View Full Version : Daniel Johns (Silverchair) solo album...


toase
01-28-2015, 11:10 PM
...sounds like Justin Timberlake meets Lorde

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(at least this single does)

Sonic Johnny
01-28-2015, 11:18 PM
this dude is the WORST

Sonic Johnny
01-28-2015, 11:19 PM
and this song is like some seventh rate fucking sub-Jamie Woon fucking James Blake clone.

toase
01-28-2015, 11:41 PM
Surprise poll: this or TFE??

Sonic Johnny
01-28-2015, 11:48 PM
That's a Catherine Wheel calibre comparison right there.

toase
01-29-2015, 12:32 AM
Wait, let me develop that a little bit...

both:
-are white males (accused of being homosexual)
-experienced success in the 90s singing about adolescent issues
-were guitarists and leaders of their bands
-dated a famous pop singers
-took credited for most of their bands songwriting
-were/are releasing their first solo album
-ventured though electronic music

There you go

Trotskilicious
01-29-2015, 12:43 AM
funny how long you can kick the can once you have one hit song

TuralyonW3
01-29-2015, 01:13 AM
MUST CLEANSE SHITTINESS

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fuzzyroes
01-29-2015, 01:23 AM
...sounds like Justin Timberlake meets Lorde

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(at least this single does)

Holy Christ. This is legitimately worse than that Chris Cornell album "Scream".

The exploding boy
01-29-2015, 01:34 AM
It's his black record. I mean i'd have assumed this was a black artist if i hadn't known.

The exploding boy
01-29-2015, 01:35 AM
Daniel "No Soul" Johns.

Sonic Johnny
01-29-2015, 02:20 AM
It's his black record. I mean i'd have assumed this was a black artist if i hadn't known.

Are you being funny or are you being a moron? I can't tell here.

fuzzyroes
01-29-2015, 03:30 AM
after a 2nd listen, it really does sound A LOT like Royals by Lorde. I'm surprised you guys aren't digging this.

The exploding boy
01-29-2015, 03:34 AM
Are you being funny or are you being a moron? I can't tell here.

Both.


But what i REALLY mean is he's doing soulful and smooth. The way some white guy from Australia (who use to o grunge/alt) can't pull off.

Sonic Johnny
01-29-2015, 05:16 AM
after a 2nd listen, it really does sound A LOT like Royals by Lorde. I'm surprised you guys aren't digging this.

yeah yeah we get it you don't know shit from clay. The joke has gotten old.

wHATcOLOR
01-29-2015, 01:10 PM
i am looking forward to hearing the album

scottytheoneand
01-29-2015, 03:49 PM
he reminds me of a grunge version Brian Vander Ark from The Verve Pipe

october
01-29-2015, 05:42 PM
Sounds like something I'd dig after listening to it 10 times or more. We'll see if I get that far.

That being said I'm looking forward to any potentially wicked tracks on his new album, he's usually good for at least a few good jams. I miss his metal but the voice will always be fun times.

Lucky Day Spa
01-29-2015, 06:18 PM
MUST CLEANSE SHITTINESS

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must say i prefer the new song

kind of amazing it's the same singer, that's quite the reinvention

Catherine Wheel
01-29-2015, 07:34 PM
Silverchair frontman doing alternative R&B. Wow I was really surprised. It does kind of sound like Jamie Woon. Whatever happened to Jamie Woon? He was supposed to be the UKs answer to the Weeknd and Frank Ocean. And just as he was getting big he disappeared.

Sonic Johnny
01-29-2015, 07:37 PM
What happened is he's terrible and everyone realised it.

Catherine Wheel
01-29-2015, 07:41 PM
His album Mirrorwriting is somewhat underwhelming. Lot of filler. But Night Air and Shoulda are great songs.

Sonic Johnny
01-29-2015, 07:45 PM
Anyway, Silverchair belong to the inner sanctum of the triple J illuminati so Daniel Johns will doubtless get endless radio rotation and second headline at every festival in Australia for the duration of the 2015/16 season. He'll crack top 10 in the hottest 100 next year. It's a terrible system.

noyen
01-29-2015, 07:53 PM
yeah don't make sense that CW didn't make this thread was my thought. the database must be b0rken. php halp monte it supervisor.

