I would have posted this in the other thread I started about the liberal professor. However, for whatever reason, I can't scroll past down the video Aeris posted.



Administrators of the UC system think referring to America as a ‘melting pot’ is somehow offensive—and want teachers to stop using that and many other innocuous phrases. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/22/the-university-of-california-s-insane-speech-police.html)




Then again, this stuff is headline worthy on its own.


Of particular interest is this handout, “Recognizing Microaggressions and the Messages They Send,” which is adapted from a book by Columbia University Psychology Professor Derald Wing Sue. It lists dozens of examples of mundane statements and then explains why each could be racist.

Saying, “There is only one race, the human race,” is offensive because it denies “the significance of a person of color’s racial/ethnic experience and history.”
“America is the land of opportunity,” implies that “People of color are lazy and/or incompetent and need to work harder.”

Asking an Asian, Latino, or Native American “why are you so quiet?” is tantamount to giving the order “assimilate to dominant culture.”

And stating the opinion, “Affirmative action is racist,” is a microaggression by default.

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It also represents an absurd dumbing-down of the concepts of racism and sexism. Contrary to what the seminar materials assert, exclaiming, “Wow! How did you become so good at math?” is not an act of aggression—micro or otherwise. It’s a compliment. Shouldn’t students feel free to compare math-learning strategies without risking the wrath of the PC police?




A microaggression? lol. We're doomed if this esoteric gobbledygook takes over (or is too late already?).


These "request" of campus staff to refrain from uttering these phrases comes from the desk of UC President, Janet Napalitano, Former DHS butthead in chief. No surprise really.

microaggression is one of the stupidest fucking things ive come across

i think this is a good thread to debate why we should ban omega

i think this is a good thread to debate why we should ban omega

http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs17/jfk-06.jpg

i vote strongly no.

ya but you're also a conspiracy nut and proponent of free speech.

guilty, yet sounds like the makings of comedy.

it's funny how this element is in every single cultural institution that we have and i feel like we just ignored it throughout most of our lives

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piss

if we allow open racism, homophobia, and transphobia from this guy then we're basically as bad and toxic as reddit
And since there are people of color, gay people, and trans people on this board, yes we are directly effected by that
he should be banned
People I don't want to ignore continue to engage him so that would solve nothing

There is a legitimate discussion to be had about censorship, the validity of trigger warnings, in dealing with potentially controversial material being taught in academic settings
That discussion cannot happen in an omega concern thread if people are going to keep engaging with him

and that's the final word from the original party queen so you can take it to the bank, we're done here, next caller

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dont take my genius out of context

if we allow open racism, homophobia, and transphobia from this guy then we're basically as bad and toxic as reddit
And since there are people of color, gay people, and trans people on this board, yes we are directly effected by that
he should be banned
People I don't want to ignore continue to engage him so that would solve nothing

except that hes ill, nobodys listening, and hes not going after you personally. if he were doing stuff to ppl it would be one thing, he just posts a bunch of barely coherent nonsense

Any racist, homophobic, and transphobic statement is personally going after the people in that group
And people are fucking listening because they won't just stop engaging him
They can't help themselves
I just say "stop posting" and break his threads, that's not engaging
If we could stick to that he'd lose his audience and maybe shut up
But it won't happen
He is the Black Plague reborn
We must cut him off completely

ill be next

You won't because you dont spew garbage about people in oppressed groups
I mean yeah I don't like the futa references but I asked if you could stop, I didn't flip out
And I like you and you're generally liked
They won't come for you if you say nothing on omegas banning

i mean in general, really

i have lots of unpopular views, and eventually ill be prohibited from sharing them

Any racist, homophobic, and transphobic statement is personally going after the people in that groupnot sure why this is so hard for people to understand.

because people like the idea of freedom of speech

I can't remember who said it but if you're leaning on freedom of speech to defend a sentiment essentially what you're saying is that the best thing that sentiment has to recommend itself is that it's not technically illegal to say it.

freedom of speech is not absolute. i work for a privately held company and we have a code of conduct we're expected to follow, which includes guidelines on speech and how we talk to one another. when i'm at work i have virtually no freedom of speech

i see nothing wrong with what the university is doing. unless they intend to punish employees for using terms like "melting pot," then this appears to simple be a set of guidelines that they want staff to follow.

hobby lobby want's to police it's employees reproductive choices.

