capitalist society where to even be middle class you have to have some drive and motivation. Many people simply live poor instead of work hard. Its human nature and you have lazy poor people everywhere but in capitalism it makes the poor even more poor and the gap more wide.

There are more factors as well such as current stock market, unemployment etc. Its not quite so simple as to say America is ruled by corporate assholes while the rest of the uneducated squander to barely survive in their miserable little country. I'm a 21 year old Male with no college education. I have a decent job now and I'm looking to find another. I took me 3 days to get two interviews at decent jobs. I live comfortably. Liz and I have a big apartment, we took a great vacation, we eat out a lot, blah blah. But I'm just your average person and on paper I probably look "poor" but since I'm in America I'm still living a damn good life.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
We are in no way related to the French.


except for them saving our asses in the revolutionary war.

Originally posted by tootsie



except for them saving our asses in the revolutionary war.

I was talking about now.

I think the gun commentary is pretty good. I'm pretty sure Canadians own as many guns per person in the U.S. (i'm talkin ratios here) but we just aren't killing each other. As well there isn't the population base to compare i'll give you that. I think a lot of America is simply immersed in a culture of fear. That they have to protect themselves from the ever-looming unknown. I also am assuming i'm going to get ransacked on my commentary anyway.

But just one more thing, why do some americans (not all, because i like and hate as many americans as i do canadians) have to consistently try and make it a point that they are better than Canadians? I'll never really understand it.

But um, much love, carry on. And i'm pretty sure the Prime Minister elect has to run in his disctrict to get elected as well, I could be wrong here too.

ANYway, have at it. :)

Originally posted by Varien

But just one more thing, why do some americans (not all, because i like and hate as many americans as i do canadians) have to consistently try and make it a point that they are better than Canadians? I'll never really understand it.I agree with much of your other comments.

I will address this one: it's because this board has way too many Canadians, and they are under the misconception that not only is America evil, but that Canada is better than it.

Besides, although this thread was considered at first to be a "troll" it has way more responses than any other thread on this board. Obviously, this is a hot button issue.

Originally posted by Nimrod
I agree with much of your other comments.

I will address this one: it's because this board has way too many Canadians, and they are under the misconception that not only is America evil, but that Canada is better than it.

Alright fair enough.

I don't consider America evil, I do think some of their decisions are misguided, but i really don't understand the "bigger dick" contest that seems to come up between our two countries. We each have our own faults and advantages. There are some things that I wish Canada had like a SLIGHTLY larger military budget because simple things like fucking 40 year old SeaKings crashing into the fucking atlantic make me mad. But free healthcare and not a horrendous debt make me happy. A little from both would be nice, but the comparisons really need to stop, it doesn't accomplish anything.

Originally posted by Nimrod


Besides, although this thread was considered at first to be a "troll" it has way more responses than any other thread on this board. Obviously, this is a hot button issue.

Was this added? haha.

I guess being a Canadian i just wanted to add in my two cents to all the other possible Canadian bashing of Americans...or vice versa.

Originally posted by Varien


But um, much love, carry on. And i'm pretty sure the Prime Minister elect has to run in his disctrict to get elected as well, I could be wrong here too.



That's true, but it's a joke when you think about it. If you're the running leader of a party, you usually get voted in with over 90% in your district!

i have had nothing but good experiences in canada. everybody was really nice.
<3 canada.

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue


That's true, but it's a joke when you think about it. If you're the running leader of a party, you usually get voted in with over 90% in your district!

Oh yeah i know haha. It is a bit of a joke run BUT, it has happened in Newfoundland i'm pretty sure, since it usually goes back and forth between Liberals and Tories within decade spans, sometimes even a party leader can get blown out, i'm pretty sure it has at least happened once here. I can assume it may have in other places, but yeah it is pretty funny. We have had the same NDP leader for the past 20-30 years, he can't lose haha.

