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I'm Hardcore
01-12-2015, 10:29 PM
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Sonic Johnny
01-12-2015, 10:35 PM
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I'm Hardcore
01-12-2015, 10:54 PM
fair calls

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:24 PM
The Fall :)

Mals Marola
01-12-2015, 11:26 PM
who woulda guessed!

in any case, i've heard some sweetshit from the melvins in their so-called later years. was only 10 years or so down the line for them, but still

then there's

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among otherz

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:30 PM
Depeche Mode had some of their best songs in their later years for sure

Mals Marola
01-12-2015, 11:35 PM
you say that like they're gone now

saw the boys more than once last year & it was incred'

they were actually pulling out barrel of a gun & only when that year... good grief!

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:36 PM
Oh shit, I didn't know they were still rocking

I'm Hardcore
01-12-2015, 11:41 PM
obviously i'm not going to rip into anyone for posting things that i don't agree with


but Deftones still have awhile left to be considered 'long standing' if you ask me

dreams of glass
01-12-2015, 11:45 PM
I was gonna post Melvins

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:48 PM
Robert Smith's voice sounds like it hasn't aged a day and there's a couple of songs per album that blow me away even if the overall quality has dropped

Mals Marola
01-12-2015, 11:50 PM
bernard sumner sounded pretty young on a lot of those recordings he made at 50, for that matter

and deftones aren't exactly rolling stones but they've been around since '88 more or less

plus i feel like the whole chi cheng incident gives them some heft in that department, somehow

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:50 PM
Radiohead is the answer to this question though

I'm Hardcore
01-12-2015, 11:50 PM
so Radiohead's last two records have nailed your balls, huh?

I'm Hardcore
01-12-2015, 11:51 PM
"nailed your balls" = extremely good music. just saying.

dreams of glass
01-12-2015, 11:52 PM
nailed your balls just sounds painful

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:52 PM
Pretty much yeah

In Rainbows more than KoL but still

Elphenor
01-12-2015, 11:54 PM
I'm the creep and weirdo who thinks Radiohead's second half has been better than their first

Kid A and HTTT being their best albums

Mals Marola
01-12-2015, 11:54 PM
as a big fan of marshall suite, country on the click & fall heads roll i'll agree heartily with the fall thing, but i feel like radiohead are one of the biggest "other side of the mountain" bands i've been a fan of in terms of the quality of their more recent output

Elphenor
01-13-2015, 12:01 AM
I'm of the opinion that RH should be known as THE post-2000 band instead of being another popular alternative 90's band

I really hear their influence on so many people that I've played with too

I'm Hardcore
01-13-2015, 12:05 AM
Sonic Youth was the obvious choice, really. All aside from their last 2 records.

Mals Marola
01-13-2015, 12:12 AM
I'm of the opinion that RH should be known as THE post-2000 band instead of being another popular alternative 90's band

i think this is the opinion of most people who don't work in a guitar shop*

maybe not "THE post-2000 band" but certainly one who made it past the 90s with artistic ambitions intact/reinvigorated

damon albarn & a coupla others join those ranks as awesome 90s-prevalent artist who powered on through the "oughts"

*over-generalization, obv, just a dumb joke-with-myself about the amount of people i've heard in there unironically mention "that creep band" in random bouts of conversation

Elphenor
01-13-2015, 12:15 AM
I hear them a lot when I go buy guitars, people playing In Rainbows songs and stuff

Mals Marola
01-13-2015, 12:16 AM
yeah i guess in rainbows had changed the game a bit

what with all the internet-notoriety and whatnot

heard some kids playing arpeggi in a guitar place not too long after the album was released, now that you mention it

craaazy, craaazy world

Mals Marola
01-13-2015, 12:17 AM
craaazy, craaazy world

s.o.w.

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Cool As Ice Cream
01-13-2015, 01:42 AM
I'm the creep and weirdo who thinks Radiohead's second half has been better than their first

Kid A and HTTT being their best albums


Pablo Honey (1993)
The Bends (1995)
OK Computer (1997)
Kid A (2000)
Amnesiac (2001)
Hail to the Thief (2003)

In Rainbows (2007)
The King of Limbs (2011)

if you look at the period of time between the first album and now, one could consider kid a and httt "first half". (1993-2003 and 2004-2014)
if you count the albums, kid a is also "first half".

Elphenor
01-13-2015, 02:16 AM
Yes you totally could, but what I meant is that most people agree there's a shift starting with Kid A

Cool As Ice Cream
01-13-2015, 02:20 AM
i don't think it's that weird to prefer the later albums.

dreams of glass
01-13-2015, 02:22 AM
In Rainbows is great

Elphenor
01-13-2015, 02:23 AM
I'VE NO IDEA WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT
I'M STUCK IN THIS BODYYYY AND CAN'T,
GET OUT

dreams of glass
01-13-2015, 02:51 AM
I'm lost at sea
Don't bother me
I've lost my way

I'm Hardcore
01-13-2015, 02:53 AM
talk about other bands too

Cool As Ice Cream
01-13-2015, 02:55 AM
dinosaur jr.

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Mo
01-13-2015, 03:14 AM
^ Definitely, their last album was the shit!

Sonic Johnny
01-13-2015, 03:58 AM
Yeah Dino Jr are pretty absurdly consistent

I'm Hardcore
01-13-2015, 04:03 AM
yeah i like that people are generally receptive of their later albums.

