View Full Version : First Review of Adore Reissue


WeilandFan
08-08-2014, 02:50 AM
http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=52490

T&T
08-08-2014, 03:17 AM
The gem of this set is the studio version of “Let Me Give The World To You,” produced by Rick Rubin. The rough MACHINA 2 version has long been a favorite of mine, but this studio version will be the one I play for years to come. It opens with a quieter more subdued version of the riff heard in the MACHINA 2 version, leading into a more midtempo ballad take on the song, kind of in the vein of “Disarm.” Strings come in during the chorus, and later during verses. There are some really beautiful melodic guitar parts sprinkled throughout the song in subsequent verses. The last minute of the song features a Beatlesque refrain of the chorus to end the song, which Corgan nails vocally. This easily could have been the lead single off of Adore had it made the album, listening to this makes me wonder why a studio head didn’t demand Corgan put this on the album, as this could easily fit in on a Smashing Pumpkins Greatest Hits album.

14 year worth the wait?

Cool As Ice Cream
08-08-2014, 03:35 AM
http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=52490

are you the writer?

pavementtune
08-08-2014, 04:22 AM
are you the writer?

That's a nice insult.

"Different..

bla

feel...


I prefer...

I like...

bla

version..."

Could join forces with crestfallen. Or did he already. Brett&Monty, your daily feature.

Cool As Ice Cream
08-08-2014, 04:31 AM
come on, weilandfan. show your hand. cards on the table. are you brett?
question for bonus points: do you love monty?

Astur
08-08-2014, 05:02 AM
http://www.alternativenation.net/?p=51900


When Did Grunge Die?
Published On August 1, 2014 | By Brett Buchanan | Featured, Grunge Report

Many scholars have asked, when did Grunge die? Or is it even dead? Or hell, is Grunge even a thing? How do I play in Drop D? For your viewing pleasure, our expert staff brings you all (or none of) of the answers with this new roundtable discussion. We invite readers to post their thoughts in the comments section.

Brett Buchanan: First off, I’d like to point out the irony that we were watching Rugrats and Power Rangers when Grunge was actually a thing. But anyways, so when did Grunge die?

heated debate!

these are serious grunge professional scholars

Araneae
08-08-2014, 05:47 AM
That was quite uninformative, but it is an awful site with awful writing.

Ram27
08-08-2014, 06:19 AM
Sips of tea 2.0

I'm mostly just pissed there are only 10 live tracks

Zerospaced
08-08-2014, 08:24 AM
So I guess Heaven is not a renamed Satellites.... bummer

paranoid
08-08-2014, 10:22 AM
I'm pretty stoked about lmgtw.

I remember him bitching and bitching in 1998 at how disappointed he was with adore's reception and sales, yet had he put this song in there he probably would have sold another 2 million copies easily.

Ram27
08-08-2014, 10:44 AM
Billy has the shittiest reasons for things

pavementtune
08-08-2014, 11:17 AM
I like the song, but I don't think it would have fitted on the Adore album.

I mean where? After A+O? Kick another song out for it? Mess with the entire theme of the album?

Zerospaced
08-08-2014, 11:37 AM
He could have gotten rid of Shame and used lmgtwty.

pavementtune
08-08-2014, 12:03 PM
He could have gotten rid of Shame and used lmgtwty.


I guess you don't like Shame...

Anyway, you'd have


she holds the blood, she carves the knives
she digs the wires in our babies

amphetamine annie-dog
pulls her trash and her stories
from place to place and bed to bed
gives of herself and the magnet head
another floor, another ceiling
counting stars with double meanings


followed by

no I wouldn't change a thing
no I wouldn't change a thing about the way you are
the distance here, the speed so far
so far
so far
so far
let me give the world to you my love
let me give the world to you my love
let me give the world to you
let me give the world to you
let me give the world to you


and then BAM

and the night mare rides on
with a December black psalm
and the night mare rides on
what I fear is lost here

so may you come with your own knives
you'll never take me alive

Nah.
the way it is now is better than that, starting with LMGTWTY, then Tear, Cross, Because You Are.

Malice, Callous and Fools
1. Let Me Give the World to You
2. Tear (From Digital Transfer)
3. Cross
4. Because You Are
5. Jersey Shore (Sadlands Demo)
6. Shame (Take 1)
7. Summer (Instrumental)
8.. Blissed and Gone (Drone Version)
9. Heaven (Instrumental)
10. Daphne Descends (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
11. Saturnine (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
12. Behold! the Night Mare (Alternate Vocal)
13. Perfect (Acoustic Demo/Adore Outtake)
14. Do You Close Your Eyes (Adore Outtake)
15. The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning

workingdogv1
08-08-2014, 12:42 PM
The answer to Because You Are is always :noway:

toase
08-08-2014, 01:10 PM
If lmgtwty was on youtube I would be so happy

JRock
08-08-2014, 01:43 PM
The answer to Because You Are is always :noway:

Perfectly put.

paranoid
08-08-2014, 03:47 PM
I guess you don't like Shame...

Anyway, you'd have



followed by



and then BAM



Nah.
the way it is now is better than that, starting with LMGTWTY, then Tear, Cross, Because You Are.

