View Full Version : Billy retires from Ressistance Pro!


DeusExMachina
03-27-2014, 12:56 PM
Read all about it here. (http://pitchfork.com/news/54534-amc-developing-tv-show-about-billy-corgans-pro-wrestling-league-resistance-pro/)

amoergosum
03-27-2014, 01:04 PM
"The man has his passions, and they will not be denied."

scottytheoneand
03-27-2014, 02:37 PM
"Wait! That's a Walter E Smith Chair!"

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amoergosum
03-27-2014, 02:39 PM
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scottytheoneand
03-27-2014, 02:48 PM
Despite all your rage!

You're still just a rat in the six sides of steel cage!

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Araneae
03-27-2014, 06:26 PM
The article states that it's not a sure thing. The Variety article that Billy posted listed 14 shows being developed. That's way too many. About half of those are going to get cut.

slunken
03-27-2014, 07:03 PM
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like all great cinema, this gets better with every viewing

themadcaplaughs
03-27-2014, 09:07 PM
It is certainly miles above the "Owata" video.

amoergosum
04-01-2014, 03:48 AM
The article states that it's not a sure thing. The Variety article that Billy posted listed 14 shows being developed. That's way too many. About half of those are going to get cut.

So apparently he signed a deal >>>

According to The Pulse Of Radio, SMASHING PUMPKINS frontman Billy Corgan has signed a deal with AMC to produce a new reality series about his independent pro-wrestling organization, Resistance Pro. Variety reported about the show, "Billy Corgan pulls back the curtains on the pro-wrestling world as he takes over creative direction for the independent wrestling company Resistance Pro."

Corgan launched Resistance Pro in 2011, staging its first event, called Black Friday, in November of that year.

Wrestlers who have appeared at Resistance Pro events ******* Harry Smith, Necro Butcher, Raven, Colt Cabana and The Rock And Roll Express.

Corgan was a longtime wrestling fan and expert before launching the league.

The singer/guitarist spoke in 2012 about launching a series about the league, saying, "We believe that wrestling is fascinating on many, many levels. Socially, politically, even economically. The struggles independent wrestlers go through to try to find work. Those are real struggles that anybody can identify with. We want to show what goes on in a wrestling company behind the scenes."

Meanwhile, Corgan and the SMASHING PUMPKINS will release two new albums next year as part of a new deal with Sony BMG.


Source:
www.blabbermouth.net/news/smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-lands-reality-series-for-his-wrestling-league/

Trotskilicious
04-01-2014, 04:43 AM
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so much for being proud of bill for not doing reality tv

Trotskilicious
04-01-2014, 04:44 AM
he'll be on celebrity fit club before long, being a big douche. he'll have a great second career as a big douche on "celebrity" reality tv

scottytheoneand
04-01-2014, 09:45 AM
what we are seeing now is the NEXUS of wrestling, rock n roll and reality entertainment

it's absolutely groundbreaking

fuzzyroes
04-01-2014, 09:14 PM
he'll be on celebrity fit club before long, being a big douche. he'll have a great second career as a big douche on "celebrity" reality tv

Heh, I had always thought to myself that it was only a matter of time before Corgan inevitably takes some reality TV gig.

scottytheoneand
04-01-2014, 09:18 PM
he'd be good on America's got talent

Trotskilicious
04-01-2014, 09:20 PM
that would enable him to be a huge condescending dick and entertain people

fuzzy is right, he has that douchebag entitlement that just works so well on celebrity reality tv

Trotskilicious
04-01-2014, 09:21 PM
it really is only a matter of time before bill is on the surreal world relaunch with bret michaels, one of those child stars from the 80s if any are still alive, and tila tequila

amoergosum
04-02-2014, 02:59 AM
I'd like to listen to a conversation between early 90's Billy and 2014 Billy.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-02-2014, 10:56 AM
hello, biboergosum!

dodoz
04-04-2014, 08:50 AM
like all great cinema, this gets better with every viewing

:rofl:
Indeed.
This is proof that the real Billy died around 2000 and was replaced by a lookalike, right ?

amoergosum
04-04-2014, 05:36 PM
“Currently we are filming the pilot for AMC for the Resistance Pro reality show. If it’s picked up, we will be filming in Chicago, to show off this great city”.

Source:
http://wxrt.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/billy-corgan-los-lobos-hundreds-of-xrt-listeners-celebrate-opening-day-in-wrigleyville/

pavementtune
05-16-2014, 03:59 PM
“Untitled Billy Corgan Wrestling Project” will consist of eight 60-minute episodes. The leader of The Smashing Pumpkins is now creative director of Resistance Pro, a Chicago-based wrestling league.Viewers will see Corgan create storylines, choreograph fights and manage intense post-match locker room arguments.
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http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/amc-gives-nod-to-celebrity-bowling-unscripted-billy-corgan-series-1201183683/

killtrocity
05-16-2014, 04:32 PM
Billy's Wrestling Show would be 14 times better than Small Town Security, Freakshow, or whatever fucking crap AMC is dicking around with these days. Once Mad Men ends, that network is going to be a shitshow for idiots. Whoever is making these executive decisions ought to be bludgeoned with a diarrhea filled shopping bag

Syrial Carpens
05-16-2014, 04:37 PM
I think the title should remain as "Untitled Billy Corgan Wrestling Project."

Syrial Carpens
05-16-2014, 04:38 PM
Billy's Wrestling Show would be 14 times better than Small Town Security, Freakshow, or whatever fucking crap AMC is dicking around with these days. Once Mad Men ends, that network is going to be a shitshow for idiots. Whoever is making these executive decisions ought to be bludgeoned with a diarrhea filled shopping bag

At least we have Better Call Saul to look forward to. I'm fearful that they're going to fuck it up, though.