"freedom of religion go work somewhere else!"

university want's staff to be respectful of diverse campus

"SOCIALIST THOUGHT POLICE!"

While we're talking about ToC is just like to point out the underlying narrative in his posts that any time a white male commits a horrible mass murder it's because he's a government patsy. Because as we all know white males never commit horrible acts of violence towards women or people of colour of their own volition.

eventually itll get to the point where people asking questions are causing MICROAGGRESSIONS

i prefer macroaggressions because it pisses people off much more quickly

eventually, nobody will actually have conversations about any of this because its so profoundly emotionally charged, and the entire country will fight about it on twitter and itll never get fixed

oh thats what happens NOW

Look the phrase "microsggresion" is pretty dumb, and I think there's probably a lot of room for debate on wether these particular measures are reasonable. But I think it's also really important to remember that oppression can and does happen in small ways and in behaviours that the aggressor rarely even knows that they're doing. It's one of the principal arguments of MRAs is that discrimination must be a conscious act in order to be discrimination, and that's just not true. Ultimately, if people feel discriminated against, the outcome is the same, and people get so caught up in being mortified at the idea that someone is accusing them of being racist/sexist/transphobic that the important idea - that you have to address ingrained cultural behaviours that manifest in the individual in order to eliminate prejudice - gets lost by the wayside of white men wringing their hands and wailing about being asked to engage in a little bit of self reflection.

im a straight white male. i have bipolar disoder and i definitely feel discriminated against

Look the phrase "microsggresion" is pretty dumb,

no it isn't
but i'm not going to bother explaining
i'm tired of explaining this shit to people who will never understand

i fail to see how a microaggression is not a thing

im a straight white male. i have bipolar disoder and i definitely feel discriminated against
what are you getting at with this

no it isn't
but i'm not going to bother explaining
i'm tired of explaining this shit to people who will never understand

Okay but

Considering I'm one of the people who comes down on your side 99.98% of the time, and I make a habit of engaging in discussion about this stuff and taking in the opinions of others And trying to work out all the perspectives and the reasonings, I kinda feel like you're not giving me much credit by lumping me in with "people who will never understand"?

what are you getting at with this

how about you tell me

because mostly, i get told thats not legitimate

im a straight white male. i have bipolar disoder and i definitely feel discriminated against

Mental health discrimination is alive and well for sure. Don't even get me started on the flippancy with which people use the word "psycho"

MICROAGGRESSION

Literally the only thing I disagree with about the microsggresion thing is the actual word itself.

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Microaggression is a weird term. Honestly I can't look at that word without thinking

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Micro_Machines_logo.png

because mostly, i get told thats not legitimate
well it is.

Literally the only thing I disagree with about the microsggresion thing is the actual word itself.
is there a better word

Well obviously one doesn't exist but I feel like it doesn't serve the ends so well because it implies that they're both insignificant and intentional, when they are for the most part neither.

The uncomfortable truth would be calling it "vestigial racism and sexism so deeply ingrained in our cultural identity and behaviours that we don't even see it"

Microaggression is when you punch people with miniature fists.

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/megadude3/dark-sided_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

I get asked about my genitals and what I'm doing with them everyday
I have to explain and defend myself every day with the constant debates over the validly of transsexual and transgender identities
Mixroagressions are fucking exhausting

I think we should all learn to live with the hatred of others. Everyone has a right to their opinion, even if that opinion is that I deserve to die. I of course will defend myself to the utmost with both closed and open hand martial arts to stop their murder of me, but I'll defend with my dying breath their right to wish and actively impose death and hell on me.

And the award for least checked privilege in the thread goes to

I get asked about my genitals and what I'm doing with them everyday
I have to explain and defend myself every day with the constant debates over the validly of transsexual and transgender identities
Mixroagressions are fucking exhausting

Thanks Sarah, somehow just you saying this means that I get what micro aggression is now and why it is called that. Sorry for trying to make light of that term, I just didn't get it before.

i don't think having to frequently defend yourself over your identity is a "microaggression"

The uncomfortable truth would be calling it "vestigial racism and sexism so deeply ingrained in our cultural identity and behaviours that we don't even see it"

right so now we're in thought police territory

saying melting pot is a bad thing is weird to me, i mean we want to be separate territorial squabbling balkans? no, i don't

now lets all talk about the cultural appropriation of food

this will be incredibly productive

i think micro aggressions are things like the sad ball on the prozac commercial being negative about what it's like about being depressed and how shameful it is and i'm like i dunno the ball kind of gets it, i thought i mean you shouldn't feel like it's just a thing because it does suck a lot

having to defend yourself for what you are isn't micro, how is that micro

well it is.

what level is it

band pretty much sucks and billy is pretty gross

i've done quite poorly today, apologies i'll regroup tomorrow

right so now we're in thought police territory

saying melting pot is a bad thing is weird to me, i mean we want to be separate territorial squabbling balkans? no, i don't

I read at a very young age that a salad is a more appropriate metaphor. And it really is and I kind of like it.

If you think about it i don't think it's difficult to see how melting pot can be problematic. The whiteness (maleness, straightness, etc.) of American culture would dominate and overrun any other additions made to the pot.

People's cultural identities would disappear.

"a salad" is very insulting to the obese. i wouldn't use it.

i don't think having to frequently defend yourself over your identity is a "microaggression"

Asking trans women about their genitals is though
The constant and exhausting explanations defending my very existence is the effect of the microagressions

sheeyut, you got it easy sister. try being a nihilisticism and explaining that to someone.

"Do you believe in God?"

"Uh..."

Asking trans women about their genitals is though
The constant and exhausting explanations defending my very existence is the effect of the microagressions

I feel like that's beyond a microaggression but perhaps we need to nail down a definition of that term at some point here

At the risk of sounding like I'm responding to TOC, which I'm not, is there such thing as being too sensitive anymore? Or is sensitivity to discomfort the greatest concern we have now?

Also if any mobs microaggro me I just drop mad AoEs and DOTs or possibly some CC and lolgtfo asap.

To my mind the whole debate generally is about people feeling upset that they are told they shouldn't be assholes more often than they used to be.

I do think the conversation is different within the context of academia.

"a salad" is very insulting to the obese. i wouldn't use it.

just because a food is lower in calories doesn't make it unappealing to obese people. I do not appreciate your judgment, sir.

right on vixnix! if anything, the fat fucks are glad to have to eat MORE to get the same amount of fullfillness.

Yes not to mention a palate cleanser between the cheeseburger and turducken courses.

just because a food is lower in calories doesn't make it unappealing to obese people. I do not appreciate your judgment, sir.

Right? Those people will eat anything

it's still offensive. if you don't understand this, i don't know what to say to you.

just don't say "salad". mkay?

there are countless words, phrases, etc that are no longer tolerated because we've grown at least slightly more respectful of others. it's not acceptable to use the N word or to say "colored" in public. For the most part in public life it's unacceptable to say demeaning things to women, such as "are you on the rag." Or call them "honey" or refer to a grown woman as "girl."

how is asking deeply personal and potentially offensive questions of someone also not acceptable? It wouldn't be acceptable to ask an African American if they like watermelon or whether their skin color can be washed off or to ask them whether you can touch their hair. Likewise, it's just as unacceptable to ask someone about their genitalia, regardless of their apparent gender.

I like it how scotty thinks he's gonna get away with all this banal stuff by acting like he's "sarcastic" or "facetious."

i hope to never read the word "genitals" again

I like how scotty just got away with saying all this sexist and racist shit under the guise of "it's totally not fine for me to say _____________ and _____________ and _______________" I don't think anyone here was under the impression that any of that stuff was alright to say. I think you just wanted to sneak in some insulting language. We all see through your little display of false concern for oppressed groups. You disgust me.

the only insulting thing I intend to say is DIAF you horrible troll

genitals

i'm offended when the waitresses call me sweetie

why is this still a thing

poots is way worse than TOC.

I don't think people should be banned because they have opinions you don't like or because we wanna pat ourselves on the back for lame call-out culture purposes. They should be banned for being disruptive. Thats why I don't like TOC. Its not like I don't find charm in his nutty right wing conspiracy schtick, its when he does that shit when there's a tragedy or when there's a thread that obviously shouldn't be treated with levity. poots is more frequent in derailing and disrupting threads though

poots is way worse than TOC.

