View Full Version : Better version of Age of Innocense: EGO or Machina release?


ckeegan
05-21-2003, 09:10 PM
I found a mix tape in my basement today that had the EGO release of Machina on it...I particularly enjoyed listening to the Sacred and Profane, with the drums tacked onto the beginning rather than the end, and the synthier version of AOI...for the moment, I'd say I like the EGO version of AOL better than the official release...which version does everyone here like better?

Eulogy
05-21-2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by ckeegan
I particularly enjoyed listening to the Sacred and Profane, with the drums tacked onto the beginning rather than the end

That sounds like it could be really cool. I wanna hear it.

Cecil
05-21-2003, 09:53 PM
I like the AOI better too! I like the synth wash at the end. Are these available other than in mp3?

spfreak
05-21-2003, 10:35 PM
i don't remember the ego verison =( its been too long =(

REQ: mp3 :D

TheJoker
05-22-2003, 12:27 AM
"untitled" CD single.

SomaPhreak
05-22-2003, 01:05 AM
I like the synth version of Age of Innocence, but the rock version on Machina blows it away.

VegasPumpkin
05-22-2003, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by TheJoker
"untitled" CD single. actually the EGO version is different than that. The EGO version is just an earlier mix of the album version. I like the album version of AOI better because of the effect that they put on Billy's voice in the quite part.

Smiley
05-22-2003, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by VegasPumpkin
actually the EGO version is different than that.

I don't think The Joker was implying that the EGO version and the Untitled version are the same... I think he was just stating that he likes the Untitled single version best. :)

For me, it's a tie between the album version and the Untitled single version. The EGO one is the worst of the three, in my opinion.

Reyngel
05-22-2003, 04:17 AM
Yeah, I definitely like the EGO version of The Sacred + Profane more than the album version.

VegasPumpkin
05-22-2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by Smiley


I don't think The Joker was implying that the EGO version and the Untitled version are the same... I think he was just stating that he likes the Untitled single version best. :)

For me, it's a tie between the album version and the Untitled single version. The EGO one is the worst of the three, in my opinion. my mistake:p, but i agree with you that the EGO version is the worst of the three.

severin
05-22-2003, 07:06 AM
excuse my ignorance, but what does EGO stand for?

spfreak
05-22-2003, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by severin
excuse my ignorance, but what does EGO stand for?

i believe its the release group that "leaked it onto the scene"

Smiley
05-22-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by severin
excuse my ignorance, but what does EGO stand for?

I'm not sure what it stands for, but I can tell you what it is... EGO is/was one of those mp3 piracy groups. They leaked out all of Machina in early January 2000. Clips had already been leaked out and a few full songs, but EGO was the first to leak the entire album. I think it was 192 kbps.

But it was from a promo of the album, so that's why those two tracks are slightly different.

There was a big post on here a while back, probably about a year ago, all about how exactly this happened. If anybody is curious, I think I still have the topic saved on my HD, so I could look it up. The guy who posted it was the one who originally had the promo. There was some drama about him copying it for a new friend that he barely knew, and the guy turned out to be dishonest about it blah blah blah. I think the story was that the guy approached Jeroen/NSPAA with it, but Jeroen didn't want to have anything to do with it... so the guy contacted EGO, and the rest is history. Maybe I can find the topic, or maybe the guy who originally posted it (I'm sorry, I don't remember who) is still here and can tell the story again. My memory is a bit foggy.

The reason why I'm mentioning all this is because I <i>think</i> I remember hearing that the alt. Sacred+Profane intro/outtro was just a hoax that the guy did, when he converted it to mp3. I'm not sure about that though. But I guess a lot of collectors have these promos... so can anyone here confirm or deny the S+P thing?

severin
05-22-2003, 07:49 AM
ah, thanks for the clarification....

Wainscott
05-22-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Smiley


I'm not sure what it stands for, but I can tell you what it is... EGO is/was one of those mp3 piracy groups. They leaked out all of Machina in early January 2000. Clips had already been leaked out and a few full songs, but EGO was the first to leak the entire album. I think it was 192 kbps.

But it was from a promo of the album, so that's why those two tracks are slightly different.

There was a big post on here a while back, probably about a year ago, all about how exactly this happened. If anybody is curious, I think I still have the topic saved on my HD, so I could look it up. The guy who posted it was the one who originally had the promo. There was some drama about him copying it for a new friend that he barely knew, and the guy turned out to be dishonest about it blah blah blah. I think the story was that the guy approached Jeroen/NSPAA with it, but Jeroen didn't want to have anything to do with it... so the guy contacted EGO, and the rest is history. Maybe I can find the topic, or maybe the guy who originally posted it (I'm sorry, I don't remember who) is still here and can tell the story again. My memory is a bit foggy.