Araneae
05-16-2014, 04:58 PM
Billy's Wrestling Show would be 14 times better than Small Town Security, Freakshow, or whatever fucking crap AMC is dicking around with these days. Once Mad Men ends, that network is going to be a shitshow for idiots. Whoever is making these executive decisions ought to be bludgeoned with a diarrhea filled shopping bag

Was there a change in terms of executives? This reality show direction does seem unusual. It certainly hasn't really worked out for CNN (with their docu-dramas). I personally dislike reality shows and wrestling so I think I'll skip this one. I'm sure someone will post if something interesting happens.

slunken
05-16-2014, 07:11 PM
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fuzzyroes
05-16-2014, 07:24 PM
Corgans finally succumbed to the dreaded reality show trend... To make matters worse its a goddamned wrestling reality show.

I'm a grown man for heavens sake, I certainly won't be watching this nonsense.

T&T
05-17-2014, 08:37 AM
Some how I'm suspecting that the Tommy Lee drumming is tied in to this shit.

Pizza Club
05-17-2014, 01:03 PM
^ Nah, he's been talking about this for a while. This is the only way he'll make any money on his wrestling stuff. He knew going into wrestling that this was the goal.

I'm pretty excited about Halt and Catch Fire but I'm really interested in that period.

amoergosum
05-18-2014, 12:00 PM
"Miss. Prig ‏@MissPrig
How dare that pesky @billy Corgan intuerrupt my dance at @RESISTANCE_Pro Savage Amusement last night...what a dweeb!"

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killtrocity
05-19-2014, 12:11 AM
Was there a change in terms of executives? This reality show direction does seem unusual. It certainly hasn't really worked out for CNN (with their docu-dramas). I personally dislike reality shows and wrestling so I think I'll skip this one. I'm sure someone will post if something interesting happens.

no idea, but it's absolutely baffling. I think they're misinterpreting their market. Since BB was never really "mainstream" until the last season or 2, and even then was sort of a niche thing, it's like they're assuming that people who are into offbeat stuff automatically like any weird sort of subculture that isn't mainstream. Like freakshow crap and hicks and comic books. But what made BB wasn't the fact that it was removed from the mainstream, it was the production. It was successful DESPITE the fact that it catered to a relatively narrow audience.

Araneae
05-19-2014, 11:01 AM
no idea, but it's absolutely baffling. I think they're misinterpreting their market. Since BB was never really "mainstream" until the last season or 2, and even then was sort of a niche thing, it's like they're assuming that people who are into offbeat stuff automatically like any weird sort of subculture that isn't mainstream. Like freakshow crap and hicks and comic books. But what made BB wasn't the fact that it was removed from the mainstream, it was the production. It was successful DESPITE the fact that it catered to a relatively narrow audience.

Could be, it looks like they just jumped on the bandwagon, since a lot of other networks are going down this route. I just read a little blurb about "Freakshow" and I'm even more puzzled by their foray into reality TV. It seems like such a backwards move after losing Mad Men and Breaking Bad. At least they still have Walking Dead to keep them afloat. The concepts of these reality shows seem dubious at best, but Corgan's may be the least ridiculous of the bunch. Though, I'm not sure how many average wrestling fans would really be interested in a behind-the-scenes of a local, small promotion. Modern wrestling fans already know it's fake and choreographed, so most seem to prefer watching live action shows. But, to be perfectly honest, the whole live action wrestling thing is a mystery to me. I've had people tell me that they find it entertaining but everything I've seen is slow paced with story lines that are worse than soap-operas. It's like watching baboons yell and fling shit at each other.

slunken
05-19-2014, 11:34 AM
It's like watching baboons yell and fling shit at each other.

:netphoria

Araneae
05-19-2014, 11:40 AM
It's really not so bad.

Araneae
05-19-2014, 11:42 AM
Billy with another short essay
MUSINGS ON A RESISTANCE
RPRO

When I first partnered up with brothers Jacques and Gabe Baron to form what was than an-as-yet unnamed wrestling company, I mapped out an idea I had that we should shoot for an unscripted television show first rather than the traditional model of putting matches on television. And though we’ve done some local stuff here in Chi-town, I didn’t pursue the opportunities I had to find bigger platforms, so stuck was I on the idea that this was the route for us to take.

Along the way, 2 plus years and counting, we’ve had lots of talented people come and go; some of who are and will remain my friends. The reasons of course have much to do with the business of business: and all business is personal; no matter what anyone tells you; cause when they want you, they want you, and when they don’t? Well, you know how that ends.

So what does this have to do with The Smashing Pumpkins, 2014-style? Friday, 4.16.14 SP guitarist Jeff Schroeder joined part of our cast for a 2nd time, playing as he does in the band of Resistance Pro’s Heavyweight Champ Jocephus; his character the mysterious Necromancer. And so too is my younger brother Jesse involved, who some of you might know as ‘SPACEBOY’ from the album Siamese Dream. But not all agree that that even those facts are pertinent to the impersonal, never-ending business of selling shit: records-digital files-squiggly lines in some faraway hard drive. So I’ll get back to that question in a moment, if you will.

Here’s a fact: only one person from R Pro’s first show remains, and this includes wrestlers, announcers, and even referees; excepting legend Raven, who is very involved with the television show. And that wrestler is Sarah Worley, better known as D’arcy Dixson, who when we started our company had never ever been in a ring; her wish she told us just to take part. And not too ironically it was D’arcy who opened this winding story pulling back the curtain of our debut, and D’arcy who ended up a champion.

When I got the call Friday that we were indeed partnering up with the AMC Network, I was beyond thrilled. Because I’ve said from the beginning this is where we wanted to be. And soon you’ll hopefully be able to see what I see: young people with grand dreams, and legends who can’t quit a business they love. All fighting we hope for the continued success of Resistance Pro.

It is in essence our shot. Or better put: the aspirations of one family; my family.

So back to SP: and what Zuzu’s, Hexestential Graphics, AEGEA, WPC, The Ivory Tower, PAWS, Chin Chin, Ling Ling, Sammi, Mr. Thom, Herr Howard, Motley Crue, and even Resistance Pro have to do with the making of my music?

Everything.

W.P.C.