LaBelle
01-29-2015, 07:57 PM
That one song is better than Being Beige, that's for sure.

slunken
01-29-2015, 08:57 PM
i have a distinct memory of spending one summer in a dirty card shop playing magic the gathering for hours and listening to frogstomp with all my friends. we would all ride our bikes there and meet before they opened at like 1030/11 and play magic until 3 or 4. then we would go swimming or something. i think the guy tried to close by 5 but sometimes on special nights he would plan to stay open way late and we would all hang out late and drink pop and play magic. guy could have been a pedophile for all i know. he was missing 2 fingers off of one of his hands. guy ran the cardshop in town in a few different locations all while i was growing up. sometimes his mom would fill in. his name was steve. i think he lived with his mom.

yea, frogstomp.

slunken
01-29-2015, 08:59 PM
learning how to play that album on guitar for the first time felt like real shredding

Trotskilicious
01-29-2015, 09:05 PM
Thats so fucking 90s bruh

reprise85
01-29-2015, 10:03 PM
i see nerdbros playing magic all the time in the cafeteria on both of my campuses

the last edition i played was 7th, its probably on like 15 by now

another artifact of my usurped adolescence

Trotskilicious
01-29-2015, 10:07 PM
i hate that game

toase
01-29-2015, 10:10 PM
Silverchair was every 90s teenage dream come true

The exploding boy
01-29-2015, 10:41 PM
Not rally. I was off grunge by the time they came around and I could tell they were lame. I guess most teenagers wish they could be rock stars though sure, no matter the decade. But i didnt want it to happen playing this shit.

Trotskilicious
01-29-2015, 10:42 PM
PPL DYIN
PURH MASSACUH

The exploding boy
01-29-2015, 10:43 PM
Also personally i wasn't made aware of Magic: the Gathering until like maybe 1999. When did it get popular in the US?

Its possible it took them a while to translate it to french markets though.

Trotskilicious
01-29-2015, 11:01 PM
Nerds were playing at lunch in 94

toase
01-29-2015, 11:06 PM
Not rally. I was off grunge by the time they came around and I could tell they were lame. I guess most teenagers wish they could be rock stars though sure, no matter the decade. But i didnt want it to happen playing this shit.

They were 15 when they came around

You wanted to be one of the Hanson boys? That's okay

cardiac
01-30-2015, 12:52 AM
Anyway, Silverchair belong to the inner sanctum of the triple J illuminati so Daniel Johns will doubtless get endless radio rotation and second headline at every festival in Australia for the duration of the 2015/16 season. He'll crack top 10 in the hottest 100 next year. It's a terrible system.

Every Silverchair album (there were five spread over 12 years) went to number one in Australia and they had their biggest radio hit (Straight Lines) just before they broke up. People genuinely loved that shit in there from the beginning to the end. If he gets on endless radio rotation and gets to play big festivals, it's because he's australian pop-royalty.

I don't think they had any notable hits abroad since "Freak", at least not in the states.

I was very much into Silverchair when I was 13 and used to listen to "Neon Ballroom" alot. That being said, I'm not really digging this new song. Sounds horribly generic as far as R n' B goes.

Trotskilicious
01-30-2015, 02:39 AM
sounds like nickleback

Funbags
01-31-2015, 01:12 PM
I don't think they had any notable hits abroad since "Freak", at least not in the states

I think Daniel Johns has a touch of Billy Corganitis in that he hates the fact that everyone in the US thinks of him as a grunge has-been.

The new solo song sounds like he's trying to get the mainstream success Silverchair's legacy denied him. If his solo debut doesn't become a hit, I imagine he'll have his "I want my band back" moment.

The last Silverchair album was actually pretty awesome imho. This song is an incredibly beautiful piece of music:

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The exploding boy
01-31-2015, 01:40 PM
They were 15 when they came around

You wanted to be one of the Hanson boys? That's okay

i was like 20 when mmmbop came out. It was a good four years after frogstomp. At that point i wished i was Robert smith. As for at 16....i wished i was Trent reznor...


an yes i know they were teens thats why i said i suppose most teens wish they could be rockstars, and they got their wish but i still didnt wish i was them. i wouldnt have wanted it to happen playing the shit they did.

Truthfully nobody should be a succesful musicians at 15. theyll always regret the shit they made.