Would it be alright if i posted an offtopic thread about the Public Service Strike that's on going here getting into the 4th week now, they've legislated em back, but i think the unions have gone back to the table with one more offer just to save face. Go out with one more shot before they start gettin arrested :p
I mainly would like to just so i know what the politically minded think about it all, i'll post some links to relating stories.

Originally posted by Varien


Oh yeah i know haha. It is a bit of a joke run BUT, it has happened in Newfoundland i'm pretty sure, since it usually goes back and forth between Liberals and Tories within decade spans, sometimes even a party leader can get blown out, i'm pretty sure it has at least happened once here. I can assume it may have in other places, but yeah it is pretty funny. We have had the same NDP leader for the past 20-30 years, he can't lose haha.

Would it be alright if i posted an offtopic thread about the Public Service Strike that's on going here getting into the 4th week now, they've legislated em back, but i think the unions have gone back to the table with one more offer just to save face. Go out with one more shot before they start gettin arrested :p
I mainly would like to just so i know what the politically minded think about it all, i'll post some links to relating stories. You should post it on the General Board since it only relates to Canada. Feel free to post a link in this thread.

Originally posted by Nimrod
You should post it on the General Board since it only relates to Canada. Feel free to post a link in this thread.

But this thread was the same thing haha. I wanna know what the mods say :cool:

Originally posted by Varien


But this thread was the same thing haha. I wanna know what the mods say :cool: This thread started as American Elections vs. Canadian elections. This is the US Election forum.

Thus, relevant.

Originally posted by Nimrod
This thread started as American Elections vs. Canadian elections. This is the US Election forum.

Thus, relevant.

"ITT, we discuss how much better the United States is than Canada":erm

Originally posted by Varien


"ITT, we discuss how much better the United States is than Canada":erm Title vs. content.

This is BS, this in no way has anything to do with the 04 elections. So much for modding the place.

Originally posted by Sehki
That implies that the repliers determine the topic, which isn't the case.

Originally posted by Future Boy
This is BS, this in no way has anything to do with the 04 elections. So much for modding the place.


<img src="http://www.cliffroberts.com/Images/Doctor%20and%20Patient.jpg">

That's ok Future Boy. Once youre tears stop flowing, everything will be fine.

Originally posted by Nimrod
I don't think the "hate" people have for the US is any different than the "hate" people have for successful sports franchises. People hate the Yankees because they win, and they're the most successful. It's hate of the powerful, hate of the successful.
this is the product of hate:
http://www.arachnoid.com/levels/wtc.jpg

That would be akin to people hating the yankees, but actually going to the player's homes and gunning them down.

I'm hope you understand the muslim extremists also hate Canada and just about every other civilized non-islamic country.

About all your stupid bullshit comparing militaries:
Considering we are a country of 1/10 the population and with no immediate threat from outside nations, I fail to see why we should waste our resources on military spending. The military we have is slightly underfunded, but there is no need blow the public's money. Why would we waste our time trying to be a world power when we are too small? On an average troop to troop comparision, Canadian soldiers have higher level of training and equipment. Yes you have lots of highly trained specialists and special forces, but the bulk of your force isn't that great. This is because your military spends so much on stupid programs that go nowhere, whereas ours concentrates what little it has on training.
As for the US "protecting Canada", I fail to see how this occurs in reality. The fact of the matter is that the US, despite being our neighbour and allie, has never actually helped Canada in any military matter and I doubt that they would do so in the future except for politically motivated reasons. The only agreements between the American and Canadian militaries are for shared power and responsibility. Ever heard of Norad? Maybe you should actually bring up some sources and show some evidence instead of spouting bullshit. This supposed to be a quality board, where you can't get away with dumb shit like this thread.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted
I'm hope you understand the muslim extremists also hate Canada and just about every other civilized non-islamic country.
Funny, I don't seem to remember a plane flying into the CN tower.

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue
That's ok Future Boy. Once youre tears stop flowing, everything will be fine.