Araneae
05-19-2014, 11:56 AM
He forgot blackhawks, cubs, bears, pescetarianism, and PETA.

amoergosum
05-19-2014, 01:21 PM
LOL >>>


When I got the call Friday that we were indeed partnering up with the AMC Network, I was beyond thrilled. Because I’ve said from the beginning this is where we wanted to be. And soon you’ll hopefully be able to see what I see: young people with grand dreams, and legends who can’t quit a business they love. All fighting we hope for the continued success of Resistance Pro.

It is in essence our shot. Or better put: the aspirations of one family; my family.

amoergosum
05-20-2014, 04:23 PM
"MetalGirl ‏@heavymetalnoise
@Billy @JesseCorgan36 & @MissPrig photo by the great @thepunkvault"

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amoergosum
05-21-2014, 10:38 AM
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Funbags
05-21-2014, 11:27 AM
>>> Jesse Corgan?

fuzzyroes
05-21-2014, 08:32 PM
you better believe it

reprise85
05-21-2014, 08:37 PM
this is going to be spectacular.

reprise85
05-21-2014, 08:38 PM
we're going to get to see corgan yelling at people and then crying and being all dramatic what could be better

i mean, its a fake reality show about a fake sport.

amoergosum
08-15-2014, 02:34 AM
[at 1:10]

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The AMC camera guy is totally messing up the shot of the WGN camera guy
at 0:24, forcing him to zoom in >>>

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aztec litany service
08-15-2014, 04:38 AM
what he should've done was got a fleet of ice cream trucks and have em play ice-cream-truck style versions of ..say...every SP song, or every one with a decent enough melody to ice-cream-truck-ize. idk, it's not any worse than wrestling.

amoergosum
08-19-2014, 03:21 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>If you a'int going to church Sunday, come visit us <a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a> bell time 5PM AND: our 1st taping for our unscripted series on <a href="https://twitter.com/AMC_TV">@AMC_TV</a></p>&mdash; Billy Corgan (@Billy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy/statuses/501715211225948160">19. August 2014</a></blockquote>
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killtrocity
08-19-2014, 10:31 PM
Gotta be honest, I would probably watch this.

we're going to get to see corgan yelling at people and then crying and being all dramatic what could be better



for exactly that reason

Ram27
08-19-2014, 10:36 PM
unscripted

lol

Trotskilicious
08-21-2014, 06:34 AM
unscripted tv series, not the wrestling. jesus.

Trotskilicious
08-21-2014, 06:34 AM
but hell maybe the wrestling is improv

Zucchini Duke
08-25-2014, 12:03 PM
damn, didn't know Billy was Vince fucking McMahon now

amoergosum
09-13-2014, 06:10 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>Plus, we're still taping for our unscripted television show. Come see the magic for yourself, and be a star! <a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a></p>&mdash; Billy Corgan (@Billy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy/status/510243791999991808">12. September 2014</a></blockquote>
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Copperpot5
09-13-2014, 07:02 AM
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amoergosum
09-14-2014, 10:05 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>Humbled to spend the morning at <a href="https://twitter.com/VeteransHealth">@VeteransHealth</a> with <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy">@billy</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a>. cc: <a href="https://twitter.com/serafinassoc">@serafinassoc</a> <a href="http://t.co/2I7915jpK6">pic.twitter.com/2I7915jpK6</a></p>&mdash; Angela Heuer (@angelaheuer) <a href="https://twitter.com/angelaheuer/status/510527454709288960">12. September 2014</a></blockquote>
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James
10-10-2014, 07:56 AM
AMC Exits Unscripted Programming To Focus On Scripted Series

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/amc-abandons-unscripted-programming-focus-013609875.html

"Three years after it entered the unscripted arena, AMC is pulling out to focus on its core scripted business. Of the network’s unscripted portfolio, only The Walking Dead hit aftershow Talking Dead and Kevin Smith’s Comic Book Men will continue. Any other production or development of unscripted shows is being discontinued. AMC has about 10 employees in New York and Los Angeles who focus on unscripted programming. Some of them will continue to service AMC’s two remaining series, though some likely will leave as part of the programming shift."

I assume this includes Corgan's show so this might not see the light of day. Blessing in disguise? Probably would end up being embarrassing anyway.

James
10-10-2014, 08:04 AM
Confirmed...canceled.

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Here-How-AMC-Completely-Changing-Its-Programming-Lineup-67776.html

"Also scrapped: a show about Smashing Pumpkins’ Billy Corgan’s time as the creative director for an independent wrestling league. We’re not shedding any tears over that one. The good news for everyone is AMC is perfectly willing work with other networks on finding these projects a new home. "

Maybe we will get to see this on the extra special Oceania reissue coming out in 2032?!

Elphenor
10-10-2014, 08:35 AM
lol at the one comment under that article

Araneae
10-10-2014, 09:55 AM
This is not surprising, but it's probably quite a blow to Billy.

bye june
10-10-2014, 12:13 PM
The good news for everyone is AMC is perfectly willing work with other networks on finding these projects a new home.

Maybe it will end up on another network? I really don't care...I'll watch it if it airs but I won't be sad if it never does.

amoergosum
10-11-2014, 05:08 AM
It's a sign from the universe, Billy.

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T&T
10-11-2014, 07:40 AM
first his machina cartoon cancelled, now his unscripted wrestling show. will the guy ever catch a break?

pavementtune
10-11-2014, 10:32 AM
When Real Isn't Real, and Fiction Is
October 11, 2014

According to various 'news' sources, Resistance Pro no longer has a television show in production. Which is funny, because I'm currently in Minneapolis with R Pro filming that 'cancelled' show

Think of it this way: a band starts making album. But halfway thru process the Label they're on decides they only want a certain type of music (in this case: original programming, not unscripted). Band keeps making album while another label is found. Simple, but with various unknowns.

news: "AMC is canning reality shows but will help to find them another network."
Corgan: wrong reports, I still have my show, it's getting recorded right now!!


So here's what I can share: AMC Network so far has been great. As have our production partners Left-Right, who are with us here to film tonight's event. And though there are grim elements to a story like this (change, people getting fired) there might yet be a silver lining.