Rider
01-31-2015, 03:15 PM
i have a distinct memory of spending one summer in a dirty card shop playing magic the gathering for hours and listening to frogstomp with all my friends. we would all ride our bikes there and meet before they opened at like 1030/11 and play magic until 3 or 4. then we would go swimming or something. i think the guy tried to close by 5 but sometimes on special nights he would plan to stay open way late and we would all hang out late and drink pop and play magic. guy could have been a pedophile for all i know. he was missing 2 fingers off of one of his hands. guy ran the cardshop in town in a few different locations all while i was growing up. sometimes his mom would fill in. his name was steve. i think he lived with his mom.

yea, frogstomp.

Show us on the doll where Steve touched you. It's okay.

The exploding boy
01-31-2015, 04:23 PM
show me in this culture where frogstomp has been celebrated as fine accompaniment to a game of Magic.

Trotskilicious
01-31-2015, 05:50 PM
1995 usa, america

toase
01-31-2015, 08:54 PM
an yes i know they were teens thats why i said i suppose most teens wish they could be rockstars, and they got their wish...

So we kind of agree there

The machine of god
02-05-2015, 07:05 AM
...sounds like Justin Timberlake meets Lorde

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(at least this single does)

The producer and co-writer IS Lorde's producer and co-writer.

wHATcOLOR
03-14-2015, 01:28 PM
the EP is out now, 4 songs -- on spotify.

i really like it. this dude is the shit

wounded
03-14-2015, 03:35 PM
I need to brush off Neon Ballroom

fuzzyroes
03-14-2015, 07:43 PM
the EP is out now, 4 songs -- on spotify.

i really like it. this dude is the shit

Jesus christ:dammit::dammit::dammit: some of you guys will like any old turd that one of these old grunge guys puts out

redbull
03-15-2015, 03:12 PM
i dont think this solo stuff is very good, but Silverchair has at least one legitimately good album (Diorama) and some other good songs like Emotion Sickness

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wHATcOLOR
07-04-2015, 09:27 PM
the EP is out now, 4 songs -- on spotify.

i really like it. this dude is the shit



Anyone been listening to the full album? It's called Talk and is on spotify. I like several of the songs quite a bit, there are at least 2 that I skip each time, but overall I dig it

Sonic Johnny
07-05-2015, 12:02 AM
i dont think this solo stuff is very good, but Silverchair has at least one legitimately good album (Diorama) and some other good songs like Emotion Sickness

I've not been a fan of these guys in 12+ years but I saw them live once and they opened with Emotion Sickness and it absolutely destroyed.

LaBelle
07-06-2015, 08:32 AM
His song about Casper, the Friendly Ghost is my favorite

D.
07-06-2015, 08:52 AM
Sick, sick tunes for a sad, sad world.

redbull
07-06-2015, 09:09 AM
I've not been a fan of these guys in 12+ years but I saw them live once and they opened with Emotion Sickness and it absolutely destroyed.

2003ish? that tour had the extended versions with the long slow jam at the end...I saw them in 2007 and they played the boring short version :/

kinda miss being into this band being 12 was pretty cool in retrospect

Sonic Johnny
07-06-2015, 11:26 AM
2003ish? that tour had the extended versions with the long slow jam at the end...I saw them in 2007 and they played the boring short version :/

kinda miss being into this band being 12 was pretty cool in retrospect

it woulda been 2005 or 6... IIRC it was their first show back after the break they took while Daniel did that awful Dissosciatives album after Diorama.

cardiac
07-07-2015, 06:54 AM
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That's some D'angeloesque shit right there. Not a bad album.

Mals Marola
07-07-2015, 11:54 AM
for real, i've liked both songs posted so far

still fairly hard for me to connect these with the guy who sang "Ana's Song (Open Fire)" tho, & not just cos it's a different style of music

fuzzyroes
07-07-2015, 07:26 PM
Would anyone give the slightest of shits about this new music if it wasn't sang by some 90's grunge lead singer?

Serious question.

Elphenor
07-07-2015, 07:29 PM
hey I agree with you on this fuzzy

this shit is terrible

fuzzyroes
07-07-2015, 07:32 PM
That it is. It almost makes Chris Cornells "Scream" seem tolerable in comparison

Sonic Johnny
07-07-2015, 07:40 PM
I actually concur

Why would anyone bother with this when you've got James Blake?

