What a horrible song. :noway: I don't know what to expect anymore from metallica. I hope the rest of St. Anger is better than that.

yeah the song sucks. the album is on #altrock on irc.efnet.net if you're the IRC type.

I'll shorten it this time.

Metallica?! Shit album?! Shock!

I heard that today - oh how I laughed. And then cried. What the hell is Lars doing? I mean I know he's hardly rated as a drummer but why didn't someone turn around during recording and say 'LARS, WILL YOU STOP WITH THAT STUPID 1-2-1-2 SHIT?'

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
I'll shorten it this time.

Metallica?! Shit album?! Shock!

i actually figured it was gonna blow. I guess i wanted it not to.

That song sucks, damn I bet the album is awful too. As much as I love their earlier stuff, they are laughable anymore.

I actually listened to the radio this past week calling in for tix, and KROQ's been playing this horrible song as their #1 on the Furious Five at 9.....how pathetic.

what a stupid name.

Originally posted by Graveflower
YOU FLUSH IT OUT, YOU FLUSH IT OUT :D

I don't really know what to think of this song. anyhow, I know this part sucks.

<font color=33FFFF> the song does suck, but I do like the percussion kinda</font>

the drums are mixed in a strange way...some parts seem too soft, as compared to other parts

I don't really think it's that bad (at least it wouldn't be for some other bands)...it's just that it sure as hell doesn't sound like Metallica. At least "alternative" Metallica sounded like a semi-shitty, watered-down version of their previous selves...but judging from "St. Anger" it sounds almost as if they're trying to pull off some type of System of a Down sound in order to 'keep up with the times'.

that song is terrible in every possible way. terrible vocals, terrible lyrics, terrible guitar, terrible percussion, terrible arrangement... I cant think of one thing i like about it.

Well, basically it just sounds like something that you'd hear at one of our local metal bars...which isn't too good considering that I know Metallica is capable or writing something of a much higher caliber. But speaking realistically, I figured that the new alblum would probably turn out to be a bit shite.

I don't know why the "1-2" drumming pattern in this song is so damned annoying (I've liked other songs with a similar rhythmic pattern), but it is. It just sounds so...wrong.

The video is kind of cool, but I'm rather surprised that some of those prisoners who remembered the Metallica of old didn't kick their asses for sucking...of course they were probably just grateful to have any sort of entertainment at all.

Originally posted by stumpycat
Well, basically it just sounds like something that you'd hear at one of our local metal bars

In other words, complete rubbish.

Originally posted by meladoriemagpie
that song is terrible in every possible way. terrible vocals, terrible lyrics, terrible guitar, terrible percussion, terrible arrangement... I cant think of one thing i like about it.

it's pretty bad... I like the drum mix, but the rest just sucks.

They're still a band?

Originally posted by Echorun
They're still a band?

The song sounds like there's only 2 of them left

the rock radio station in my area jocks metallica no matter what/ if i actually listened to that station, i'm sure i'd hear it 3 times a day.

said radio station also has a Mandatory Metallica on monday nights, where they play like, 5 songs.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by David
the rock radio station in my area jocks metallica no matter what/ if i actually listened to that station, i'm sure i'd hear it 3 times a day.

said radio station also has a Mandatory Metallica on monday nights, where they play like, 5 songs.:rolleyes:
Clear Channel has one "hard rock" station in nearly every market that does this. It's not just that station.

They usually also own a "classic rock" station that does a "get the Led out" and an "alt rock" station that plays Bob Marley songs at 4:20 every day.

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son

Clear Channel has one "hard rock" station in nearly every market that does this. It's not just that station.

They usually also own a "classic rock" station that does a "get the Led out" and an "alt rock" station that plays Bob Marley songs at 4:20 every day.
ah, i see.

wow, this is really bad. I knew this new cd was going to suck balls. This song is quite possibly their worst, worse than anything on Load, Reload

It seems like Corgan handed over the blueprints of how to end a band in the worst possible way. What a disgrace, now we get to hear this horrible song on the horrible radio for the entire horrible summer.

Originally posted by David

ah, i see.

yeah, the we get Mandatory Metallica Mon-Friday 10pm.

