View Full Version : name me a guitar player with more brutal solos than billy...


tristessa
07-21-2003, 04:48 PM
on songs like quiet and especially pissant i dont think solos come as fukking brutal as that. there is faster ones sure but i doubt there as brutal. jimi hendrix was brutal but i think billy takes the cake. billy can also shred like a motherfukker. check out the i am one demo from billy-corgan.net. i knew billy had some of that 80's shredding in him could and he could play just straight fast runs, but that wow-ed me.

man and jimmy's drumming is just an adrenaline rush on gish. if you mainly follow the drumming on most of the heavier, faster songs on gish especially bury me and siva i think theres no way that drumming could have been played withouit a constant surge of adrenaline running through jimmy's blood. its awesome you can just feel it. i know everyone probably knows this stuff but i just thought to bring it all to ettention cause these things dont always get enough credit. billy and jimmy are fukking amazing musicians.

Diamond Dream
07-21-2003, 04:50 PM
Slash

tristessa
07-21-2003, 04:57 PM
uhhh... slash never came off to me as a brutal guitar player. slash's solos were very clean and technically precise.and he was more of a cock rocker and seemed to devote half of his attention during his solos to his pose. but his solos were very precise and clean and were never really chaotic. i could think of a dimebag darrel or jimy hendrix to match billys brutality but, i think billy takes the cake

Gpub
07-21-2003, 05:26 PM
Jackie White

Liquid-J
07-21-2003, 05:32 PM
Michelle Branch. She sounds kind of like Santana...

Diamond Dream
07-21-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by tristessa
uhhh... slash never came off to me as a brutal guitar player. slash's solos were very clean and technically precise.and he was more of a cock rocker and seemed to devote half of his attention during his solos to his pose. but his solos were very precise and clean and were never really chaotic. i could think of a dimebag darrel or jimy hendrix to match billys brutality but, i think billy takes the cake

oh tristessa... I just said Slash for fun because I liked GNR a lot back in grade school.

Billy does great solos! The original I Am One is awesome.

pumpkinxyu
07-21-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Liquid-J
Michelle Branch. She sounds kind of like Santana...

Michelle Branch's solos only sound brutal because she's got Kenny "What's-With-My-Fashion-Choices?" Aronoff backing her up. i only kid. Kenny's a great drummer. and Billy is hands down the most brutal guitarist. sometimes i'm expecting him to rip his guitar neck off before he finishes his solo. rock power x 8 billion.

Nothing/everything
07-21-2003, 05:47 PM
this topic's a joke, right?

pumpkinxyu
07-21-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Nothing/everything
this topic's a joke, right?

no, it's not. billy's a great guitarist. and if you don't keep your voice down, marlon will come in and cause a big stink.

DeviousJ
07-21-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by pumpkinxyu


Michelle Branch's solos only sound brutal because she's got Kenny "What's-With-My-Fashion-Choices?" Aronoff backing her up. i only kid. Kenny's a great drummer. and Billy is hands down the most brutal guitarist. sometimes i'm expecting him to rip his guitar neck off before he finishes his solo. rock power x 8 billion.

ROKK THe FUKK ON!! :rockon: :rockon:

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Gpub
07-21-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by pumpkinxyu


no, it's not. billy's a great guitarist. and if you don't keep your voice down, marlon will come in and cause a big stink.


Fuck that niccca




G.

Cassius
07-21-2003, 07:38 PM
If im getting your meaning on brutal....

Jimmy Page, possibly more brutal definetly a contender.

Brian May, similarily memorable with succinct rocking solos, maybe not really brutal.

Kim Thayil, another contender, i feel his solos can sound very chaotic.

Josh Homme, damn a real contender, very clean playing ( not tone obviously ) and musical, yet... brutal.



I was just thinking today after listening to some old metallica how memorable Corgans soloing is in comparison with kirk ( mostly ), the cherub rock solo and the solo on 'I of the mourning' are just tops ( sure iv missed tons out ). Sometimes i feel he leaves behind musicality and concentrates on dynamics because the notes feel kind of random, still sounds good though because he plays it with passion, great guitarist in my opinion.

paranoid
07-21-2003, 07:52 PM
yuo guys have never heard zack wylde play.. i don't really care for his music but his solos are BRUTAL.

Jimmy Page is hella more brutal.

sawdust restaurants
07-21-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by DeviousJ
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That picture would be so much funnier if the gain were turned up to 11.

MstrGhost
07-21-2003, 11:30 PM
kirk hammet

Injektilo
07-22-2003, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by sawdust restaurants


That picture would be so much funnier if the gain were turned up to 11.

damn. beat me to it.

DeviousJ
07-22-2003, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by sawdust restaurants


That picture would be so much funnier if the gain were turned up to 11.

didn't have a Soldano handy, but photoshop may prevail

smashingjj
07-22-2003, 07:43 AM
yr average metal band

StillBecomingApart
07-22-2003, 08:24 AM
http://www.iofthemourning.com/img/studio13.jpg

The Yelephant
07-22-2003, 08:38 AM
JIMI HENDRIX

Desi
07-22-2003, 08:49 AM
wow, this topic is dumb.

liquid slide
07-22-2003, 09:12 AM
If you consider Billy's statement that he wanted his solos to sound like they came from another planet, Jonny Greenwood kicks the shit out of him.
np:Go to sleep:Glastonbury 2003

Ugly
07-22-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by pumpkinxyu

sometimes i'm expecting him to rip his guitar neck off before he finishes his solo. rock power x 8 billion.