I for one have worked for 3 years on this, and after innumerable meetings and lawyers and all that jazz, I remained convinced that we have in our hands a groundbreaking show. Yes, that means to imply that you can have pro wrestling and groundbreaking in the same sentence.

And though there have been huge disappointments along the way (the least of which is the low hanging fruit: of rockstar + wrestling = stupidity, etc; the greatest involving how the addition of cameras turns usually normal folk into Pontius Pilate), I still hold on to the notion that it is better to try to break molds than preserve them. And with this show, as-yet untitled, we have; and if given the chance: we will.

But not before I take a sober look at what's involved. And not before I contemplate what any further interface with the world (beyond rock and roll) asks of me.

As most of you who read the Nexus know, I have a new album coming out in less than 2 months. And invariably I'll be asked, 'why do a show like this?'

The answer, if there is one, is because the show explores a truly unexplored sub-culture; filled as it is with good souls and troubled ones. And what happens to that sub-culture if you add, like a deus ex machina, a kind hand. If American cultural life is any indication, something innocent will be sacrificed for something cheap; and that, my friends, is where the real 'why' question should be asked.




reading is hard for me, too.
did he just call his circus of fake violence and amateur porn "innocent" and scripted series like Breaking Bad "cheap"?
he wouldn't, right...


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Mals Marola
10-11-2014, 10:53 AM
i got the impression he was talking about whichever unscripted show they'd actually kept on

pavementtune
10-11-2014, 11:18 AM
i got the impression he was talking about whichever unscripted show they'd actually kept on

aaah, thank you, that would make more sense.
cheap as in... he has no idea what he's referring to, since he never saw either or has any idea of viewing numbers and reasons to keep those up.
Like when he's referring to current bands and the lack of good music without listening to it... :erm:


only two unscripted series will remain in AMC's lineup: the Chris Hardwick-hosted Walking Dead companion series Talking Dead and Kevin Smith's Comic Book Men.

Gene Simmons and Corgan should get together and lick their wounds - the KISS' arena football show now needs to find a new network, too.

Araneae
10-11-2014, 04:03 PM
As expected, Corgan seems really sore over this. Though, I'm not sure why he's trying to make it seem like the show is still in production, it's not like finding a new network is going to be easy. It took two years just to get one's attention. I just don't see this project going anywhere. The only wrestling that can still draw numbers is the WWE, so I don't see a network (considering all the competition and other issues they face) picking this up.

Araneae
10-11-2014, 04:05 PM
I understand that he's passionate about wrestling, but I think he'd be hard pressed to convince most people that it's a groundbreaking subculture.

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:31 PM
mods please change thread title to "billy corgan is NOT getting his own wrasslin' tv show"

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:33 PM
he'd be hard pressed to convince most people that it's a groundbreaking subculture.

that's actually the exact opposite of why he enjoys it. he likes it because it's the complete opposite of groundbreaking. he sees it as one of the oldest forms of the performing/entertainment/carnival/vaudeville/theater/whateveryouwanttocallit arts still in existence today.

he explains it better in interviews. it's an interesting take on the subject for sure.

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:35 PM
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Araneae
10-11-2014, 04:48 PM
that's actually the exact opposite of why he enjoys it. he likes it because it's the complete opposite of groundbreaking. he sees it as one of the oldest forms of the performing/entertainment/carnival/vaudeville/theater/whateveryouwanttocallit arts still in existence today.

he explains it better in interviews. it's an interesting take on the subject for sure.

In the post he just put up he said he has a truly "groundbreaking show" and "the show explores a truly unexplored sub-culture". So, I don't know, he says a lot of things.

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:51 PM
okay so like even if that's true you're the one that combined groundbreaking and subculture from two different quotes. not that it matters but i'm just saying.

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:53 PM
here's some saturday school for you: in the first quote he says the show could be groundbreaking. in the second quote he explains that this is because he feels that the subject matter is an unexplored subculture.

Mals Marola
10-11-2014, 04:53 PM
that's the show, not the actual wrestling stuff though
he just seems to think people are really missing something not getting that backstage wrasslin' glance

Mals Marola
10-11-2014, 04:53 PM
shit slunken!

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:53 PM
now put your head down on your desk for the next 50 minutes.

slunken
10-11-2014, 04:54 PM
both of you

Araneae
10-11-2014, 04:55 PM
okay so like even if that's true you're the one that combined groundbreaking and subculture from two different quotes. not that it matters but i'm just saying.

ah, I see what you mean now. I didn't realise I had done that. It was not my intention, it's just me being lazy. I meant he would be hard pressed to convince people it's a groundbreaking show that represents a true subculture (personally, i think wrestling has been quite mainstream since the WWE).

slunken
10-11-2014, 05:03 PM
presents a true subculture (personally, i think wrestling has been quite mainstream since the WWE).

he's speaking about how you can trace the roots of modern theatrical wrestling as far back as at least the early 1800s. BC explains in some interviews that he finds it interesting because he sees it almost as an ancient form of theater arts that somehow still exists relevently today. you can't necessarily say the same thing about magic or ventriliquism or even circuses and all the acts that they contain.

i'm sure the show wasn't going to attack this historical angle i'm just saying this is how bc has explained his own interest in the subject. he's a history buff everyone knows that.

slunken
10-11-2014, 05:04 PM
i mean i'd rather have him be into watching wrestling than say sword swallowing, minstrelism, and navy tattoos

Araneae
10-11-2014, 05:08 PM
Yeah, i temember him talking about that now. That's the thing, though, I didn't think he would actually present it through a historical lens. But then again, Billy also likes to say that wrestling is just like Shakespeare, which is ridiculous, that's like comparing anything that has a script and a stage to Shakespeare's works because they have those in common.

lionheart0
10-11-2014, 05:16 PM
i mean i'd rather have him be into watching wrestling than say sword swallowing, minstrelism, and navy tattoos

What about about a Pawn Stars type show. Call it Pawn Starz. I can just see him now scowling at people behind the counter when they try getting fresh with the amount of money they want.

slunken
10-11-2014, 06:53 PM
What about about a Pawn Stars type show. Call it Pawn Starz. I can just see him now scowling at people behind the counter when they try getting fresh with the amount of money they want.

