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pavementtune
10-21-2014, 06:52 PM
the prices are on the reasonable side - am I the only one here who is happy about vinyl releases?


LP: EUR 23.50, December 5

www.amazon.de/Monuments-An-Elegy-Vinyl-LP/dp/B00OBDKRFK/



itunes: $9.99

1 Tiberius 3:02
2 Being Beige 3:39
3 Anaise! 3:33
4 One and All 3:44
5 Run2me 4:08
6 Drum + Fife 3:54
7 Monuments 3:30
8 Dorian 3:45
9 Anti-Hero 3:20
Digital Booklet

Expected Release: 08 December 2014
2014 Martha's Music, LLC under exclusive license to BMG Rights Management



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91GDfUXYCjL._SL1500_.jpg

Shallowed
10-21-2014, 07:43 PM
Die CD is only vier Deutsche Marks less than the LP.

Definitely a reasonable price for an LP, not so much the CD

pavementtune
10-21-2014, 09:51 PM
Those who prefer an unreasonable price, can get it "limited" and "exclusive" for $46!

http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/smashingpumpkins

Isn't that great. And then all the different "exclusive and limited" teahouse packages. With yummy tea + tote bags.



You could get the impression the album is the last thing that matters in this groundbreaking business model.

F.Delacroix
10-21-2014, 10:12 PM
You could get the impression the album is the last thing that matters in this groundbreaking business model.

at the end of the day
the modern fan
etc

T&T
10-21-2014, 10:41 PM
after 4 listens (what a short album @ 35mins!), It's grown on me.
It's modern Bill thru and thru. Vocals are still too loud in the mix, but at least it's not all pop everything is sunshine. The melodies and songwriting is top notch - even for that style I'd say they're better 'songs' then Coldplay and U2 (since he's clearly going for that style). I guess this is where billy wants to be right now. I'm looking forward to D4N and hoping I like what more experimental work he does with that instead. I like the bridge in Dorian the most, even better then the Tarantula breakdown! The chorus in Anaise is really catchy and I'll have that stuck in my head for quite a while. the drums in Drum + Fife are no good - I don't know where billy gets the idea that these things are album-worthy (I don't blame Howard, I know it's billy).

Implosion
10-21-2014, 10:51 PM
You know, I actually prefer D4N at this point. MTAE was a refreshing hybrid of return-to-form heavy rock and Zwan-esque pop-rock, after the blandness of Oceania. But D4N takes more risks, and really sounds more like a continuation of things Billy was exploring in TFE. I like the way he used "Ichabod" on some of the tracks; not too up-front, but definitely present.

Honestly, with all of the false-starts of the early Teargarden stuff, I'm surprised he wrapped it up so nicely.

freshfacedyouth
10-21-2014, 11:18 PM
gull eee bull

Implosion
10-22-2014, 12:05 AM
http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2014/10/20/smashing-pumpkins-release-new-song-being-beige-listen/#.VEV75kcRMEY.twitter

It’s the first Pumpkins record since drummer Jimmy Chamberlin departed.

It's an honest mistake...

Ram27
10-22-2014, 12:12 AM
Well, assuming it is part of Teargarden, yeah

dreams of glass
10-22-2014, 12:34 AM
New MFAE entry is on SPFC. Pretty neat, there's entries for each songs, and the lyrics for BB(WOF).

I love acronyms

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/discog.html?discog_id=401

Araneae
10-22-2014, 12:54 AM
Q: "Monuments To An Elegy" is the first of two albums that you've said will be released within a one-year period. What is inspiring this output of music in a relatively short amount of time?

Billy Corgan: "My goal was having the impetus for a double record. But thinking of how it would be consumed in a surface-level culture made me want to split the work apart: which in itself has changed the process, writing, and review."

Q: "Monuments To An Elegy" seems to sonically encompass the different eras of SMASHING PUMPKINS, definitely underlining the majestic and hard guitar sounds as well as keyboard/synth textures. What were you hoping to musically achieve with this album?

Billy Corgan: "I rarely go into an album thinking what it 'has to be.' Albums, as a way of coalescing songs, are just an organizing principle, and each is different given what's going on within at that moment, and without. So if there was any sense here it was bringing all I'm interested in musically to the table at one go."

Q: What inspired you to ask Tommy Lee to play drums on "Monuments To An Elegy"? What do you feel he has brought to the music?

Billy Corgan: "The songs, in demo form, had a strut, and so the suggestion was made that we ought to get someone who 'plays like' Tommy. Jeff Schroeder, PUMPKINS' guitarist said, 'Why not get the real deal?' [On 'Monuments To An Elegy'] Tommy brings the power and grace he's known for, which gives the music a vibrancy that is both immediate and unmistakable."

Q: Can you talk about the contributions of guitarist Jeff Schroeder, who's now been in the band since 2007, to "Monuments To An Elegy"?

Billy Corgan: "To Jeff's own admittance, it's taken him some years to find his place within a sound that was uniquely formed before he came on board. For that he's turned to playing more melodically so his voice so to speak is additive. And it's that triumvirate between he, Tommy, and I that you hear most keenly on the record. Plus, Jeff's just a natural producer in a recording situation, and really pushed me to be my best in a way that most wouldn't understand how to: through patience, and encouragement."

Q: What do you feel producer Howard Willing, who you first worked with on the "Adore" sessions, has brought to "Monuments To An Elegy"? The sound has grandeur and intimacy, always a trademark of SMASHING PUMPKINS.

Billy Corgan: "Howard lives in the real world, unlike me. And so it was his task to be the traffic cop. To point out where the PUMPKINS' sound needed to come forward, and for that I'm appreciative, because it was never the idea of the band as conceived to live in the past, or to become a machine of sentiment. And like all good rock and roll scythes, we're back to chopping forward."

Q: Thematically, how would you describe the songs on "Monuments To An Elegy"? Your singer-songwriter introspective sensibility is in full effect here. There's the directness/vulnernability of "Run2me", the fractured romance of "Being Beige", and in "Drum + Fife", there's the repeated line, "I will bang this drum until my dying day."

Billy Corgan: "That I can't speak to. We honestly just tried to pick the best songs, of which there were about 80 ideas to choose from. And in that, Howard Willing was attracted to those with strong identities more so than just a good riff."

Q: How will the second album, "Day For Night", be different from "Monuments To An Elegy"?

Billy Corgan: "We're at work on it already, and it literally is the other side of the sonic moon. At this early stage it appears to be a deeper work: less shiny, and more personal; which is always a quizzical thing to bring out into the open."

Ram27
10-22-2014, 01:13 AM
I rarely go into an album thinking what it 'has to be.'

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

"The songs, in demo form, had a strut, and so the suggestion was made that we ought to get someone who 'plays like' Tommy. Jeff Schroeder, PUMPKINS' guitarist said, 'Why not get the real deal?' [On 'Monuments To An Elegy'] Tommy brings the power and grace he's known for, which gives the music a vibrancy that is both immediate and unmistakable."

Yes, apparently Tommy Lee is the drummer with legendary strut, power, and grace

Howard Willing was attracted to those with strong identities more so than just a good riff.

What does that even mean, practically speaking? He chose bad songs? All they were at that point was a riff. Stop talking shit.

At this early stage it appears to be a deeper work: less shiny, and more personal;

But--but I thought this album was supposed to be deep. Isn't that why Howard picked the songs like that?

OH, oh, okay, you wanted to prove everyone wrong again about your songwriting ability, right. Shiny radio friendly. The real stuff isn't even out yet.

I rarely go into an album thinking what it 'has to be.'

Mals Marola
10-22-2014, 01:35 AM
ram's angry

like a jealous wife

chrisothoulo
10-22-2014, 02:12 AM
"I will bang this drum until my dying day" - Billy Corgan

Shallowed
10-22-2014, 09:35 AM
at the end of the day
the modern fan
etc

You sound like John Key.

in stereo
10-22-2014, 10:12 AM
after 4 listens (what a short album @ 35mins!), It's grown on me.
It's modern Bill thru and thru. Vocals are still too loud in the mix, but at least it's not all pop everything is sunshine. The melodies and songwriting is top notch - even for that style I'd say they're better 'songs' then Coldplay and U2 (since he's clearly going for that style). I guess this is where billy wants to be right now. I'm looking forward to D4N and hoping I like what more experimental work he does with that instead. I like the bridge in Dorian the most, even better then the Tarantula breakdown! The chorus in Anaise is really catchy and I'll have that stuck in my head for quite a while. the drums in Drum + Fife are no good - I don't know where billy gets the idea that these things are album-worthy (I don't blame Howard, I know it's billy).

If you've heard the whole record, can you tell us how many "la la la las" are on the album? Zeitgeist, Zwan, Oceania and American Gothic all had them.

