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Gooch
08-19-2014, 05:16 PM
margin

Gooch
08-19-2014, 05:16 PM
There goes my reason for visiting this message board every day. It was fun while it lasted. It renewed my excitement for SP. More than the reissues. Oh well. :(

http://www.seenontvproducts.net/leakender2000/Leak%20Ender%202000.jpg

panda show
08-19-2014, 05:19 PM
well, I think mr. sheeps is now banned, but if he were here he could give us the rest of the stuff through a different source (private messages and such)

D.
08-19-2014, 05:25 PM
Re-register, mass PM to dump a bit more, then take off again.

Cool As Ice Cream
08-19-2014, 05:26 PM
what was the last song that got out? (did i get them all so far?)

Araneae
08-19-2014, 05:26 PM
Billy doesn't want you interfering with his plan to release the stuff as overpriced tea bundles at zuzus.

Cool As Ice Cream
08-19-2014, 05:28 PM
as if he's planning to release any of this. not a chance.

D.
08-19-2014, 05:28 PM
what was the last song that got out? (did i get them all so far?)

I you got 9, you have them all.

panda show
08-19-2014, 05:29 PM
what was the last song that got out? (did i get them all so far?)a machina-era (probably) demo of without you

panda show
08-19-2014, 05:30 PM
Re-register, mass PM to dump a bit more, then take off again.he can just re-register and PM them to you or anybody else trustworthy and let everyone else mass PM it to others
and then he will run off mexico way

D.
08-19-2014, 05:34 PM
Unless I'm missing something, father Andrew took away my admin/mod status because of my thread.

Real cool, Andy!:smoke:

adamdanger!
08-19-2014, 05:36 PM
Lame. Most excited I've been in a long while.

Eulogy
08-19-2014, 05:43 PM
What leaked?

Gooch
08-19-2014, 05:48 PM
as far as i see it, In the arms of sheep is an awesome song. ( as were all these leaks, IMO) It should have been released by now. the fact that it wasnt on the reissues, makes me thing it never was going to be released. Its been 18 F'In YEARS! WTF! This reignited my passion for SP. Albeit temporarily, now, I guess.

redbull
08-19-2014, 05:48 PM
pretty shitty. I guess b0lly probably threatened to sue. there goes my motivation to visit the site

hey pakula, fix the margin error while you're here

D.
08-19-2014, 05:52 PM
What leaked?

Just the nine songs, ending with Without You.

redbull
08-19-2014, 05:55 PM
we'll never know what leaked #harddelete

Eulogy
08-19-2014, 05:56 PM
... What nine songs? I have no idea what's going on.

absof
08-19-2014, 05:56 PM
pretty shitty. I guess b0lly probably threatened to sue. there goes my motivation to visit the site

hey pakula, fix the margin error while you're here

I think the margin error has been fixed. See first post..

redbull
08-19-2014, 05:57 PM
I think the margin error has been fixed. See first post..

i just randomly got donator status so i wasnt sure

Andrew_Pakula
08-19-2014, 05:58 PM
hey pakula, fix the margin error while you're here

I was going to look at fixing it but it appears its working ok now?

redbull
08-19-2014, 06:00 PM
question: does no posting "unreleased smashing pumpkins material" also extend to things like the reel time sessions, adore demos, etc? or just those nine mp3 files?

absof
08-19-2014, 06:00 PM
i just randomly got donator status so i wasnt sure

I saw that too; (Thank You for Supporting Netphoria!) Just figured some new code had been written?

smashingjj
08-19-2014, 06:16 PM
Things are getting interesting.

Wait does this mean I have a CUSTOM USER TITLE?!??!?!

D.
08-19-2014, 06:18 PM
Things are getting interesting.

Wait does this mean I have a CUSTOM USER TITLE?!??!?!

HAVE FUN I DIED SO THAT U could HAVE A CUSTOM TITLE

Shallowed
08-19-2014, 06:24 PM
question: does no posting "unreleased smashing pumpkins material" also extend to things like the reel time sessions, adore demos, etc? or just those nine mp3 files?