Mals Marola
07-08-2015, 11:52 AM
to deepen their unhealthy, oversaturated obsession w Daniel "Danny-baby" Johns?

Mals Marola
07-08-2015, 11:54 AM
i think i spoke too soon on silverhchair, btw

don't necessarily know what i heard previous to this (coupla the first two album singles, maybe a thing or two off young modern?) but on inspection of some of the neon ballroom stuff, they ain't bad at all. in fact, pretty good, & now i want to hear that whole record

toase
07-08-2015, 10:40 PM
Anyone been listening to the full album? It's called Talk and is on spotify. I like several of the songs quite a bit, there are at least 2 that I skip each time, but overall I dig it

Yeah not bad

TheDeuce
07-09-2015, 08:58 PM
Neon Ballroom's a great album. i don't really care for much they did outside of it. not whole albums at least. but Neon Ballroom is great.

his solo album is disgusting

fuzzyroes
07-09-2015, 10:00 PM
You gotta do what you gotta do if you wanna make money with music these days.

Even at Silverchairs best, they were never all that original.

sppunk
07-09-2015, 10:33 PM
Jesus I hadn't heard Silverchair in like 15 years. Wow, flashbacks.

Funbags
07-10-2015, 12:46 PM
I like his new solo album thing. It's pretty neat.

fuzzyroes
07-11-2015, 11:37 PM
I listened to Frogstomp awhile back... God damn it's fucking awful... Just pure cheese. It seems like it must have been easy for alt-rock bands to get signed back in those days.

Mals Marola
07-12-2015, 07:44 PM
silverchair are theoretically exactly the kind of band you'd endorse, but instead of that you pick their weakest album to shit on in a discussion about the guy's new solo album? there is some true magic at play here

fuzzyroes
07-12-2015, 09:50 PM
Not really big on Silverchair to be honest. Neon Ballroom is pretty great and I like cemetery and the lead single off of Diorama... The rest has not aged well at all

I mean this is pretty much to Nirvana as Creed is to Pearl Jam

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fuzzyroes
07-12-2015, 09:52 PM
Johns is just a trend-hopper. Whatevers popular is the bandwagon he jumps on... I can't really respect that level of artistic integrity.

Anyone remember this crap?

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toase
07-12-2015, 10:59 PM
that was pretty original

slunken
07-12-2015, 11:24 PM
1. silverchair got famous based on winning a local radio contest when they were 15.
2. freak show is the best silverchair album.
3. daniel johns went insane during the late 90s.

slunken
07-12-2015, 11:27 PM
straight lines is, at its best, as good or if not better than anything off of future embrace if you ask me, both of which are pretty limp-wristed electro pop solo efforts indicative of an insane lead singer

fuzzyroes
07-13-2015, 11:40 PM
I disagree. The future embrace was largely original and unlike anything else that was going on at the time whereas a song like straight lines was a desperate attempt at fitting in with the other stuff that was currently on the radio. I can't remember the band names but there was a lot of that Maroon 5 type stuff happening at the time and it seemed like that was the bandwagon Silverchair was jumping on.

I mean they have a few great songs, so I can't hate on em too much but they were like the biggest grunge bandwagoners if you ask me. I mean, everyone shitted on STP and Bush, but they had much better songwriting and a lot more originality than Silverchair ever had... Yet Silverchair seemed to get away unscathed.

fuzzyroes
07-13-2015, 11:41 PM
But yes, they were both definitely limp efforts.

There was one kinda cool song on Young Modern though, sort of still had an alt-rock feel going to it. I never downloaded the album or anything. It was actually at my local library so I took it out and gave it a few spins.

cardiac
07-14-2015, 10:05 AM
I mean, everyone shitted on STP and Bush, but they had much better songwriting and a lot more originality than Silverchair ever had

Well they recorded Neon Ballroom when they were still in their teens and they were long past grunge at that point. You're shitting all over the band for the two first albums that they did when they were 14-17. Most of their recorded output has absolutely nothing to do with grunge and even Freak Show had stuff like Petrol & Chlorine.

Diorama and Young Modern are acquired taste, but they are pretty unique albums.

Sonic Johnny
07-14-2015, 10:18 AM
The future embrace was largely original

Dude do you remember that time you refused to stop giving me shit for liking Moby?

fuzzyroes
07-14-2015, 10:06 PM
Well they recorded Neon Ballroom when they were still in their teens and they were long past grunge at that point. You're shitting all over the band for the two first albums that they did when they were 14-17. Most of their recorded output has absolutely nothing to do with grunge and even Freak Show had stuff like Petrol & Chlorine.