Araneae
10-22-2014, 10:21 AM
So Billy attended the Q Awards last night in London, just because, looking awkward and in stripes. I guess this is the music business version of networking. BMG is really pushing hard for this.

Araneae
10-22-2014, 10:54 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/SmashingPumpkin">@SmashingPumpkin</a> frontman and wrestling promoter Billy Corgan (<a href="https://twitter.com/Billy">@Billy</a>) is here to present the Q Classic Album award <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/XperiaQAwards?src=hash">#XperiaQAwards</a></p>&mdash; Q Magazine (@QMagazine) <a href="https://twitter.com/QMagazine/status/524920093038628865">October 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Very random, at least his PR people are worth his money.

I guess it's also a requirement now that everyone also mentions his wrestling promotion everytime they mention him.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0jV393CQAAEnet.jpg

Araneae
10-22-2014, 11:00 AM
This is just too good, Billy has to be the most awkward fucking person on the face of this earth

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0jkwZUIIAEDgpa.jpg

Cool As Ice Cream
10-22-2014, 11:07 AM
is he going to do a speech full of swearing again? or is he limited to reading words off the autocue this time (as the prize presenter, rather than the receiver)?

Funbags
10-22-2014, 12:15 PM
This is just too good, Billy has to be the most awkward fucking person on the face of this earth

:rofl:

And always with the cape-jackets

KissesandNoise
10-22-2014, 01:09 PM
Did I just walk in to the future? How are you hearing both of these?

James
10-22-2014, 01:15 PM
Interview about Monuments from the red carpet of the Q Awards...

<iframe src="http://content.jwplatform.com/players/u1Ie9mPx-9MRNb0sL.html" width="620" height="349" frameborder="0" scrolling="auto"></iframe>

Ram27
10-22-2014, 01:27 PM
We don't really consider it a band anymore

Special guest = JC

breaking news

Funbags
10-22-2014, 01:47 PM
Oh hai airplane mode hanging in the back.

WHO'S MINDING THE SHOP??

christian zombie vampires
10-22-2014, 01:48 PM
i am shocked at the times of the songs. on one hand it's definitely better than if it was 17 tracks and 76 minutes of mostly crap. on the other, he's now completely dropped the ball on one of his biggest strengths, writing epics. he seems to be completely oblivious that the entire reason he ever stood out and had diehard fans is because they were one of the only post-70s rock bands that knew how to do 6-10 minute epics. radio hits + buy the album + epics is exactly the formula that hooked me and i'm willing to wager most of us. pre-MCIS shows were literally alternating between singles and epics. he seemed to realize this on zeitgeist with US, which i consider a worthy if flawed SP epic (better than glass & ghost children), and i actually consider song for a son by far the best SP2/3 song (although it's only kind of a mini-epic like mayonaise) but my least favorite thing about oceania was that the title track epic was the worst song on it and probably their worst epic, just really boring. he goes on about the "meaningful album experience" and then forgets one of the basic ingredients. if SP was only their 4 minute songs none of us would be here.

Mals Marola
10-22-2014, 02:05 PM
say epic a few more times

christian zombie vampires
10-22-2014, 02:12 PM
yeah i did just do that thing where you a normal word one too many times and it destroys your entire argument

juliana
10-22-2014, 04:06 PM
WHO'S MINDING THE SHOP??

I'm sure no one will notice that nobody is.


A friend of mine remarked upon looking at the vid that it looks like it is "take your 20-something girlfriend to work day".

Araneae
10-22-2014, 11:53 PM
A friend of mine remarked upon looking at the vid that it looks like it is "take your 20-something girlfriend to work day".

Ha! It really does. She looks like a lost 5 year old. She's got her thumb/hand to her mouth/nose practically the whole time. I was so distracted that I didn't even hear one single fucking word that was coming out of Billy's mouth. All I heard was the end, about him turning down festival dates for May/June (which doesn't make any sense at this point, especially with a new record; he's lucky they're even asking him when he doesn't even have a band at this point).

CrabbMan
10-23-2014, 03:26 AM
That interview made me a little excited for Day for Night.

fuzzyroes
10-23-2014, 04:59 AM
yeah, Atleast he said everything song was different. Gives me some hope that their might be a few songs I'll really enjoy.

fuzzyroes
10-23-2014, 05:02 AM
I'm sure no one will notice that nobody is.


A friend of mine remarked upon looking at the vid that it looks like it is "take your 20-something girlfriend to work day".

Well, you know, A lot of wealthy and famous people enjoy the company of young women. I can understand it. People grow cynical and carry around baggage as they age, so theres something to be said for having a relationship with a younger companion. I really couldn't see Billy hooking up with some lady who's approaching 50 like he is.

Araneae
10-23-2014, 09:09 AM
What are you, like 12, fuzzy? Besides, Billy is the epitomy of cynical and full of baggage.

T&T
10-23-2014, 01:20 PM
most millennials aren't banging 50 year old former rockstars?

Spira|_
10-24-2014, 05:34 AM
‘Monuments to an Elegy’ is the first of two albums that you’ve said will be released within a one-year period. What is inspiring this output of music in a relatively short amount of time?

Billy Corgan: “My goal was having the impetus for a double record. But thinking of how it would be consumed in a surface-level culture made me want to split the work apart: which in itself has changed the process, writing, and review.”

The problem of this guy is the fact he is constantly thinking on money and success. He does not act naturally which in arts is a must.
If he has a double album to put out, fuck just put it out, do it with the heart!

amoergosum
10-24-2014, 12:52 PM
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amayain
10-24-2014, 01:55 PM
What a fucking creeper.

DaveKShape
10-24-2014, 02:19 PM
"Which usually has one long songs."

T&T
10-24-2014, 02:58 PM
"one long songs."

topleybird
10-24-2014, 03:09 PM
For some reason Ram's post really tickled me but I think it's better this way

Q: "Monuments To An Elegy" is the first of two albums that you've said will be released within a one-year period. What is inspiring this output of music in a relatively short amount of time?

Billy Corgan: My goal was having the impetus for a double record.

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

Q: "Monuments To An Elegy" seems to sonically encompass the different eras of SMASHING PUMPKINS, definitely underlining the majestic and hard guitar sounds as well as keyboard/synth textures. What were you hoping to musically achieve with this album?

Billy Corgan: I rarely go into an album thinking what it "has to be."

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

Q: What inspired you to ask Tommy Lee to play drums on "Monuments To An Elegy"? What do you feel he has brought to the music?

Billy Corgan: The songs, in demo form, had a strut --

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

Q: Can you talk about the contributions of guitarist Jeff Schroeder, who's now been in the band since 2007, to "Monuments To An Elegy"?

Billy Corgan: To Jeff's own admittance, it's --

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

Q: What do you feel producer Howard Willing, who you first worked with on the "Adore" sessions, has brought to "Monuments To An Elegy"? The sound has grandeur and intimacy, always a trademark of SMASHING PUMPKINS.

Billy Corgan: Howard lives in the real world --

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

Q: Thematically, how would you describe the songs on "Monuments To An Elegy"? Your singer-songwriter introspective sensibility is in full effect here. There's the directness/vulnernability of "Run2me", the fractured romance of "Being Beige", and in "Drum + Fife", there's the repeated line, "I will bang this drum until my dying day."

Billy Corgan: That I can't speak to --

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-P7QZbY76Bdo/T7EM9iB2tQI/AAAAAAAABLQ/OI6cXOgZ4C8/s200/david-james-nodding.gif

Q: How will the second album, "Day For Night", be different from "Monuments To An Elegy"?

Billy Corgan: We're --

http://i.imgur.com/UN7f6.gif

dodoz
10-24-2014, 03:32 PM
How many times did he say "kinda"?

Also, if "Being beige" is an "epic yearning song", what will the disco track be ? Scary thought.

dodoz
10-24-2014, 03:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BqehJT4Q8o&t=1m48s

"It's nice to have an album that people like for a change, that's a new experience in the 21st century for me". He said the exact same thing about "Oceania"!

thedeadofnight
10-24-2014, 03:54 PM
Any sign of MTAE previews going up yet?

CrabbMan
10-24-2014, 04:15 PM
The problem of this guy is the fact he is constantly thinking on money and success. He does not act naturally which in arts is a must.

I don't think he was any less driven by a need for success when making Gish, SD, or MCIS. His hard work came out of a need for perfection, in order to prove to his family and school peers that he was not the worthless piece of shit that they treated him like, to show them that they're the losers and he's gonna be the biggest rock star ever. When he just tries to live in the moment, enjoy existence, and channel his inner artist he loses his way.

