View Full Version : Pumpkins songs that rip off other artists


terrence
10-21-2012, 03:26 PM
mel mag?

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moar?

Order 66
10-21-2012, 06:01 PM
daydream was supposed to be ripoff of my bloody valentine.

terrence
10-21-2012, 06:22 PM
any song in particular or just the style?

D.
10-21-2012, 06:46 PM
dang, now that you say it, i could totally imagine daydream on isn't anything

duovamp
10-21-2012, 08:42 PM
Half the songs on Zeitgeist are Sum-41 rip offs.

Butt Pope
10-21-2012, 08:54 PM
Tear garden is a ripoff of somebody farting in a coffee can.

he/she/it
10-21-2012, 09:54 PM
Half the songs on Zeitgeist are Sum-41 rip offs.

Twitter that to the man.

Shallowed
10-21-2012, 11:08 PM
any song in particular or just the style?

Probably "Lose My Breath"

Radiofred
10-22-2012, 11:06 AM
Ted Nugent - Stranglehold

opera de nuit
10-22-2012, 11:40 AM
Probably "Lose My Breath"

or similarly, 'i can see it (but i can't feel it)'

New Art Rioter
10-22-2012, 02:13 PM
Translucent = Galaxie 500

terrence
10-22-2012, 06:57 PM
This is one of the clearest rip-offs I've ever heard.. Does this song remind anyone of a particular Siamese Dream single? I'm about 99% sure Corgan was quoted in an interview talking about this song being a copycat

Yeah but bill wrote SD first.

Razor:
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Never noticed how blatantly daydream rips off MBV before.

I remember bill admitting the Quiet riff was stolen from somewhere too but dont know which band.

hcueva
10-22-2012, 07:47 PM
How about this -->

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Cowlishaw
10-22-2012, 08:14 PM
Some people claim Cherub ripped-off Bytor and the Snowdog, but I've never been able to hear it.

slunken
10-22-2012, 10:39 PM
nobody has mentioned the pre-chorus "last night i turned around" from wound and cheap trick's "surrender"

slunken
10-22-2012, 10:42 PM
also landslide, dancing in the moonlight

houseofglass11
10-22-2012, 10:51 PM
Billy himself said he ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from By-Tor and the Snow Dog by Rush, listen at the 3:54 mark:
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reprise85
10-22-2012, 11:07 PM
wow that rush one

Reyngel
10-22-2012, 11:24 PM
Years back I asked Billy if 'Wound' was directly influenced by U2's 'Where the Streets Have No Name.' He took a step forward and said, "Whoa... I didn't think anyone would ever notice that. It was, good job." But as I was about to ask a follow-up question, someone else jumped in to ask him stuff.

So, Wound.

Reyngel
10-22-2012, 11:25 PM
nobody has mentioned the pre-chorus "last night i turned around" from wound and cheap trick's "surrender"


See my above post. Wound is actually a copy of U2's Where the Streets Have No Name, at least musically.

slunken
10-23-2012, 01:42 PM
okay i'll buy that but

the "last night i turned around" line that was added post-arising has also been confirmed as being ripped off of cheaptricks surrender

Rairun
10-23-2012, 04:26 PM
The melody in wound is also pretty similar to "If You Could Read My Mind" by Gordon Lightfoot.

The Omega Concern
10-24-2012, 12:54 PM
ummmm...

secrets: shhhhhh...


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dronestar
11-03-2012, 07:22 PM
Billy himself said he ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from By-Tor and the Snow Dog by Rush, listen at the 3:54 mark:
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Bill ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4

Couldn't be more obvious.

dronestar
11-03-2012, 07:30 PM
Also, ^^^ this.

Shocking.