For some reason I doubt it. All those other demo collections have been around for ages and Billy hasn't minded.

smashingjj
08-19-2014, 06:31 PM
HAVE FUN I DIED SO THAT U could HAVE A CUSTOM TITLE

WELL DIE BETTER NEXT TIME CAUSE I DON'T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE ANYTHING

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D.
08-19-2014, 06:32 PM
http://www.billboard.com/files/stylus/110909-phil_collins_Neale-Haynes.jpg

workingdogv1
08-19-2014, 06:32 PM
Damn, I guess it was inevitable. These leaks lit a fire under my ass as well. Oh well.

milk-plus
08-19-2014, 06:35 PM
How big were the cash rewards?

smashingjj
08-19-2014, 06:37 PM
I wonder if Corgan could sue Pakula for the leaked songs. There was only an anonymous poster that posted links to files hosted elsewhere. I understand Pakula doesn't feel like getting into any kind of legal action whatsoever but I wonder if Netphoria can be held liable in any way because of these uploads.

redbull
08-19-2014, 06:38 PM
considering they werent even hosted on the site i doubt it

D.
08-19-2014, 06:41 PM
Isn't this the same as when blogs used to post links to full albums. Theyd say they were third party links and all they'd do was take down whatever was asked by the record company or the artist. Big whoop no big bucks.

smashingjj
08-19-2014, 06:44 PM
You speak of these blogs as though they would be ancient history, RedWineCage

T&T
08-19-2014, 06:45 PM
this is lame.

D.
08-19-2014, 06:52 PM
You speak of these blogs as though they would be ancient history, RedWineCage

I know nothing!

slunken
08-19-2014, 06:53 PM
Unless I'm missing something, father Andrew took away my admin/mod status because of my thread.



Good. It's all your fault.

... What nine songs? I have no idea what's going on.

Typical.

slunken
08-19-2014, 06:53 PM
this is lame.

^

bs1933
08-19-2014, 06:59 PM
I don't get what the big deal is about these leaks. To me, it really seems like a missed opportunity. There has been a lot of buzz around the reissues obviously, and the SPRC (released what, 5 songs?) was a complete fail. Lucky13. Fail. And let me guess these old demos he is "transferring"? Probably fail. I'm sure someone else can think of other logs to throw in the fail fire...

There have been demos out there for every album up through Adore. People get really jazzed about demos and with the really mixed (or negative) reactions to everything from Zeitgeist forward it seems like a great opportunity to keep up the hype IMO.

pavementtune
08-19-2014, 07:02 PM
Prince tried to sue a bunch of fans for re-posting dl links to live boots on facebook.
these folks had not uploaded the recs, weren't hosting them, they posted links.
He dropped it, but still.

It's not rocket science, dl links to the reissues or the DVDs weren't "advertised" on the boards before, keep this stuff to pms. That's everybody's personal responsibility and doesn't fuck the owner of this site.

Gooch
08-19-2014, 07:02 PM
I am thankful for the hard work put into the reissues. So dont get me wrong, Billy Pats. But I'd rather hear 'In the arms,' a kick ass 'new' song, versus a TTEOR variation thats 2% faster and has a cowbell intro. Would you rather Rush's Tom Sawyer with a louder tamborine in the mix, or a kick ass unreleased Rush song that you only heared rumours of for the past 17 years?? And if you found this song online, and shared it with your homies, would you want to be sued for cash rewards? BIG Cash rewards? While you were away at Summer Camp? huh, would u?

redbull
08-19-2014, 07:03 PM
Prince tried to sue a bunch of fans for re-posting dl links to live boots on facebook.
these folks had not uploaded the recs, weren't hosting them, they posted links.
He dropped it, but still.

It's not rocket science, dl links to the reissues or the DVDs weren't "advertised" on the boards before, keep this stuff to pms. That's everybody's personal responsibility and doesn't fuck the owner of this site.

prince is insane though. he also tried to sue people for posting pictures of their prince tattoos

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:06 PM
dl links to the reissues or the DVDs weren't "advertised" on the boards before,

this being d's fault, exclusively

smashingjj
08-19-2014, 07:06 PM
I am thankful for the hard work put into the reissues. So dont get me wrong, Billy Pats. But I'd rather hear 'In the arms,' a kick ass 'new' song, versus a TTEOR variation thats 2% faster and has a cowbell intro. Would you rather Rush's Tom Sawyer with a louder tamborine in the mix, or a kick ass unreleased Rush song that you only heared rumours of for the past 17 years?? And if you found this song online, and shared it with your homies, would you want to be sued for cash rewards? BIG Cash rewards? While you were away at Summer Camp? huh, would u?

I'd choose the louder tambourine version right away if the other song was STOLEN and UPLOADED ILLEGALLY like these songs!!! You are no real fan!!

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:07 PM
prince is insane though.

also d's fault

Gooch
08-19-2014, 07:13 PM
NARC! :banging:

D.
08-19-2014, 07:15 PM
Good. It's all your fault.

Yup. All my fault. Victim-blamer.

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:15 PM
Got the promo (and honor when you think about it) of his life when an astronaut sang his Space Oddity, and what does he do? Gets the video removed for copyright infringement.


That's not Bowie. Those are random lawyers sending out generic cease and desist letters trying to get money out of Bowie by showing what they can do.