T&T
10-24-2014, 04:32 PM
but billy quite a big loser today. I'm pretty sure he still has all those things still to prove.

Araneae
10-24-2014, 04:36 PM
Yeah, he's still trying to prove his own importance. What I really take issue with is that Billy still thinks he's a counter-culture icon and that he truly believes that he's one of the few people in the music world pushing the envelope or creating "dangerous" music. I don't know how he can honestly sit there and run his mouth and still go on about it after releasing a song like "being beige." If he didn't hold himself up as a beacon for counter-culture then nobody would have any problem with it, but there he is still running his mouth, criticizing everyone else while releasing coldplay inspired tunes.

T&T
10-24-2014, 05:24 PM
Being Beige is counter culture. I don't know any other artist in the alternative rock scene willing to be so lame.

pavementtune
10-30-2014, 10:50 AM
looking for any of the 40 promo interviews he supposedly did for the new album, this is all I found.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNKFuTu4prI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


so did they seriously send him to Berlin and London and New York, and all that comes out of it is a BBC radio segment and some red carpet banter?

The exploding boy
10-30-2014, 10:58 AM
if SP was only their 4 minute songs none of us would be here.


I would have been. Name pretty much any 6 minutes+ SP song, none, i don't think, was ever in my favorites. That's the thing with SP, they had a lot of different things for everyone. I remember when i first joined netphoria in 1999 being a bit baffled sometimes as to what songs people really liked. Songs i skipped.

The exploding boy
10-30-2014, 11:09 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNKFuTu4prI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
r?

i really don't get the Iha Darcy idolizing that goes on in the SP fan community. You have to be pretty deluded to think they'd make any difference. And why can't people make peace with the fact that people have it and lose it? It's pretty fucking well documented in the history of rock. there is no, not now, not ever, going back. None. Ever. Listen to something else. Stop caring. I personally reconciled myself with the fact Robert Smith was never again gonna write a half decent song like 14 years ago (i say this because The cure is probably my fav band of all time) and havent touched one record he did since bloodflowers and i live fine. Get the fuck over it people.


Also..this kind of thing must lose all its (potential) funny when you can actually understand the language, i'd imagine. :-p

s0ss
10-30-2014, 11:10 AM
I would have been. Name pretty much any 6 minutes+ SP song, none, i don't think, was ever in my favorites. That's the thing with SP, they had a lot of different things for everyone. I remember when i first joined netphoria in 1999 being a bit baffled sometimes as to what songs people really liked. Songs i skipped.

Thru the Eyes of Ruby, you don't like, get the fuck out of here.

The exploding boy
10-30-2014, 11:35 AM
didn't say don't like. But in my favorites? never was. Anyway for further reference, i have no business being here but yet i keep coming.

pavementtune
10-30-2014, 12:18 PM
Also..this kind of thing must lose all its (potential) funny when you can actually understand the language, i'd imagine. :-p
to the contrary, it works perfectly.
the subtitles say Crestfallen, Adolf says Stalin. Subtitles talk about Iha's solo record, Adolf speaks about "talking in vain". Bloody wrestling - "drowning in their own blood." I love this shit.

pavementtune
10-30-2014, 12:24 PM
At least he is fluent in Montese, the last blog posts make me think the English language is dead. Or not dead, but totally cool to slaughter it beyond recognition.

and for this sort of writing they seriously looked for Panopticon translators

"Jack Bruce, who's music inspired me"
"right means nothing without commerce until your dead"

pavementtune
10-30-2014, 12:42 PM
I'm going learn some funny English skills from both of them.

Whatever happened to this vevo thing anyway? Were there any answers regarding MTAE?

Ram27
10-30-2014, 02:06 PM
looking for any of the 40 promo interviews he supposedly did for the new album, this is all I found.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNKFuTu4prI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



http://i.imgur.com/OJbm6hs.gif

That's fucking brilliant

I love that they actually tried to match up the subtitles to make it sound reasonable -- Steiner=Schroeder and stuff

Needed a bit more MB bashing IMO. Maybe someone could do that with the Fegelein clip

sneakyflutes
10-30-2014, 02:30 PM
I would have been. Name pretty much any 6 minutes+ SP song, none, i don't think, was ever in my favorites. That's the thing with SP, they had a lot of different things for everyone. I remember when i first joined netphoria in 1999 being a bit baffled sometimes as to what songs people really liked. Songs i skipped.

Uh, Silverfuck, Starla, TTEOR, XYU. And that's just off the top of my head.

sneakyflutes
10-30-2014, 03:18 PM
Oh yeah and Porcelina.

dreams of glass
10-30-2014, 03:58 PM
looking for any of the 40 promo interviews he supposedly did for the new album, this is all I found.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNKFuTu4prI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


so did they seriously send him to Berlin and London and New York, and all that comes out of it is a BBC radio segment and some red carpet banter?

"Don't worry, Tommy Lee will save us." :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Tumora
10-30-2014, 05:37 PM
I love that quote about him not making a successful album since prior to the 21st century...how sadly/strangely true. Anyways, Being Beige was actually pretty cool so I'm looking forward to this new album.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 04:34 AM
PRE-ORDER: Exclusive "MONUMENTS TO AN ELEGY" VINYL + TEA PACKAGE NOW!

November 3, 2014

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PRE-ORDER: Exclusive Lime-Green "MONUMENTS TO AN ELEGY" Vinyl, Autographed and Numbered by BILLY CORGAN + 3 Hand Curated Rare Teas (only 1000 editions available) 12/9

A LIMITED EDITION 'MONUMENTS TO AN ELEGY' + FREE AUTOGRAPH BY BILLY CORGAN + THREE UNIQUE RARE TEAS CURATED BY THE RARE TEA CELLAR.

Madame ZuZu's is excited to offer the upcoming Smashing Pumpkins album "MONUMENTS TO AN ELEGY." Hand numbered and signed by Billy Corgan, this deluxe package will in<fucking>clude the ONLY colored-edition print of this album; an EXCLUSIVE to Zuzu's that won't be found anywhere else. Limited to a press of 1000 (copies 1-1000) on lime-green, 180gram gatefold VINYL.

Each package includes:

1 Exclusive "Monuments to an Elegy": lime-green 180gram vinyl (hand numbered 1-1000 + free autograph by Billy Corgan) $29.99

Three hand selected Madame ZuZu's teas by Rodrick Markus (Each tea packaged in 1/8lbs bags) $49.99

ALL SALES FINAL (Album release date: December 9th)

http://www.madamezuzus.com/home/2014/11/3/pre-order-exclusive-monuments-to-an-elegy-vinyl-tea-package-now

^ bargain!

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 04:39 AM
also, when you try to order this, this comes up:
PLEASE READ:

MONUMENTS TO AN ELEGY NOTICE *

Each edition of "Monuments to an Elegy" will be hand numbered and autographed by Billy Corgan.


I understand that my order will not be personalized.
I understand that all sales are final. No returns, exchanges or refunds on the exclusive "Monuments to an Elegy" vinyl + rare tea package.
I understand that minor delays can occur (though not expected) and that shipping may be within 7 days of release date.

i wonder how many complaints they've received about previous zuzu's "exclusives".

how much will this be delayed? i'm guessing a month.
what do you think?

pavementtune
11-04-2014, 05:28 AM
I think for ordering a single LP for more than 400% of the standard price, just to get Being Beige in lime color, people deserve to wait until 2015. And get stoned to death.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 05:32 AM
i agree. this is such a rip-off. shameless, really.

even if i considered paying $80 for a limited release on coloured vinyl, i'd still have to add shipping ($25-ish) and import taxes (€30-ish).
luckily, that $80 for a record is already so ridiculous, i'm nowhere near considering it. phew. thank god for unique rare teas.

and they're planning to sign a couple of the reissues on vinyl, and sell those through zuzu's webshop too.
how hard is business at zuzu's? i bet they would've been bankrupt a long time ago without the "success" of aegea.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 05:46 AM
does anyone even care about three overpriced bags of "rare" tea? i'd probably bin them. fuck tea.

fuzzyroes
11-04-2014, 05:50 AM
A limited edition vinyl signed by Corgan for only 29.99? That actually sounds like a damn good deal to me

pavementtune
11-04-2014, 05:55 AM
i agree. this is such a rip-off. shameless, really.

even if i considered paying $80 for a limited release on coloured vinyl, i'd still have to add shipping ($25-ish) and import taxes (€30-ish).
luckily, that $80 for a record is already so ridiculous, i'm nowhere near considering it

it is shameless.

first the shipping deal ZuZu's has is ridiculous. Yea thanks this is 2014 and anywhere outside the US you end up paying more for shipping and taxes than the LP costs.

second, I don't appreciate LPs being thrown over the counter as gimmicks to the product you're actually trying to sell. If I want that I'll go to the next gas station and get my supermarket album with a car wash. He should whine about phone sales compared to album sales some more, while trying to get rid of his teahouse stuff.

third, limited to 1000. Big whoop, for this album? What a collectible.