Airplane mode means nothing to me

Musica
10-12-2014, 03:16 AM
https://twitter.com/PJPOLACO/status/521178110885371904
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzuYtvbCUAEMi12.jpg

Woody
10-12-2014, 03:45 AM
Kirsten Dunst is in the show?

Elphenor
10-12-2014, 03:52 AM
It actually makes sense that Corgan would dig wrestling when you really think about it even though it's stupid and everything

amoergosum
10-12-2014, 07:03 AM
https://twitter.com/PJPOLACO/status/521178110885371904
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzuYtvbCUAEMi12.jpg

Kirsten Dunst is in the show?

>>>

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The exploding boy
10-12-2014, 12:58 PM
Remember when Kirsten Dunst was hot? Such a long time ago... this is way after that time though that's probably still the best she's looked since like 2001.

Anyway i'd like to laugh at Corgan's love of wrestling but i own the first two Mick foley autobiographies so...

It's like that weird shameful thing i want to pretend i never cared for but i totally did watch it as a kid and then again some time in the 90's, like in early adulthood. When i bought those Mick Foley books, i hid them from my gf for like a year but it turns out she didn't shame me for them when she found them (more like made her sad I thought she might judge me for owning them)

But yeah, I have a feeling McMahon was never worried.

amoergosum
10-12-2014, 01:13 PM
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Ram27
10-12-2014, 01:30 PM
that's actually the exact opposite of why he enjoys it. he likes it because it's the complete opposite of groundbreaking. he sees it as one of the oldest forms of the performing/entertainment/carnival/vaudeville/theater/whateveryouwanttocallit arts still in existence today.


That's a pretty cool reason, actually.

Araneae
10-12-2014, 01:36 PM
I would never shame anyone for liking wrestling, it's certainly not my thing but I don't mind that other people like it. I just question why Billy felt the need to completely consume his life with wrestling and go as far as starting his own promotion. He talks about it nonstop, he even invites them to his interviews, and his social life now seems to solely revolve around them. It's just a strange turn of events for a guy whose life was consumed by music and art at one point.

juliana
10-12-2014, 04:40 PM
I would never shame anyone for liking wrestling, it's certainly not my thing but I don't mind that other people like it. I just question why Billy felt the need to completely consume his life with wrestling and go as far as starting his own promotion. He talks about it nonstop, he even invites them to his interviews, and his social life now seems to solely revolve around them. It's just a strange turn of events for a guy whose life was consumed by music and art at one point.

It isn't unlike how some of his fans are to him. He is just a geek with money. The answer is cause he can.

Elijah Moon
10-12-2014, 05:27 PM
I think he needs his own planet.

Araneae
10-12-2014, 07:09 PM
It isn't unlike how some of his fans are to him. He is just a geek with money. The answer is cause he can.

These kind of things take a great deal of time, effort, and money to keep going. It's not just a little hobby for someone who has more money than they know what to do with. It could be that he just didn't realise how much work this would all actually take. This wrestling endeavour has consumed most of his time (and probably a lot of his money) and has affected his mental state, couple this with his tea shop and online store, it really does not leave a lot of time for him to do what he does best; he wears himself out. He starts too many things, more than he can handle, he gets bitter and disappointed, and then things are often abandoned.

The exploding boy
10-12-2014, 07:54 PM
He starts too many things, more than he can handle, he gets bitter and disappointed, and then things are often abandoned.

I thought THAT'S what he did best.

Mals Marola
10-13-2014, 12:56 PM
So apparently he signed a deal >>>



Source:
www.blabbermouth.net/news/smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-lands-reality-series-for-his-wrestling-league/

i love how this apparently meant nothing

fuzzyroes
10-13-2014, 07:15 PM
Billy should just hook up with VH1 and make a new wrestling show. They've had plenty of shows staring former rock-stars over the years. This shit would be right up their alley.

James
11-14-2014, 12:17 PM
http://southtownstar.chicagotribune.com/news/31000817-418/billy-corgan-lockport-brothers-seek-new-tv-partner-after-amc-cancels-wrestling-show.html

Billy Corgan, Lockport brothers seek new TV partner after AMC cancels wrestling show

Friday night’s live wrestling show in Lockport was scheduled to be filmed by the AMC cable network for a reality TV series featuring the event’s organizers and Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan.

But things didn’t go as planned.

“AMC essentially canceled reality TV, so right now, we’re in limbo,” Corgan said. “... (Friday’s event) had been planned to be one of the episodes.”

He and the wrestling promoters he works with, brothers Jacques and Gabriel Baron, of Lockport, learned last month that AMC executives are canceling all of the network’s reality shows to focus entirely on scripted programming, such as the highly popular “Walking Dead.”

Corgan and the Baron brothers formed Resistance Pro Wrestling in 2011, with Corgan working for free as the company’s creative director, coming up with story lines for the wrestling characters.

The AMC show had been promoted as following Corgan in his latest venture, bringing “his creative genius to the world of professional wrestling.” Filming began in August, and Jacques Baron said four episodes were completed before the program was canceled.

He and Corgan are fairly confident that another network will pick up the show.

“It’s not going to be a hard sell,” Baron said.

He said executives from another network could possibly buy the show from AMC or just start over from the beginning. Baron said he also could envision a pay-to-play service running the show, such as Netflix or Hulu.

“I’d be happy with anything,” he said.

In either case, Corgan, an avid pro wrestling fan, loves what he does and has been committed to Resistance Pro.

He’s been busy working on a new Smashing Pumpkins album due to be released next month and said he left the recording studio early Friday to work on the wrestling show, which also was a fundraising event at Taft School.

“It’s been a pretty wild ride,” Corgan said about working on Resistance Pro.

He was busy Friday in the Taft gymnasium before the show, coaching several wrestling performers about their stories for the evening. Wrestler Mike Bradley said he spoke with Corgan about his character, but Bradley mostly wanted to know how he could advance his status at Resistance Pro.

