Eulogy
02-26-2015, 09:31 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue
View Full Version : Black/blue or white/gold? Eulogy 02-26-2015, 09:31 PM http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue Shallowed 02-26-2015, 09:35 PM What the hell is going on here, how are people seeing it as different colours? To me it's clearly black and blue, anything else would be like saying that bananas are purple or something. Sonic Johnny 02-26-2015, 09:39 PM And i'm seeing it clear as day as white and gold and no matter how hard i look I can't get it to change. What the fuck. Shallowed 02-26-2015, 09:40 PM Euls you should have made this a poll Sonic Johnny 02-26-2015, 09:44 PM I just showed this to one of my housemates and she was adamant that it's blue and an off-green brown colour. Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 09:44 PM its just bad lighting, probs white yo soy el mejor 02-26-2015, 09:47 PM ochre & nacre Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:00 PM It's definitely black and blue. slunken 02-26-2015, 10:09 PM white and gold what sppunk 02-26-2015, 10:09 PM White and gold. The white has a hue that o guess some can say blue. If that's black I was raised as an inner city kid without parents. TuralyonW3 02-26-2015, 10:12 PM This is just a thing where people fuck with each other right? slunken 02-26-2015, 10:13 PM This is just a thing where people fuck with each other right? i'm pretty sure someone is going to end up getting called "gay" Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:17 PM This is just a thing where people fuck with each other right? I tried to think of how that could be possible and I don't think it can be. I'm just surprised a correct and logical explanation hasn't floated to the top of the Internet by now. sppunk 02-26-2015, 10:19 PM https://twitter.com/oxygenplug/status/571126163998941185 says it isn't available in white /gold Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 10:21 PM glad we got to the bottom of #colorgate its abt ethics Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 10:21 PM it's a white and gold dress shot under low blue light the actual depicted colours are not white and gold Sonic Johnny 02-26-2015, 10:22 PM I just got to Uni and showe this I some of my classmates and now there's a large-scale argument occurring Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:24 PM it's a white and gold dress shot under low blue light the actual depicted colours are not white and gold Does that explain why people perceive it so differently? TuralyonW3 02-26-2015, 10:25 PM Yeah I'm getting freaked out cuz I see white and gold and now the wife says she sees the gold as black WTF sppunk 02-26-2015, 10:26 PM Yeah I'm getting freaked out cuz I see white and gold and now the wife says she sees the gold as black WTF Tilt the screen at a harsh angle. Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:26 PM Two friends group texted me asking and when one of them said he saw white and gold I asked him how he never knew he was that colorblind ????? Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:27 PM Tilt the screen at a harsh angle. I've done that. And adjusted the brightness with the picture up. always black and blue Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 10:30 PM this dress thing is already at obnoxious meme levels even nba guys are tweeting abt it what the fuck who caaaaarrrreeeesssss TuralyonW3 02-26-2015, 10:32 PM I can't see the gold as black using multiple methods and settings on multiple screens Sonic Johnny 02-26-2015, 10:32 PM Dude I think it's pretty reasonable for people to be fascinated by this. Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 10:33 PM Does that explain why people perceive it so differently? well, if i look at it as pixels on a screen, i see blue and dirty dark yellow if i look at it as a photo of a dress, i see white and gold, because that's what the shadows and lighting in the rest of the photo implies basically it's a matter of how much context your brain applies by default although i don't get how anyone would detect black in there; the colour values are too bright. compare with the garments in the left background. that's got black in it reprise85 02-26-2015, 10:34 PM white/gold Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 10:34 PM Dude I think it's pretty reasonable for people to be fascinated by this. fascinated by bad lighting? Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:37 PM well, if i look at it as pixels on a screen, i see blue and dirty dark yellow if i look at it as a photo of a dress, i see a white and gold, because that's what the shadows and lighting in the rest of the photo implies basically it's a matter of how much context your brain applies by default although i don't get how anyone would detect black in there; the colour values are too bright. compare with the garments in the left background. that's got black in it A lot of people see black sppunk 02-26-2015, 10:39 PM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-0Des3UAAE7nTZ.png reprise85 02-26-2015, 10:39 PM White and gold. The white has a hue that o guess some can say blue. If that's black I was raised as an inner city kid without parents. yeah this Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 10:41 PM its black and blue its on the website Shallowed 02-26-2015, 10:43 PM So basically everyone that sees it as white/gold is colour blind? Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 10:45 PM A lot of people see black compare it to the neophoria page background still black? Rairun 02-26-2015, 10:46 PM White/gold with bad white balance (blueish hue). I shouldn't even be posting this because it's pretty obvious that the people who say they see black are trolling. Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:48 PM compare it to the neophoria page background still black? Yes Maybe a dark charcoal TuralyonW3 02-26-2015, 10:50 PM White/gold with bad white balance (blueish hue). I shouldn't even be posting this because it's pretty obvious that the people who say they see black are trolling. Na, my wife is seeing black Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:53 PM http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00SJEUEJG/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/276-5013511-4521361 pavementtune 02-26-2015, 10:55 PM http://i.imgur.com/4EuTPLW.jpg Eulogy 02-26-2015, 10:56 PM Those look the exact same pavementtune 02-26-2015, 10:58 PM they are the same. take the one on the right - on a white background. the color of the dress is not white. take the one on the left - black background. look at the neckline of the dress. Rairun 02-26-2015, 11:00 PM http://i.imgur.com/8ScmKyW.png Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:01 PM They're both black and blue to me Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:03 PM They're both black and blue to me Same reprise85 02-26-2015, 11:03 PM http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00SJEUEJG/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/276-5013511-4521361 this one is blue and black. the other one is gold and off white Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:03 PM i think it's the presence of other colours around the dress that affects the brain's perceptual system if i block out the red on the right with my thumb (on my phone), it looks like an overexposed blue and black my hunch is that the different light sources in the foreground and background create an optical illusion. the more your visual hardware relies on context from the surroundings to detect colour, i'm guessing, the likelier you are to see it as white and gold i very much doubt it has anything to do with colour blindness; i thought it was white/gold earlier and i have good colour perception (for a guy, anyway) Rairun 02-26-2015, 11:04 PM What the hell, it changed. reprise85 02-26-2015, 11:04 PM you're saying these two are the same colors? https://40.media.tumblr.com/a391a1b4b46dd6b498d379e50f96ecbc/tumblr_nkcjuq8Tdr1tnacy1o1_500.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tKeXTE3eL.jpg Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:05 PM I've blocked out all of the surroundings. Still clearly black and blue as it has always been for me. I don't think its color blindness either. But I don't know what it is. Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:06 PM you're saying these two are the same colors? http://i.imgur.com/4EuTPLW.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tKeXTE3eL.jpg That's not what I meant but yeah they could easily be the same dress in different lighting. One picture is professional and shit. Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:07 PM What the hell, it changed. fucking solved it NEXT, internet Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:08 PM http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/is-this-black-and-blue-dress-in-fact-black-and-blue-1688342943 Look at the first comment Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:09 PM fucking solved it NEXT, internet People have been telling me that for a while now. "It deals with perception" isn't really a satisfactory answer. Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:11 PM you're saying these two are the same colors? https://40.media.tumblr.com/a391a1b4b46dd6b498d379e50f96ecbc/tumblr_nkcjuq8Tdr1tnacy1o1_500.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tKeXTE3eL.jpg I was referring to the side by side that pavement posted Yours are the same colours, but under different lighting. The bottom one is more vividly black and blue, the top one is washed out like the contrast is turned way down. reprise85 02-26-2015, 11:12 PM http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/is-this-black-and-blue-dress-in-fact-black-and-blue-1688342943 Look at the first comment Is that really what we are talking about, if the picture is super over exposed? Because I guess it could be, if it was purposefully done to make it look gold and white. I didn't think we were arguing about the quality of the lighting... can we agree that the lighting makes it LOOK gold and white? Honestly this whole thing is weird. Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:14 PM With my limited photo editing powers, I turned up the contrast and saturation and turned down the gamma Does anyone still see this as gold/white? http://i.imgur.com/IPiJmJG.jpg Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:18 PM Is that really what we are talking about, if the picture is super over exposed? Because I guess it could be, if it was purposefully done to make it look gold and white. I didn't think we were arguing about the quality of the lighting... can we agree that the lighting makes it LOOK gold and white? Honestly this whole thing is weird. Absolutely not. Just not as vivid blue and black. reprise85 02-26-2015, 11:18 PM Yeah now it's obviously blue. The question is how some of us can perceive that with the original photo and some can't. I mean, if you just check the colors like pavementtune did, the 'black' is brown... so what gives? Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:19 PM How can someone still believe in a divine benevolent omnipotent creator after this pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:19 PM shallowed, do you still see the color in this picture as black? http://i.imgur.com/39UQPaE.jpg LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:19 PM Black and Blue. Lots of colorblind people on this thread Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:19 PM Yeah now it's obviously blue. The question is how some of us can perceive that with the original photo and some can't. I mean, if you just check the colors like pavementtune did, the 'black' is brown... so what gives? There's shitty light shining on it. reprise85 02-26-2015, 11:20 PM Absolutely not. Just not as vivid blue and black. Okay. I just don't see it at all, I guess my color perception is not as good as yours. Not sure if that sounds like me being snippy with you, so I should clarify that I'm not trying to be. I just don't see the black at all. sppunk 02-26-2015, 11:20 PM http://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/this-might-explain-why-that-dress-looks-blue-and-black-and-w#.tyZKzk2KZ Explains it a bit more Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:20 PM shallowed, do you still see the color in this picture as black? http://i.imgur.com/39UQPaE.jpg I do. A color swatch can't re-create what fabric looks like in shitty retail lighting in a bad picture. reprise85 02-26-2015, 11:20 PM There's shitty light shining on it. So those who can't see it as blue/black are not as good at filtering out bad lighting? Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:21 PM Okay. I just don't see it at all, I guess my color perception is not as good as yours. Not sure if that sounds like me being snippy with you, so I should clarify that I'm not trying to be. It legit troubles me that I don't see the black at all. I'm not sure I'm right. I'm not sure about anything. yo soy el mejor 02-26-2015, 11:21 PM thanks to erica i found the other dresses on amazon. i think you're all wrong. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roman-Womens-Detail-Bodycon-Dress/dp/B00SJETV4U/ref=sr_1_1?s=clothing&ie=UTF8&qid=1425007058&sr=1-1&keywords=Roman+Women%27s+Lace+Detail+Bodycon+Dress pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:21 PM It legit troubles me that I don't see the black at all. you can't see black because there is no black. the actual dress, yes, but not on the picture that was up for discussion. Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:21 PM So those who can't see it as blue/black are not as good at filtering out bad lighting? No idea! I just know what I see. pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:23 PM I do. A color swatch can't re-create what fabric looks like in shitty retail lighting in a bad picture. we are talking about two totally different things. nobody is arguing what the color of the actual dress is supposed to be. it's about what color it turns into on this photograph. didn't you guys have light on retina light on screen bla bla shit in school, I mean I don't know what's confusing, I honestly don't. yo soy el mejor 02-26-2015, 11:23 PM maybe her black n blue dress got bleached. Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:23 PM shallowed, do you still see the color in this picture as black? http://i.imgur.com/39UQPaE.jpg Not as black as that black square obviously, but yes it is black. yo soy el mejor 02-26-2015, 11:24 PM this argument is fuuuun! LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:24 PM This is a similar reason as why superhero costumes from films always have weird colors in shots off the set and how they look on film under movie lights. yo soy el mejor 02-26-2015, 11:25 PM http://mrsgrapevine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Jonathan-Lipnicki-Jerry-MacGuire.jpg pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:25 PM not as black as black, huh. I give up. http://i.imgur.com/8ScmKyW.png pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:26 PM This is a similar reason as why superhero costumes from films always have weird colors in shots off the set and how they look on film under movie lights. in other words - light temperature hnibos 02-26-2015, 11:27 PM I saw it as black and blue then went to another website and for a split second I saw it clearly as white and gold and then I scrolled down and it's been black blue ever since. Mina 02-26-2015, 11:27 PM Light blue and gold LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:27 PM in other words - light temperature and how fabrics reflect light giving the impression of distorted color, yes pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:28 PM yes! but what is it they are arguing about? Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:28 PM we are talking about two totally different things. nobody is arguing what the color of the actual dress is supposed to be. it's about what color it turns into on this photograph. didn't you guys have light on retina light on screen bla bla shit in school, I mean I don't know what's confusing, I honestly don't. People are absolutely talking about the actual color of the dress. And I see black and blue in the picture. Don't be so definitive. Read some more Internet. pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:30 PM Read some more Internet. about the color of a real - as in fabric in daylight - dress nobody has seen? yea, no. read about color spectrums and light, maybe? LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:30 PM I see the boat! Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:32 PM I'm not arguing I'm telling you that a lot of people are saying that the dress is actually white and gold. Please read. pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:33 PM I see the boat AND the light! it's been fun. http://img.designswan.com/2010/09/PouringLight/3.jpg Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:33 PM we are talking about two totally different things. nobody is arguing what the color of the actual dress is supposed to be. it's about what color it turns into on this photograph. They are different things, yes.. but I think I'm arguing what the colour of the dress actually is AND what it appears in the photo, shitty lighting and filtering and all, which is what you're asking about specifically. I guess my eyes are just accounting for all that, and I am seeing it as blue and black, albeit not as vividly as it truly is because of the lighting and everything. pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:34 PM I'm not arguing I'm telling you that a lot of people are saying that the dress is actually white and gold. Please read. ah okay, well then they shouldn't scroll from top to bottom when looking at it? Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:35 PM Like a black surface can appear to be all manner of shades depending on how bright the environment is, but you can still see that it is black, right? Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:36 PM I've blocked out all of the surroundings. Still clearly black and blue as it has always been for me. I don't think its color blindness either. But I don't know what it is. the more you block out the background, the more black/blue it'll look LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:36 PM I like how seemingly the ENTIRE internet is talking about this dress. This picture should be in a museum! Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:41 PM the more you block out the background, the more black/blue it'll look Well it is also black and blue when I dont. Tell pavementune you think it's a gold and white dress Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:42 PM People have been telling me that for a while now. "It deals with perception" isn't really a satisfactory answer. i did actually offer a possible explanation: my hunch is that the different light sources in the foreground and background create an optical illusion. the more your visual hardware relies on context from the surroundings to detect colour, i'm guessing, the likelier you are to see it as white and gold let me try to rephrase now that i'm not tapping out replies on my phone for a given scene, if foreground/focus colour perception is influenced by background/non-focus colour information, and the strength of that influence varies between individuals, then we should expect this kind of optical illusion to occur, and for different viewers to report different interpretations sample of one, but i saw white/gold initially, but when i started blocking out parts of the background, my perception changed. that tells me the background information is creating a false context for me, and i assume for others who see white/gold i'd be interested to try modifying the background colours (e.g., warming them up significantly) while leaving the dress as-is to see if your brain can be prompted to see it as white/gold Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:43 PM You both seem to be saying the rest of us are dumb for completely incompatible reasons. Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:43 PM i seriously do not get this Mooney 02-26-2015, 11:43 PM i only altered the white balance and exposure. http://i.imgur.com/jkJseZS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/d79Y6c8.jpg Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:44 PM by this i mean the near universal interest Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:45 PM i seriously do not get this Nobody does and no one who claims to has come close to convincing me Lol well nevermind Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:45 PM the four pages, the number of ppl in this thread its like the internet never noticed a badly lit picture before pavementtune 02-26-2015, 11:45 PM where is TOC? I need to know what's going that they needed to cover up, and meanwhile distract us with a dress! LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:46 PM I seriously got like 4 texts of people talking about this. it's insane Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:46 PM I think it's because we take our sense of sight for granted because barring certain exceptions it doesn't fail us. Eulogy 02-26-2015, 11:46 PM the four pages, the number of ppl in this thread its like the internet never noticed a badly lit picture before That's not all it is. Surely you get that by now. What color do you think the dress is? LaBelle 02-26-2015, 11:46 PM there are tons of optical illusions out there Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:47 PM Also it takes less than a second to view this and form an opinion Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:47 PM Well it is also black and blue when I dont. well of course it is, there's no reason why removing information should work in reverse for people who already see it as blue/black if we both lift a bag of flour and i think it's heavy and you don't, removing some of the flour isn't going to make you think it's heavy Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:49 PM You both seem to be saying the rest of us are dumb for completely incompatible reasons. is that directed at me? i don't understand how you get that from what i wrote Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:50 PM I think it's because we take our sense of sight for granted because barring certain exceptions it doesn't fail us. it does all the time Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:51 PM fata morgana bruh TuralyonW3 02-26-2015, 11:53 PM I think it's because we take our sense of sight for granted because barring certain exceptions it doesn't fail us. Yup window the the world and whatnot Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:54 PM also its a pic on a shitty phone camera i thought that explained everything. colors often look off in pics. ever try to take a pic of a pretty sunset Trotskilicious 02-26-2015, 11:54 PM or your dick? Elvis The Fat Years 02-26-2015, 11:55 PM i hope this is the start of more buzzfeed links on netphoria. sppunk 02-26-2015, 11:56 PM I think it's because we take our sense of sight for granted because barring certain exceptions it doesn't fail us. Honestly a a blind dude this makes me smile knowing people are pissed they can't see something others can. Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:56 PM also its a pic on a shitty phone camera i thought that explained everything. colors often look off in pics. ever try to take a pic of a pretty sunset i think in this scenario your point of view is the guy who says "what's the point of taking a picture of a sunset, it's just the earth rotating on its axis and it happens every day" Shallowed 02-26-2015, 11:57 PM also its a pic on a shitty phone camera i thought that explained everything. colors often look off in pics. ever try to take a pic of a pretty sunset I absolutely agree that the colour looks off, but still no matter how hard I try I can't see it as anything other than blue and black, and it's weird that some people look at it and instantly think "yep, that's gold and white" even accounting for a badly taken picture in poor lighting also let us have our fun Lucky Day Spa 02-26-2015, 11:58 PM it's interesting because it's a) divisive, b) a prompt to think about the way our senses are unreliable and can be fooled, and c) kind of a simple-to-understand-but-hard-to-explain puzzle Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:00 AM That's not all it is. Surely you get that by now. What color do you think the dress is? Trots why won't you answer this question Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:01 AM is that directed at me? i don't understand how you get that from what i wrote You said "oh it's obvious it's x" and she said "it's obvious it's y" and they're mutually exclusive while the rest of us (outside trots I guess) are legitimately confused. Lucky Day Spa 02-27-2015, 12:02 AM yeah t-lish what are you hiding t-lish Lucky Day Spa 02-27-2015, 12:07 AM You said "oh it's obvious it's x" and she said "it's obvious it's y" and they're mutually exclusive while the rest of us (outside trots I guess) are legitimately confused. i don't think it's obvious what it is – i thought it was obviously white/gold at first, after all, and now i think i was wrong about that. i'm now almost certain it's blue/black, and that my perception misfired, probably due to the background colour information i'm only interested in understanding/speculating why different people see different things. definitely not calling anybody stupid LaBelle 02-27-2015, 12:08 AM Optical illusions don't have anything to do with intelligence. I'm pretty sure about that LaBelle 02-27-2015, 12:09 AM But I'm one of those black/blue people Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:11 AM Usually when I'm presented with an optical illusion there is an explanation accompanying it WHERE IS IT Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:11 AM i don't think it's obvious what it is – i thought it was obviously white/gold at first, after all, and now i think i was wrong about that. i'm now almost certain it's blue/black, and that my perception misfired, probably due to the background colour information i'm only interested in understanding/speculating why different people see different things. definitely not calling anybody stupid Ok, my misperception then. Sorry. Lucky Day Spa 02-27-2015, 12:16 AM Ok, my misperception then. Sorry. you punny cad Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:17 AM Lol Order 66 02-27-2015, 12:21 AM there's no way in hell i could perceive blue and black from that. but i'm brain damaged so LaBelle 02-27-2015, 12:21 AM Sppunk posted a pretty reasonable explanation on page 1 Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 12:25 AM Trots why won't you answer this question i already said earlier but its blue and black, black is off color because bad light/flash/sunlight Lucky Day Spa 02-27-2015, 12:26 AM Sppunk posted a pretty reasonable explanation on page 1 if that explanation were valid, it wouldn't be possible to change one's perception wired has a better write-up: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ D. 02-27-2015, 12:27 AM if that explanation were valid, it wouldn't be possible to change one's perception wired has a better write-up: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ I was #teamgoldandwhite until I saw this same article. Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:27 AM i already said earlier but its blue and black, black is off color because bad light/flash/sunlight That's also what I think Many, many, many people do not see that. It's obviously not just an inability to judge bad lighting. Or I guess maybe it is. In which case I am right and woooo pavementtune 02-27-2015, 12:28 AM i'm only interested in understanding/speculating why different people see different things. definitely not calling anybody stupid what do you think would happen if this picture wouldn't come with only two options - telling people right away what colors they are supposed to see? say show the picture, give them a choice to click two shades out of twenty. Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 12:29 AM that is a GREAT question pavementtune 02-27-2015, 12:31 AM just skimmed this http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ So people either discount the blue side, in which case they end up seeing white and gold, or discount the gold side, in which case they end up with blue and black.” (Conway sees blue and orange, somehow.)that was my instant problem, I went looking for another picture, because I couldn't see any black, and not any white - so I couldn't go with either of the two choices. Eulogy 02-27-2015, 12:35 AM what do you think would happen if this picture wouldn't come with only two options - telling people right away what colors they are supposed to see? say show the picture, give them a choice to click two shades out of twenty. That's how I initially said black and blue. Friends sent me the picture and asked what color I saw. I answered immediately complete with confusion as to why I was being asked. TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 12:37 AM Man even when I see the treated images that adjust the hue toward blue, it still skews white/gold to my eyes Mooney 02-27-2015, 12:37 AM also, you need to ask either what color do you think this dress is actually, or what color do you see in this extremely fucked up photo? because it was proven earlier that that photo depicts many shades of gold, and a blueish off-white. that's not really subjective. what color is this dress? green/black or blue and black? http://i.imgur.com/lobWGSA.jpg TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 12:39 AM Light and dark green The exploding boy 02-27-2015, 12:44 AM White that looks blueish because of lighting and gold. I once years ago did some sort of color test. There was a bunch of questions abut colors shown on the screen and then they rated how right you were. I got a 100% and that was pretty