As potential SP brand custumer I can only count to three, so next: this signature business. Standard 2014 scrawls are worthless. Both in terms of collectable worth and in terms of personal value. It has literally no value, besides ruining the cover.

Next, all other SP vinyl releases, signed, through the teashop. Yes please scrawl Billy Corgan SP 2014 all over Siamese Dream, like it's a god damn BC solo record. Album or band history? Rewritten "SP was always more of a concept than a band."

And since that's not enough for a salesman, they added packages on pledgemusic. So with the LP you can pay another $40 for a MTAE shirt designed by a fashion student. Thanks, in case I could have forgotten that the musical content of this release matters jackshit, I'm reminded of it through every purchase option.


And the worst part is that SP "consumers" apparently failed math and common sense, and fall for it

A limited edition vinyl signed by Corgan for only 29.99? That actually sounds like a damn good deal to me

fuzzyroes
11-04-2014, 06:13 AM
Who cares? So the guys trying to get some business for his tea shop, what's the big deal?

I'd rather support his tea shop than buy the album at Walmart or wherever the fuck one buys cd's these days.

pavementtune
11-04-2014, 06:16 AM
we are talking about a single LP you can regularly buy for 25 or for 95 through his teashop. Please support that, it makes perfect sense. The special edition vinyl is gluten-free and vegan, the ones at the record store aren't. Easy decision.

fuzzyroes
11-04-2014, 06:22 AM
I thought the signed vinyl is 29.99?

I realize shipping plays a factor, and if you're overseas then it's gonna be a significant amount, but I hardly think Corgans trying to pull a fast one on people. He's just trying to earn some income for his likely failing business.

Give the guy a break

Mals Marola
11-04-2014, 06:30 AM
sometimes, when i read about things like "Monuments to an Elegy: Madame Zuzu's Million Dollar Edition" i wonder, if even a lot of the hardcore fans are makin jokes about it, who the fuck is actually gettin these? what's the target audience?

then i think of those two girls that presented billy with a cheese sculpture of his head in If All Goes Wrong

& Linda Strawberry, i guess there's always her

pavementtune
11-04-2014, 06:31 AM
I thought the signed vinyl is 29.99?

nope, you have to pay another 50 for 3 teabags, it's a package

I realize shipping plays a factor, and if you're overseas then it's gonna be a significant amount, but I hardly think Corgans trying to pull a fast one on people. He's just trying to earn some income for his likely failing business.
why should I support a halfassed not music related business that's rightfully failing, because it's halfassed? I'd rather support record stores

Give the guy a break
why? other businesses don't get a break either.



who the fuck is actually gettin these? what's the target audience?

whoever the target is, there are fewer than they calculated. with aegea 500 copies sold out in under an hour. this time, despite several announcements and hype like "pre-sale going live in 60 minutes!!!" a new actual SP album hasn't managed to sell Aegea x 2 in 24 hours. Miscalculated target consumers.

Mals Marola
11-04-2014, 06:35 AM
if i really liked monuments though, i probably would look into that 80 edition

why not drink a tea that was interlinked to an album i liked? (jesus, lol)

who knows, in two months i could be buying up all the mac & cheese products my local grocer has to offer, building shrines to bc and Shredder galore

fuzzyroes
11-04-2014, 06:36 AM
sometimes, when i read about things like "Monuments to an Elegy: Madame Zuzu's Million Dollar Edition" i wonder, if even a lot of the hardcore fans are makin jokes about it, who the fuck is actually gettin these? what's the target audience?

then i think of those two girls that presented billy with a cheese sculpture of his head in If All Goes Wrong

& Linda Strawberry, i guess there's always her

It's the Monte, Juliana, Gliterlips sect of the fan-base that just eats this shit up

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 06:39 AM
sometimes, when i read about things like "Monuments to an Elegy: Madame Zuzu's Million Dollar Edition" i wonder, if even a lot of the hardcore fans are makin jokes about it, who the fuck is actually gettin these?

well, not that many people.
it's a limited release, and it's still not sold out. (i think they'll get there in a day or two, but clearly, they shouldn't have tried 2,000. that would've been too high.)

fuzzyroes
11-04-2014, 06:39 AM
nope, you have to pay another 50 for 3 teabags, it's a package
why should I support a halfassed not music related business that's rightfully failing, because it's halfassed? I'd rather support record stores

why? other businesses don't get a break either.

Ohhhhhh. Now I get it. Yeah... That is pretty lame. We all know hes taken a likening to using his songs to sell product though, so it's not entirely surprising. The guy already whored Today out to help recruit people to sign up for a Visa credit card, so I guess this isn't quite as bad.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 06:42 AM
1000 copies. this means they'll get 30k for the albums, shift 50k of tea they'd never sell otherwise, and probably make some extra profit on the outrageous shipping.

50k of tea. that should keep his teahouse going for a bit longer.

pavementtune
11-04-2014, 06:50 AM
yep. not really familiar with IL business laws, but running a shop and food business in the red for the third year isn't easy.
So these 50k plus what they make last minute with Christmas packages and other signed LPs get dated back to 2014 ,which is technically the second year, and you keep your license, something along those lines would be my guess.

Mals Marola
11-04-2014, 06:52 AM
well, there is something charming about it that goes beyond any sorta shallow "marketeering" business or whatever; it mostly rides on the quality of the album

it's a more extreme & edible version of the obelisk (god bless it) i guess
but will it be worthy of the teargarden title is the question that remains, & intimidates

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 06:58 AM
the obelisk wasn't $50.

and it has got nothing to do with the quality of the album: nobody has heard the album. you have to buy it blind. (just like aegea.)
the only reason people will buy it, is because it's coloured vinyl, it's limited, it's signed and/or it's numbered. they're milking the collectors.
nobody will say, "ooh! rare teas! i don't really want the album, but i don't mind paying $30 for rare teas. bring it on!"

Mals Marola
11-04-2014, 07:25 AM
i meant whether it holds together or not, not how tempted people are to pre-order

i know that would seem obvious but with adore, there was somethin kinda lame about the thing being packaged with tea as an option since it was just an older sp1 release they were remastering, not a new release such as this one where the whole zuzu thing was part of the game and part of this particular album's history; so in a way it kinda makes more sense, but if the album's bad it's just kind of a "fuck you & your tea!" scenario

i'd figured there would still be some available after the december release date, but if i'm wrong and there are a thousand sp fans at the moment willing to buy the whole lot of this stuff before even knowing anything beyond Being Beige i guess that throws it off a bit

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 07:57 AM
so you feel that the new sp albums are linked to the teashop? and the teashop is part of the albums?
huh? i'm not following you there.

i'm sure there will be plenty of records available of the new album. it's only the coloured vinyl that's limited to 1,000 copies, and exclusive to the teashop.
the black vinyl will be everywhere. well, not everywhere. i can imagine a lot of shops won't bother trying to sell it. a sensible move.

T&T
11-04-2014, 09:43 AM
Since billy has a wrestler called "Beige Banger" and that song is clearly about him, I'm not surprised if he also has songs related to other business ventures - the tea shop.

Araneae
11-04-2014, 09:44 AM
Judging by what Billy has said in recent interviews, this is his business plan for zuzus; he's going to milk zealous SP fans to keep his shop running. I got shit on for being skeptical and against this business model of his when he first started selling vinyls and CDs through his shop, granted it was fairly innocuous at the time but I knew where it was heading. It was only a matter of time before they would decide to leap to this current model of specifically targeting his fans with reissues and limited edition SP releases with extortionist pricing. I think it's a sleazy business model that doesn't have any longevity. Keeping a shop running that seems to be solely surviving on SP fans isn't going to last forever, even average SP fans will get over the novelty of it eventually. He either needs to change his business model and hire competent people to run it or he needs to learn when to let go. He has done a complete 180 since opening shop (he didn't want it to focus on him, it was supposed to be about the community) and it still hasn't put him in the black.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 10:12 AM
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wow
wtf?

ninsp
11-04-2014, 11:13 AM
wow
wtf?

That video is straight up the most disturbing Monte thing I've ever seen. More than My SP Life.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 11:18 AM
That video is straight up the most disturbing Monte thing I've ever seen. More than My SP Life.

you obviously haven't seen much of monty then.

ninsp
11-04-2014, 11:31 AM
you obviously haven't seen much of monty then.

I have. That video was genuinely disturbing.