Araneae
11-03-2012, 07:51 PM
Someone posted a thread about this song similarity before, scorpions darklady and tarantula.

emilem
11-04-2012, 04:00 AM
Bill ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4

Couldn't be more obvious.

he was indeed quite inspired by neu back then considering he tried to emulate hallogallo in starla as well

New Art Rioter
11-04-2012, 08:53 AM
Wow, that Neu song, yes completely!

pale_princess
11-04-2012, 10:24 AM
i thought when i was a teenager the opening riff of celebrity skin was bill's passive-aggressive way of getting back at collective soul. it doesn't sound unlike gel.

terrence
11-09-2012, 03:24 PM
Bill ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4

Couldn't be more obvious.

Yeah. Talk about a cross between Cherub Rock and Starla...

lucca
11-09-2012, 06:43 PM
INXS - Just Keep Walking chorus sounds similar to the Zero riff... listen at 0:30

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SPLATTER
11-09-2012, 07:26 PM
this is Cherub Rock

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SPLATTER
11-09-2012, 07:32 PM
At 3:28 "This Time" kicks in ... and, its true, Torn came out first

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RADIOHEADISGOD
11-11-2012, 07:40 AM
At about 1:14, "Tear" kicks in:

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Jelly Blossom
03-22-2015, 10:21 PM
Admittedly I'm late to the party, but I've seen a lot of posts reflecting on the similarities between "1979" and The Frogs' "Pleasure".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRto3kmtQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8BcubKDbE0

While that might (possibly) be up for debate, an obvious song that Billy ripped off lyrically is "We're An American Band" by Grand Funk Railroad with "Cash Car Star". Billy literally ripped the song off word for word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiBHfXnbyXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9KVcLCUek


What are some other Pumpkins songs where Billy obviously ripped off another song/artist?

Shallowed
03-22-2015, 10:54 PM
That's not ripping off, it's a reference. Artists do it all the time.

Off the top of my head, there's Pink Floyd's Let There Be More Light - "For there revealed in glowing robes was Lucy in the sky"

Shallowed
03-22-2015, 10:54 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=songs+that+quote+other+songs

NovaFritz
03-22-2015, 11:03 PM
In Corgan's celebration of Rush, he mentions ripping off parts of this song for Cherub Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UU62UcP_BA&spfreload=10

NovaFritz
03-22-2015, 11:17 PM
Also, the grunting at the end of Hairspray Queen. Billy is cribbin' the other scribe.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hWNjQD7FNXQ

Grox
03-23-2015, 02:16 AM
ooh la la by cheap trick and the chorus of cherub rock

Grox
03-23-2015, 02:17 AM
sd reissue liner notes, billco says the outro riff in rocket is cribbed from somewhere he'll never tell

dreams of glass
03-23-2015, 02:19 AM
The Television song Marquee Moon has the same chords as Cherub Rock.

https://youtu.be/jlbunmCbTBA?t=8m12s

I actually don't think Billy ripped it off intentionally, because it's actually just an ascending major scale. Sounds cool tho.

dodoz
03-23-2015, 07:04 AM
Duran Duran's "Hungry like the Wolf" in "Suffer".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX0PjxaEkLE&t=43s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHURp8xSK8&t=15s

FoolofaTook
03-23-2015, 08:31 AM
the main riff of toase is blatantly from the red hot chili peppers' all around the world we can make time rompin and a stompin cuz im in my prime

dodoz
03-23-2015, 11:59 AM
Billy said he wrote "Daydream", trying to write a song like My Bloody Valentine.

I think it's that song he used as a reference point. They are both very different though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAS9uY3-Fx8

Jelly Blossom
03-23-2015, 12:44 PM
That's not ripping off, it's a reference. Artists do it all the time.

Off the top of my head, there's Pink Floyd's Let There Be More Light - "For there revealed in glowing robes was Lucy in the sky"

If Billy had simply used the song title like Pink Floyd did with their Beatle reference then you might have an argument here, but instead Billy takes, line by line mind you, lyrics directly from GFR's "We're An American Band".

Quite frankly, Don Brewer would have a strong case in court against Billy if the song were to ever be commercially released.