I got to hear it on the radio. It's got a very weird sort of repulsiveness to it. It sounds like something some kids would make in Cooledit. The drums may as well be from some other song.

You know what part of the song truly makes me cringe? I WANT MY ANGER TO BE HEYALTHEH!!! Ugggh.

It's not that I have anything against Led Zepplin, or even early Metallica--but for god's sake, one would think that the damn Clear Channel stations could play something else on their token hard rock and classic rock stations every once in a while. They aren't the only bands to grace the face of the earth, you know? And yes, we have Mandatory Metallica on down here, too--although until a month ago or so it was in the 12:00-12:25am time slot, before "The Rubber Room", which plays new music.

this album is absolutely incredible.

fuck all you hataz.

Originally posted by Travis Meeks


yeah, the we get Mandatory Metallica Mon-Friday 10pm. I almost forgot to mention "Two for Tuesdays" and "Block Party Saturdays"

Originally posted by Graveflower
YOU FLUSH IT OUT, YOU FLUSH IT OUT

:rofl:

you make me laugh :)

When I heard the song I didn't even know it was Metallica. It sounds horrible.

As a Metallica fan, I've been trying to avoid clicking on this thread for about a week. I'm looking forward to St. Anger, but it's hard not to let all the criticism and negativity here dull my confidence in the band--a lot of the bands I love today have been introduced to me by Netphoria, so if everyone here hates it, it's not a good sign.

Oh, well. I plan on picking it up on June 10--my birthday, in case anyone is keeping score--along with Hail to the Theif, regardless. I hope I enjoy it.

But have you actually heard the single yet? If so, than just form your own opinions on it--fuck what we say. It doesn't matter much. I haven't heard anything else from the alblum just yet, although the release date is being changed because the Metallica camp is apparently all flustered about a recent "leak" over the internet. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by AndItsAllGone
As a Metallica fan, I've been trying to avoid clicking on this thread for about a week. I'm looking forward to St. Anger, but it's hard not to let all the criticism and negativity here dull my confidence in the band--a lot of the bands I love today have been introduced to me by Netphoria, so if everyone here hates it, it's not a good sign.

Oh, well. I plan on picking it up on June 10--my birthday, in case anyone is keeping score--along with Hail to the Theif, regardless. I hope I enjoy it.

well, it's just one song so there is still hope.....

Originally posted by Travis Meeks
well, it's just one song so there is still hope.....

No, no there is not. I bought St. Anger today and I must say that I've never in my entire life been this disappointed in an album. I spent $9.99 at Best Buy on it; I would feel better if I had given the money to James Hetfield in person and watched him piss on it.

I don't know what happened. Where is the Metallica that wrote "The House Jack Built", "Bleeding Me", "Fixxxer", and "Where the Wild Things Are"? This new album is shit. It's a tremendous waste of money and time--I can't stress this enough.

kroq fm is playing snips from all the songs on the radio. I don't like it at all. Metallica has joined all the bad bands in the nu-metal scene.

Originally posted by Fattening Ass
kroq fm is playing snips from all the songs on the radio. I don't like it at all.

I'm surprised you can even tell them apart. I'm not normally this negative, but St. Anger sounds like an awful first album, not the eighth from seasoned songwriters who should, in all honestly, be past this phase by now. There's practically no melody, terribly muddled and uninspired guitar lines, and cringe-inducing lyrics that would make Trent Reznor roll his eyes. The final song of the album cumulates with James Hetfield screaming, "Kill! Kill! Kill!"

This album is a slap in the face to any fan who waited patiently for the band's return to form after a halfhearted soundtrack one-off, the Napster fiasco, and three years of hope.

so is jason newstand a smart guy?

Originally posted by mellon_c0llie
so is jason newstand a smart guy?

Very smart indeed.

I've only heard the title track, and it's easily the worst song Metallica have ever recorded. Heck, it's up there with some of the worst songs ever recorded, full stop. It's like a parody, in a way - that "YOU FLUSH IT OUT" part is so horribly funny.

7 minutes of absolute, horrific torture - and if this is the centerpiece of the new album, then I can only wonder just how crap the other songs are.

granted...st anger is pretty bad, but i still wanna hear the rest of the album.