The reason why I'm mentioning all this is because I <i>think</i> I remember hearing that the alt. Sacred+Profane intro/outtro was just a hoax that the guy did, when he converted it to mp3. I'm not sure about that though. But I guess a lot of collectors have these promos... so can anyone here confirm or deny the S+P thing?


Yes, this disc does exist and, if memory serves me right, I believe that it was the channel separation at the start of TEG that was the hoax...done to see how far it would spread.

W

ckeegan
05-22-2003, 12:18 PM
does anyone still have the promo release mp3's??

Salena Child
05-22-2003, 01:12 PM
i enjoy both of them.

Dead
05-22-2003, 01:38 PM
Yeah it was the channel seperation thing. And the album version of AOI is the best one!

Jesse Miller
05-22-2003, 01:40 PM
There were more than two songs that were different... I remember Glass + The Ghost Children and Imploding Voice as having slightly different mixes.

KingKong
05-22-2003, 02:11 PM
I think Glass and the Ghost Children has additional talking in the break and the guitars and drums sound different on the Imploding Voice.

useful idiot
05-22-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by KingKong
I think Glass and the Ghost Children has additional talking in the break

nothings really different with g&tgc (i have the ego mp3s and my album rips....)

Cecil
05-22-2003, 04:04 PM
Could someone who has an actual promo put it on the hub?...or ftp the mp3's?

sosnumculfer
05-22-2003, 04:11 PM
I'd say I like the EGO version of AOL better than the official release...

SOMEONE had to notice

Echorun
05-22-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Smiley

There was a big post on here a while back, probably about a year ago, all about how exactly this happened. If anybody is curious, I think I still have the topic saved on my HD, so I could look it up. The guy who posted it was the one who originally had the promo. There was some drama about him copying it for a new friend that he barely knew, and the guy turned out to be dishonest about it blah blah blah.

I had asked about the story behind the release quite some time ago, though I didn't save the response. But from what I remember, your version sounds right Smiley.

mrjackalope
05-22-2003, 07:47 PM
is there someplace i could get ahold of these, or someone that could send them to me (over aim: mrjackalope101). these sound pretty interesting and i'd love to hear em.

useful idiot
05-23-2003, 03:58 AM
you can get them on kazaa, just search for something like "pumpkins ego".

Reyngel
05-23-2003, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by useful idiot
you can get them on kazaa, just search for something like "pumpkins ego".

If you do a search for "Pumpkin's ego," you get 400 results back, since every song is Billy's ego.

Jesse Miller
05-23-2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by useful idiot


nothings really different with g&tgc (i have the ego mp3s and my album rips....)
Listen again...

ckeegan
05-23-2003, 05:21 PM
Ok, i got them off the hub...my screename on AOL is newwavehero for anyone who wants to check them out.

ckeegan
05-23-2003, 05:36 PM
I tell ya, i'm not hearing anything different in G&TGC...

Cecil
05-23-2003, 07:38 PM
ckeegan I'm searching for them on the hub and getting nothing?

Boycott Graceland
05-24-2003, 05:27 PM
i just dug out my old copy of machina that i burned from the ego mp3s. i like this age of innocense more than the official version.

Dead
05-24-2003, 07:10 PM
I see both tracks on the hub right now.

OffTopicMan
05-25-2003, 07:24 PM
album version rips the ego one to shreds

Dead
05-25-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by OffTopicMan
album version rips the ego one to shreds
heavy Adj. OK! Cool! That's very agreeable.

mrjackalope
05-25-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Dead
I see both tracks on the hub right now.

what are their filenames?

darcy_me
05-25-2003, 10:11 PM
pumpkins ego?

MonteLDS
05-25-2003, 11:58 PM
BAHAHAHAHA at this thread name.

EGO is a mp3 rip group found on IRC they have been around since 1999. LOL. dude it was not the EGO release it is just the ADVANCE version. If you pick up the Machina Advance you would hear that mix.

From the EGO release notes

߲۲ Established in 1999, EGO has already proven to the ۲ܲ۲
۲ scene to be the number one releasing group. Week after ۰
۲ week, EGO puts out the hottest releases in music. Our
۲ supporters expect EGO to bring them fresh releases
۲ months before the street date and also be the group to
۲ completely dominate the scene on Tuesday's. Our effort
۲ has given us undoubtly the finest sites, couriers, and
۲ rippers in the scene. Thanks everyone for your support!

Side note. I believe EGO stands just that. Their ego for getting rips out there before other groups

OffTopicMan
05-27-2003, 08:14 PM
I just refered to it as the ego version because that's what the topic is about. I think most people know it's not some sort of demo. At least I hope not.

Ugly
05-27-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by MonteLDS
BAHAHAHAHA at this thread name.


Apparently Monte's real life alter-ego is Dr. Evil. :think:

Boycott Graceland
05-27-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Ugly


Apparently Monte's real life alter-ego is Dr. Evil. :think:

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