View Full Version : What was the bigger breakthrough- Today or BWBW?


the_marked
09-03-2003, 12:26 AM
Even though "Today" pushed the Pumpkins into mainstream, I think that BWBW had a larger impact on the radio audience. What was the Pumpkins biggest radio hit? (BTW around here they play "Disarm" everyday...and "Eye" once in a while).

peabody
09-03-2003, 01:17 AM
1979 or Tonight Tonight.

Ensoul
09-03-2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by peabody
Tonight Tonight.

Diamond Dream
09-03-2003, 03:08 AM
A lot of people discovered the Pumpkins with BWBW.

But I imagine that Disarm had a big impact too back in the day.

sweetanthony
09-03-2003, 03:38 AM
1979 was the biggest radio hit for sure... even though 94.9 here in San Diego plays Rocket all the time!

Transformer
09-03-2003, 06:55 AM
Yeah, i'd say Bullet for the mainstream

What about for the grunge scene?

Porcelina Ruby
09-03-2003, 07:47 AM
zero on the simpsons!!
no, I think today to make them an alternative known band, bwb to make the a huge mainstream band

smashingjj
09-03-2003, 08:18 AM
the pumpkins never had a hit here in Holland. I believe the song that reached the highest on the charts was 1979, it must have stuck around #45 on the top 50.

Porcelina Ruby
09-03-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by smashingjj
the pumpkins never had a hit here in Holland. I believe the song that reached the highest on the charts was 1979, it must have stuck around #45 on the top 50.

I'm flamisch, andf I wasn't around that time, but sp got a lot of air time on tmf with ava adore, and afterwards, and they are still monthly mentioned in humo, so I think they must ve had a hit

Sean Casey
09-03-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by the_marked
Even though "Today" pushed the Pumpkins into mainstream

Yes, hence it had the bigger effect on their career, you dense shit.

MstrGhost
09-03-2003, 11:50 AM
In Portugal, BWBW, today wasn't that well known for everybody. In my small town everyone got mcis because of it (in here singles are rare).

alisonmonster
09-03-2003, 12:58 PM
No one in my school seemed to like Sp- so everyone totally bashed "Today" even though it was the song i first heard from SP. So today wins- BWBW just cemented it.

peabody
09-03-2003, 01:04 PM
i always thought Today was sung by a girl. :o

Dead
09-03-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Sean Casey
Yes, hence it had the bigger effect on their career, you dense shit.
That's what I was thinking, minus the dense shit. But I like that part too. :cool:

guz
09-03-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Sean Casey
Yes, hence it had the bigger effect on their career, you dense shit.

frenchy
09-03-2003, 02:14 PM
BWBW in France

Rider
09-03-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Transformer
Yeah, i'd say Bullet for the mainstream

What about for the grunge scene?

Drown, everyone bought the singles soundtrack who was into "grunge". I think that soundtrack had alot to do with the sucess of SD.

CrabbMan
09-03-2003, 07:47 PM
Compare the record sales from Gish to Siamese Dream to MCIS and you'll see that Today was obviously the breakthrough.

the_marked
09-03-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Sean Casey


Yes, hence it had the bigger effect on their career, you dense shit.

:(

What I meant was even though Today pushed them into mainstream, BWBW was "the" Pumpkin hit. Anyone I talk to who isn't too familiar with the Pumpkins always mentions the "rat in a cage' song. Even though Today pushed them into mainstream, BWBW solidified them as one of the best bands of the 90s.

Reyngel
09-03-2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by the_marked

BWBW solidified them as one of the best bands of the 90s.

Which doesn't say a whole lot about what the Pumpkins were up against, since Bullet isn't even that great of a song.

Rider
09-03-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Reyngel


Which doesn't say a whole lot about what the Pumpkins were up against, since Bullet isn't even that great of a song.

I remeber the first time I heard BWBW on the radio all I heard was the last half of the song and I hated it.

Axis of Action
09-04-2003, 01:06 AM
Today was the breakthrough. It established them. BWBW built on it.

1979 is the song they're going to be remembered the most for. It's on constantly.

SP33
09-04-2003, 02:00 AM
I agree with Sehki...

But I think they'll be more remembered for Tonight, Tonight.

smashingjj
09-04-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by peabody
i always thought Today was sung by a girl. :o and because of this thread you found out it was actually a SP song, thus sung by a man?

pale blue eyes
09-04-2003, 08:42 AM
Today. They played that song to death and as Sean Casey said they went from being relatively unknown to exploding into the mainstream. No matter how overplayed BWBW was, Today was still the bigger breakthrough.

peabody
09-04-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by smashingjj
and because of this thread you found out it was actually a SP song, thus sung by a man?

yeah, this thread really cleared some stuff up.

James
09-04-2003, 02:23 PM
i know personally, i was too young to really be paying attention to the pumpkins when they released siamese dream. i guess i had heard today and cherub rock before, but had never really known who it was by.

it was the release of bullet that, i think, got the most airplay on mtv and radio. by that time i was a little bit older and wanted to be more open to finding my own music, not just stuff my parents listened to. MCIS was the first cd I ever owned. i was a mellon collie baby.

so in terms of my age group (for those who now are 20/21) i would say bullet was a bigger breakthrough.

BMA
09-04-2003, 06:07 PM
I think the song they'll be most remembered for is 1979.

The video they'll be most remembered for is Tonight Tonight.

And the video that I jack off too is Try, Try, Try.

akaneironokaze
09-05-2003, 12:18 AM
i have a friend that overplayed BWBW in his computer
and he was obsessed with it
he used to write the lyrics in the school desks, walls, bathroom, his BED!,,, and i was even afraid he might do a tatto saying ''The World Is A Vampire'' in his arm