rare. The quewtion to me is how anyone can see black. Black is really far form either gold or white or blue. Well not if it was REALLY dark blue yeah, but it's not supposed to be. Lucky Day Spa 02-27-2015, 12:53 AM what do you think would happen if this picture wouldn't come with only two options - telling people right away what colors they are supposed to see? say show the picture, give them a choice to click two shades out of twenty. i have no idea, but that would be more scientific Mooney 02-27-2015, 12:59 AM the color temperature of this photo is the thing that is fucked up and messing with people's perception. it's most prevalent in this photo because there is no context - the background is completely blown out so you can't draw any colour familiarity with any objects. if this photo--in a similar state of fucked-up-ness--included the face of a person wearing it, not a single person would say the dress is gold and white, they would say that person's face is orange...this picture is fucked. TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 01:24 AM Ok I'm freaked out...this photo now looks blue/black to me https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-0PqG2VIAE5QaB.jpg TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 01:25 AM Keeps shifting back and forth actually...more blue/black the farther the image is scaled back Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 01:32 AM well either way my butt would look FANTASTIC in it Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 01:37 AM http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tKeXTE3eL.jpg hot as shit bignothing 02-27-2015, 01:38 AM white/gold when i saw it last night. now at 6:30am, after a sleepless night, it's black/blue. i guess i needed tired eyes. or it's like that spinning girl that spins whichever direction i want her to (though i thought everyone could do that with some focus?) don't know, dress is ugly. Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 01:41 AM disagree! but i don't like blue/black that much bignothing 02-27-2015, 01:47 AM i kinda dislike any dress that is this tight, i guess. a-line lace dresses are all i wear, which reminds me i need to find a new red or burgundy one. i hope my eyesight is good enough that i haven't been going places wearing freaking orange dresses. bignothing 02-27-2015, 01:47 AM orange is the worst color Mals Marola 02-27-2015, 01:54 AM orange is great what are you talking about http://i.imgur.com/8ScmKyW.png yeah, it's pretty much been proved here & with the accompanying "actual site image" & "some other girl wearing it" thing hasn't it? thing was either taken in some kinda goldish-brown light, tampered with afterward or taken with a lensed camera if it was some kinda changing image that actually swapped out the colors at various times for various regions or something it'd be another thing but i don't know if that's even possible?? Mals Marola 02-27-2015, 01:57 AM orange may be the second worst starburst... but it's a hell of a color! http://media.giphy.com/media/k7K48NJ7qlko8/giphy.gif Elphenor 02-27-2015, 02:56 AM I was just shown this at work by a customer and I thought it was exclusive to them like some potheads messing with me and now I just got home and it's all over the internet. So trippy. And it's obviously white and gold TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 03:12 AM http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesish/help-am-i-going-insane-its-definitely-blue now the original link that I couldn't imagine seeing as black/blue is strong black/blue :eek: anyone else seeing it strongly both ways tonight? It's freaky when it changes within a matter of 10 seconds... yo soy el mejor 02-27-2015, 03:16 AM I was just shown this at work by a customer and I thought it was exclusive to them like some potheads messing with me and now I just got home and it's all over the internet. So trippy. And it's obviously white and gold where do you work? TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 03:16 AM A and B are the exact same shade: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/26/22/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-19524-1425006148-16.png Elphenor 02-27-2015, 03:22 AM Homegoods The overwhelming majority see white and gold but apparently the dress is blue and black in weird lighting. Multiple people looking on the same screen see it as different so it's not a "what type of monitor do you have" thing like I immediately thought. TuralyonW3 02-27-2015, 03:27 AM uh welcome to page 6? Elphenor 02-27-2015, 03:28 AM http://www.buzzfeed.com/virginiahughes/why-are-people-seeing-different-colors-in-that-damn-dress "Interestingly, scientists don’t know much about individual differences in perception, Riener said." Like even Scientists can only give a vague answer of "People see things differently" Really, really, fascinating Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 04:13 AM <img src="http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/blogs/lists/Archer-gang-19.jpg"> omg like DUH Shallowed 02-27-2015, 04:26 AM Both of these appear black and blue to me, the one on the left just appears paler. http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/dress_color.png Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 04:45 AM it's weird how you say that when the picture is on a black background so you can easily tell the difference but ur vision is fucked Shallowed 02-27-2015, 04:49 AM They're not the same shade, and like I said it is much paler Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 04:51 AM pale black huh like gray? Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 04:52 AM <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4IUNc6yxp2g?