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:18 PM
Got the promo (and honor when you think about it) of his life when an astronaut sang his Space Oddity,

also want to point this out for lols

It's 2014. To hell with anyone that hasn't heard Space Oddity by now.

Gooch
08-19-2014, 07:19 PM
I think D did the right thing. We're all gonna die someday. Why not enjoy this smorgasbord of music? I was having a shitty day the other day, put on some of these demos, and BAM! I felt better. Aint that what music, and art, is about?

I was gonna put on pastichio medley reversed extras, but In the Arms won.

Araneae
08-19-2014, 07:21 PM
My favorite is still master Bowie. Got the promo (and honor when you think about it) of his life when an astronaut sang his Space Oddity, and what does he do? Gets the video removed for copyright infringement.


Bowie wasn't the one who removed that video.

Here's a snippet that explains a bit of what happened with that


The commentary erroneously claimed that Mr. Bowie refused to renew a one-year licence previously granted to Commander Hadfield, ultimately forcing the video to be removed from worldwide distribution.

That was incorrect. Subsequent to running this piece, we were informed by Mr. Bowie of the following facts: In April of 2013, while Commander Hadfield was still in space, his people contacted Mr. Bowie to seek permission to make the video.

They were informed that while Mr. Bowie would give his full support to the use of the song by Commander Hadfield, Space Oddity was the only one of more than 300 songs he has written and recorded for which he did not own or control the copyright. Mr. Bowie offered to have his people call the publisher and convey his strong support, but he had no ability to personally dictate any of the terms of the licence or even require the publishers to issue one.

Immediately thereafter, Mr. Bowie made contact with the publisher of the composition expressing his wish that they allow Commander Hadfield the right to record and synchronize his recording to the video he was proposing to make. Mr. Bowie strongly suggested that the licence be immediately issued at no charge and that the creation of this video had his enthusiastic support.

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:21 PM
D should also compile all the threads and comments about the Adore reissue so we can have that so conveniently packaged and obvious to the casual lurker as well. After all, we are responsible and we have a job to do.

Gooch
08-19-2014, 07:28 PM
dont kill the messenger. thanks to the leakers for sharing these too. you made a whole bunch of people happy (and some sad I guess). But more people happy than sad. :love:

pavementtune
08-19-2014, 07:28 PM
Bowie wasn't the one who removed that video.

Here's a snippet that explains a bit of what happened with that

Oh, missed that, only read about it in a newspaper and believed it. Good to know I can still like him.

Gooch
08-19-2014, 07:29 PM
so were any cash rewards handed out yet?

D.
08-19-2014, 07:30 PM
D should also compile all the threads and comments about the Adore reissue so we can have that so conveniently packaged and obvious to the casual lurker as well. After all, we are responsible and we have a job to do.

You're an elitist. Bye.

Gooch
08-19-2014, 07:31 PM
why bother making this message board easy to navigate? it should be like the Machina Mystery, and difficult to decipher. Thats the way Zero would have wanted it.

bs1933
08-19-2014, 07:35 PM
To be fair to D... I'm pretty busy at this point to visit this site as often as I once did. I often just come and scroll through pages looking for links. I think that putting the leaks in 1 named thread really doesn't matter. It's pretty easy to find any copyrighted material. For instance - a lot of the posts over time in the music trading section.

I wouldn't blame D, but maybe come up with a better system for sharing things. Like anyone with a joined before date or # of posts is eligible for a PM. Just my 2 cents.

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:41 PM
You're an elitist. Bye.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/slunken_2007/tumblr_mbi6dztSBi1qzfcdpo1_500_zps2660650b.jpg (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/slunken_2007/media/tumblr_mbi6dztSBi1qzfcdpo1_500_zps2660650b.jpg.htm l)

deadaswarhol
08-19-2014, 07:43 PM
can someone uh....pm me....something.......


...........


:(

slunken
08-19-2014, 07:51 PM
Billy. Billy! Pick up the phone, Billy, I know you're home. It's Jesus. I'm very angry with you. I'm going to punish you, Billy.

juliana
08-19-2014, 08:19 PM
That's not Bowie. Those are random lawyers sending out generic cease and desist letters trying to get money out of Bowie by showing what they can do.

Nevermind, someone said what I wanted to above.

Ram27
08-19-2014, 09:45 PM
i'm glad that i downloaded the tenth track just in time. tis a shame that the thread got deleted though.

you're funny

Ram27
08-19-2014, 09:48 PM
I'd also like to note this is all monte's fault for alerting Corgan of the leaks. Fuck you monte, you micro penis douche bag.

Yeah, what a shame.

We only got three (four?) Machina demos and they were fucking fabulous. Imagine if Monte held off tattling long enough so we could get the whole disc.....

killtrocity
08-19-2014, 10:18 PM
My favorite is still master Bowie. Got the promo (and honor when you think about it) of his life when an astronaut sang his Space Oddity, and what does he do? Gets the video removed for copyright infringement.


False.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/apology-to-david-bowie

They were informed that while Mr. Bowie would give his full support to the use of the song by Commander Hadfield, Space Oddity was the only one of more than 300 songs he has written and recorded for which he did not own or control the copyright. Mr. Bowie offered to have his people call the publisher and convey his strong support, but he had no ability to personally dictate any of the terms of the licence or even require the publishers to issue one.

killtrocity
08-19-2014, 10:25 PM
Soo to what website would one go for information on any future leaks? Can we discuss such things? There are obviously other demos, otherwise why pressure the boss man to cease allowing links to such material? Unless Bolly is planning on releasing this stuff, which seems unlikely, but who knows. Either he wants people to buy it in the future, or he wants to hoard it forever, in which case, fuck him.

What about F9?

Ram27
08-19-2014, 10:35 PM
netphoria0a9sndfaosdf93.onion

bye june
08-20-2014, 12:01 AM
Billy. Billy! Pick up the phone, Billy, I know you're home. It's Jesus. I'm very angry with you. I'm going to punish you, Billy.

Pick up the motherfuckin' phone! C'mon loser. I know you're laying there watching cable. Hello? Oh maybe you're not home, maybe you're out lookin' for a job. Not.

Trotskilicious
08-20-2014, 12:01 AM
Criticism of David Bowie will not be tolerated. The U.N. has granted him the title of Coolest Mutherfucker on the Planet. Anything he does is by nature, cool.

coolest motherfucker in the <i>universe</I>, which he definitely traveled the breadth of in his spaceship powered by how awesome he is

Saih
08-20-2014, 02:09 AM
Corgan you stupid piece of shit.
Thanks Sheep, at least someone was doing something positive for the 'band'

Fonzie
08-20-2014, 02:20 AM
Unless I'm missing something, father Andrew took away my admin/mod status because of my thread.

Real cool, Andy!:smoke:

At least it proves he's alive.

bozo
08-20-2014, 02:29 AM
Andrew should seriously consider banning monte for being the likely vector of possible legal action against this website.

amoergosum
08-20-2014, 02:38 AM
Of course Prince is insane

>>>

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Trotskilicious
08-20-2014, 02:43 AM
an entire evening with kevin smith? were they forced at gunpoint to watch a jackass wearing a hockey jersey talk about what a fucking pig he is

amoergosum
08-20-2014, 02:44 AM
I'd also like to note this is all monte's fault for alerting Corgan of the leaks.

Imagine if Monte held off tattling long enough so we could get the whole disc.....

Andrew should seriously consider banning monte for being the likely vector of possible legal action against this website.



http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/slunken_2007/SP%20LOL/Photoon6-20-12at250PM.jpg

Cool As Ice Cream
08-20-2014, 02:47 AM
My favorite is still master Bowie. Got the promo (and honor when you think about it) of his life when an astronaut sang his Space Oddity, and what does he do? Gets the video removed for copyright infringement.

that's not what happened.
leave dave alone! :(

Cool As Ice Cream
08-20-2014, 02:50 AM
Yeah, what a shame.

We only got three (four?) Machina demos and they were fucking fabulous. Imagine if Monte held off tattling long enough so we could get the whole disc.....

imagine if they just leaked the whole thing at the same time, instead of track per track over weeks.

amoergosum
08-20-2014, 03:04 AM
http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/outbound-distilleryimage2/t0.0-17/OBPTH/f25e6e3ac22411e1a39b1231381b7ba1_7.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/11gpsn8.jpg

Cool As Ice Cream
08-20-2014, 03:17 AM
What leaked?

where boys fear to tread
in the arms of sheep
in the arms of sheep alt.
envelope woman
identify (bc demo)
raindrops and sunshowers
home
glass and the ghost children
without you

edit: did you miss all of those? i thought you posted in that thread about some of these. maybe i'm wrong.

Trotskilicious
08-20-2014, 03:32 AM
http://i58.tinypic.com/11gpsn8.jpg

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amoergosum
08-20-2014, 03:38 AM
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I guess in Monte's mind it sounds like this >>>

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Cool As Ice Cream
08-20-2014, 04:10 AM
http://i57.tinypic.com/mj3l1w.png

Trotskilicious
08-20-2014, 06:23 AM
he looks really confused and stupid

smashingjj
08-20-2014, 06:32 AM
so why isn't D arrested by the authorities yet, now that everyone knows he's the criminal everyone's searching for?

Trotskilicious
08-20-2014, 06:50 AM
bill's lawyers have him strung up by his hipster dick

Skradgee
08-20-2014, 09:38 AM
William Patrick Corgan Jr. vs John Doe and Jane Doe

juliana
08-20-2014, 09:51 AM
so why isn't D arrested by the authorities yet, now that everyone knows he's the criminal everyone's searching for?

Monte will alert bill when he sees him at ravinia. Monte is head of sp security, watch out.

aeroplume
08-20-2014, 11:04 AM
thanks monte.

amoergosum
08-20-2014, 11:20 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>Freedom ain't what it use to be</p>&mdash; MonteLDS (@MonteLDS) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonteLDS/statuses/501946336522940416">20. August 2014</a></blockquote>
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bye june
08-20-2014, 11:35 AM
I didn't get Envelope Woman or Without You because slow internet.

panda show
08-20-2014, 12:23 PM
that's why I always tell him to fuck off whenever he posts

Gooch
08-20-2014, 12:50 PM
https://blabberdrive.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/angry-mob-simpsons.jpg

Ram27
08-20-2014, 12:55 PM
this is a none story

juliana
08-20-2014, 01:26 PM
Change we can believe in

http://i.imgur.com/eepcLp3.png

Elphenor
08-20-2014, 03:04 PM
Monte is more than a piece of shit

He's a symbol of everything that is shit In Pumpkinland.

davin
08-20-2014, 04:16 PM
so why isn't D arrested by the authorities yet, now that everyone knows he's the criminal everyone's searching for?

D.! Public Enemy Number One!

http://www.paulstone.co.uk/img/resource_pool/portfolio/chuck_d/chuck_d_gallery.jpg?resize(1000-gt-x-gt-800)

D.
08-20-2014, 05:12 PM
Holla when u c me, boi

Ram27
08-20-2014, 05:24 PM
Why is there an exclamation point in the title? Am I supposed to be excited about this?

also fuck u Motel

killtrocity
08-20-2014, 07:24 PM
What's to stop someone from making a suicide account and posting the leeks?

Shallowed
08-20-2014, 07:36 PM
IP bans probably

Nothing stopping from leeks being PM'd though.

Gooch
08-20-2014, 07:37 PM
yeah, got to love the anonymity of the internet. Post em and dump em. I dont condone such behavior, though. dont do it! follow the letter of the law. I mean, look what happened to Paris Hilton and kim kardashian when things got leaked. Even ya boy, Tommy Lee, was the subject of a particular leak. What happened to them? Are they still around?

Leak, but dont speak. Monte will kiss you on the cheek.

Ya broke my heart Monte. Ya broke ... my ... heart....

redbull
08-20-2014, 07:45 PM
guys, remember when Monte leaked all those unreleased songs as part of the Hideout tapes?

redbull
08-20-2014, 07:45 PM
he'd better watch out or there will be cash rewards

Trotskilicious
08-21-2014, 05:17 AM
I wonder if Corgan could sue Pakula for the leaked songs. There was only an anonymous poster that posted links to files hosted elsewhere. I understand Pakula doesn't feel like getting into any kind of legal action whatsoever but I wonder if Netphoria can be held liable in any way because of these uploads.

i really doubt it and here's why i think so

he never got sued for the leak of photos, remember with paris hilton
there's been plenty of leaks here over the years, i don't remember a machina leak but there was zeitgeist. i guess ocieanieners as well maybe i didn't give a fuck

lastly, i have been around the internet and as a young male i tend to look at ponography. i have participated on message boards that basically rip pay sites and upload it for us to right click and save as like some kind of porn addicted pack rat. the women or their agents site masters whatever will occasionally come in contact with these boards and their material is removed AT REQUEST...it's not like they stop posting the other illegally leaked material. it's only if they get an email from some porn star telling them to stop

adamdanger!
08-21-2014, 07:34 AM
Yeah, but these leaks will probably cost him a #1 reissue album on the charts...

JRock
08-21-2014, 08:57 AM
this is a shame, because the people that have been visiting this site over the years or who have been actively participating in message boards routinely are a small but rabid set of fans who will continue to support the band no matter what. Any leaks will mostly interest a very small portion of the fan community any way and what these songs did was continue to ignite interest in the band. Most people, even if they secure leaks of songs or reissues, end up buying some form of the albums anyway - whether it be to have a physical copy of the cds or a vinyl copy of the album for their collections. I know it is a double edged sword because on one hand the material is the property of the artist but on the other it is important to keep your fan base interested in your canon of music because it will be those fans who continue to carry the torch for the band and either attend concerts, buy product, or spread their love for the band to potential new fans. This is just a shame all around.