“Wrestling is a ‘make it up as you go’ type of thing,” Corgan said. “There are a lot of egos. Everyone has their own ideas. I’m trying to keep it consistent and move everyone in some direction.”

He said many performers dream of making it to the WWE and Resistance Pro is like a top-level minor league of wrestling.

Marshe Rockett, of Park Forest, is no exception.

The 29-year-old aspiring WWE wrestler is special education teacher at Alan Shepard High School in Palos Heights. He has been with Resistance Pro since it began three years ago and has been wrestling for 12 years.

“I love everything that is about Resistance Pro,” Rockett said. “They’re more about characters and stories and not just about wrestling.”

He believes Corgan’s creativity is a major contribution to that story-telling philosophy, which helps get the crowds engaged.

“I think he adds a little spice to it,” Rockett said. “He takes the ordinary and makes it extraordinary.”

The audience of more than 300 people, many of whom were young boys, was very engaged with the action Friday night.

“It’s hilarious,” said Bill Murray, of Lockport, who brought his son, a fourth grader at Taft, and two other boys. “These kids are having a blast.”

Taft School District 90 Supt. D.J. Skogsberg said it “would’ve been great” if AMC had filmed the event, but he appreciated the fundraiser.

“We jumped on the opportunity,” he said.

Resistance Pro usually puts on shows in Willowbrook at the Barn at Arabian Knights Farms, but Baron said they’re looking to get more involved with schools.

killtrocity
11-14-2014, 12:18 PM
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p640x640/522084_529589337176953_8988009348559530434_n.jpg?o h=3ec7d58edb5f9b4a3831a107a346f0c4&oe=54E66CF5

Funbags
11-15-2014, 09:26 AM
Boz just tweeted that he's leaving Resistance Pro:

https://twitter.com/Billy/status/533626852242235392

slunken
11-15-2014, 10:03 AM
came in here to post this too

Mals Marola
11-15-2014, 10:06 AM
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Araneae
11-15-2014, 10:10 AM
Can't say that it's completely surprising, given that his TV deal was cancelled. While it's typical of him to jump ship when things don't go his way, it's probably one of the best decisions he has made in a long time. He started this and his tea shop up around the same time, the tea shop needs to go next. I think it will make him a better artist if he focuses on his work.

amoergosum
11-15-2014, 10:52 AM
As I mentioned previously...the cancellation is a sign from the universe...'don't waste your time with wrestling'.

juliana
11-15-2014, 11:03 AM
For some reason I think there is more to this story.

I will be more surprised if the tea shop closes because he uses it to meet interviewers and do random things.

I think the tea shop being able to sell 50k worth of tea to 1000 fans easy. Will have bill keep it for a bit. I could see him dumping it, if he decides to move.

Araneae
11-15-2014, 11:15 AM
Move? The shop, you mean?

I just don't think that using his fans to buy tea is a viable long term plan, he either needs to hire intelligent and capable people or move on. Like his wrestling thing, he has spent way too much time and money in the shop with few results. It's just an added distraction and source of stress. At this point, if he just wants to market to his fan base, it just makes more sense to keep the online store but close the physical space.

juliana
11-15-2014, 11:27 AM
I mean move, like live somewhere else. If he drops the tea shop, he won't have a place to do some bleep bloops and dj nights.

Araneae
11-15-2014, 11:36 AM
I see now, I just don't think he's ever going to leave that house.

Anyway, hopefully he doesn't start up another wrestling company or buys one. If there is more to the story it could very well be an internal conflict between the owners.

Ram27
11-15-2014, 12:18 PM
Gabe Baron I think is just a piece of shit. I think he’s one of the worst human beings I’ve ever met in my life.

Jaques is a mean spirited drug addict.




x

juliana
11-15-2014, 12:35 PM
I see now, I just don't think he's ever going to leave that house.

Anyway, hopefully he doesn't start up another wrestling company or buys one. If there is more to the story it could very well be an internal conflict between the owners.

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't see eye to eye with what they were doing. I think this was a good descision, he tried to make it work but it didn't happen. For zuzus, the question now is how long can he continue with rodrick, that tea dude. He could always change the direction of zuzus, to keep the space.

Forgotten Child
11-15-2014, 03:59 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>For those interested, I've left RESISTANCE PRO WRESTLING, officially and unofficially. Details to follow in the coming weeks</p>&mdash; Billy Corgan (@Billy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy/status/533626852242235392">November 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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werideatdusk
11-15-2014, 04:18 PM
i for one, like the tea shop. bill wouldnt give it up, its a refuge from reality in there

juliana
11-15-2014, 05:30 PM
Omg! What if this is all part of some Rpro storyline?

amoergosum
11-15-2014, 06:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>And though this is by no means a way to reach them, I'd like to thank the talented wrestlers, managers, and valets I've worked with</p>&mdash; Billy Corgan (@Billy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy/status/533627197789962241">15. November 2014</a></blockquote>
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amoergosum
11-15-2014, 06:23 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>...and as <a href="https://twitter.com/HouseofHardcore">@HouseofHardcore</a> tees up tonight hearing <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy">@Billy</a> legit rolled <a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a> is the best thing he has done in years...</p>&mdash; Lou DAngeli ♫ (@LDAngeli) <a href="https://twitter.com/LDAngeli/status/533686344166686722">15. November 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>It's truly sad because <a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a> had a chance but knowing what I know...and I know a lot...I am not surprised at all...</p>&mdash; Lou DAngeli ♫ (@LDAngeli) <a href="https://twitter.com/LDAngeli/status/533687038625984512">15. November 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>...when you have someone like <a href="https://twitter.com/Billy">@Billy</a> as the face and backbone of your company...and you can't make it work? Pfffft. Joke.</p>&mdash; Lou DAngeli ♫ (@LDAngeli) <a href="https://twitter.com/LDAngeli/status/533687395431231488">15. November 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>...<a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a> had passion but passion and a small taste of success can make you blind to things you need to go to the next level...</p>&mdash; Lou DAngeli ♫ (@LDAngeli) <a href="https://twitter.com/LDAngeli/status/533709979262648321">15. November 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>This is amazing <a href="https://twitter.com/RESISTANCE_Pro">@RESISTANCE_Pro</a>! I was being nice and you blocking me is amateur hour. I can still tweet about ya! <a href="http://t.co/VSLV22ICmD">pic.twitter.com/VSLV22ICmD</a></p>&mdash; Lou DAngeli ♫ (@LDAngeli) <a href="https://twitter.com/LDAngeli/status/533714697326182400">15. November 2014</a></blockquote>
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Araneae
11-15-2014, 06:40 PM
This is shaping up to look like another dumb storyline.