Elphenor
01-13-2015, 04:24 AM
I think this is REM's best album

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fuzzyroes
01-13-2015, 04:51 AM
I thought Monster sucked.

fuzzyroes
01-13-2015, 05:06 AM
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fuzzyroes
01-13-2015, 05:14 AM
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Elphenor
01-13-2015, 05:29 AM
Crush with Eyeliner is one of my favorite songs lyrically. So great.

"How can I convince her (faker)
That I'm invented too"

Elphenor
01-13-2015, 05:32 AM
"She's a sad tomato
She's three miles of bad road"

Mals Marola
01-13-2015, 06:56 AM
monster's like, right after they got super-big, tho

i thought up was later-year valid if only for the fact that bill berry had left by then, at least

whatev, i agree monster's a hidden classic - not too hard to realize why though

toase
01-13-2015, 08:28 AM
Kate Bush, Donald Fagen, Tricky, Starfly 59, Portishead, Deftones, Joe Henry, Over the Rhine, Lucinda Williams, Daft Punk, Marianne Faithful, Jorge Drexler, Sting, Scott Walker, Fiona Apple, Man or Astro-man?, Tom Z, Wilco, Nao Zumbi, Tool, Nitin Sawhney, My Bloody Valentine, Beck...

bye june
01-13-2015, 12:04 PM
Sonic Youth
Dinosaur Jr.
Deftones
Modest Mouse
My Bloody Valentine
Mark Kozelek (Red House Painters/Sun Kil Moon)

I've enjoyed the last albums by all these bands/artists.

The exploding boy
01-13-2015, 02:20 PM
It probably says more about me than the bands but i can't think of any in the bands i like. None whatsoever. It's pretty much all like...ten or so good years, then shit (or kinda shit anyway or at least average). Well those that didn't break up after a few records.

brutechinasky
01-13-2015, 05:10 PM
sp, obviously

brutechinasky
01-13-2015, 05:14 PM
and mercury rev, even though i like their early stuff more

Mooney
01-13-2015, 05:58 PM
sp, obviously

i was going to say smashing pumpkins as a joke, but didn't because it was too obvious. but...you're serious. :rofl:

Mooney
01-13-2015, 06:02 PM
i don't find that i still listen to any of the bands from the 00's and was actually thinking of this earlier today. of all the bands that started in that decade, grizzly bear and deerhunter are the only two that I can think of off the top of my head that I still listen to and really enjoyed their last albums.

toase
01-13-2015, 06:55 PM
that's a subject for a new thread

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 01:20 AM
nick cave and the bad seeds don't count?

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 01:23 AM
nick cave and the bad seeds don't count?

Abbatoir Blues was sick, but a complete disappointment since that record

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 01:23 AM
good call though m8, such a solidly consistent musician since day 1

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 02:36 AM
nobody said flaming lips yet, they're more a contender for this than radiohead i'd say

(though rh's best stuff is better, soft bulletin was more or less 20 years into their career. & i love yoshimi)

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:38 AM
Flaming Lips are a great candidate for this thread.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 02:41 AM
Agreed up until "more than Radiohead"

Basically that statement or any variation of it such as "better than Radiohead" is never true

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 02:42 AM
Abbatoir Blues was sick, but a complete disappointment since that record

oh come on

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 02:42 AM
SURELY being a captivating stage presence is a part of this metric

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:43 AM
yes it does, but his recent records have been disappointing imo. that's all.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 02:44 AM
What Nick Cave solo album do I start with? I'm finding it hard to get into though I absolutely adore The Birthday Party

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 02:46 AM
Agreed up until "more than Radiohead"

Basically that statement or any variation of it such as "better than Radiohead" is never true

flaming lips' later stuff is better than radiohead's determined "later stuff"

soft bulletin vs. in rainbows

yoshi vs. limbo

you kiddin me?

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:48 AM
What Nick Cave solo album do I start with? I'm finding it hard to get into though I absolutely adore The Birthday Party

very difficult question. being the post-punker that you are, try his first record - 'From Her To Eternity'. it's fucking dark.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 02:48 AM
Are you kiddin ME

In Rainbows TROUNCES anything Flaming Lips have released ever

There is no possible combination of Flaming Lips songs despite their long career that would make for a better listen than In Rainbows

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:48 AM
flaming lips' later stuff is better than radiohead's determined "later stuff"

soft bulletin vs. in rainbows

yoshi vs. limbo

you kiddin me?

100% spot on, and neither of those two are my favourite Flaming Lips records either

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 02:48 AM
That said, I love Flaming Lips and their newest stuff is indeed great

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:49 AM
In Rainbows TROUNCES anything Flaming Lips have released ever


daft

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:50 AM
fucking Radiohead fans. this band is such a cult.

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 02:50 AM
Are you kiddin ME

In Rainbows TROUNCES anything Flaming Lips have released ever

There is no possible combination of Flaming Lips songs despite their long career that would make for a better listen than In Rainbows

in rainbows is fuckin stupid kid

you hear me?

fuckin STUPID

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:50 AM
he won't listen, he's 20 and he knows it all

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 02:51 AM
I don't know what to say to that.

I am a Radiohead fan boy though. It's not a cult thing, it's more like a homosexual thing towards Thom and his feels inducing voice

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:52 AM
this band could masturbate into a handkerchief, and the result would be the greatest album ever according to the Cult

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 02:55 AM
sorry, that's stupid and I hate when people say shit like that

"You don't like something because you like it, it must be some other thing because I don't like it"

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 02:56 AM
well you did just admit to the homosexual attraction factor

don't go telling me that was sarcasm or something now!