Ram27
08-21-2014, 09:14 AM
Stop living the pass

We should be cl******g for Aegea and ANAISE, not cool Machina demos

Slygmous
08-21-2014, 09:25 AM
I know I'm stating the obvious here, but Billy is remarkably out of touch with his audience. Fans download the leaks because they're fans, they've been starved for it for years, they would buy downloads of demo/live material if it were available to them.
What does Billy do for us? Puts older demos on vinyl, for some fucking reason. Even that live recording lucky 13 rubbish that died in the womb, wasn't that supposed to lead to a physical boxset or someting? The fuck? Just offer fans what they want in the easiest way possible.


there's been plenty of leaks here over the years, i don't remember a machina leak but there was zeitgeist. i guess ocieanieners as well maybe i didn't give a fuck


If I remember right, Machina leaked here on Netphoria months before release (the pre-master with alternate S+P and AOI). I think Adore may have leaked here as well, but I wasn't a member at that time.

panda show
08-21-2014, 09:37 AM
Stop living the pass

We should be cl******g for Aegea and ANAISE, not cool Machina demosCOUGARED

D.
08-21-2014, 09:47 AM
If we are going to share leaks via PM, I think it goes without saying that no one forwards jack shit to Monte.

topleybird
08-21-2014, 10:11 AM
If we are going to share leaks via PM, I think it goes without saying that no one forwards jack shit to Monte.

Does this mean I'm not allowed to direct him to "leaks" that are just renamed mp3s of Snow's seminal classic "Informer"

Cool As Ice Cream
08-21-2014, 10:14 AM
what exactly is monty's involvement in all of this?

reprise85
08-21-2014, 10:38 AM
those ants of downloads, was that your attention?

panda show
08-21-2014, 10:40 AM
you forgot to instert 'tidbit'

D.
08-21-2014, 10:41 AM
Does this mean I'm not allowed to direct him to "leaks" that are just renamed mp3s of Snow's seminal classic "Informer"

No, these are fine. Unless w hear from the Snow Camp. BIG BUCKS.

Wainscott
08-21-2014, 10:42 AM
Does this mean I'm not allowed to direct him to "leaks" that are just renamed mp3s of Snow's seminal classic "Informer"


Brilliant!

On another note, I should check this forum more frequently. NB: I enjoy receiving PM's.

w

topleybird
08-21-2014, 10:50 AM
All Monte-persecution aside, if these tracks were genuinely stolen I don't see how anyone can honestly justify their circulation

The arguments I'm seeing in this thread, for instance, all seem to come from a place of "well I wanted them so it's okay to take t****

Like "what these songs did was continue to ignite interest in the band" -- :cry:

Jesus Christ we shameful few who continue to visit here and even know the songs exist are already unheathily obsessed with the band; a few stolen tracks aren't going to convince us to buy something we weren't already prepared to remortgage our house or sell our loved ones' sentimentally irreplaceable jewelry to buy

Stop justifying it to yourselves and just accept what you've done and, ideally, listen to the opening riff of "Spiteface" on a loop until you're truly sorry

topleybird
08-21-2014, 10:51 AM
A licky-boom-boom-down

bye june
08-21-2014, 10:56 AM
if these tracks were genuinely stolen I don't see how anyone can honestly justify their circulation

The arguments I'm seeing in this thread, for instance, all seem to come from a place of "well I wanted them so it's okay to take t****

Like "what these songs did was continue to ignite interest in the band" -- :cry:

Stop justifying it to yourselves and just accept what you've done

eggzackly

Cool As Ice Cream
08-21-2014, 11:04 AM
those ants of downloads, was that your attention?

in tension

amoergosum
08-21-2014, 11:05 AM
By the way...the YouTube clips are still up...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/GUc7Ll0wnCk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/RDfBsYroF6U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

juliana
08-21-2014, 11:05 AM
Monte didn't go to billy cause he was jealous he went to billy to distance himself from the leaks. Billy could have easily went on to netphoria's main msg board page and saw a top sticky that said "LEAKS" or whatever. He doesn't want to be questioned by bill, "why didn't you tell me?" and bill not trust him.

If the leaks were more hidden, monte could probably play dumb or whatever. Monte is official tattler, what do you expect?