amoergosum
11-15-2014, 06:43 PM
http://ohitsjustawful.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/120313-billy-corgan.png

juliana
11-15-2014, 07:58 PM
I got blocked by resistance pro long ago cause I told them that their logo was awful.

Euronomus
11-18-2014, 02:15 AM
Thank God.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/11/billy-corgan-retires-from-pro-wrestling-to-launch-career-in-musical-theater/

amoergosum
11-18-2014, 02:40 AM
Thank God.


What...you love musical theater?...;)

killtrocity
11-19-2014, 10:36 PM
AMC probably didn't have room between Freakshow and Small Town Security

T&T
11-20-2014, 12:58 AM
well, that was a thing I'll forget about eventually. thank god.

and wtf does 'officially and unofficially' mean? is he retard monte speak forget what words mean? uh doy

amoergosum
11-20-2014, 05:52 AM
RAGING AGAINST THE KILLING WRESTLING MYTHICAL MACHINE/SP TOUR UPDATE WITH ADDED THOUGHTS ON MY DEPARTURE FROM RESISTANCE PRO AND 'PRETTY PERSEPHONE'

November 20, 2014

Dateline: Rock and Roll, Stairway to Heaven…

So in practice, as we have been for the past 4 days, one wonders at the marvel that is alternative rock whence played with power; or as a band I knew once spelled it: 'powa'. And there's powa abounding with Mr. Will on drums, and filigreed finesse in thrown slabs with Herr Stoermer. To say I'm excited undercuts what's obvious; which is we're blessed they're both here. Simple as that.

Other news indicates they'll soon be more shows added to. Some possibly sooner than you'd think. 'Not so simple', says I, for there are lyrics to learn/re-learn.

And for those that troll this website a) I haven't RETIRED from anything; and that includes professional wrestling and b) I've been pursuing work with musicals FOR YEARS. Shock, a'int it, that a songwriter such as I would write music? So let's move on that…

Howard, having departed for sunnier climbs, left just as I was dusting up the essential materials for PRETTY PERSEPHONE; which will debut in December at The Music Theatre Company of Highland Park. I expect that will to be done tomorrow. And of course there's been all these demos which I've neglected to write about for reasons such as: business, boredom (my own), struggles (repeat), and an uncertain sense of where DAY FOR NIGHT might go.

But that destination is clear now. Album sessions to resume in January.

Wrestling. Resistance Pro. Let's start here: I was asked the other day, 'do you worry about what people will think because you are involved with BLANK? (Blank being pro wrestling, synthesizer music, or CHARITY animal shelter magazines).

Answer: NO. Because if those things make someone dislike my musical life/output then they are marks FOR THEMSELVES.

Answer: I am not here to serve anyone but G-O-D. (Happiness being but one way by which 'to serve')

Love abounds, always. So let me say for those of you that don't know those in my life, I love them all. And if you don't know Jacques and Gabriel Baron, you should. Family men. Love their kith and kin. Beautiful children. And my brothers through and through.

Around Resistance Pro Wrestling Jacques would always say to the roster, 'we are family'; and I believed that. Still do.

But there's a time where you might split too from the family home because you disagree with what's going on. Just as I did when I was kid from my own. And you don't always have to know 'why' or even define what it is that's bugging you out. You just know something's amiss.

It's hard leaving, I'll admit. For I put more into the company than I should have, so strong was my belief. And perhaps that blinded me. But I am forever grateful for the opportunity to lead, to share, to execute a vision which it would be easy to argue was not successful where it mattered most: at the gate. Yet my focus was to build a futuristic promotion that could run on every level in the 21st century. And that got us as far as a contract with the vaunted AMC Network.

All things come with a cost, and the cost of that commitment was watching a decently balanced company with a dream devolve into something I considered beneath my place in the world. For it isn't wise to make someone like me the foil when the upside is so unseen, and small, and counter-intuitive to that future as planned. And it wasn't like this disintegration wash't transparent, for there were cameras everywhere.

So when the show was cast into purgatory by AMC's decision to cut the majority of their unscripted (nice word for reality) programming, many (and I heard this) felt relief, while others celebrated as if it was any other day in the life of a circus; our greatest opportunity possibly squandered with the stroke of a pen.

Personally, I didn't see much accountability on the part of those who'd fallen off the company mantra, and I found this puzzling. And so began an investigation as to those 'whys and wherefores.'

Some suggested that there were other intentions afoot, which may or may not have involved my being used, or worked, or manipulated to create short-sighted opportunities for the company even should those efforts harm me in a number of ways; with the biggest victim, beside my 'name' being so readily used and abused, a diminishing enthusiasm. But still, this made no sense; for why would anyone want me out of the company when all I'd ever been told was how welcome I was? Or even the simple idea that my presence opened doors that wouldn't have been otherwise opened?

Make no mistake, I've committed a tremendous amount of time to R Pro and the advancement of the roster in particular. For we had a lot of talent under the roof; all of which deserve a call and more open explanation from me than I'd offer here. So don't let anyone tell you I wasn't in all the way.

And the additive of what I heard, saw, learned was that my partners didn't have my back in the way I thought they should; and by extension, were working against what I saw as their once-in-a lifetime lottery ticket for success in television. BUT: not everyone wants to win the lottery.

What's this really mean? That the company will soldier on without me. Perhaps they'll thrive, or survive? I hope they do. And the best thing I hope for is that The Baron's as a family get out of their promotion what they think is best. It's clear to me now that's probably what they wanted all along.