Raskolnikov
11-04-2014, 12:19 PM
As potential SP brand custumer I can only count to three, so next: this signature business. Standard 2014 scrawls are worthless. Both in terms of collectable worth and in terms of personal value. It has literally no value, besides ruining the cover.

Amen, man. Somehow the fact that he's signing nearly everything that comes out of Zuzu's tea shop nowadays makes me want things without his signature worse than I do want things WITH his signature. I've got BC's signature on items alongside those of James and Jimmy... having his signature by itself on something does zilch for me. In fact, it does less than zilch: it was one of the two contributing factors to me NOT going for this limited edition release.

Obviously, the other is the mandatory $50 of tea. As tempting as that limited edition lime green vinyl is... no thanks, BC. I'll wait and see how the pressing sounds, and if it's a step up from Oceania, then maybe I'll buy it on black wax.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 12:55 PM
it's a limited release, and it's still not sold out.

253 copies left.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 12:57 PM
I have. That video was genuinely disturbing.

can someone transcribe the entire video? i don't understand everything he's saying.
thank you.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 01:00 PM
somehow i really doubt that...

juliana
11-04-2014, 01:18 PM
253 copies left.

When/if he sells all of them. He will make $50k in tea sales. I bet the profit margin on that is high.

T&T
11-04-2014, 01:42 PM
here's the transcription:
billy usuallies has ones longs songs per albums
but momynents to an elegies has no longs songs
did billy does its on purposes?

Funbags
11-04-2014, 01:51 PM
BUT WHAT I'M REALLY HUNGRY FOR IS AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION:

juliana
11-04-2014, 02:21 PM
253 copies left.

Not sure if my post got deleted or just didn't get posted.

But I think it is interesting that if bill sells out of these vinyls he would make $50,000 in tea. ($50 x 1000).

I think the profit margin of the tea is probably high as well. I think all that money is to keep the tea house going. I wonder how long it lasts him/how much it takes to run the tea house per month?

s0ss
11-04-2014, 02:52 PM
I will download this album. I don't like Billy anymore.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-04-2014, 03:06 PM
ooh, who has been muted here? was it glitterpiss? good riddance!

edit: oh, no mute? just a handful of deleted posts? :(
thanks for getting my hopes up.

T&T
11-04-2014, 04:42 PM
EMAIL ME ABOUT YOUR OFFER
talesofascorchedzero@gmail.com

Crepe
11-04-2014, 10:46 PM
New single tomorrow. One and All.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-05-2014, 03:25 AM
no long schlongs

Elphenor
11-05-2014, 03:31 AM
Let's see your penis

Mals Marola
11-05-2014, 03:35 AM
mmm mmm mmm doesn't that look good!

fuzzyroes
11-05-2014, 04:53 AM
"I noticed that monuments has a bunch of short songs unlike the rest of your albums which usually has 1 long songs"

Cool As Ice Cream
11-05-2014, 08:39 AM
he actually says "unlike your rest of the albums that has usually one long songs".
no wonder i had trouble understanding...
i never realised he couldn't form a proper sentence while speaking. i thought it was only when he had to write them down that things went wrong.

"was this done on purpose or coincidence?"
- yes, monty, this was done on coincidence. :rolleyes:

MONTY 2014
JONATHAN "MICROPENIS" MONTE
ONE LONG SCHLONGS!

MONTELDS SO U THINK YOUR ALL THAT STEALING FOR JESUS BUTTSEX WWW.CRESTFALLEN.COM YOUR LIFE IS NOT YOUR OWN ETHICAL STALKING GORILLA SUIT DATE WRITE A MEMORY ON EACH PETAL WWW.MONTEIT.COM IN THE CLOSET SELF OF STEAM YOU SOUND LIKE A CASUAL FAN *INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY WWW.LEMONPARTY.ORG MORMON CHURCH MONTY MICROPENIS STANDERS

s0ss
11-05-2014, 08:56 AM
Monte shows up to all the special occasions.

bye june
11-05-2014, 01:12 PM
creepy

Ram27
11-05-2014, 05:07 PM
I also love how he went to IHOP to film this and brag to Billy about his meal. Not a nice place, but IHOP

Rider
11-05-2014, 10:35 PM
I love the way he is still trying to pretend Billy will still speak to him.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-06-2014, 03:48 AM
253 copies left.
83 left now.
they're getting there. zuzu's is almost saved for another year.

Trotskilicious
11-06-2014, 03:57 AM
i can't watch the whole monte thing because of crippling embarrassment on his behalf

does anyone else have sympathy embarrassment i think it might just be me. like you see someone do something super embarrassing and you just kind of feel embarrassed for them because they don't know

reprise85
11-06-2014, 04:18 AM
yeah i have that, but it didn't come out in this clip

i had it really bad when i was a kid and it extended to things i just felt were embarrassing, like watching a couple kiss irl or on TV

but yeah, it's like a counterpart to schadenfreude

Mals Marola
11-06-2014, 05:40 AM
i can't watch the whole monte thing because of crippling embarrassment on his behalf

does anyone else have sympathy embarrassment i think it might just be me. like you see someone do something super embarrassing and you just kind of feel embarrassed for them because they don't know

not really

he chose to do this, can't be that bad for him

Trotskilicious
11-06-2014, 06:26 AM
that's a completely baffling rationale

Araneae
11-06-2014, 06:39 AM
That happens to me, that crippling embarrassment for others, and I always wondered why. I suppose I just don't like to watch people humiliate themselves or by others. I couldn't finish watching the monte video. It was like watching an oncoming train wreck.

Mals Marola
11-06-2014, 06:56 AM
well i mean when you go on stage and do some "weird shit" or whatever it's just kind of there and you can't really take it back or whatever, but he recorded this, watched & determined it suitable for the internet then posted it, how embarrassing could it actually be for him

+ by this point even i've seen so much stuff relating to this guy it's kinda like, how many times can you feel like that on his behalf

fuzzyroes
11-06-2014, 06:59 AM
I actually thought he seemed a little more well spoken than usual.

s0ss
11-06-2014, 10:59 AM
I feel bad for his wife.

Cool As Ice Cream
11-07-2014, 03:42 AM
83 left now.
they're getting there. zuzu's is almost saved for another year.

still not sold out.
29 left.

Trotskilicious
11-07-2014, 04:08 AM
well i mean when you go on stage and do some "weird shit" or whatever it's just kind of there and you can't really take it back or whatever, but he recorded this, watched & determined it suitable for the internet then posted it, how embarrassing could it actually be for him

+ by this point even i've seen so much stuff relating to this guy it's kinda like, how many times can you feel like that on his behalf

that's what i'm saying, i feel embarrassed on his behalf because he feels none of his own

Trotskilicious
11-07-2014, 04:09 AM
because a rational person would watch that before posting and go "jesus i need to get over bill corgan"

Gavvvvvin
11-07-2014, 05:56 AM
Monte: starving for the truth.

pavementtune
11-07-2014, 11:45 AM
still not sold out.
29 left.


10 different offers on pledgemusic, two are sold out:
the vinyl test pressing for 155 (don't know how many were offered) and the package artwork proof + regular vinyl for $82.

shirt is $35

http://d2tqed3y8k290k.cloudfront.net/incentives/000/112/323/icons/large.jpg?1415064346?1415324651

Ram27
11-07-2014, 12:07 PM
That's an ugly ass logo

Literally just scribbles

What's the tramp stamp logo?

pavementtune
11-10-2014, 04:35 PM
December 14

http://cbskroq2.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/acx-2014-lead.jpg?w=770&h=433&crop=1


that's nice, less than a week between album release and a chance to hear live versions of some songs.
I'm curious what they'll sound like stripped down.

http://kroq.cbslocal.com/the-25th-annual-kroq-almost-acoustic-christmas-lineup-event-details/

Rider
11-10-2014, 04:46 PM
December 14

http://cbskroq2.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/acx-2014-lead.jpg?w=770&h=433&crop=1


that's nice, less than a week between album release and a chance to hear live versions of some songs.
I'm curious what they'll sound like stripped down.

http://kroq.cbslocal.com/the-25th-annual-kroq-almost-acoustic-christmas-lineup-event-details/


It's a radio station Christmas show they will have a 4 song slot and 3 of them will be from the 90's.

slunken
11-10-2014, 05:14 PM
Before anyone says anything this is not the late 90s anymore

Araneae
11-10-2014, 05:46 PM
I didn't even know that it still existed.

Raskolnikov
11-10-2014, 05:49 PM
Man, that Night 2 bill is pretty hefty - lots of big names on there. Didn't know U2 was even currently playing shows?!

