View Full Version : what the hell is going on?

06-06-2003, 01:22 AM
i guess i must have missed the post about it, but when did it become cool to make fun of anyone who likes Billy? obviously people who come to this board will like Billy and they should be able to say so without getting flamed.

at the 03-25-03 show i met these two crazy girls who absolutely loved Billy and weren't ashamed of it in the least bit. even when people around them were bashing them for it. but they didn't care what anyone else thought. they waited something like 13 hours for the show and were in the front of the line (i'm sure some of you saw them, they ended up changing into dresses in the freezing cold). anyway, their love for Billy was so genuine. it wasn't because he's hot or cause he was in SP. it was just because they believed in him. i think they were definitely in the right spirit and the happiest people to be there. i think i've seen them at SP shows and such in Toronto. there should be more people like them. they like who they like whether it's "cool" or not.

While i'm here i would also like to say that i think it's disgusting that all you talk about on here is how much you hate zwan and how much they suck. but yet, they're all you ever talk about. if you all hate them so much then don't buy their albums and don't take up space at their shows. nobody's forcing you to spend money on them. so instead of wasting your time complaining about them, just stop and use your energy for something more productive (like learning to spell), and leave the people who like zwan and billy alone.

06-06-2003, 01:44 AM
I was at that show, and while I don't "love" billy, and that show doesn't really rank among my top ten, I will go on record as saying I think zwan is great, but people are entitled to say that they suck if they want. Whatever. I kinda wish they had stayed low key rather than try to live up to past and former glories, but what the hell. They're a good band. yay zwan.


06-06-2003, 01:45 AM
those are the types of people who line up all day just to be squished up at the front of the barrier to yell "I LOVE U BILEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" over and over again, then go home, and make a post at the z-board about how b0lly "made eye kontackt" with them. it's funny.

06-06-2003, 01:57 AM
i completely agree that there are people who ruin it by screaming Billy's name, but not all of them are like that. some people just like to be as close to the action as possible. and those idiots shouldn't make a stereotype about all of us that do like Billy, and we shouldn't let them.
and as for posting on the z-board about how billy made eye contact with them, what's wrong with letting some people think that they left the concert with a memory that was all their own? it's little things like that that make someone's day and who are we to begrudge them that?

i personally like being squished at the front during shows for a band i really like. if i'm just standing at the back not being a part of the crowd, i don't enjoy it nearly as much. but that's just me.

i'm also all for people stating their opinions about not liking zwan, but once you mention it, nothing more about it that needs to be said.

06-06-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by Brandont_h
past and former glories
Vanity stands naked at my door.

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06-06-2003, 11:35 AM

right on. whoever said that was right on. if only zwan had stayed low key...

goddamn billy, pride goeth before a fall.


06-06-2003, 04:27 PM
thank you, sugar queen. 90% of the posts on this board are about reasons the pumpkins and zwan suck, or what an asshole billy is. and most of the negativity is from people with over 1000 posts on this board. if you don't have anything nice to say about the band, go get some fresh air.

06-06-2003, 05:34 PM
I remember the days of being a giddy thirteen-year-old all too well...:o
Okay, I never did anything too embarrassing or bad, although I was definitely very enthusiastic and now that I look back probably did some things that were a bit cringe-worthy. When I feel like belittling those types now, I always remember that at one time I was probably one of them. At that age you just express just how much you like something, and just how big of a fan you are.

I think that a number of Billy/Pumpkins fans feel the need to criticize Zwan out of frustration...frustration for the fact that they know the quality of work Billy is capable of, and what Zwan could be capable of if they really "tried".

And yes, it is possible to end up at the front without having to camp out or wait in line for a ridiculous number of hours. I did it. :) (Though if you enjoy camping out on the hellishly cold/hot streetcorner with other fans as part of the experience, have fun!)

06-07-2003, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by pumpkinxyu
if you don't have anything nice to say about the band, go get some fresh air.

06-07-2003, 01:29 PM