Cool As Ice Cream
08-21-2014, 11:06 AM
fuck off, juliana

Cool As Ice Cream
08-21-2014, 11:06 AM
you cunt

amoergosum
08-21-2014, 11:06 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>It's over! Thank heaven</p>&mdash; MonteLDS (@MonteLDS) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonteLDS/statuses/502289111051300864">21. August 2014</a></blockquote>
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topleybird
08-21-2014, 11:24 AM
I mean the kid legit weirds me out and always has

And while I'm not going to pretend I'm happy he called the cops on our little party I'm also not going to pretend it was okay to be having said party in the first place

smashingjj
08-21-2014, 11:40 AM
Janis, you're not Lee by any chance, are you?

topleybird
08-21-2014, 11:48 AM
I feel like I'm supposed to know which "Lee" you're referring to but no that is not my name or a description that applies to me in any way I can think of. Thank you for your interest in topleybird's identity. Your call is important to us.

smashingjj
08-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Where are you DeviousJ :(

zbeast78
08-21-2014, 02:12 PM
All Monte-persecution aside, if these tracks were genuinely stolen I don't see how anyone can honestly justify their circulation

The arguments I'm seeing in this thread, for instance, all seem to come from a place of "well I wanted them so it's okay to take t****

Like "what these songs did was continue to ignite interest in the band" -- :cry:

Jesus Christ we shameful few who continue to visit here and even know the songs exist are already unheathily obsessed with the band; a few stolen tracks aren't going to convince us to buy something we weren't already prepared to remortgage our house or sell our loved ones' sentimentally irreplaceable jewelry to buy

Stop justifying it to yourselves and just accept what you've done and, ideally, listen to the opening riff of "Spiteface" on a loop until you're truly sorry

don't be so dramatic. some random person leaked some unreleased stuff from almost 20 years ago (including a few songs ppl have been curious to hear for a long time), and a few superfans downloaded and enjoyed them. now we know the band is pissed and the party is over, and we're kinda blown. but its not that big a deal.

dustrock
08-21-2014, 02:24 PM
hasn't netphoria allowed leaks of stuff like oceania, zeitgeist, etc without getting in trouble? trying to remember.

Ram27
08-21-2014, 03:51 PM
The leeks sound great and I have no shame in enjoying them.

Am I supposed to feel bad or...

pavementtune
08-21-2014, 04:03 PM
The leeks sound great and I have no shame in enjoying them.

Am I supposed to feel bad or...

No, you didn't steal anything or broke any agreement, you didn't pirate tracks that could be purchased, you didn't burn CDs and sold them.
You don't run a webpage hosting downloads.

You listened to old demos and enjoyed them (before you were aware that somebody wasn't happy about it) like we all listened to Adore Demos or Mashed P before.

panda show
08-21-2014, 04:59 PM
wait, crestfallen has staff? since forever I have thought it's just monty's shitty website/blog

butthurt
08-21-2014, 09:12 PM
wait, crestfallen has staff? since forever I have thought it's just monty's shitty website/blog

:noway:

pavementtune
08-21-2014, 09:45 PM
wait, crestfallen has staff? since forever I have thought it's just monty's shitty website/blog

you are cruel, butthurt just lost his job at crestfallen.

All Things Change

As if the title didn’t give it away, Crestfallen is going to have some changes starting August 23rd. After nearly 2 and half years, Crestfallen is going to scale itself back. The why isn’t that important. What is important is that the site will be changing to the same format used for “Blank Page” […[

themadcaplaughs
08-21-2014, 11:36 PM
Monte didn't go to billy cause he was jealous he went to billy to distance himself from the leaks. Billy could have easily went on to netphoria's main msg board page and saw a top sticky that said "LEAKS" or whatever. He doesn't want to be questioned by bill, "why didn't you tell me?" and bill not trust him.

If the leaks were more hidden, monte could probably play dumb or whatever. Monte is official tattler, what do you expect?


That post actually rivaled Monte for terms of incomprehensibility.

killtrocity
08-22-2014, 12:00 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ZznKWNBqzUY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

butthurt
08-22-2014, 12:16 AM
http://media3.giphy.com/media/46LMaiLUFRkoU/giphy.gif

juliana
08-22-2014, 12:49 AM
That post actually rivaled Monte for terms of incomprehensibility.

Blasphemy!

davin
08-22-2014, 12:42 PM
That's not Bowie. Those are random lawyers sending out generic cease and desist letters trying to get money out of Bowie by showing what they can do.

i'm sure thats how it usually goes down with artists who respect thier fans, but in this case BC "ordered the code red", per his smug, antagonistic douchebag blog post on July 28.

http://benditlikebecker.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/jack-nicholson-youre-damn-right-i-did.png

No, you didn't steal anything or broke any agreement, you didn't pirate tracks that could be purchased, you didn't burn CDs and sold them.
You don't run a webpage hosting downloads.

You listened to old demos and enjoyed them (before you were aware that somebody wasn't happy about it) like we all listened to Adore Demos or Mashed P before.