Funbags
11-10-2014, 05:55 PM
WHAT IS AN ALT-J

Ram27
11-10-2014, 06:05 PM
Tonight, Tonight
Disarm
Being Beige
1979

slunken
11-10-2014, 06:10 PM
Tonight, Tonight
Disarm
Being Beige
great new song that will never be played again
1979

edited

Elphenor
11-10-2014, 06:33 PM
That first night of KROQ is so shit it's incredible.

pumpkins
11-10-2014, 07:16 PM
Is it legit?

http://mp3face.com/the-smashing-pumpkins-monuments-to-an-elegy-2014-new-album/

It isn't.

Trotskilicious
11-10-2014, 07:21 PM
WHAT IS AN ALT-J

jesus christ dude, being an out of touch thicky is not a badge of pride

Trotskilicious
11-10-2014, 07:21 PM
in fact i think alt-j should have some crossover here but since you didn't hear it on the radio station you listen to that hasn't updated its playlist since about 2003 you're going to act like its obscure garbage

Elphenor
11-10-2014, 07:26 PM
Bush, Fall out boy, Incubus, Linkin Park

It's an all star list of shit bands

T&T
11-10-2014, 08:45 PM
jesus christ dude, being an out of touch thicky is not a badge of pride
seriously. the first alt-j album is good. still not sure about the new one.

pavementtune
11-11-2014, 01:00 AM
I thought they only play live in December to promote MTAE before touring with whatever line-up next year?

Last time they did KROQ's Christmas show, they played 11 songs/one hour, that would be long enough to play a couple of hits and introduce (semi)acoustic versions of at least 3 songs from the new album.
Am I thinking wrong here

butthurt
11-11-2014, 01:39 AM
WHAT IS AN ALT-J

It's one of those Insane Clown guys, right? I think so, anyway.

dreams of glass
11-11-2014, 02:25 AM
I tried pressing ALT-J, but nothing happened.

TuralyonW3
11-11-2014, 02:25 AM
I was also unfamiliar with Alt-J...pretty sure it's not a problem

Trotskilicious
11-11-2014, 02:50 AM
they're really popular is all

T&T
11-11-2014, 03:05 AM
It's one of those Insane Clown guys, right? I think so, anyway.

yes, it's ICP. your point?
aside from not knowing who altJ is.

Rider
11-11-2014, 03:24 AM
I thought they only play live in December to promote MTAE before touring with whatever line-up next year?

Last time they did KROQ's Christmas show, they played 11 songs/one hour, that would be long enough to play a couple of hits and introduce (semi)acoustic versions of at least 3 songs from the new album.
Am I thinking wrong here

Look at where they are in the lineup. They will not be playing 11 songs.

U2 will be playing 11 songs, but nope The Pumpkins will looking at past setlists most likely get 6. I'm also almost certain that when you sign up for these thing you agree to play hit songs. Just look at past setlists.

juliana
11-11-2014, 03:32 AM
Alphabetical order?

davin
11-11-2014, 05:51 AM
i think Being Beige sucks. One and All is better, but also meh.

also ALT-J is good, first album especially. the recent halloween wknd shows in chicago were legit.

s0ss
11-11-2014, 11:46 AM
i think Being Beige sucks. One and All is better, but also meh.

also ALT-J is good, first album especially. the recent halloween wknd shows in chicago were legit.

You think you're fucking special with your yellow font?

ninsp
11-11-2014, 12:05 PM
You think you're fucking special with your yellow font?

I think it's funny that every time he posts he spends the extra effort to make sure it's always yellow.

Rider
11-11-2014, 02:51 PM
Alphabetical order?

You're right they will clearly be headlining with U2 and Imagine Dragons opening for them.

Mals Marola
11-11-2014, 03:05 PM
with the lone exception of interpol coming after modest mouse
oh shit another machiny mystery

Rider
11-11-2014, 03:13 PM
I think it's funny that every time he posts he spends the extra effort to make sure it's always yellow.

Unlike you who somehow managed to come up with the most generic forgettable username that screams "please ignore everything I say."

Shallowed
11-11-2014, 04:36 PM
Oh boy, someone's talking about making an effort on a message board.

Shallowed
11-11-2014, 04:37 PM
I hope you appreciate the effort I went into making this post

dreams of glass
11-11-2014, 04:38 PM
Am I cool yet guys?

Mals Marola
11-11-2014, 04:39 PM
damn, i broke into a sweat just looking at that

tone it down, shal o.

Shallowed
11-11-2014, 04:40 PM
No, you need to put more effort into your posts.

Mals Marola
11-11-2014, 04:43 PM
i'm doing the best that i can

lavrentis
11-11-2014, 05:39 PM
Billy needs to get Zwan back together.

Mals Marola
11-11-2014, 05:43 PM
Billy needs to get Zwan back together.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/20141110/5135806/veganshake-o.gif

T&T
11-11-2014, 05:46 PM
zwan has reunited under the smashing pumpkins moniker.

Ram27
11-11-2014, 05:56 PM
Zwan was more SP than SP is

T&T
11-11-2014, 05:58 PM
according to billy jeff was in zwan.

Slurpee
11-11-2014, 06:16 PM
Switching to blue permanently.

slunken
11-11-2014, 06:36 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/20141110/5135806/veganshake-o.gif

breadregal?

chotchkiss
11-11-2014, 10:27 PM
Last.fm shows listener counts by song for Monuments to an Elegy. Being Beige presently 5,141 to One and All's 172.

Before I trust the data I'll give it a week or two. There could be some edge effects that would distort the OAA count more so than the BB count (e.g. maybe they update the numbers once a week and OAA only got one day in the week before it closed).

It's interesting that all other tracks have one listener except Run 2 Me which has none.

http://www.last.fm/music/The+Smashing+Pumpkins/Monuments+to+an+Elegy

sneakyflutes
11-11-2014, 10:37 PM
Last.fm shows listener counts by song for Monuments to an Elegy. Being Beige presently 5,141 to One and All's 172.

Before I trust the data I'll give it a week or two. There could be some edge effects that would distort the OAA count more so than the BB count (e.g. maybe they update the numbers once a week and OAA only got one day in the week before it closed).

It's interesting that all other tracks have one listener except Run 2 Me which has none.

http://www.last.fm/music/The+Smashing+Pumpkins/Monuments+to+an+Elegy

You have to listen to at least 50% of a song before it gets scrobbled to last.fm so I'm guessing if someone has a copy Run 2 Me is so bad they couldn't make it past a minute and a half.

Mals Marola
11-12-2014, 01:56 AM
breadregal?

john cougar mellancamp?

Trotskilicious
11-12-2014, 02:05 AM
You think you're fucking special with your yellow font?

he is special

he's the motherfuckin davster






:rockon:

Butt Pope
11-12-2014, 10:44 AM
pee pee font

Fixed

amoergosum
11-12-2014, 10:54 AM
Fixed

>>>

I am special.

Mals Marola
11-12-2014, 12:47 PM
he is special

he's the motherfuckin davster






:rockon:

is that like the Spinner of netphoria

because like, whoa man... Spinner. just Spinner dude

pumpkinfan1988
11-12-2014, 04:54 PM
Just going by the preview I think this album may have been released too fast. I think it needed more time and possibly even a new direction. There are a few good ones in there, but overall they needed more work...more leads and solos for one. Critically put, songs like Run 2 Me should of just been placed in the trash can. The mixing and vocals needed more time. Also length of the album is too short. From a big picture perspective I would of suggested holding off on releasing it until next year. Instead of making two albums just make one very solid one, this particular album isn't what I would consider solid, far from it. My hope is with the next album in the works its a completely different work carrying some of those emotions from older Pumpkins songs that we all love. A song like Burnt Orange Black gives me hope (minus the annoying back up singers voice), very old school pumpkins vibe to it, hopefully that will be the new direction.

pavementtune
11-12-2014, 05:57 PM
As I've made the decision to abandon (for now) QUEEN OF THE MEADOW and THAT OTHER TUNE (it doesn't have a name). The reasons for this are complex and having zero to do with liking the songs. In fact, they portend to interesting destinations, new and old, as both had a timeless quality that sounded 'Pumpkin' and futuristic. What turned me was feeling that the songs couldn't be presented in their best form without a whole lot more work; which we don't have time for. And with DAY FOR NIGHT calling, and a hellacious schedule coming up to promote MONUMENTS TO AN ELEGY, Jeff and I simply don't have the time.
September 15



I for one have worked for 3 years on this, and after innumerable meetings and lawyers and all that jazz, I remained convinced that we have in our hands a groundbreaking show.

wrestling, October 11

reprise85
11-12-2014, 05:59 PM
:(

Shallowed
11-12-2014, 06:19 PM
I remained convinced that we have in our hands a groundbreaking show.