I don't think people should be banned because they have opinions you don't like or because we wanna pat ourselves on the back for lame call-out culture purposes. They should be banned for being disruptive. Thats why I don't like TOC. Its not like I don't find charm in his nutty right wing conspiracy schtick, its when he does that shit when there's a tragedy or when there's a thread that obviously shouldn't be treated with levity. poots is more frequent in derailing and disrupting threads though

genitals

Very cool

Hey guys I just had shake shack for the first time

Asking trans women about their genitals is though
The constant and exhausting explanations defending my very existence is the effect of the microagressions

i just don't see how that is micro at all, seems pretty macro level

i mean maybe it's because i'm defining microaggression as being something that academics with nothing else to do and no real reason to exist would start inventing stuff based on basic idioms. or someone working on a whole list of food that's been culturally appropriated and that every time you buy a bahn mi you're supporting colonialism. that's the kind of dumb shit that i see and object to

that seems so macro to me

macro / "hey bro, how's your dick hangin?"

micro - so have you or will you have dick surgery?

even reprise micro'd me in a thread with dick questions a month ago

now i think the phrase is even more useless

I mean when you put it like that it's almost like it's minimizing your experience

macro - you slant eyed bastard

micro - wow, you're so good at math! You must have had strong disciplinarians as parents

trots your microexpressions and microaggressing me know what i mean

macro - you slant eyed bastard

micro - wow, you're so good at math! You must have had strong disciplinarians as parents

i equate them, is the point tho

It sounds innocent it sounds like genuine curiosity
But it reinforces stereotypes
And in trans instances, everyone's obsession with out genitals

trots your microexpressions and microaggressing me know what i mean

It's so easy for you people who don't live with this shit to make your flippant remarks
Weren't you just whining about us not having empathy for people

i went to Asia SF (http://asiasf.com/) once and I found it very enlightening

the ex was awful about saying back handed stuff like "all Xes are Y" in that asians are good at math kind of way

It's so easy for you people who don't live with this shit to make your flippant remarks
Weren't you just whining about us not having empathy for people



Don't know what you're referring to, and I was just goofing with trots about micro semantics.

micro genitals

jonathan monte micropenis

poots is way worse than TOC.

I don't think people should be banned because they have opinions you don't like or because we wanna pat ourselves on the back for lame call-out culture purposes. They should be banned for being disruptive. Thats why I don't like TOC. Its not like I don't find charm in his nutty right wing conspiracy schtick, its when he does that shit when there's a tragedy or when there's a thread that obviously shouldn't be treated with levity. poots is more frequent in derailing and disrupting threads though

we need some kind of a script that will automatically ban him for 5 days every time a tragedy happens.

well the mods could delete the posts but i don't see why

omega has given me insight into the mind of right wing america

i mean maybe you californians and whatever aren't used to people in real life telling you shit like this

macro / "hey bro, how's your dick hangin?"

micro - so have you or will you have dick surgery?

even reprise micro'd me in a thread with dick questions a month ago

sorry bout that. i wasnt actually serious, if i remember correctly you were inviting rude questions and that's what came to mind

yeah i remember that specifically

kind of unfair to reprise

ffs has it really come to this

yeah i remember that specifically

kind of unfair to reprise

it's nbd

i really cant imagine having to deal with all of the shit surrounding those questions though. sorry sarah.

the thread was Ask Aeris Anything
People were beng polite, but you all know I have a high threshold

But I was answering a lot of questions about the pain I went through from my gender dysphoria and out of nowhere reprise said "are you gonna chop your thingy off"

I didn't ep invite questions to be rude in particular. And the AMA format means ASK. Anything...but you don't have to answer. If she had asked "do you plan n any kind f surgery" it wouldn't have bugged me even though I don't like talking about since as an actual transsexual (I am transgender, but transsexual means medically transitionng beyond just your gender performance/presentation) it's a major part (lol) of my dysphoria, but I wanted questions about how my life had gone since ,y transition, I didn't want gross comments on my plans for key private parts. It mainly just bugged me because it was reprise. I consider her a friend and th most empathetic person I know and it bugged me. But. Answered it,mbecause, you know, I don't hold back. But having it come from her, is just. It's the same way I love you Brendan and think you're great, but it depressed me when you kept saying futa jokes. I know you said you don't think of me as a "dickgirl" but seeing you say a word like so flippantly makes it hard for me to think that if you make jokes about other trans women who have penises to believe that you don't, or you watch yourself around me. I hope that isn't the case and you meant hat you said that you dnt thin of me that way. And I do have confidence that you understand that I am justified in objecting to and being uncomfortable with friends using words that have no purpose but to demean and dehumanize tarpans women in particular.

ffs has it really come to this

sorry if I'm ruining your fun of it id racist etc. Joke
If it helps me and bahnzah, and the rest of the phoria SJW Crew get it and think iyo ure funny.