Grox
03-23-2015, 12:56 PM
If Billy had simply used the song title like Pink Floyd did with their Beatle reference then you might have an argument here, but instead Billy takes, line by line mind you, lyrics directly from GFR's "We're An American Band".

Quite frankly, Don Brewer would have a strong case in court against Billy if the song were to ever be commercially released.

dude, it's a parody, cash car star is sung from the perspective of the Glass character or whatever, the reference and its reasons for being there are obvious. GFR are exactly the type of broad, obnoxious rock band that the song and the MACHINA concept (barf) are all about

Jelly Blossom
03-23-2015, 01:49 PM
dude, it's a parody, cash car star is sung from the perspective of the Glass character or whatever, the reference and its reasons for being there are obvious. GFR are exactly the type of broad, obnoxious rock band that the song and the MACHINA concept (barf) are all about

I'm not buying the parody theory. It's word for word. It's a ripoff.

Shallowed
03-23-2015, 04:27 PM
What, the words "Lucy in the sky" don't appear in the lyrics of "Lucy in the sky with diamonds"?

Did you not realise that that's the only example of this occurring either? Did you read any of those links in that Google search?

Grox
03-23-2015, 06:12 PM
bill references the beatles in Today - "I wanna turn you on"

dodoz
03-23-2015, 06:20 PM
WILLIAM said he stole the riff of "Quiet" to some band...I don't know who.

bunny
03-24-2015, 07:16 AM
is there anything billy didn't rip off?

dodoz
03-24-2015, 10:08 AM
sd reissue liner notes, billco says the outro riff in rocket is cribbed from somewhere he'll never tell

Queen ? He said there was some Queen on that album, and it's a bit Brian May-esque...I wouldn't know which song though, if it's Queen at all.

slunken
03-24-2015, 10:31 AM
I'm not buying the parody theory. It's word for word. It's a ripoff.

Songs that quote other songs are very common.

And no it's not parody either

slunken
03-24-2015, 10:34 AM
http://www.amiright.com/real/songartist/

Mals Marola
03-24-2015, 02:27 PM
bill references the beatles in Today - "I wanna turn you on"

ok this is ridiculous

might as well say he was paying homage to them when he sang "HELLO, goodbye, YOU KNOW you made us cry" in Shame

not every matching word is a reference or rip off, lol

Grox
03-24-2015, 03:43 PM
ok this is ridiculous

might as well say he was paying homage to them when he sang "HELLO, goodbye, YOU KNOW you made us cry" in Shame

not every matching word is a reference or rip off, lol

melody is similar in both examples, positive the references passed thru bills head when he wrote both today and shame

houseofglass11
03-24-2015, 04:08 PM
WILLIAM said he stole the riff of "Quiet" to some band...I don't know who.

Bill was a big fan of Bad Brains and this song has a riff that is similar (though more complex than "Quiet") and a similar drum intro:
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dreams of glass
03-24-2015, 04:11 PM
Bill was a big fan of Bad Brains and this song has a riff that is similar (though more complex than "Quiet") and a similar drum intro:
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haha, wow, I like the BB song better than Quiet

Shallowed
03-24-2015, 07:42 PM
positive the references passed thru bills head when he wrote both today and shame

No, you're not positive, you've just imagined a scenario and then assumed it must be true.

Eulogy
03-24-2015, 08:17 PM
I'm not buying the parody theory. It's word for word. It's a ripoff.

Are you 12 or just very dim

Jelly Blossom
03-25-2015, 12:14 AM
Are you 12 or just very dim

Is there really a need for this?

Quite frankly the fact that you would even post something like this doesn't even dignify a response.

dreams of glass
03-25-2015, 12:32 AM
Welcome to Netphoria

Jelly Blossom
03-25-2015, 12:50 AM
Welcome to Netphoria

Unfortunately. :-(

dreams of glass
03-31-2015, 12:22 AM
Billy himself said he ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from By-Tor and the Snow Dog by Rush, listen at the 3:54 mark:
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that fucking rules!

I've listened to by-tor before but never noticed that