Originally posted by AndItsAllGone


I'm surprised you can even tell them apart. I'm not normally this negative, but St. Anger sounds like an awful first album, not the eighth from seasoned songwriters who should, in all honestly, be past this phase by now. There's practically no melody, terribly muddled and uninspired guitar lines, and cringe-inducing lyrics that would make Trent Reznor roll his eyes. The final song of the album cumulates with James Hetfield screaming, "Kill! Kill! Kill!"


It's simple, really. They were past that phase, but now they're just past it. See Genesis's "Calling All Stations" for further details.

In the case that you don't know that particular album (be thankful if you don't) - then it's basically the case of a band trying to get back to what they used to do and haven't done for years, when all that creativity and spark the band used to have is looong gone. The result at the end of the day is often "worst fucking album ever" - an absolute car-crash.

I'll be buggered if i'm going to waste money on this new Metallica album - you'd have to pay me to buy it.

Originally posted by mellon_c0llie
so is jason newstand a smart guy? Yeah, Metallica sold out....EVERY CONCERT WE PLAY!!!!

Originally posted by AndItsAllGone


I'm surprised you can even tell them apart. I'm not normally this negative, but St. Anger sounds like an awful first album, not the eighth from seasoned songwriters who should, in all honestly, be past this phase by now. There's practically no melody, terribly muddled and uninspired guitar lines, and cringe-inducing lyrics that would make Trent Reznor roll his eyes. The final song of the album cumulates with James Hetfield screaming, "Kill! Kill! Kill!"

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">Yeah no kidding. I'm listening to Master of Puppets to wash the pain away.

I think James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich think the reason for the band's popularity is James Hetfield's lyrics. Uh. No. Everything is really pretentiously done. It's way out of place. Oh and one last note on St. Anger: When there are no Kirk Hammet solos, SOMETHING IS REALLY WRONG.</font>

I heard the song on the radio tonight for the first time.

:rofl:

Is he really singing "I'm madly in anger with you"???

oh god...

How long is this song? I downloaded a version off of Kazaa and it wasn't half bad, but it didn't seem consistent with the song everyone's complaining about here (i.e. there was a hammet solo, I didn't hear any of the lyrics mentioned). It was likely an old song renamed (though I didn't recognize it).

Yeah, you probably got "And Justice For All" or something like that. That's one of the ones I kept on getting. And St. Anger is about 7 mins. long.

It definitely wasn't And Justice For All.

In any case, I've found the actual song. Or at least I think I have - upon hearing it, I had the sudden urge to stab myself in the face repeatedly with a pen.

A song that bad defies explanation. It's easily in my top 5 worst of all time. The lyrics are so bad its insane, even if it were satire or parody they would still be cringeworthy. it's just bad noise, bad vocals, bad lyrics, bad drums, bad everything.... incredible! They've completely abandoned what they were good at, making hard-hitting, riffs.

Originally posted by NegativeSleep
It definitely wasn't And Justice For All.

In any case, I've found the actual song. Or at least I think I have - upon hearing it, I had the sudden urge to stab myself in the face repeatedly with a pen.

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">OOOH ST. ANGURRRR.</font>

Originally posted by AndItsAllGone



Where is the Metallica that wrote "The House Jack Built", "Bleeding Me", "Fixxxer", and "Where the Wild Things Are"? That WASN'T the true Metallica. that was the sell-out Metallica. Now they play metal again. I'm glad that there are Load era fans crying now. The song structures are odd and the production is awful and it sounds rough, but it's a step in the right direction. The single/title track is AWFUL, but the rest of the album kicks serious ass. I always skip the single. The guitar tones are monsterous...sounds like Corrosion Of Conformity and Down...too bad some of the songs are way too fucking long and lack solos, but there's some killer grooving going on. Not as good as the new Anthrax though.

yes when i first listened to this song i was so amped to hear it that thought it was a good song. then as i listened to it more the more it sucked. it is all mixed up. I wish there is just some way that they can go back to the 'ride the lightning' and 'master of puppets' era. they were so heavy and kick ass then.

is it Lars drumming or is it a drum machine? :erm it's like the same fucking beat over and over again...

The song could have had potential, but the drums are lifeless and the flush it out part is just awful. Fucking rap-metal influences.