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:56 AM
damnit mals marola

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 02:57 AM
sorry, that's stupid and I hate when people say shit like that

"You don't like something because you like it, it must be some other thing because I don't like it"

what are you talking about

Cool As Ice Cream
01-14-2015, 02:58 AM
david bowie
frank black/black francis

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 02:58 AM
fl just really brought it home in the late 90s/early 00s

i'm not even a huge lips fan, way bigger of a radiohead fan but in terms of each bands' timelines fl were making handsdown some of the best albums of their career in 97-01 or 02ish

in rainbows... that's a nice calendar cover with a HaLlOwEeN! version of big boots, perhaps

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 02:59 AM
fucking Radiohead fans. this band is such a cult.

omg this

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 02:59 AM
david bowie
frank black/black francis

i think you're one of the few re the latter

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:00 AM
See, I think In Rainbows is as good as pretty much anything Radiohead released, but it seems to be their most polarizing record

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:01 AM
llloooove radiohead

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:07 AM
I think The Breeders are better than Pixes post Surfer Rosa

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 03:08 AM
omg this

you feel me?

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 03:08 AM
Pixies for me are a frustrating band, because they never made that perfect record that they were capable of

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:08 AM
haven't heard that much breeders but what you're lobbying off includes doolittle so imma have to approach with a heavy dose of skepticism at best

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 03:09 AM
hahaha are you insane?

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:09 AM
yes i am thank you very much

why do you ask

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 03:10 AM
I think The Breeders are better than Pixes post Surfer Rosa

haha are you insane?

Bosonova and Tromp le monde are great albums that absolutely trounce anything ever made by the breeders

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:10 AM
This is super unpopular to say, but I think Doolittle is stupidly overrated. Surfer Rosa is sooooo much better it's not even funny.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 03:10 AM
yes i am thank you very much

why do you ask

was replying to Elph, then I saw that there was 3 other messages submitted with in the minute time frame haha

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:12 AM
Come on Pilgrim is also waaaayy better imo, and tied with Surfer

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:12 AM
This is super unpopular to say, but I think Doolittle is stupidly overrated. Surfer Rosa is sooooo much better it's not even funny.

it's the cool opinion cos albini or whatever the fuck but i have never ever understood this

doolittle kicks ass unapologetically now, you just have to listen with your ears

Cool As Ice Cream
01-14-2015, 03:12 AM
I think The Breeders are better than Pixes post Surfer Rosa

says the guy who listened to one song off title tk, and decided this was now his favourite breeders album.

ok.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-14-2015, 03:13 AM
personally, i absolutely love both pixies and the breeders.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 03:13 AM
This is super unpopular to say, but I think Doolittle is stupidly overrated. Surfer Rosa is sooooo much better it's not even funny.

I kind of agree with you here. Doolittle is overrated as a whole, but it features some REALLY GREAT songs. The back to back of Mr. Grieves and Crackity Jones is just epic.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:13 AM
haha are you insane?

Bosonova and Tromp le monde are great albums that absolutely trounce anything ever made by the breeders

I don't like the direction Pixies took after Surfer Rosa, they got more polished and it ruined it for me as a whole while I still really enjoy a couple songs from every album except Tromp which I flat out dislike

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:14 AM
the polished pixies was weird i'll give ya that

not quite as weird as say, a polished suicide or ramones i guess but

in that general alleyway for sure

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:15 AM
it's the cool opinion cos albini or whatever the fuck but i have never ever understood this

doolittle kicks ass unapologetically now, you just have to listen with your ears

I don't know anything about albini's involvement or whatever

Again, another case of "You don't actually like it, it must be something else"
Just stop with that

Cool As Ice Cream
01-14-2015, 03:15 AM
i find trompe le monde a great album.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 03:15 AM
Pixies albums have always been a little spotty to me, but theres always just a handful of really fantastic tracks on each album.

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 03:16 AM
i find trompe le monde a great album.

i think it's their best

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:17 AM
I don't know anything about albini's involvement or whatever

Again, another case of "You don't actually like it, it must be something else"
Just stop with that

i'm just sick of people & their stupid little opinionsss

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 03:18 AM
i find trompe le monde a great album.

I think it might be my favorite

Space( I believe in), Subbacultcha and distance equals rate might be the best sequence of songs in their catalog.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:20 AM
says the guy who listened to one song off title tk, and decided this was now his favourite breeders album.

ok.

This never happened

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:21 AM
they really got it together for doolittle

they seemed like a band who woulda broken up after album 2, so i think i'm still kinda astounded they didn't and have yet to come to realization that there is (pixies-related) life after d and it's about time i came to terms with it

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:24 AM
speaking of which i just remembered i actually own a copy of indie cindy

possibly unopened, definitely un-listened to

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:25 AM
They should have

That's why the first 2 albums are untouchable, they didn't have their shit together

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:30 AM
"Sitting here wishing on the cement floor
Just wishing that I had just something you wore"

That's the style of Pixies I like. That basically one chord riff, that repetitive pounding drum beat, and Black wailing like he's about to just fall over and die

*tick*tick*POP**tick*tick*POP*

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 03:32 AM
i thought they had their shit together for dr. doo

hence my earlier post "they really got it together for doolittle"

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:35 AM
Haha, yeah, what I'm saying is that "getting your shit together" is a bad thing for a band like Pixies

They were meant to be another one of those 2 album bands that remain forever in an unreachable legendary status

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:36 AM
"Hey" is cool and all though

brutechinasky
01-14-2015, 06:26 AM
i was going to say smashing pumpkins as a joke, but didn't because it was too obvious. but...you're serious. :rofl:

no, i was joking

those first 3 albums suck a little bit, to be completely honest
they improved with time

myosis
01-14-2015, 08:12 AM
flaming lips.

bye june
01-14-2015, 10:47 AM
I think The Breeders are better than Pixes post Surfer Rosa

This is super unpopular to say, but I think Doolittle is stupidly overrated. Surfer Rosa is sooooo much better it's not even funny.