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Shallowed 02-27-2015, 05:29 AM I'm siding with Archer on this one Shallowed 02-27-2015, 05:29 AM What colour is this? http://i.imgur.com/wtO1wVn.jpg The exploding boy 02-27-2015, 05:52 AM All I need to do is i see colors right and everybody else is wrong unless they see them like me. The exploding boy 02-27-2015, 05:55 AM I remember as a kid when i had the revelation that perhaps everyone's favorite color si the same, they just see it differently. Well then i realised the concept of favorite color was kinda silly though when i grew up. I remember when all my tshirts were black.... now i got all the colors of the rainbow. Elphenor 02-27-2015, 06:13 AM What colour is this? http://i.imgur.com/wtO1wVn.jpg Is Fucking Awesome a color? Rairun 02-27-2015, 06:45 AM When I said that it changed from white/gold to blue/black, I was lying. I was entirely convinced this was an elaborate ruse, so I was playing along. There is no way I can see the white parts (which admittedly have a white balance problem, with a blueish hue) as dark blue. And the gold parts are not at all black to me. Now I am (sort of) convinced people actually see blue/black. Wtf. Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 07:05 AM To me it's blue and a sort of dull gold teh b0lly!!1 02-27-2015, 07:19 AM i have tried every possible method suggested here - blocking out the background, squinting, scaling it down, etc. to me it's white and gold. never changed for an instance, too. and i obsess over colors a lot because i paint. white will almost always have a blueish tint to it, so that's fine. but although i tried i just don't see how folks perceive the gold to be black. black is black. is an obtuse color, and even when lit, like with creases and folds, it turns grey - definitely not orange or beige. it's just too bright and has too much variation between different hues to be black. this is weird Elphenor 02-27-2015, 07:29 AM Yeah "it's not even close to black" was my first thought as well along with all my fellow white and gold brethren Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 07:31 AM http://www.snopes.com/info/news/mysterydress.asp Still doesn't give me a satisfactory explanation Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 07:42 AM Although, according to that aren't I seeing it correctly? It's meant to be a light blue and a kind of gold, which is what I see Eulogy 02-27-2015, 07:43 AM I thought the wired article handled it Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 07:44 AM Oh, I haven't looked at all of of this thread Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 07:45 AM Reading the wired article now Rairun 02-27-2015, 07:48 AM i have tried every possible method suggested here - blocking out the background, squinting, scaling it down, etc. to me it's white and gold. never changed for an instance, too. and i obsess over colors a lot because i paint. white will almost always have a blueish tint to it, so that's fine. but although i tried i just don't see how folks perceive the gold to be black. black is black. is an obtuse color, and even when lit, like with creases and folds, it turns grey - definitely not orange or beige. it's just too bright and has too much variation between different hues to be black. this is weird I see it as white and gold too. I suppose I could interpret the gold as gray if I thought the white balance was very warm, but that's impossible because the part I interpret as white has a cold cast. So I suppose that yes, if you adjusted the color balance so that the gold looked gray, then the white part would be even bluer. The reason why I STILL can't see it is not the hue, it's the lightness. The white/blue part looks too light to be dark blue. Even if we reduced exposure so that gray became black, I wouldn't expect the blue parts to look as dark as in the actual dress. Rairun 02-27-2015, 08:03 AM What I'm saying is that I can't make this picture look like the other pictures of the dress just by adjusting the white balance and exposure. I'd have to mess with curves and apply very different adjustments to the blacks, shadows, whites and highlights. LaBelle 02-27-2015, 08:06 AM Just woke up and I still see it as black/blue. LaBelle 02-27-2015, 10:13 AM My co-worker thinks it's blue/gold. lol bignothing 02-27-2015, 10:26 AM Mine just switches back and forth, though it's most often white/gold. I guess with the gif below the switch happens for everyone? http://i.imgur.com/XnsgxSM.gif Eulogy 02-27-2015, 10:36 AM Nope. Always black and blue. LaBelle 02-27-2015, 11:15 AM always black/blue for me too Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 11:42 AM always blue and gold pavementtune 02-27-2015, 01:25 PM since this is STILL all over, even my middle-schooler nephew brought this up. and said "duhuh, observer metameric failure is so much more interesting." - I had to look it up. is this how parents feel when they can't help their kids with homework any longer? darby 02-27-2015, 01:55 PM http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/27/the-dress-blue-black-white-gold-sales-color/ /thread darby 02-27-2015, 01:58 PM has this been answered in here already? anyway i still see it as white and gold. i guess i'm broken darby 02-27-2015, 02:00 PM . Eulogy 02-27-2015, 02:38 PM I thought after a while id see where the white and gold people are coming from But I can't. Not even a little bit. Rider 02-27-2015, 02:50 PM I thought after a while id see where the white and gold people are coming from But I can't. Not even a little bit. When I quickly see certain really washed out versions of the pic for the first few seconds I see the white and gold but then can't see it at all anymore. hnibos 02-27-2015, 04:19 PM I see an obvious black and blue in all three of those pictures. Rairun 02-27-2015, 04:52 PM OK, after playing with it in Lightroom, I can see how it could be blue/black. I still think the original, without any other reference, looks white and gold. Seeing blue/black was particularly hard because the background is pretty much all overblown, so it was hard to notice how off the color balance really was. Also, replacing the background with a field in a sunny day only made it harder for me to see it. http://i.imgur.com/r5FTL6k.jpg Rider 02-27-2015, 05:14 PM OK, after playing with it in Lightroom, I can see