Originally posted by Deege
That WASN'T the true Metallica. that was the sell-out Metallica. Now they play metal again. I'm glad that there are Load era fans crying now. The song structures are odd and the production is awful and it sounds rough, but it's a step in the right direction. The single/title track is AWFUL, but the rest of the album kicks serious ass. I always skip the single. The guitar tones are monsterous...sounds like Corrosion Of Conformity and Down...too bad some of the songs are way too fucking long and lack solos, but there's some killer grooving going on. Not as good as the new Anthrax though.

Originally posted by siamese_soma
yes when i first listened to this song i was so amped to hear it that thought it was a good song. then as i listened to it more the more it sucked. it is all mixed up. I wish there is just some way that they can go back to the 'ride the lightning' and 'master of puppets' era. they were so heavy and kick ass then.

You're both idiots.

I love the Metallica of the 80's just as much as the Metallica of the 90's. I list Master of Puppets alongside The Moon and Antarctica and Kid A on my list of favorite albums. The band, however, is past that stage--and for a good reason, it seems. People that think a band can successfully return to a sound they left over a decade ago are just fooling themselves. Load and ReLoad weren't the same kind of music as the band's more short-sighted fans are used to, but that doesn't mean they weren't powerful.

But hey, I'm not going to change your mind, am I? Go ahead and call yourselves "true fans" and wish for the return of an era that is dead and gone. If you want to ignore great music, then it's certainly not my problem--just don't try and label me a poser for enjoying well-crafted albums that simply don't try and be something they're not.

Originally posted by AndItsAllGone




You're both idiots.

I love the Metallica of the 80's just as much as the Metallica of the 90's. I list Master of Puppets alongside The Moon and Antarctica and Kid A on my list of favorite albums. The band, however, is past that stage--and for a good reason, it seems. People that think a band can successfully return to a sound they left over a decade ago are just fooling themselves. Load and ReLoad weren't the same kind of music as the band's more short-sighted fans are used to, but that doesn't mean they weren't powerful.

But hey, I'm not going to change your mind, am I? Go ahead and call yourselves "true fans" and wish for the return of an era that is dead and gone. If you want to ignore great music, then it's certainly not my problem--just don't try and label me a poser for enjoying well-crafted albums that simply don't try and be something they're not.
Come on guys...let's stick to talking about how much St. Anger sucks, ok?

Originally posted by Deege
Corrosion Of Conformity
Down
Anthrax

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At least Metallica won't have to worry about people downloading this album!
*Ba-Dump-Bump!*

Originally posted by Eulogy

Come on guys...let's stick to talking about how much St. Anger sucks, ok?

but rolling stone really liked it. they gave it four stars. http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=2046700

they would not lie to me!

Originally posted by Deege
sounds like Corrosion Of Conformity and Down

<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">Yeah, um. No.</font>

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants


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<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">I dunno what that means but I like two of those bands.

You're starting to piss me off.</font>

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros


<font color=#007AAA face="courier new">
You're starting to piss me off.</font>

welcome to the club man.

Musically - a step back to their roots with some more modern sensibility that muddies it up. I think overall they went in the right direction with the music, but it does need some friggin solos.

Lyrically - definitely a misfire.

it sounds like the band only has one whiny 15 year old satan worshipping crappy metal guitarist.

youd think as long is it took to complete it be a decent album

Originally posted by Fattening Ass
welcome to the club man.

Glad to see I can be of service.

Nah. Sorry I piss you off so much. I'd take you out for a drink if I ever met you.

Originally posted by Graveflower
YOU FLUSH IT OUT

<img src="http://forums.netphoria.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=378071">

http://www.guitar.com/cda/discuss/img/m3064575-7643.jpg

figures. the one celebrity group i am sort of "hooked up" with (hetfield's brother is one of my dad's best friends and gets everyone tickets and passes every time they come to town) sucks now.

Originally posted by Graveflower
YOU FLUSH IT OUT

<img src="http://forums.netphoria.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=378071"> saint wanker?

All I have to say is, who the fuck is St. Anger?

Originally posted by pizzahunks
All I have to say is, who the fuck is St. Anger?

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