Come on Pilgrim is also waaaayy better imo, and tied with Surfer

u wot mate?

bye june
01-14-2015, 10:49 AM
I love pretty much their entire discog but I've yet to listen to Indie Cindy

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 03:08 PM
It blows but Blue-eyed Hex kicks all kinds of ass

FoolofaTook
01-14-2015, 03:57 PM
http://exclaim.ca/images/up-3boris.jpg

FoolofaTook
01-14-2015, 03:59 PM
doolittle is the pixies best, but surfer rosa is my fav.

but really every album by them is perfect. the debut ep too.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 06:00 PM
This is super unpopular to say, but I think Doolittle is stupidly overrated. Surfer Rosa is sooooo much better it's not even funny.

No

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 06:30 PM
No it's not unpopular or no it's not true?

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 06:34 PM
no it's yer opinion so naturally it's the duty of the "zeitgeist" to smite it by the pow'r of god & heaven

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 06:34 PM
tbf a whole lot of people prefer surfer rosa, lol

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 06:41 PM
"I Bleed" is really good too though

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 06:41 PM
Debaser is weak sauce

Poots
01-14-2015, 06:48 PM
What the fuck kind of Pixies heresy is being spewed here? "This one's good, that one's shit" It's the fucking Pixies. It don't get no better.

Sonic Johnny
01-14-2015, 07:05 PM
http://exclaim.ca/images/up-3boris.jpg

Boris definitely still slay from time to time, but I reckon their catalogue has been pretty scattershot the last few years.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 07:17 PM
It don't get no better.

I think this is a pretty true statement for Surfer Rosa and Come on Pilgrim.

toase
01-14-2015, 07:29 PM
Boris definitely still slay from time to time, but I reckon their catalogue has been pretty scattershot the last few years.

I like everything they do, more or less, especially the collaborations

Sonic Johnny
01-14-2015, 07:30 PM
Elph just stop would you, this will go nowhere.

Elphenor
01-14-2015, 07:39 PM
I'm just saying they're one of my favorites, even if I don't like all the albums the same

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 07:41 PM
Debaser is weak sauce

you're a troll, a cruel cruel internet music troll

stop now please

i beg & i plead

Sonic Johnny
01-14-2015, 07:53 PM
I'm just saying they're one of my favorites, even if I don't like all the albums the same

yeah but like, someone is trying to bring the debate on which pixies albums are best to an end by saying let's just agree the pixies are a great band and you're all like i agree except just the albums i like.

do you get how that is dumb and obnoxious man?

Sonic Johnny
01-14-2015, 07:54 PM
Mals he's not actually a troll, he's just a young'n with more opinions than life experience at this juncture.

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 08:01 PM
i remember being 20 like it was yesterday
well, 4 years ago at least!

kinda thought that was the time people stopped giving a fuck about things like "coolness" and whatnot considering that was a trip i'd undergone when i was 15 or so perhaps, but i guess different strokes for different folks really is a more potent proverb than i'd previously thought

Mals Marola
01-14-2015, 08:02 PM
actually now that i think of it the 20-yr-olds i know from cali are pretty "tragically hip" themselves so, i don't know

i guess there's just something in the air over there

sorry elphy!

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 08:04 PM
Surfa Rosa is pretty sweet, But it's hard for me to pick a favorite. River euphrates is right up there for my favorite Pixies track though.

Outta the 4 full-length albums I actually think Doolitle might be my least favorite. The other albums have so much more variety

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 08:07 PM
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slunken
01-14-2015, 08:44 PM
Billy was right when he said that ppl experience music in a vaccuum now. It doesn't matter if the music is from the 20s, 60s, or 80s, it's all right there for you and you can timetravel indefinitely to any time period you wish and just live there

slunken
01-14-2015, 08:44 PM
also,

HEY

Poots
01-14-2015, 09:26 PM
I was in a band with a guy who wasn't really into the Pixies and I tried many times to get him to like them. Then I played him Bossanova and he really liked it. I guess it was the slicker sound. Anyway, their later albums are top notch. Trompe le Monde has fucking U Mass on it. If you don't think that is one of the best songs in the universe then you should volunteer at an uranium centrifuge.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 09:39 PM
It's a good song, but it's not one of their best.

I'm always surprised that this song failed as a single. Seemed like a track that would really cross over into the mainstream...

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May have been a little too ahead of it's time in 91.

But fuck ,these guys were so cool in their day... It's a shame that they broke up

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 09:55 PM
Debaser is weak sauce

Shut the fuck up

Being contrary for the sake of it is not a shortcut to being interesting

Fuck you little kid

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 09:56 PM
What the fuck kind of Pixies heresy is being spewed here? "This one's good, that one's shit" It's the fucking Pixies. It don't get no better.

I love how guys like poots are into pixies because of fight club

But they still shit all over indie rock

sppunk
01-14-2015, 09:57 PM
Built to Spill springs to mind.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 09:59 PM
Fuzzy displying how much he cares abt the mainstream he says he doesnt care abt

Another pixies/dino jr fan that wastes no time in shitting on obscure indie rock. I guess you have to be around 20 yrs and in the right movies to be legit

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:06 PM
I love how guys like poots are into pixies because of fight club

But they still shit all over indie rock

Haha what the fuck do you know about me or what I like or why I like it? Why does everyone have to fit into one of the archetypes that your paranoid personality has dreamed up?