That is one of the cooler and funnier geek statements I've seen on here. I totally agree too. I'm gonna steal that.

BeautifulLoser
07-22-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by sawdust restaurants


That picture would be so much funnier if the gain were turned up to 11.

Gah, i was just about to say that. :p

alisonmonster
07-24-2003, 01:02 PM
Angus Young from AC/DC is my fav. guitarist but Billy is a very very close second. Silverfuck and xyu -my favorite live .:)

Bruce Mcougllah
07-24-2003, 09:37 PM
Robert Fripp. I bet no one on this board knows who the fuck he is. Yeah im elitest.

Injektilo
07-24-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Bruce Mcougllah
Robert Fripp. I bet no one on this board knows who the fuck he is. Yeah im elitest.

you're right, nobody on here has ever heard of robert fripp. Cause King Crimson are like the most underground band evar.

Tyler
07-24-2003, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by tristessa
check out the i am one demo from billy-corgan.net.

Where in the site do I find that? I checked in the MP3's section and didn't find it.

SomaPhreak
07-25-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Injektilo


you're right, nobody on here has ever heard of robert fripp. Cause King Crimson are like the most underground band evar.

zing

:D

Nimrod's Son
07-25-2003, 04:55 AM
I won't repeat what's already been mentioned, but I will add Mike McCready.

Cassius
07-25-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by meladoriemagpie


Where in the site do I find that? I checked in the MP3's section and didn't find it.

Its in the videos section. Vh1 before they were famous clip or something. I think it was footage of his first band and billy was shredding madly on guitar.

NegativeSleep
07-25-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by SomaPhreak
zing

:D

LORD OF THE ZING!!!!

bonsor
07-25-2003, 12:15 PM
i must agree that billy solos like none other, though in a lot of ways, he has a very immature style, which is not to say that it's bad, just youthful. some of the stuff i've seen and heard on live stuff from 91-96 is just fucking unbelievable. intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge FRANTICLY EXPLOSIVE GUITAR WAILING chorus outro.

his soloing style is very arhythmic. reminds me of the guy in Ten Years After (forget his name) who solo'd on the same principle. Cramming as many notes as possible into every bar of the solo, regardless of actually relevence to the tempo of the song.

I think everyone who listens to music lies at some point on the spectrum between rhythm and melody. Billy sits on the melodic end of the spectrum, which is obvious from the way he solos. He'll do something like change a simple E major chord to an A minor 7th by manipulating the melody, which he does a tremendous amount of on Adore and MCIS.

Some say it's better that way. Some say it's worse. Some call it undisciplined. Some call it punk as fuck. I call it punk as fuck.

tristessa
07-25-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by meladoriemagpie


Where in the site do I find that? I checked in the MP3's section and didn't find it.

go to mp3 and then go to reel time studio sessions and it will be in there.

stumpycat
07-27-2003, 01:07 AM
Do I think that Billy has the "most brutal solos"? No. But, I do very much like Billy's soloing style in the fact that it sometimes plays against the melody, while at the same time somehow avoids clashing with it. Even though some of his solos are downright chaotic and move at an absolutely frenetic pace, they still manage to stray from falling into the category of "genetic metal solo" and maintain a certain individuality that I don't hear with just every rock guitarist. Some of Billy's solos are really more akin to some of the licks that you'd hear in grindcore metal--though played atop more melodic, paced music.

"An Evil Day In the Life of Hexen" is the video you are talking about. If you can manage to get past Billy's awful pompadour mullet there's some definite guitar-wankery going on there. :)



Originally posted by ******
some of the stuff i've seen and heard on live stuff from 91-96 is just fucking unbelievable. intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge FRANTICLY EXPLOSIVE GUITAR WAILING chorus outro.

When you say "just fucking unbelievable", do you mean this in a "whoa...holy shit that sounds cool!" kind of way?

bonsor
07-27-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by stumpycat
When you say "just fucking unbelievable", do you mean this in a "whoa...holy shit that sounds cool!" kind of way? i think those recordings would not be the same at all if he didn't solo like he did. Maybe I'm just used to hearing it like that all my life, but when he goes into those I Am One solos on vieuphoria, i can't help but lose my mind every time.

eel_86
07-28-2003, 03:21 PM
This is my first post here at netphoria. I'm pretty new to the Pumpkins, which is a shame since they've long since split. Anyway, I'd say Billy is a pretty incredible guitarist, and his solos are amazing. They've got loads of style, and are probably the most brutal I've heard, especially on MCIS, where they're often just crazy noise. It's worth mentioning that his solos can also be very melodic, like on some songs on Siamese Dream.were

stumpycat
07-29-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by ******
i think those recordings would not be the same at all if he didn't solo like he did. Maybe I'm just used to hearing it like that all my life, but when he goes into those I Am One solos on vieuphoria, i can't help but lose my mind every time.
1990-era Pumpkins jamming ownz. Sail away on the soloing, man!