Fuck you you sloppy bitch, do what you're supposed to do and move this shit. Gun shy mods, fuck. If it was anyone other than Nimrod this shit wouldnt be here.

And that picture makes no sense either, I'm not at the damn doctor.


Edit: Nevermind, I just found out you're nothing but stars and a custom title.

Originally posted by machinaddict

Funny, I don't seem to remember a plane flying into the CN tower.

Just a quote or two from Bin Laden and also some quotes from newspaper articles.


“We with God’s help call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan’s U.S. troops and the devil’s supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.”

You are considered "the devil's supporter" and an ally of the United States.

"Muslim scholars have issued a fatwa [a religious order] against any American who pays taxes to his government. He is our target because he is helping the American war machine against the Muslim nation."

Also I think that Canada pays some money to the US. You do help support our country.

Not to mention this quote from a newspaper:

"At one time, bin Laden regularly issued video messages calling on devout Muslims to kill Christians and Jews. "

Isn't Canada mostly Christian? I'm sure you have a few jews roaming around too...

And not to mention:

"Countries such as the U.S. and Canada have already spent billions of dollars trying to find bin Laden. Only two months ago, the last of a fleet of Canadian warships left the Arabian Sea, where they led a naval battle group that spent two years churning in circles looking for bin Laden and his followers."

I don't think Bin Laden enjoys the fact that Canada is helping the US search for him.

So yes, Bin Laden does hate Canada along with other muslim extremists. They hate Christians and non-muslim countries. I don't like it anymore than you do but its kinda how muslim extremists think.

Originally posted by Future Boy
And that picture makes no sense either, I'm not at the damn doctor.


Edit: Nevermind, I just found out you're nothing but stars and a custom title.

you're pretty slow aren't ya? Did you go to a special school as a kid?

Why does Nimrod feel the burning need to prove his point about how great the USA is by pointing and laughing at another country?
If you truly don't give a shit about Canada , don't care enough to make a thread about it.

You don't live here in order to get an accurate idea of what its like to be from here - if this thread was made by a person who has lived for a significant amount of time in both countries i would be more interested in this off topic.i don't pretend to understand the United States because i don't live there .

You have your Elections forum to spout your God Bless the USA rhetoric and that should be enough so discuss Elections .

Originally posted by Fall Down Blue
you're pretty slow aren't ya? Did you go to a special school as a kid?

Nope, I'm just another US public school tragedy.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted


Also I think that Canada pays some money to the US. You do help support our country.
oh I'm sorry, I thought you already made your point about how Canada is "protected" by the United States' military when we actually aren't. Well guess what jackass, we don't pay you for protection and we don't give you any money at all. We are simply a political ally, and not a very stable one because we didn't support your war in Iraq.
Get your fucking facts straight.

Originally posted by I_was_aborted

"Countries such as the U.S. and ----->>>Canada<<<----- have already spent billions of dollars trying to find bin Laden. Only two months ago, the last of a fleet of Canadian warships left the Arabian Sea, where they led a naval battle group that spent two years churning in circles looking for bin Laden and his followers."

I don't think Bin Laden enjoys the fact that Canada is helping the US search for him.




I guess you didn't read everything and try to understand my point. Its not a military aspect, its a money and ally aspect. You are helping try to catch Bin Laden. You have been doing this for some time now. You also do business with America, in turn helping our country. You are also a political ally. If you think Bin Laden and his supporters like Canada and are not angered by its ties with America you are a bigger fucking moron than I expected. I wasn't talking about you funding our military.

Also I guess you missed the whole, "At one time, bin Laden regularly issued video messages calling on devout Muslims to kill Christians and Jews. " I'm pretty sure Canada is largly Christian. You may disagree with the war but please do not act like Canada has done nothing to anger Bin Laden, his supporters and other muslim extremists.

Originally posted by Nimrod
According to a World Health Organization report, life expectancy at birth in Canada is 79.8 years versus 77.3 in the US.

The bad news is, they have to spend the extra 2 1/2 years living in Canada.

:rofl: