View Full Version : Puff Daddy's "Ava Adore" remix


cardiac
08-28-2014, 10:19 AM
Hear Diddy's Unreleased Smashing Pumpkins Remix, 'Ava Adore' - Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/diddy-smashing-pumpkins-ava-adore-premiere-20140828)

So there's that. Better than I expected.

Cool As Ice Cream
08-28-2014, 10:26 AM
working link: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/diddy-smashing-pumpkins-ava-adore-premiere-20140828

Cool As Ice Cream
08-28-2014, 10:49 AM
So there's that.

^ this

adamdanger!
08-28-2014, 10:50 AM
That was pretty fucking awful. Which Bond movie is it from?

amoergosum
08-28-2014, 11:01 AM
That was pretty fucking awful.

Yep.

http://www.lauryndoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Diddy-Bop-Writing-a-book.gif

slunken
08-28-2014, 11:34 AM
Oh man can't wait to hear this

Tootles
08-28-2014, 11:46 AM
Beautiful. Love it. FU Adam

James
08-28-2014, 11:52 AM
So fucking awful

Tootles
08-28-2014, 11:57 AM
FU too James

amayain
08-28-2014, 12:03 PM
yikes.

adamdanger!
08-28-2014, 12:23 PM
Beautiful. Love it. FU Adam


It's the loveliest Enrique Iglesias song I've ever heard

Elphenor
08-28-2014, 12:34 PM
That was hilarious

Forgotten Child
08-28-2014, 12:41 PM
It's the loveliest Enrique Iglesias song I've ever heard

:rofl:

I just said that there is some "Latino" influence on this remix... It sounds like La Isla Bonita (Madonna) or Spanish Guitar (Toni Braxton)... I just don't know what it is, but it is not good at all.

Funbags
08-28-2014, 12:44 PM
Didn't Billy say something like "People will see Puff Daddy in a whole new light!" or some junk? And then D'arcy rolled her eyes?

null123
08-28-2014, 01:09 PM
Very emotional

null123
08-28-2014, 01:12 PM
He made Billy's vocals sound pretty sexy

themadcaplaughs
08-28-2014, 02:56 PM
Expectations were at rock bottom, so I was not too upset. It's P. Diddy for God's sake. Anyway, someone needs to post a link to this on D'arcy's Facebook page. I dare say she's been vindicated.

Ramdust
08-28-2014, 03:10 PM
I like it

F.Delacroix
08-28-2014, 03:15 PM
Very emotional

haha

F.Delacroix
08-28-2014, 03:20 PM
it's funny but it's true

panda show
08-28-2014, 03:22 PM
26:48
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/UWwGBXV07fA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

panda show
08-28-2014, 03:25 PM
I still lol at the guy in the background at 17:16, I think there's a gif of that somewhere

soniclovenoize
08-28-2014, 03:34 PM
Hmmm I like how he created an entirely different chord progression underneath the lead melodies. Very clever Puffy.

But yet it sounds really cheesy and dated. I'm sure I would have loathed it when I was 18. Now it's just kinda silly.

Gooch
08-28-2014, 03:55 PM
I wish puffy yelled "REMIX!" throughout the song as rappers often do.

or, "WHAT!?!". Thats pretty common too.

Lost opportunity I guess to tear up the BET music awards charts

s0ss
08-28-2014, 03:58 PM
26:48
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/UWwGBXV07fA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

those tits though

butthurt
08-28-2014, 04:32 PM
Crestfallen camp not happy about this leak.

slunken
08-28-2014, 04:40 PM
I still lol at the guy in the background at 17:16, I think there's a gif of that somewhere

<a href="http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/slunken_2007/SP%20LOL/?action=view&current=creepinsmall.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/slunken_2007/SP%20LOL/creepinsmall.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>

Ram27
08-28-2014, 04:42 PM
Lucky kid.

That dress makes it hard to choose seeing an Adore show over seeing a golden era show.

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:19 PM
dang this is great i just wish he chopped the vocals some

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:20 PM
:rockon:

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:20 PM
i wish this had been a single with a dub version and an instrumental

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:21 PM
holy fuck when the solo drops in

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:25 PM
yea the vocals really need something else going on with them. there doesn't seem to be any vocal editing except for some added delay at the end of the two "in you i..." lines. although that might be on the original take for all i know

i think the symphonic mix really needs some room to breath but bc's raw vocal just keeps coming at you like a straight up pop song. on one hand it's kind of interesting because it rushes you through the track. like i mentioned before it would be nice to have this as a single with a dub and an instrumental to compliment.