There it is again

T&T
11-12-2014, 06:27 PM
maybe it's groundbreaking because they have to bury a cat every time

Ram27
11-12-2014, 07:01 PM
a timeless quality that sounded 'Pumpkin' and futuristic

is that supposed to mean something anymore

amoergosum
11-13-2014, 05:15 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/SmashingPumpkin">@SmashingPumpkin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tommylee?src=hash">#tommylee</a> sounds very influenced by <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeByrneDrums">@MikeByrneDrums</a> on the new tracks! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/newmusicthatrocks?src=hash">#newmusicthatrocks</a></p>&mdash; =-JaSoN-GiBSoN-= (@gittyhorse) <a href="https://twitter.com/gittyhorse/status/531875759820795905">10. November 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

>>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/HQfzwFloVqA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

topleybird
11-13-2014, 11:36 AM
Just going by the preview I think this album may have been released too fast. I think it needed more time and possibly even a new direction. There are a few good ones in there, but overall they needed more work...more leads and solos for one. Critically put, songs like Run 2 Me should of just been placed in the trash can. The mixing and vocals needed more time. Also length of the album is too short.

My friend, you said a mouthful. I'm just still trying to get around the idea that they worked on this for so many months and the end result is an album that's less than five minutes long. I mean I know Billy's always going on about the short attention span of today's youth but this is ridiculous. More work? More time? Buddy that's the understatement of the year. I'd add that most of these songs could have used stronger beginnings and endings; most of them just seem to kind of cut off. And yeah, I know each song is like 30 seconds long but throw in a one-second solo here and there.

Greatvegetable
11-13-2014, 11:39 AM
Although we do know the album has no solos.

Forgotten Child
11-13-2014, 12:40 PM
And what is the problem with that? Lots of Black Sabbath songs have no solo. The same with Metallica, Led Zeppelin, etc...

Plus, please check all classic rock albums released before the 80's/90's out. They are all as short as this one, which helped the bands to release new material more often, every year! Let's not forget they will soon release Day For Night!

Order 66
11-13-2014, 01:21 PM
solos kind of become procedural after awhile... its kind of like okay at the end here we need to lay one down just because

that said going into an album with the intent of no solos has always been weird to me. like metallica did with st. anger

Elphenor
11-13-2014, 01:34 PM
When the song calls for a solo you drop a solo

Elphenor
11-13-2014, 01:34 PM
Plus playing long epics with multiple guitar solos that still keep you locked in is like Billy's trademark

T&T
11-13-2014, 01:47 PM
The mixing and vocals needed more time.
it doesn't take more time to lower the vocal bus fader. it's an active decision billy's making every time to place his vocals so loud in the mix.

Mals Marola
11-13-2014, 01:48 PM
When the song calls for a solo you drop a solo

pretty much

lookin forward to all the snabby jibes at "herr howard" in eventual liner notes, though, at least

Shallowed
11-13-2014, 06:15 PM
Although we do know the album has no solos.

God, could you all just get the fuck over guitar solos? Go listen to Queen or something.

Greatvegetable
11-13-2014, 07:12 PM
Shallowed, you reductive, insufferable fuckpig, the comment was regarding topleybird's response to pumpkinfan1988's post in which he pertained to 88's knowledge of there being no guitar solos as though he gleaned it from the 30 second samples.

Shallowed
11-13-2014, 07:33 PM
Although you and pumpkinsfan1988 were right, the album has no solos.

Araneae
11-13-2014, 09:14 PM
They're in the midst of shooting a video.


The Shredder. #VideoShoot @jjjschroeder #MomumentsToAnElegy

http://scontent-b-ord.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/10785013_1549884488592200_1461812955_n.jpg


Video shoot eternity. #monumentstoanelegy

http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/925364_1523572297890184_306306914_n.jpg

freshfacedyouth
11-13-2014, 09:21 PM
"#MomumentsToAnElegy"

reprise85
11-13-2014, 10:12 PM
billy is aging with a multiplier. 10x super aging

someone could tell me that person was 60 and i wouldn't bat an eyelass

:(

ButtHash
11-13-2014, 11:19 PM
Does he have make-up on? Ha. I mean, like for the video.

Dude's got that turkey neck.

Mals Marola
11-14-2014, 12:24 AM
billy is aging with a multiplier. 10x super aging

someone could tell me that person was 60 and i wouldn't bat an eyelass

:(

why? he's just kinda fat & sad, give the man a better diet and some prozak perhaps and he'll be lookin 1979-video again or something not that big of a deal

reprise85
11-14-2014, 12:30 AM
i dont care if he's overweight, he's just looks a lot older than he is these days.

Araneae
11-14-2014, 01:20 AM
Andropause

Order 66
11-14-2014, 01:44 AM
i thought he hadn't aged at all until circa 2010... but i guess having no hair can fool people

i wonder what's what's up with the weight gain though. aging is one thing but he's always had a naturally thin frame. he must be overworked or something

lionheart0
11-14-2014, 01:49 AM
Y'all are makin' Billy stress eat with all yer negativity!

Araneae
11-14-2014, 02:06 AM
He did look fine up until around 2010, then he hit a sharp decline. He hasn't looked well these past couple of years. With all of the projects he has taken on he could very well be overworking himself and taking on more than he can handle. As for his weight gain, it's probably just poor diet coupled with a lack of exercise, but being stressed certainly doesn't help the situation (particularly if he's an emotional eater).

amoergosum
11-14-2014, 07:00 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>The Smashing Pumpkins are on instagram now!!! <a href="http://t.co/UGAaxK8I8y">http://t.co/UGAaxK8I8y</a></p>&mdash; Smashing Pumpkins (@SmashingPumpkin) <a href="https://twitter.com/SmashingPumpkin/status/531216689778536448">8. November 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Howard's hand of deletion. #smashingpumpkins #monumentstoanelegy #dayfornight @howardwilling #studio @jjjschroeder

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/t51.2885-15/10809894_757753487627646_716724550_n.jpg

The Shredder. #VideoShoot @jjjschroeder #MomumentsToAnElegy

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/10785013_1549884488592200_1461812955_n.jpg

Video shoot eternity. #monumentstoanelegy

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpa1/t51.2885-15/925364_1523572297890184_306306914_n.jpg

Araneae
11-14-2014, 09:55 AM
Still no word on which song they're shooting for a video in LA, but here's a photo from Kristin Burns

http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10784955_750268201727366_1209352934_n.jpg

Funbags
11-14-2014, 10:18 AM
Still no word on which song they're shooting for a video in LA, but here's a photo from Kristin Burns

http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10784955_750268201727366_1209352934_n.jpg

Tea in a bar!

The exploding boy
11-14-2014, 10:28 AM
whaddabunch of hipsters


Bolly looks like billy crystal on this.

cardiac
11-14-2014, 12:14 PM
Still no word on which song they're shooting for a video in LA, but here's a photo from Kristin Burns

http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10784955_750268201727366_1209352934_n.jpg

Might be a long shot, but is the guy on the left Ty Segall?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/L.A.RECORD-web-images/0813tysegall_lg.gif

MyOneAndOnly
11-14-2014, 12:42 PM
i dont care if he's overweight, he's just looks a lot older than he is these days.

he looks even older in person, at least he did the last time I met him 2 years ago. You're right, though. Between 2010 and now he seems to have aged a lot. It has to be mostly all the weight he gained. He's just not one of those people that wears it well. He's has a thin frame, narrow shoulders and rather round facial features. None of which helps when packing on pounds.

Also, he seems intent on wearing the same clothing he wore in 2009 when he was thin.


Before TbK

http://www.edwinhimself.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/picture-1.png


After TbK

http://www.alternativenation.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/billycorgansiddhartha.png

MyOneAndOnly
11-14-2014, 12:50 PM
this one makes him look like he could be a villain on a DC Comics tv show

http://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/billycorganapawards2014_638.jpg

Mals Marola
11-14-2014, 02:16 PM
that link don't work

assets.blabbermouth camp is PISSED

Araneae
11-14-2014, 03:04 PM
Is it really that cold in LA right now? He's wearing two shirts, a tweed jacket, a scarf, a knit hat, and he's drinking tea...in a bar.

iPumpkin
11-15-2014, 12:49 AM
Is it really that cold in LA right now? He's wearing two shirts, a tweed jacket, a scarf, a knit hat, and he's drinking tea...in a bar.

It was 48f last night. That is pretty extreme out here. It was in the 90s last few weeks.

Araneae
11-15-2014, 01:30 AM
Completely off-topic but I thought it was kind of cool. I was looking through MCAs stream looking for museum events and I noticed they posted a picture of Billy checking out the Bowie exhibit.