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:12 PM
It's a good song, but it's not one of their best.

I'm always surprised that this song failed as a single. Seemed like a track that would really cross over into the mainstream...

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May have been a little too ahead of it's time in 91.

But fuck ,these guys were so cool in their day... It's a shame that they broke up

That's strange you would say that U Mass is not one of their better songs. It objectively is.

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 10:23 PM
http://exclaim.ca/images/up-3boris.jpg

you have to be joking

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 10:24 PM
Haha what the fuck do you know about me or what I like or why I like it? Why does everyone have to fit into one of the archetypes that your paranoid personality has dreamed up?

Because of what you post

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 10:26 PM
Im sorry you compared the fall to devo and shit on stuff you havent heard of. If thats not reflective of your musical curiosity then maybe you should think abt the things you post

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:27 PM
Because of what you post

Where did I shit on an indie band? Because I made fun of your hipsterness with the Swans hipster picture?

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:29 PM
Im sorry you compared the fall to devo and shit on stuff you havent heard of. If thats not reflective of your musical curiosity then maybe you should think abt the things you post

Dude, I was making fun of Elphinor's cooler than thou bullshit obsession with the Fall. Do you take eveything everyone says on here seriously? I'd wager that 90% of the people on here are full of shit 50% of the time.

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 10:36 PM
there is absolutely nothing 'hipster' about Swans. grasp it.

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:39 PM
this guy might disagree

http://thegeorgetownindy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/dirty-hipster-in-a-swans-shirt1.jpg

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 10:43 PM
Lmao. Swans are a total hipster staple these days. Doesn't mean the musics bad, but they're a band that a lot of douchebags use as an identity staple...Much like suburban white-kid gangster wannabes use Eminem as an identity staple.

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:44 PM
Does anybody still reference Eminem?

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 10:45 PM
That's strange you would say that U Mass is not one of their better songs. It objectively is.

It's not bad... It just doesn't do much for me... Theres like 6 or 7 other songs on Trompe Le monde that are much more worthy of praise.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 10:46 PM
Does anybody still reference Eminem?

Eminem is to wiggers as Swans is to hipsters

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 10:47 PM
Lmao. Swans are a total hipster staple these days. Doesn't mean the musics bad, but they're a band that a lot of douchebags use as an identity staple...Much like suburban white-kid gangster wannabes use Eminem as an identity staple.

get the fuck out of my thread

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 10:47 PM
dudes make a 'comeback' record and a lot of people liked it. SO FUCKING HIPSTER.

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:47 PM
6 or 7 on that album? Does your cd have U Mass on it? Maybe you lost the case and you don't know the track listing. I would figure that a grungenaut like yourself would salivate over U Mass

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 10:48 PM
Exposed in his jealousy, Poots wishes he could be a hipster

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 10:50 PM
6 or 7 on that album? Does your cd have U Mass on it? Maybe you lost the case and you don't know the track listing. I would figure that a grungenaut like yourself would salivate over U Mass

It's a good song. I love Trompe le monde. It's my favorite Pixies album... I just don't think it's a stand-out by any means... It's one of the more straight-forward tracks in their catalog.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 10:51 PM
It's like Pixies meets AC/DC... Which is cool... But not exactly my cup of tea

Poots
01-14-2015, 10:52 PM
I do. This is my dream

http://static.neatorama.com/images/2013-10/hipster-riding-camel.jpg

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:22 PM
this guy might disagree

http://thegeorgetownindy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/dirty-hipster-in-a-swans-shirt1.jpg

this is what i mean

pixies have for a very long time been a "hipster" band and only since the millenial double whammy of Nirvana and Fight Club did the mainstream gradually decide they were acceptable

but what's even stupider is that swans is over 30 years old, and you found a picture so they're HIPTHTARTH OMGTH

do you even know what they are?

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:25 PM
i mean bro pixies fans are just so goddamn irritating, pixies were the hipster band the hair metal mainstream kids made fun of

it's just amazing to me how this cycle works, the independent counter-culture is mocked relentlessly by people who now emulating the counter-culture of 10, 15, 20 years ago

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:26 PM
swans wasn't in fight club, tho

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:28 PM
Lmao. Swans are a total hipster staple these days. Doesn't mean the musics bad, but they're a band that a lot of douchebags use as an identity staple...Much like suburban white-kid gangster wannabes use Eminem as an identity staple.

what about suburban canadian losers using fat mike as a role model?

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:29 PM
<I>I am the trillest</I>

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 11:33 PM
what about suburban canadian losers using fat mike as a role model?

What about them? I think Fat-Mikes great. I know a ton of gutter-punks who all love NOFX too. I don't understand why SP fans seem to disrespect them so much.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:34 PM
Drop dead you piece of refuse.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 11:36 PM
stick a cork in it you hipster doofus

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:39 PM
still didn't answer the question by the way

how is any of that different than a guy in his late twenties idolizing fat mike to the point of being in an "all original" NOFX tribute band

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:41 PM
i'm just curious where that's on the pecking order to guys who claim SWANS for cred and "wiggers" who pretend they're eminiem

i'm just curious

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 11:41 PM
Fat Mikes cool though and a great song writer. That nerd in the suspenders and disgusting beard probably listens to bands like "Deer Hoof"

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:42 PM
do you know what deerhoof sounds like?