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:26 PM
moby's 1979 remix is still the best commercial remix

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/l1V9XuUjoUw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

panda show
08-28-2014, 05:28 PM
Lucky kid.

That dress makes it hard to choose seeing an Adore show over seeing a golden era show.depends on what's 'golden era' to you?

slunken
08-28-2014, 05:29 PM
depends on what's 'golden era' to you?

well for example he just "discovered" slow dawn a few weeks ago

Order 66
08-28-2014, 05:34 PM
i always thought this thing was an urban myth

Spira|_
08-28-2014, 07:18 PM
Worth listen. Liked.. And listen to billys voice so clean and loud was nice!

vbshlofbvgos
08-28-2014, 10:33 PM
It sounds a lot different from what I was expecting. That said, I don't believe I'll ever listen to it again.

themadcaplaughs
08-28-2014, 11:01 PM
There are a few videos I can think of off the top of my head that pretty much encapsulate why Smashing Pumpkins, in its original incarnation, was bound to break up. One is that video from 2000 where Billy is making fun of James for being sick. The other is that MuchMusic video. It has every conceivable awkward moment.

-In the unedited version, Billy snapping at that kid who asks about Jimmy Chamberlin (I WON'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COURTNEY LOVE, MARILYN MANSON, OR JIMMY CHAMBERLIN!)
-James sitting completely silent and staring into space. On the occasion he does respond, he gives a three word answer or is interrupted by Billy.
-D'arcy giving Billy shit every step of the way, and Billy saying "are you going to behave" when D'arcy starts making fun of P. Diddy
-Billy making a joke about James and D'arcy having sex in the past, and then looking hurt when they make fun of him for being bald.

vajohna
08-28-2014, 11:27 PM
I like it

Yep. Like the Flemion Pug remix, it's nice to hear Billy's vocals in this era.

Butt Pope
08-28-2014, 11:41 PM
GD billy looks so young in that video

butthurt
08-29-2014, 02:41 AM
Artist's rendering of Crestfallen camp when news of this leak broke:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/e830aca9024315eb0af051e299dc4316/tumblr_mnoi62XloK1sp3mbro1_500.gif

wHATcOLOR
08-29-2014, 03:13 AM
hahahah this is pretty silly

Cool As Ice Cream
08-29-2014, 03:22 AM
camp crestfalen is crying VERY MUCH
cash rewards!

Trotskilicious
08-29-2014, 03:23 AM
There are a few videos I can think of off the top of my head that pretty much encapsulate why Smashing Pumpkins, in its original incarnation, was bound to break up. One is that video from 2000 where Billy is making fun of James for being sick. The other is that MuchMusic video. It has every conceivable awkward moment.

-In the unedited version, Billy snapping at that kid who asks about Jimmy Chamberlin (I WON'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COURTNEY LOVE, MARILYN MANSON, OR JIMMY CHAMBERLIN!)
-James sitting completely silent and staring into space. On the occasion he does respond, he gives a three word answer or is interrupted by Billy.
-D'arcy giving Billy shit every step of the way, and Billy saying "are you going to behave" when D'arcy starts making fun of P. Diddy
-Billy making a joke about James and D'arcy having sex in the past, and then looking hurt when they make fun of him for being bald.

usually i make fun of people for speculating but yeah, this is pretty much THE END these people actually hate each other, or at least two of them hate a rampaging mentally ill person who's ego has climbed the empire state building and is now swatting at birplanes

amoergosum
08-29-2014, 03:55 AM
"Why did you let Puff Daddy remix Ava Adore and Perfect?"
>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWwGBXV07fA&feature=youtu.be&t=26m29s

Woody
08-29-2014, 04:07 AM
That was alright, I wouldn't skip it and I think the change in chord progression is neat. It's just a bit too busy and overwrought. Pleased to have it on the set, finally.

But of all the Adores songs, the original Ava Adore hasn't aged that well.

panda show
08-29-2014, 04:14 AM
-Billy making a joke about James and D'arcy having sex in the past, and then looking hurt when they make fun of him for being bald.it's funny that right after that question billy explained how important james and d'arcy were to the music of the band

15 years later he has contradicted that statement about a hundred times and then approved it again a hundred times after realizing he was right in the first place

Shallowed
08-29-2014, 04:15 AM
Hmmm I like how he created an entirely different chord progression underneath the lead melodies. Very clever Puffy.

But yet it sounds really cheesy and dated. I'm sure I would have loathed it when I was 18. Now it's just kinda silly.