Diorama and Young Modern are acquired taste, but they are pretty unique albums.

So you figure the alt-rock music scene and the press gave them a free-pass due to how young they were? I suppose that's feasible. Young or not, it doesn't change the fact they were responsible for some the more popular bland and generic alt-rock out there at the time.

It was laughable how much they aped Nirvana. If you watch the early videos the lead singer even has the exact same hair and clothes as Cobain

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^^^ Would have thought i was watching Smells like Teen Spirit if I had the sound on mute:rofl::rofl:

fuzzyroes
07-14-2015, 10:11 PM
Dude do you remember that time you refused to stop giving me shit for liking Moby?

Yes.

TFE sounds nothing like Moby. The only similarity is that it's electonica influenced music made by egotistical bald,pale, skinny guys

Sonic Johnny
07-14-2015, 10:12 PM
I was wondering how long it would be till you were back to spouting shitty generalisations and treating them like gospel truth.

fuzzyroes
07-14-2015, 10:15 PM
There you go again in your pitiful attempts at belittling me without even providing a reasoning for what you disagree with.

Figures that an Aussie would be butt-hurt about someone criticizing Silverchair.

toase
07-14-2015, 10:21 PM
straight lines is, at its best, as good or if not better than anything off of future embrace if you ask me, both of which are pretty limp-wristed electro pop solo efforts indicative of an insane lead singer

you mean this album
young modern was more like zwan

Sonic Johnny
07-14-2015, 10:26 PM
There you go again in your pitiful attempts at belittling me without even providing a reasoning for what you disagree with.

Figures that an Aussie would be butt-hurt about someone criticizing Silverchair.

1. That first sentence was so hard to read it hurt my brain. Learn to write.

2. You drew your own conclusions about what my point was. You called TFE "Largely Original" when it's demonstrably extremely derivative of new wave and 80s goth. I mentioned Moby because I found it hilarious that you want to call TFE Original and trash me for liking Moby, who is, really beyond any kind of contention, one of the most innovative electronic artists of our lifetime.

3. I'm not defending Silverchair, I've said multiple times in this thread that I think they're a shit band for people with boring taste. If you could actually read maybe you would have picked up on this.

fuzzyroes
07-14-2015, 10:38 PM
lol fair enough. Although my point was that Daniel Johns has always just been a trend hopper and while I don't really like TFE- at least Billy wasn't just jumping on the top 40 bandwagon with it as Johns was.

Sonic Johnny
07-14-2015, 10:43 PM
Ah look for the most part i'll agree with you, most of Silverchair is pretty derivative. BUT I would actually give them a lot of credit for Diorama being, if nothing else, actually a pretty bold move for them, given that after Neon Ballroom they were sort of the darlings of Australian angsty teens and they made an album that would have bucked a huge part of their homegrown listenership. It's not hugely original but it was a risky change of direction and I tip my hat to any band who does that and pulls it off.

fuzzyroes
07-14-2015, 10:56 PM
Yeah, at least they experimented a little. I like a few of their songs, but I've never understood the mass appeal. The vibe I get online and even from music fans in my life is that these guys are grossly overrated- and this is including all of their early stuff.

I guess I should stop looking at Altenativenation.net so often. I think those fools might be skewing my perception lol

Mals Marola
07-15-2015, 01:45 AM
The only similarity is that it's electonica influenced music made by egotistical bald,pale, skinny guys

that's actually a pretty fucking specific similarity

fuzzyroes
07-15-2015, 08:16 PM
that's actually a pretty fucking specific similarity

Yeah, Moby the person really did remind me of a neutered Corgan. Don't really hear it in the music though.

Mals Marola
07-18-2015, 04:45 AM
neither did i until you compared 'em

now i kinda wish moby'd produced the FE

Mals Marola
07-18-2015, 04:45 AM
with a possible feature from michael stipe

& drums throughout by kenny aranoff

The Bald Man Group

cardiac
08-01-2015, 05:20 AM
Surprised no one brought up The Dissociatives yet. Just might be some of his best songwriting to date. Sublime melodies, pretty gorgeous modern pop if you're into that sorta thing.

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