As long as you don't say ****** again like you did about Zach (suck suck style)

the thread was Ask Aeris Anything
People were beng polite, but you all know I have a high threshold

But I was answering a lot of questions about the pain I went through from my gender dysphoria and out of nowhere reprise said "are you gonna chop your thingy off"

I didn't ep invite questions to be rude in particular. And the AMA format means ASK. Anything...but you don't have to answer. If she had asked "do you plan n any kind f surgery" it wouldn't have bugged me even though I don't like talking about since as an actual transsexual (I am transgender, but transsexual means medically transitionng beyond just your gender performance/presentation) it's a major part (lol) of my dysphoria, but I wanted questions about how my life had gone since ,y transition, I didn't want gross comments on my plans for key private parts. It mainly just bugged me because it was reprise. I consider her a friend and th most empathetic person I know and it bugged me. But. Answered it,mbecause, you know, I don't hold back. But having it come from her, is just. It's the same way I love you Brendan and think you're great, but it depressed me when you kept saying futa jokes. I know you said you don't think of me as a "dickgirl" but seeing you say a word like so flippantly makes it hard for me to think that if you make jokes about other trans women who have penises to believe that you don't, or you watch yourself around me. I hope that isn't the case and you meant hat you said that you dnt thin of me that way. And I do have confidence that you understand that I am justified in objecting to and being uncomfortable with friends using words that have no purpose but to demean and dehumanize tarpans women in particular.

I'm sorry Sarah, I did not know it bothered you (the specific thing I said in the thread) and I should not have said it. It is none of my business what you do with your private parts and I shouldn't have even brought it up in a joking matter. I apologize.

i really think i brought up futa because everyone was discussing caitlin jenner's junk and i wanted to make fun of that by being extra crass and poots danced along like a little monkey

i dont even know what futa is/means

edit: oh nevermind, urban dictionary told me.

it probably didn't because it's short for futanari

yeah its on there, just not the first definition

oh lots of people heard of it

While we're talking about ToC is just like to point out the underlying narrative in his posts that any time a white male commits a horrible mass murder it's because he's a government patsy. Because as we all know white males never commit horrible acts of violence towards women or people of colour of their own volition.


poots is way worse than TOC.

Thats why I don't like TOC. Its not like I don't find charm in his nutty right wing conspiracy schtick, its when he does that shit when there's a tragedy or when there's a thread that obviously shouldn't be treated with levity.




US Intelligence Officer: “Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack” (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/05/15/us-intelligence-officer-every-single-terrorist-attack-in-us-was-a-false-flag-attack/)


“Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services."

Yesh...that would be ISIS.


to the free speech topic, there's this from France:


France Moves to Make ‘Conspiracy Theories’ Illegal by Government Decree (http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/03/19/france-moves-to-make-conspiracy-theories-illegal-by-government-decree/)


"Political elites and super-bureaucrats are worried. It’s becoming harder to control consensus reality."


However, Hollande takes it beyond the usual hyperbole and focuses on giving the state an administrative and legal foothold for policing both speech and thought crimes in France. If this can be accomplished in France, then a European roll-out would soon follow.

Ironically, in order to achieve this fascist leap forward, Hollande has equated “conspiracy theories” to Nazism, and is calling for government regulations to prevent any sharing or publishing of any views deemed as ‘dangerous thought’ by the state.

Hey TOC different subject altogether but whatcha think of this?


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those are two false flags leaving the earth
obviously

i'd like to drop toc oh somewhere around mosul and see him try to convince the mujahadeen that he knows they aren't really isis

that's like poetry bro (no homo)

that's like poetry bro (no homo)

you mean broetry

lol

i think i might have shared this once or twice before but here goes again:

when i was in this one correctional facility a dude had a shirt that read:

DON'T BRO ME
IF YOU DON'T KNOW ME