My exact thoughts. It is quite impressive that the vocal track is virtually untouched yet the whole song is in a minor key instead of the original major key.

But yeah, it's extremely dated, especially the freaking DJ scratching.

amoergosum
08-29-2014, 04:29 AM
Sook-Yin Lee: WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE. IRWIN,

HI. SINCE THE DEPARTURE OF JIMMY, WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM NOW?

Billy: FIRST, YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHO JIMMY IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT NAME...

JIMMY, THE EX-DRUMMER.

Billy: DOESN'T RING A BELL. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE?

Sook-Yin Lee: SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT ONE? YOU'RE AVOIDING IT.

Billy: DON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COURTNEY LOVE, JIMMY CHAMBERLIN OR MARILYN MANSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

---

Sook-Yin Lee: SO I UNDERSTAND YOU TAME HORSES ON YOUR FARM. I WONDER, DOES THAT EVER COME IN HANDY IN DEALING WITH YOUR BANDMATES, THAT SKILL OF TAMING HORSES?

James: THE HORSE/BASS WHISPERER.

Billy: IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE USED TO RIDE JAMES?

D'Arcy: YES, I DID, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.

Sook-Yin Lee: OH, TRASHY!

Billy: SHE WOULD JUST GRAB A MANE OF HAIR AND GO.

D'Arcy: YEAH! YEAH! WHO'S MISSING ALL THEIR HAIR? NOT JAMES!

Sook-Yin Lee: OH! WHAT IS THIS, "JERRY SPRINGER" ALL OF A SUDDEN?

Billy: CAN WE STOP TAPING AND ROLL IT BACK FIVE MINUTES TO THE START AGAIN?

---

Sook-Yin Lee: THIS FELLOW RIGHT HERE HAS A QUESTION. FROM OTTAWA, TREMENDOUS FAN... I WAS WONDERING TO WHAT EXTENT THE NON-MUSICAL DYNAMICS WITHIN THE BAND AFFECT THE MUSIC?

Billy: THAT'S A VERY ASTUTE QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD THINGS ABOUT THE PUMPKINS IS THAT IT IS THE INNER DYNAMIC THAT WE HAVE THAT MAKES OUR MUSIC VERY POIGNANT TO US. AND PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP IN LIKE "I DID THIS. THEY DID THAT." IT'S NEVER BEEN LIKE THAT WAY FOR US. IT REALLY IS THE CHEMISTRY BETWEEN US. THE OTHER DAY I WAS DOING AN INTERVIEW AND THE GUY ASKED ME "WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR JAMES AND D'ARCY TO STILL BE IN THE BAND?" AND I SAID, "WELL, EVERY SONG THAT I'VE EVER WRITTEN THAT MEANS ANYTHING TO ME, JAMES AND D'ARCY WERE IN THE ROOM." SO WHATEVER THAT CHEMISTRY IS, WHATEVER DYNAMIC WE HAVE, IT'S A MAGICAL THING, AND AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T EVEN QUESTION IT. I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT D'ARCY REALLY IS THE MORAL CONSCIENCE OF THE BAND; I MEAN, D'ARCY IS THE STRONGEST PERSON IN THE BAND. AND JAMES IS PROBABLY THE MOST SENSIBLE, SO BETWEEN THE THREE OF US... AND I'M THE ONE OVER THERE. IN BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM... THERE'S A POLAR AXIS THAT GOES ON THAT LEVELS ME OUT AND I THINK PULLS THEM IN AND OUT. SO IT'S PRETTY AMAZING.

James: YOU'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG! (Laughing)

---

Sook-Yin Lee: "GUITAR WORLD" BROUGHT TO YOU BY... WE HAVE AN E-MAIL QUESTION HERE... LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MONITOR.

D'Arcy: GOOD QUESTION!

Billy: ARE YOU GOING TO BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOUR HERE?

D'Arcy: I WON'T SAY ANOTHER WORD.

Billy: THANK YOU. I THINK HE'S A BRILLIANT GUY. I KNOW HIM A LITTLE BIT PERSONALLY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU MEET THE PERSON AND YOU END UP WITH A DIFFERENT OPINION OF THE PERSON THAN MAYBE WHAT YOU WOULD GET FROM JUST WHAT YOU HEAR AND WHAT YOU SEE ON TV.

D'Arcy: YOU MEAN JUST LISTENING TO THE MUSIC HE WRITES?