:banging:

Gooch
08-22-2014, 01:27 PM
davin, I heard someone hijacked your account and posted the leaks without your knowledge or consent. You just got control of your account again. Is that true?

davin
08-22-2014, 04:31 PM
yes, i think it was monte!

Cool As Ice Cream
08-22-2014, 04:33 PM
haha

Cool As Ice Cream
08-22-2014, 04:33 PM
obv

slunken
08-22-2014, 05:29 PM
its the only explanation i can think of

s0ss
08-22-2014, 07:58 PM
Hey Bram, did Montel ever post at Blamo? God I hate that guy.

davin
08-22-2014, 08:54 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3uFjaXydPAM/UIA__8xYgnI/AAAAAAAACzY/PwjtvFGSJx8/s1600/billycorgan.jpg

Cruiser
08-22-2014, 09:54 PM
I only remember 8 leaks... are we not allowed to name them or something?

Ram27
08-22-2014, 10:26 PM
Sheep
Identify
Home
R+S
GatGC
Envelope Women
WBFTT
Without You

Yeah 8

Gooch
08-22-2014, 10:43 PM
Oh no! You named them. We're supposed to refer to the leaks as, "those we don't speak of". . . bad luck if you refer to them by name. You're fucked now. Sorry man.

Ram27
08-22-2014, 10:45 PM
No it's okay I used mostly acronyms

Ballz
08-22-2014, 10:55 PM
9 if you count the alternate version of Sheep... or was that one of the ones that ended up being fake?

pavementtune
08-22-2014, 10:58 PM
9 if you count the alternate version of Sheep... or was that one of the ones that ended up being fake?

the ones Ram27 listed + the second sheep version were legit

but maybe we should have a sticky post claiming someone faked them in their basement, just a joke, no leaks, never happened.

Cruiser
08-22-2014, 11:00 PM
Ah ok. I don't see why Billy didn't just take the reins - if shit's getting out and it's generating buzz for the band, why not dump it yourself? Do official releases through your own site for free?

I'm guessing this is stuff that didn't make the cut for the reissues, and so won't see the light of day. Unless he plans on doing another iTunes batch of rarities after the reissues are done or something.

I guess the Machina tracks could still be released commercially, too

killtrocity
08-23-2014, 01:40 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/p350x350/10603432_10152688436674923_7014363320835653784_n.j pg?oh=a8ff533cea9516fea6a3c96a6c866fa4&oe=5467371D&__gda__=1415455204_04a69391a82a7e5c5f08a27d1eb32df a

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/wAg1r6zw7Bg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Cool As Ice Cream
08-23-2014, 05:11 AM
Hey Bram, did Montel ever post at Blamo? God I hate that guy.

i believe so, yes. but not very often. one post a year, that kind of frequency.

topleybird
08-25-2014, 11:14 AM
don't be so dramatic. some random person leaked some unreleased stuff from almost 20 years ago (including a few songs ppl have been curious to hear for a long time), and a few superfans downloaded and enjoyed them. now we know the band is pissed and the party is over, and we're kinda blown. but its not that big a deal.

Well sure, I'm not trying to convince anybody to turn themselves into the police for cash rewards or nuthin'

I mean, I'm as guilty as the rest of y'all (well, except for Monte who stole them and leaked them, obv)

I'm just advocating for a little self-reflection

Ram27
08-25-2014, 12:44 PM
I had a dream last night that I went on Netpho and there was a new leak posted.

but the link didn't work

s0ss
08-25-2014, 12:46 PM
I had a dream last night that I went on Netpho and there was a new leak posted.

but the link didn't work

Behold!A nightmare.

bigoltitties
08-31-2014, 05:36 AM
Glass and the ghost children and Home demos are absolutely brilliant.

Ram27
08-31-2014, 07:04 PM
^^

This

______________

There are no more SP leaks, but there are some pretty good other leaks, if you haven't heard......

Gooch
10-19-2014, 02:18 AM
OK, so now that the leaking is over, does anyone want to elaborate "why" the leaks were leaked when they were leaked? Not who, but why now were they leaked?

Shallowed
10-19-2014, 02:36 AM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/614/504/b63.png

Mals Marola
10-19-2014, 04:34 AM
OK, so now that the leaking is over, does anyone want to elaborate "why" the leaks were leaked when they were leaked? Not who, but why now were they leaked?

machina stuff's about to come out someone's obviously on a mission to get billy "steamed"

i bet it was dave grohl

Ram27
10-19-2014, 08:48 AM
The Machina stuff was incredible, but it was mostly MCIS stuff. Maybe to make us angry at Bill for including Ruby Pit Mix 3 instead of Sheep