how it could be blue/black. I still think the original, without any other reference, looks white and gold. Seeing blue/black was particularly hard because the background is pretty much all overblown, so it was hard to notice how off the color balance really was. Also, replacing the background with a field in a sunny day only made it harder for me to see it. http://i.imgur.com/r5FTL6k.jpg Everyone need to stop saying things like "could be blue/black." We know the dress is blue and black, and we know when you isolate sections of the image they are blue and black. It's an optical illusion that works on some people and not on others. there is no question though that the colors are blue and black. Mals Marola 02-27-2015, 05:17 PM i just think one too many people have a very lenient definition for what they call "black" MyOneAndOnly 02-27-2015, 05:19 PM http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-05/enhanced/webdr08/28/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-23298-1401296978-8.gif MyOneAndOnly 02-27-2015, 05:21 PM which square is darker? place your thumb in the middle between the two squares https://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/optical-illusion-same-gray-color-thumb-over-middle.jpg Elphenor 02-27-2015, 05:36 PM I have been shown this shit multiple times today. I think there are multiple versions of the dress being shown. One time I saw it and it was obviously white and gold, but with bad lighting making it look bluish but any idiot could be it was supposed to be white. Then I saw a completely different version where it was blue and black. It's different pictures floating around and someone is creating dress hysteria. No because people looking at the same picture on the same screen see it differently as well Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 05:43 PM Yep, my mum was round earlier and saw it as black and blue while I see the self-same picture as light blue and gold Elijah Moon 02-27-2015, 05:44 PM Also, my friend on Facebook showed it to her workmates on one screen and there were still differences of opinion. And a guy on the news showed it to random people on the street and their perceptions didn't all mesh The exploding boy 02-27-2015, 05:47 PM Everyone need to stop saying things like "could be blue/black." We know the dress is blue and black, and we know when you isolate sections of the image they are blue and black. It's an optical illusion that works on some people and not on others. there is no question though that the colors are blue and black. well not from the actual source no but there is no way for me to see this gold as black no matter how much i try. I believe if it's black its black, it look like gold no matter the lighting though. Like the three pics above all i see is gold. It's not even close to black. So it's still weird to me. Elphenor 02-27-2015, 05:50 PM Yeah it's so far from black to my eyes there isn't even an apt metaphor Elphenor 02-27-2015, 05:57 PM Well they see it as a scale. For me the farthest right is more blueish but still white and a darker gold but for sure not black. For those seeing blue and black the one on the left looks like a brighter blue and black I assume Rairun 02-27-2015, 05:58 PM Everyone need to stop saying things like "could be blue/black." We know the dress is blue and black, and we know when you isolate sections of the image they are blue and black. It's an optical illusion that works on some people and not on others. there is no question though that the colors are blue and black. No. We do know the real dress is blue and black, but we also know that the colors in the picture are light blue and yellow. That's not an optical illusion. When you isolate sections of the image, they are light blue and yellow. That's what photoshop says. If you see dark blue and black, that means your brain is adjusting the raw input to ignore a really massive color balance/overexposure problem. Elphenor 02-27-2015, 06:00 PM Yeah the color of the dress IN THIS PICTURE is white and gold. But the real thing is blue and black. I have no idea how it works that some people have the psychic ability to discern the real color of this dress from a picture showing them the wrong ones. hnibos 02-27-2015, 06:38 PM Wait a minute. I've seen all three versions of the picture, like in the picture I posted above. Are you saying that some people see all three as the same thing? Some peoples' eyes are stupid. I see an obvious black and blue in all those pictures and since the dress is actually black and blue I can only conclude that I'm better than you and you are a loser. You lose. Get over it. Eulogy 02-27-2015, 06:52 PM No. We do know the real dress is blue and black, but we also know that the colors in the picture are light blue and yellow. That's not an optical illusion. When you isolate sections of the image, they are light blue and yellow. That's what photoshop says. If you see dark blue and black, that means your brain is adjusting the raw input to ignore a really massive color balance/overexposure problem. Photoshop says that only when you isolate part of the black that obviously has light reflecting off of it. hnibos 02-27-2015, 06:54 PM Obvious to the better people Trotskilicious 02-27-2015, 07:07 PM SO FUCKING ANGRY ABOUT THIS!!! MyOneAndOnly 02-27-2015, 07:33 PM How bout everybody play Candy Crush and fuck off Elphenor 02-27-2015, 08:49 PM Punk as fuck LaBelle 02-27-2015, 09:12 PM how is this still going on? slunken 02-27-2015, 09:28 PM i'm pretty sure someone is going to end up getting called "gay" did this happen yet Elphenor 02-27-2015, 09:29 PM ur gay MyOneAndOnly 03-01-2015, 02:51 PM the invention of the color blue http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-blue-and-how-do-we-see-color-2015-2 ilikeplanets 03-01-2015, 08:08 PM i can see the dark as either gold or black depending on the background but i cannot see the other color as anything but blue. can't believe this though LaBelle 03-01-2015, 10:53 PM I saw a couple arguing LOUDLY about this today. It was pretty stupid |