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:42 PM
why is that so upsetting to you that he may like swans, deerhoof, and suspenders?

does it make you feel bad about yourself?

is it the mangy unkempt beard which is out of style not that you'd know it?

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 11:43 PM
why is that so upsetting to you that he may like swans, deerhoof, and suspenders?

does it make you feel bad about yourself?

is it the mangy unkempt beard which is out of style not that you'd know it?

They're all just very pretentious bands with very little redeeming quality

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:46 PM
Do you know what pretentious means?

Do you know anything about Deerhoof? Swans? What makes them pretentious?

Why is their music of so much less value than something like NOFX which writes misogynist songs about popular lesbian musicians?

Please answer each question individually and use complete sentences. You might learn something about yourself.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:48 PM
I of course understand that you think pretentious means someone lording how smart they are over you, so you don't really need to answer the first question.

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 11:48 PM
what's the deal with everyone of these hipster bands naming their band after animals?

Deer hoof, Bear Claw, Bear Paw, Bear Cubbing, Grizzly Bear ETC

It all just becomes a parody amongst themselves

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:49 PM
and ultimately you are right. swans is very condescending to stupid people.

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I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 11:49 PM
They're all just very pretentious bands with very little redeeming quality

shut the fuck up Fuzzy. you're out of your depth, talking about bands you know nothing about.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:50 PM
he thinks swans is a new band

like those kids in wire

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 11:51 PM
when NOFX have an inner-city gig shut down for being too loud, then Fuzzy can tell us how pretentious Swans are.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:52 PM
well swans don't affect culture or importance they don't have

I'm Hardcore
01-14-2015, 11:53 PM
i swear i am not starting anymore threads here

fuzzyroes
01-14-2015, 11:55 PM
Do you know what pretentious means?

Of course. Pretentious means behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case... Bands like Deerhoof and Swans are nothing but art-school wankery produced by rich-dipshits who obviously don't have a passion for music as their songs are as bland as the lamest soccer mom top-40 bullshit.

Why is their music of so much less value than something like NOFX which writes misogynist songs about popular lesbian musicians?

Nofx are great songwriters that know how to pack a bunch in a very small amount of time. They get straight to the point with their tracks and don't cut any corners with any sort of art-boy wankery... Theres nothing at all pretentious about NOFX, and that's why they've had such a huge fanbase for over 25 years.

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:55 PM
I'll be frank, the sudden popularity of SWANS is no doubt pitchfork related.

doesn't change what the music is, the flip-side of Sonic Youth for for folks who like shit DARK

stop acting like the band itself is the enemy, Michael Gira is nearly 60 he's not part of our fucking culture wars

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:56 PM
Of course. Pretentious means behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case... Bands like Deerhoof and Swans are nothing but art-school wankery produced by rich-dipshits who obviously don't have a passion for music as their songs are as bland as the lamest soccer mom top-40 bullshit.

you don't even know what they are

Trotskilicious
01-14-2015, 11:57 PM
what is wrong with art school? why shouldn't you be educated? why are you so oblivious to your own envy?

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:01 AM
oh and how are you oblivious to your own hypocrisy? you cry about how we're mean to a juvenile punk band for teenagers and you act like you're entitled to be condescending about something you equate to "40s mom rock" which i think is technically sleater-kinney

like if you really want to be the agreeable cool guy then follow through and stop judging stuff you don't get

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:01 AM
Of course. Pretentious means behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case... Bands like Deerhoof and Swans are nothing but art-school wankery produced by rich-dipshits who obviously don't have a passion for music as their songs are as bland as the lamest soccer mom top-40 bullshit.


i can't believe what i'm reading

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:01 AM
shouldn't get mad on the internet, but boy, i am

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:02 AM
also drop dead i still want that

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:02 AM
"art boy wankery"

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:03 AM
What's the big deal? you like the arty, exploratory, progressive kind of stuff and I like the intense, hook-laden, straight to the point urgency in music.

It's all personal opinion. I think Swans are incredibly bland and boring, but if you like them- all the power to you.

It's all just personal opinion. I really don't mean to insult anyones tastes... It simply just isn't music that appeals to me.

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:03 AM
shouldn't get mad on the internet, but boy, i am

he's taking the piss i mean seriously that line abt 40s mom rock is just too much

i mean they are both art school. but there's nothing wrong with art school. Sonic Youth went to art school. Talking Heads went to art school. Pixies went to fucking art school. All these were enshrined by bro rockers because they have just enough mainstream exposure for them to accept it as legitimate

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:03 AM
unbelievable. why would any person even try to argue about something that they don't have an iota of knowledge about

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:04 AM
It simply just isn't music that appeals to me.

then keep your fucking mouth shut

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:05 AM
I really don't mean to insult anyones tastes..

so why do you do it

I mean if you make fun of them that's one thing...if you say they are dreary, difficult, boring and etc i've heard it before

don't question my genuineness. every time i get this from you & the like. that i like bands for cred. do you know how little cred i have? i like stuff for genuinely liking it

i do mean to insult nofx because you're a grown up and that music is for juvenile dicks

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:06 AM
It doesn't appeal to me, but I've listened to enough of the music to form an educated opinion on it.

Musics subjective though... My opinion and evaluation of the music is obviously a polar opposite to your evaluation of it... Nothing to get worked up about.

I think NOFX is great and you guys cut it down because you don't enjoy it... Nothing different than my stance on Swans

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:08 AM
I think NOFX is great and you guys cut it down because you don't enjoy it... Nothing different than my stance on Swans

where have i done that?


show me, where i've done that

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:08 AM
HOLY SHIT THIS SWANS TRACK HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTENSITY!!!