Billy: YEAH, I MEAN HIS STYLE OF MUSIC IS NOT NECESSARILY THE KIND OF MUSIC WE LISTEN TO, BUT I RESPECT WHAT HE'S DOING MUSICALLY. IT'S THE KIND OF THING WHEN YOU MEET SOMEONE PERSONALLY, YOU GET A WHOLE OTHER PERSPECTIVE OF THEM. AND I FEEL LIKE I HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE OF HIM, SO I HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN HIM TO REMIX A COUPLE OF OUR SONGS. AND I'M TELLING YOU -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT OUT ANYTIME SOON, BUT WHEN YOU ULTIMATELY HEAR THE "AVA ADORE" REMIX THAT HE DID, IT'S SO UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL AND SO GREAT... IT WILL PROVE ALL THE DOUBTERS OUT THERE WRONG ABOUT HIM. HE REALLY, REALLY IS A REALLY TALENTED PERSON. AND I TOTALLY STAND BEHIND A DECISION LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, HE'S A MUSICIAN; WE'RE A MUSICIAN. AND ULTIMATELY, ON SOME LEVEL, YOU KNOW -- I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A RACIST THING, BUT AT SOME LEVEL PEOPLE START TO QUESTION IT BECAUSE THE WORLDS ARE SO FAR APART SOMETIMES. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I WOULD RATHER REACH ACROSS TO THE OTHER WORLD AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS BECAUSE PEOPLE GENERALLY DON'T MAKE THOSE KINDS OF CONNECTIONS. HOWEVER ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT... I THINK HE'S A GREAT MUSICIAN. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE AFRAID BECAUSE MY WHITE AUDIENCE MIGHT GET MAD ABOUT US USING SOMEONE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. I JUST THINK IT GETS INTO THAT TERRITORY, AND I JUST THINK HE'S A GREAT MUSICIAN.

---

Sook-Yin Lee: YEAH. AND HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN YOUR CREDIBILITY?

Billy: WELL, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR OUR LADY PEACE'S PHONE NUMBER.

Crowd: OHHHH! [*hahahaha*]

Sook-Yin Lee: WHOA!

Billy: WE HAVEN'T GOT IT YET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CALL THEM UP AND MAKE FRIENDS WITH THEM, TELL THEM THANKS A LOT FOR KEEPING OUR OLD MUSIC ALIVE. WHAT ELSE, JAMES?

James: WELL, WE LIKE PUFF DADDY. HE ACTUALLY DID A REMIX FOR US.

D'Arcy: SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, MAN.

James: THAT'S HOW WE'RE STAYING CURRENT. WE HAVE OUR EAR TO THE STREET.

Sook-Yin Lee: YOU JUST DECIDED UPON HIM 'CAUSE YOU LOVE HIS WORK?

James: THAT WOULD BE A BILLY DECISION. THE DICTATOR, YEAH. FORCED IT ON US.

Shallowed
08-29-2014, 06:15 AM
Whenever Billy says something regarding race, it always has to be kind of misconstrued

https://ia601701.us.archive.org/10/items/tsp1994-04-17.flac16/tsp1994-04-17t09.mp3

Gooch
08-29-2014, 11:07 AM
the band always had that sarcastic mentality dealing with each other. I think they just matured and were outright blatant with their feelings as they got older. that being said, all i see is darcy's eye rolls from that interview (when asked about puffy) when i listen to this remix. :rolleyes:
dont know what puffy was going after. i t hink this was around the time he redid the led zeppelin song too, which wasnt that bad. the godzilla OST. this is awful compared.
and i wonder if SP camp authorized this release/tease. this song and lmgtwty were imo the big secrets on the adore reissue that most people wanted to hear. now both are out, and the opinions have been less than stellar.

there goes the #1 album on the charts again! :rolleyes:

F.Delacroix
08-29-2014, 11:26 AM
birplanes


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vajohna
08-30-2014, 12:28 AM
God help you, I hope that the Puffy Ava Adore remix is not something you were waiting to hear.

alberto
08-31-2014, 03:41 AM
Here is a direct rip, you nincompoops (sounds way better than the webrip)

http://www.albert0.nl/AvAdorePuffy.mp3

And it's a great remix.

O'Doyle Rules
09-06-2014, 05:39 AM
I love how all his "white suburban" fans disregarded his P.Diddy remix because his white fans can't accept it; yet that is the largest demograph of rap/hip-hop music. Perhaps a turd, is just a turd.

Trotskilicious
09-06-2014, 05:43 AM
i dare you to make less sense

Tootles
09-08-2014, 09:06 AM
I am a white suburban fan and I like it.

Bread Regal
09-08-2014, 01:24 PM
This is so terrible. Unlistenable amateur shit.