Malice, Callous and Fools
1. Let Me Give the World to You
2. Tear (From Digital Transfer)
3. Cross
4. Because You Are
5. Jersey Shore (Sadlands Demo)
6. Shame (Take 1)
7. Summer (Instrumental)
8.. Blissed and Gone (Drone Version)
9. Heaven (Instrumental)
10. Daphne Descends (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
11. Saturnine (Matt Walker Reimagined/2014)
12. Behold! the Night Mare (Alternate Vocal)
13. Perfect (Acoustic Demo/Adore Outtake)
14. Do You Close Your Eyes (Adore Outtake)
15. The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning

Right because 'love is suicide' and 'love can last forever' fit together perfectly.

zbeast78
08-08-2014, 04:00 PM
He could have gotten rid of Shame and used lmgtwty.

wow of all the songs to eliminate from adore? shame is still one of my favorite sp songs period.

and to say they'd have sold 2 million more copies of adore if they included a song none of us have even heard? stretch.

butthurt
08-08-2014, 05:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/lYgJqet.jpg
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fuzzyroes
08-08-2014, 06:56 PM
are you the writer?

You know what? He probably is. The grungereport kid has his own Stone Temple Pilots website and message board lol

themadcaplaughs
08-09-2014, 12:56 AM
Reviewer sounds like a casual fan.

Woody
08-09-2014, 05:54 PM
There's no reason LMGTWTY wouldn't work on Adore. None.

chucklescrotum
08-09-2014, 05:59 PM
There's no reason LMGTWTY wouldn't work on Adore. None.

LMGTWTY was a love song that Billy wrote to Michael Stipe after the breakup though Billy decided not to ******* it on the album and instead lock it away because it meant so much to him. :cry:

milk-plus
08-09-2014, 06:13 PM
LMGTWTY wouldn't work on adore because it is a love song and the album's lyrics are dark, full of loss and regret. It could have been included but it would disrupt the theme.

themadcaplaughs
08-09-2014, 06:24 PM
I actually feel the theme of LMGTWTY would have been perfect on Adore. Yes, it ended up being an album that focused on more negative emotions, but I feel all the other aspects of love are included on Adore.

I've always seen "To Sheila" as being about the admiration of a lover's beauty, "Ava Adore" being about lust, "Perfect" being about the pondering of why a relationship failed, and "Daphne Descends" being about the sense of desperation that comes with seeing an ex with another. I really think "Let Me Give the World to You," which seems to be about the love of romance itself would have made a great middle point of that arc and really would have picked the album up from the slump it falls into in the middle.

T&T
08-09-2014, 08:08 PM
Billy could have just switched the lyrics up a bit. same song.
"Let me take the world from you my whore."

milk-plus
08-09-2014, 08:43 PM
I actually feel the theme of LMGTWTY would have been perfect on Adore. Yes, it ended up being an album that focused on more negative emotions, but I feel all the other aspects of love are included on Adore.

I've always seen "To Sheila" as being about the admiration of a lover's beauty, "Ava Adore" being about lust, "Perfect" being about the pondering of why a relationship failed, and "Daphne Descends" being about the sense of desperation that comes with seeing an ex with another. I really think "Let Me Give the World to You," which seems to be about the love of romance itself would have made a great middle point of that arc and really would have picked the album up from the slump it falls into in the middle.

Hmm I see your point, still I like the album as it is.

slunken
08-09-2014, 08:59 PM
Billy could have just switched the lyrics up a bit. same song.
"Let me take the world from you my whore."

Haha

Woody
08-10-2014, 05:34 AM
Because You Are is a hideous creation. I'd take a disc of Ruby Pit mixes over it.

Burn with fire, nuke from orbit, erase from memory.

*Vomits*

lionheart0
08-10-2014, 12:40 PM
Because You Are is a hideous creation. I'd take a disc of Ruby Pit mixes over it.

Burn with fire, nuke from orbit, erase from memory.

*Vomits*

Because youuououou aaarrre

Because you are

:rofl:

bye june
08-10-2014, 07:26 PM
Because You Are is a hideous creation. I'd take a disc of Ruby Pit mixes over it.

Burn with fire, nuke from orbit, erase from memory.

*Vomits*

Jesus fuck dude :eek: I don't see why everyone hates that song...its seems like it's universally disliked by fans. I like the song, it's really dark and sexy, and there's something pretty buried in there.

Also Matt Cameron! Show tha brutha some love!

slunken
08-10-2014, 09:16 PM
Very excited about the acoustic version of My Mistake

Elphenor
08-10-2014, 10:44 PM
Feel like I've been waiting forever for this thing....

Butt Pope
08-11-2014, 08:47 AM
Right because 'love is suicide' and 'love can last forever' fit together perfectly.

Perhaps "love is suicide" is not a brooding lyric about fleeting love, but a statement of what it truly means to love someone in order to make love "last forever." One must love sacrificially, always dying to oneself as one puts the other first in the relationship.

Or maybe not.

I like turtles.

MonteLDS
08-11-2014, 09:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDo7FE4Mm14

amoergosum
08-11-2014, 09:13 AM
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