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fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:09 AM
i do mean to insult nofx because you're a grown up and that music is for juvenile dicks

See you believe this, and I believe Swans is for pretentious fools... It's all just personal opinion. We're insulting eachother based on our own personal music tastes... No ones wrong, no ones right. It's all just opinions.

It makes for a fiery debate, but it really is nothing to get worked up about.

I hate when guys get all "SHUT YOUR MOUTH, You don't know what you're talking about!" as if their opinion is the only right one.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:10 AM
you call this a debate

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:10 AM
where have i done that?


show me, where i've done that

perhaps you haven't... But myriads of other people certainly have, and it's all been directed at me personally.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:11 AM
a debate is usually fueled by informed opinions. you opinion about these bands is fueled by nothing whatsoever, except this fucking juvenile obsession/prejudice with 'hipsters'

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:11 AM
what's ironic is that if i said "i started liking swans in 2010 when I heard My Father Will Guide Me a Rope Up to the Sky. It took a couple listens but I started to bond with it in dare i say it a spiritual way. that record effected me on a very profound level. reading michael gira's interviews merely validated my conviction that this is a band that hits a very specific chord of my being." I'd be accused of pretending to like them before they were cool

can't win

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:11 AM
i mean for god's sake, you're insulting bands because of their names

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:12 AM
you call this a debate

yeah seriously

you say a bunch of ignorant shit to put our music down like I do to your juvenile manchild bullshit and we shake our damn heads and respond to you for no fucking reason

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:13 AM
HOLY SHIT THIS SWANS TRACK HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTENSITY!!!

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Jesus man, that shits grating... And you get mad when I refer to it as art-boy wankery... It's exactly what that is.

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:13 AM
i mean for god's sake, you're insulting bands because of their names

he's in a band called Monkey Piss

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:13 AM
Swans released their first EP in 1982 - and it sounds like NOTHING else that had been produced until that point. Absolutely no reference point, complete originality. if my calculations are correct, they're coming up 33 years of producing completely original music.


if that's pretentious, then fuck originality right?

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:14 AM
Jesus man, that shits grating... And you get mad when I refer to it as art-boy wankery... It's exactly what that is.

more fucking punk than NOFX will ever be. deal with it.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:15 AM
he's in a band called Monkey Piss

yep, i'm done

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:16 AM
See you believe this, and I believe Swans is for pretentious fools... It's all just personal opinion. We're insulting eachother based on our own personal music tastes... No ones wrong, no ones right. It's all just opinions.

i'm insulting you on your fucking maturity, intelligence level, and your relentless hypocrisy you condescending piece of refuse

using NOFX as a punching bag is just a bonus because i hate that fucking band so goddamn much and it really speaks to your overall maturity level

I hate when guys get all "SHUT YOUR MOUTH, You don't know what you're talking about!" as if their opinion is the only right one.

i think it's because you say things that make it clear that you've never heard more than a 10 second clip, but you know everything about it and are ready to say it's stupid, has no intensity, and it's pretentious because these guys with suspenders and beards like it

why do you have a fucking opinion about swans? that's what I want to know. I don't have opinions on music i listened to 10 seconds of

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:17 AM
if that's pretentious, then fuck originality right?

seriously

for someone so caught up with what he considers real and original he really can't stand it when someone isn't real and original within the parameters he sets for acceptable realness and originality

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:19 AM
Swans released their first EP in 1982 - and it sounds like NOTHING else that had been produced until that point. Absolutely no reference point, complete originality. if my calculations are correct, they're coming up 33 years of producing completely original music.


if that's pretentious, then fuck originality right?

Originality doesn't amount to quality... You should know this.

I'm sick and tired of fans praising and celebrating music strictly due to an originality factor... Who cares if it sounds like shit?

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:19 AM
"art boy wankery" as a blanket term for anything that isn't 4-chord pop punk.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:19 AM
Originality doesn't amount to quality... You should know this.

I'm sick and tired of fans praising and celebrating music strictly due to an originality factor... Who cares if it sounds like shit?

yes because that's the only reason i listen to Swans.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:20 AM
i think the worst thing overall is you accusing a guy like Michael Gira of having "no passion" for his music.


make sense to do something for 35 years without having passion for it, right?

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:21 AM
how does swans sound any worse than sonic youth a band he claims to like

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:21 AM
I'm sick and tired of fans praising and celebrating music strictly due to an originality factor


YOU ARE RIDICULING BANDS STRICTLY DUE TO NAMES AND BEARDS

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:22 AM
how does swans sound any worse than sonic youth a band he claims to like

SY is more "art boy wankery" than Swans have ever been. what the total and complete fuck is going on here?

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:22 AM
i think the worst thing overall is you accusing a guy like Michael Gira of having "no passion" for his music.


make sense to do something for 35 years without having passion for it, right?

exactly

this is why people don't think you have a right to have an opinion like this; because it has zero basis in reality and merely underscores your profound ignorance on the subject

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:23 AM
why do you have a fucking opinion about swans? that's what I want to know. I don't have opinions on music i listened to 10 seconds of

I actually listened to about 4 or 5 of their records all the way thru. All I could keep thinking is: "what is the big attraction with this music to everyone"?

I simply could not get it

The one word that came to mind was pretentious. It's pretentious music directed at people who think theres something inherently wrong with liking melodic, well written music.