Remember, I was never an owner in any capacity. This was by my suggestion. Even though under various circumstances and guises it was offered. I simply headed up the creative focus in story-lines and in some cases developed characters.

But wait, there's a swerve! The tv show is still being shopped, with 4 shows in the can. AMC having given their assistance with the possibility that what's there can be picked up by an interested network. And I for one believe that the show AS CONCEIVED would draw fantastic ratings. Should that happen, I'd deal with how to pick up from where it all left off: by telling the story of these various implosions from those who lived it, and who'd carry on as well. And that, my friends, IS wrestling….

As an executive producer, would I ******* R Pro management in that? That'd depend. But the trust where it's needed (in business) is long gone.

How about anyone from the roster? Absolutely. Whether or not it's this as-yet-unfinished tv show, or a new version of it, or the new promotion I'd start forthwith, I believe-believe-believe in the talent of that roster. And as anybody who is in wrestling knows, there are some incredible souls out there who deserve a different kind of shot, and I aim to be one of those people building to something different for that exact purpose.

For as with someone like me, the business often overlooks talent in seeking the obvious. See every pop-singer-blah blah show for evidence of that.

So, to be clear: I left because Resistance Pro was no longer the company I thought I'd helped build from the ground up. And maybe, one might say, it never was...

The shows, the fans, the wrestling injuries, the heartaches, those I know were all real. The rest, I couldn't say. Time will tell who's friend or foe, and who thought me another easy touch.

Last thing: don't let anyone tell you wrestling's fake. The world is no more real.



W.P.C.



Source:
http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com/#!RAGING-AGAINST-THE-KILLING-WRESTLING-MYTHICAL-MACHINESP-TOUR-UPDATE-WITH-ADDED-THOUGHTS-ON-MY-DEPARTURE-FROM-RESISTANCE-PRO-AND-PRETTY-PERSEPHONE/c7ba/0918F0AB-C64C-406E-B569-E245C87C3826

Grox
11-20-2014, 06:03 AM
i really appreciate how he writes on nexus, like he's sliding in and out of cupid de locke land

Trotskilicious
11-20-2014, 07:32 AM
i like how people still make fun of him for merely liking wrestling which is now at a point in pop culture where sports blogs like grantland actually cover it

he's just part of the mainstream

Woody
11-20-2014, 01:05 PM
I like how he's once again blaming his previous business partners, much like his bandmates, for the failure of an enterprise.

juliana
11-20-2014, 06:20 PM
That Lou dude has been saying this was going to happen for awhile. He told Billy more than once on twitter they were using him and not who they say they are.

pavementtune
11-21-2014, 06:44 PM
very Smashing Pumpkinsish

[...]
Corgan, who had the final say in creative matters, started to become frustrated and decided to leave after several wrestlers “went into business for themselves” during the filming of the AMC series based on Corgan’s work with Resistance Pro. He decided that it was the last straw after a series of problems and left. Another version of the story suggests that the Barons were giving the wrestlers instructions that they claimed were “given to them by Corgan.” When Corgan asked why they acted a certain way, they said it was what he wanted. This happened with names like Robert Anthony, Darcy Dixon, Nikki St. John and Jay Bradley and more.

Corgan was the person that led to the AMC reality show deal, as well as the hype and talk about the promotion. It’s unknown what will happen to the show now that he’s gone. Sources connected to Corgan mentioned his frustration with the lack of promotion for live events, the lack of sponsorships and flat ticket sales, which weren’t good for someone with Corgan’s name value. Corgan even tried to contact Lou D’Angeli (former WWE executive and Cirque du Soliel executive), who he’s known since ECW, for help with promotion and sponsorship. D’Angeli was a part of the promotion but left after he was forced to choose between Corgan and Raven, who gave him his break.

One wrestler said: “The locker room is disenchanted, to say the least. Too many broken promises and none of them came from Corgan.”

Corgan doesn’t appear to be done with professional wrestling. It appears as though he is working on new project with talent from Resistance Pro and outside the promotion. He may do something similar to what Tommy Dreamer does with House of Hardcore, but there’s no word on when that might happen.

When asked about the situation on November 18, Gabriel Baron released the following statement:
RESISTANCE Pro Fans and Friends,

As many of you may have heard, Billy Corgan has left his role as Creative Director for RESISTANCE Pro. Owners Gabriel and Jacques Baron – as well as the staff and roster of RESISTANCE Pro – will be eternally in his debt for everything he did during his time with us. He opened up doors and offered opportunities to us that would otherwise had been unobtainable for an independent professional wrestling promotion. His creative outlook and noble dedication to charity have inspired us since day one, and we will continue to keep those lessons near and dear to our hearts. There would not have been a RESISTANCE Pro without him guiding it since its inception back in 2011, and we will always respect and be in his debt for that.

RESISTANCE Pro has always been a professional wrestling company and that is what we will continue to be. Our sense of community is the heart of the company that keeps us moving forward into 2015. The New Year offers many new possibilities, change, and a challenge to ourselves that only we can meet. On January 17, 2015 we present our first show of 2015 – ANIMALS – in this new era of RESISTANCE Pro. It’s a fundraiser for the South Suburban Humane Society – a charitable cause that does amazing work in our community. We ask that longtime fans of R-Pro join us that evening to celebrate our past and the curious give us the opportunity to entertain you with an exciting new product. Our goal is to entertain and have fun while doing some good. Let’s make that happen – together.

Happy Holidays and thank you for your support,

Gabriel Baron
Jacques Baron

Owners
RESISTANCE Pro, LLC.

http://www.prowrestling.com/backstage-news-billy-corgan-quit-resistance-pro/?

Ram27
11-21-2014, 06:48 PM
started to become frustrated and decided to leave after several wrestlers “went into business for themselves” during the filming of the AMC series based on Corgan’s work with Resistance Pro. He decided that it was the last straw after a series of problems and left.

AAHAHAHAHAH

oh my god


this is satire right