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/q81/s720x720/10675685_10152592589287762_7714415828823883098_n.j pg?oh=4e734788f8db76f5a3ff6e10fa9933db&oe=54E76352

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/q85/s720x720/10387347_10152592589092762_7804778269938899411_n.j pg?oh=b3382ded14561d7cd89c97315c8a7032&oe=54DA16C1

Grox
11-15-2014, 01:51 AM
That guy has rocked a billion faces. crazy

Elphenor
11-15-2014, 01:56 AM
old people are lame

Implosion
11-15-2014, 02:00 AM
His shirt buttons are holding on for dear life!

dreams of glass
11-15-2014, 03:05 AM
Jesus, does he even look at what he's choosing to wear that day?

Elphenor
11-15-2014, 03:21 AM
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/20/ba/cd20ba28b456dec8acca5162ae5632da.jpg

Starla
11-15-2014, 03:45 AM
He's still cute, it depends on the angle.

panda show
11-15-2014, 03:56 AM
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cd/20/ba/cd20ba28b456dec8acca5162ae5632da.jpgit looks like he's a left-handed jump shooter.

pavementtune
11-15-2014, 04:22 AM
Still no word on which song they're shooting for a video in LA, but here's a photo from Kristin Burns

http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10784955_750268201727366_1209352934_n.jpg

they don't seem to spend much time on the video - Corgan and Jeff were guesting (on a Joy Division song) at the Peter Hook concert tonight at the Metro

http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/915688_1517799645127953_1991084234_n.jpg



Jesus, does he even look at what he's choosing to wear that day?

the hat is alright, though

fuzzyroes
11-15-2014, 06:16 AM
I think Corgans aged pretty well. Dude is approaching 50 for crying out loud.

duovamp
11-15-2014, 01:27 PM
I hope I'm that rich when im 50.

reprise85
11-15-2014, 01:49 PM
it looks like he's a left-handed jump shooter.

thats probably because he is

pavementtune
11-15-2014, 03:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BZYn6P1.jpg


I like the design a lot, to my eyes it's one of the best since 2000.






http://i.imgur.com/SYaFkXY.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/RWAxavd.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/XQE4ene.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/czNhYbv.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/SYsB5aN.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/LIPYA6q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0kgGQ48.jpg

Shallowed
11-15-2014, 07:10 PM
Do you think it has to do with there being no typography, it's just Billy's handwriting? It seems a lot more personal.

Araneae
11-15-2014, 07:43 PM
Probably. It has a somewhat polished but personal feel (due to his handwriting). I can't say I like the new Martha's music logo, not that the old one was so great, but it looks so boring now.

Shallowed
11-15-2014, 08:27 PM
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3895/14920803165_b497f42a9c.jpg

pavementtune
11-15-2014, 09:09 PM
Do you think it has to do with there being no typography, it's just Billy's handwriting? It seems a lot more personal.

for me yes, and the colours, the layout is neat altogether.
For example on the back cover of TFE, the text is all over the place, left column, right column, there's too much going on.
The new album has the tracks centered, doesn't play around with a bunch of font colours and sizes, the background picture looks decent.

It's just a nice surprise, after the teargarden theme disaster (and in general rather lousy artwork for years, including posters and shirts) I didn't expect something aesthetic.

And since I'm a sucker for physical music releases, I care about album design and appreciate every release that looks nice.
The music can be great, but if the album looks like shit - that's still the first impression every time I want to listen to it and hold it in my hands.

juliana
11-15-2014, 09:19 PM
Probably. It has a somewhat polished but personal feel (due to his handwriting). I can't say I like the new Martha's music logo, not that the old one was so great, but it looks so boring now.

The old logo was better. His handwriting is cool but not the rest.

Mals Marola
11-15-2014, 09:27 PM
yeah as much as it was/is hated i've always liked the zeitgeist "theme" or whatever

it's more iconic than oceania's stock "cool tower!" image, anyway

but yeah that is fer sure one thing that bodes well for the album, at least from my perspective, since from the start i saw the oceania cover and figured it'd all be as lame as its cover (which, to its credit, it did kinda surpass that at least a few times on the record) but i liked MTAE's picture immediately, so, hopefully that's a signifier for the full tracks as well!

Araneae
11-15-2014, 09:51 PM
The Zeitgeist booklet was pretty awful. The cover wasn't horrendous, but it felt dated and it didn't seem to really fit the album.

I'm indifferent to the MTAE artwork. It still has a very amateur feel but now it's a bit more polished with a personal touch (the hand writing evokes the SD spirit).

dreams of glass
11-15-2014, 10:58 PM
The back of MTAE has that Pink Floyd- Meddle/MBV-loveless feel to it, as in "what the hell am I looking at, the surface of the moon?" To be honest none of SP's album covers have ever struck me as aesthetically pleasing.

freshfacedyouth
11-15-2014, 11:20 PM
i really like oceania's back cover, even if it's only a simple ocean skyline

Mals Marola
11-16-2014, 12:10 AM
how can anyone not like at least one of the adore covers

machina's pretty pleasing to me for that matter as well, but i guess i could see why some'd pass on it

Araneae
11-16-2014, 12:19 AM
they don't seem to spend much time on the video - Corgan and Jeff were guesting (on a Joy Division song) at the Peter Hook concert tonight at the Metro


If the video really is just a performance video of them in a dark warehouse, then I guess they wouldn't need more than a day.

Peter Hook also shared a photo of him with Billy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2gPiraIcAAGKU9.jpg

Billy has been looking sad and exhausted. It's hard to believe that he's going hit the road soon for some heavy promotion rounds for MTAE.

T&T
11-16-2014, 12:33 AM
how is touring for M2AE going to fit in with recording D4N?

Araneae
11-16-2014, 12:39 AM
I wonder about that as well. There are also rumors floating around that they are going to play lolla in south america as one of the headliners. I dont know how they managed that without even having a band (besides Billy being really close with Perry). His last update mentioned that he was taking a break to work on other things. It seems like a start-stop process on DFN so far.

T&T
11-16-2014, 04:33 AM
and they had already set songs aside for it, but then billy went ahead and wrote 8 songs in 7 days (or something like that).

sounds like they're still making it up as they go.

Forgotten Child
11-16-2014, 10:01 AM
They are supposed to be playing Lollapalooza in Brazil and Chile, March next year.

Forgotten Child
11-17-2014, 05:10 AM
Confirmed:http://www.lollapaloozabr.com/line-up-2015

Funbags
11-17-2014, 06:14 AM
I don't see how Boz can make SP work for Lollapalooza style crowds at this rate. I'm surprised he got booked.

Shallowed
11-17-2014, 07:58 AM
http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com/board_new/#!Monuments-to-an-Elegy-Sampler-Available-Now-with-PreOrder-at-Indie-Record-Stores-/c7ba/37CBDA22-132A-4933-83F3-C86DF192358A

MTAE sampler available with Pre order from selected stores, featuring Being Beige, One and All, and Tiberius

Would be nice to hear more MTAEsers

ninsp
11-17-2014, 11:15 AM
http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com/board_new/#!Monuments-to-an-Elegy-Sampler-Available-Now-with-PreOrder-at-Indie-Record-Stores-/c7ba/37CBDA22-132A-4933-83F3-C86DF192358A

MTAE sampler available with Pre order from selected stores, featuring Being Beige, One and All, and Tiberius

Would be nice to hear more MTAEsers

Thank you, Corgan, for finding the worst record stores in Texas to send them too.

No Cactus in Houston, and no Mad World in Denton.

:rolleyes:

s0ss
11-17-2014, 11:18 AM
absolutely groundbreaking.

MyOneAndOnly
11-17-2014, 11:41 AM
bill needs a cheap band that he can assemble quickly. Getting a bass player for a gig or two wouldn't be as difficult as getting a drummer. I can't imagine Matt getting a call. There's talks of a Morrissey tour next year and another album being recorded. I can't imagine Tommy Lee live on stage with bill. I think the Crue tour lasts well into 2015.


Bill may have no choice but to call the kid. Maybe Mike Burns isn't all the way out.

smashedguava
11-17-2014, 11:57 AM
Tour with beats!


I'm actually looking forward to Geek Usa via drum machine... :beatup:

bye june
11-17-2014, 11:58 AM
Bill may have no choice but to call the kid. Maybe Mike Burns isn't all the way out.

I highly doubt that.

MonteLDS
11-17-2014, 12:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMSDYtxsu4

amoergosum
11-17-2014, 12:05 PM
There's talks of a Morrissey tour next year and another album being recorded.

Here's a new clip with Matt on drums (November 2014) >>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/w0BwN3oBSDs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Araneae
11-17-2014, 12:10 PM
Matt would be the obvious choice for a few shows. Maybe Billy will have a rotating lineup.