Swans is a wank-fest... a big boring wank fest... It's akin to those artists like Yngwie Malmsteen who just shreds his ass of the whole time... There's no context to it, no ballance to it... It's just B-O-R-I-N-G

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:25 AM
I actually listened to about 4 or 5 of their records all the way thru. All I could keep thinking is: "what is the big attraction with this music to everyone"?

I simply could not get it

The one word that came to mind was pretentious. It's pretentious music directed at people who think theres something inherently wrong with liking melodic, well written music.

Swans is a wank-fest... a big boring wank fest... It's akin to those artists like Yngwie Malmsteen who just shreds his ass of the whole time... There's no context to it, no ballance to it... It's just B-O-R-I-N-G


so...it's completely not possible for people to ACTUALLY NOT FIND TOTAL ENJOYMENT with "melodic' music?


in your mind, anyone who doesnt submit to perfect melody and structure, is pretentious? if you actually believe this, then i have no business with you here or in any other thread.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:26 AM
you think there is something inherently wrong with going to art school, or having no desire to churn out 4-chord punk songs.

what's the difference?

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:27 AM
SY is more "art boy wankery" than Swans have ever been. what the total and complete fuck is going on here?

Yes, but Sonic Youth executes the idea and vision a helluva lot better. It's arty music, but it's interesting and it's a grasping kind of music. It isn't a snore fest.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:27 AM
ugh articulation is impossible right now

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:28 AM
Yes, but Sonic Youth executes the idea and vision a helluva lot better. It's arty music, but it's interesting and it's a grasping kind of music. It isn't a snore fest.

right.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:29 AM
how can you deride ANY other 'arty' music, if you acknowledge that SY are a good band?

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:29 AM
you have some underlying, irrational prejudice against "arty" bands, but you give Sonic Youth the time of day. really struggling, right here.

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:30 AM
you think there is something inherently wrong with going to art school, or having no desire to churn out 4-chord punk songs.

what's the difference?

I'm not saying that. Hell, I'm a huge Sonic Youth fan.

I've just always thought that Swans sucks. I don't like the music, it's boring, it's fundamentally lacking, doesn't seem to be any concept or message behind it.

But hey, that's just my evaluation on it. If you take something out of that music- all the power to you.

I don't know why people get so butt-hurt any time anyone dares to criticize one of these Pitchfork Media darling bands.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:31 AM
I don't know why people get so butt-hurt any time anyone dares to criticize one of these Pitchfork Media darling bands.

see this is what im saying

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:31 AM
forget it.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:32 AM
it is not simply that you don't like their music. it's your prejudices, so fucking obvious.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:32 AM
some of us don't read Pitchfork. MIND BLOWN??

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:32 AM
how can you deride ANY other 'arty' music, if you acknowledge that SY are a good band?

Theres different strokes to the shade man.

It's like saying that someone must hate rock music because they don't like something like AC/DC or the foo-fighters.

Just because one "arty" band is pretentious and lame doesn't mean they all are.

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:33 AM
here's a slice of reality for you - IF YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT, AND CRITICIZE THE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE, THEN IN THE REAL WORLD PEOPLE GET "BUTTHURT"

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:35 AM
it is not simply that you don't like their music. it's your prejudices, so fucking obvious.

It has literally NOTHING to do with that.

Pavements one of my favorite bands and Pitchfork Medias always sloberring all over their knobs.

I just think Swans is a crappy band. Why is that so hard to fathom?

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:35 AM
Theres different strokes to the shade man.

It's like saying that someone must hate rock music because they don't like something like AC/DC or the foo-fighters.

Just because one "arty" band is pretentious and lame doesn't mean they all are.

the fact that you can't see that Swans and SY are the same strokes of the same shade really means that i can't reply to this nonsense anymore.

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:35 AM
because you question our genuineness fuzzy, that's why. because you suggest i'm slavishly devoted to choking down everything pitchfork likes and i'm stupid for liking it, then you put on this fonzie grin and pretend like you don't give a fuck and everything is subjective (but you're still a stupid pretentious fool btw)

fuzzyroes
01-15-2015, 12:36 AM
here's a slice of reality for you - IF YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT, AND CRITICIZE THE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE, THEN IN THE REAL WORLD PEOPLE GET "BUTTHURT"

See, you're assuming that I have no idea about Swans. I listened to 5 of their albums all the way thru more than once... Is that not a good measuring stick to determining the quality of a bands output?

I'm Hardcore
01-15-2015, 12:37 AM
It has literally NOTHING to do with that.

Pavements one of my favorite bands and Pitchfork Medias always sloberring all over their knobs.

I just think Swans is a crappy band. Why is that so hard to fathom?

no, you think that the Swans are crappy. and pretentious. and all of their fans are pretentious. and that they have no passion for what they are doing. and that if people have beards then they have no valid opinion. and 'hipsters'.


so, yes. it has literally EVERYTHING to do with that

Elphenor
01-15-2015, 12:38 AM
yeah but like, someone is trying to bring the debate on which pixies albums are best to an end by saying let's just agree the pixies are a great band and you're all like i agree except just the albums i like.

do you get how that is dumb and obnoxious man?

I wasn't in on any kind of debate, I didn't argue with anyone, just stated my opinion admitting that it's an unpopular one.

Then Mals and Trots disagreed with me and Poots called my opinion "heresy".

So I deemed it necessary to agree to an extent that Pixies are a really fucking good band. One of the best for sure.

I feel like I was being pretty diplomatic while I had my opinion shit on (Not that I'm someone who gets offended by that)

Trotskilicious
01-15-2015, 12:38 AM
you say something like "swans is for people who think there's something wrong with being melodic etc"

except that i like all kinds of stuff