View Full Version : the bazillion versions of heavy metal machine.


Lysergic
07-15-2014, 06:57 PM
which one is your favorite?
i like all the bitcrushed psychedelia of this one. i wonder what the hell went on in the studios with flood, willing, thorsrud, and billy during late night machina sessions.... (don't make sex jokes. please. hah.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF0xP6tFTPM

Shallowed
07-15-2014, 08:07 PM
2007 live version.

pavementtune
07-15-2014, 08:26 PM
2000 live and Machina II.


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Shallowed
07-15-2014, 08:32 PM
Oh yeah. That version kicks 07's ass

slunken
07-15-2014, 09:05 PM
the flanged choruses on hmm and teg are some of my favorite machina moments.

SlingeroGuitaro
07-15-2014, 10:07 PM
the later machina tour versions with the vocoder vox an rock on tacked to the front. not sure why they didn't always do this.

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T&T
07-16-2014, 12:01 AM
some days I forget why I consider jimmy a drumming god compared to mikey bambam. but then I listen to a track like that ^^ and it all comes back. How could anyone even bother to compare the two?

*& to answer the OP, I like the early 1994 versions.

AndySlash
07-17-2014, 09:59 AM
i hate this fucking song, in any iteration.

Rider
07-17-2014, 10:16 AM
i hate this fucking song, in any iteration.


This song and Rock On made me totally give up on live shows from this era.

Pizza Club
07-17-2014, 10:43 AM
the later machina tour versions with the vocoder vox an rock on tacked to the front. not sure why they didn't always do this.

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This gets my vote too. I've always enjoyed this song live but I can see how people hate it.

redbull
07-17-2014, 05:59 PM
the later machina tour versions with the vocoder vox an rock on tacked to the front. not sure why they didn't always do this.

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this verision is my favorite

autumn_amnesiac
07-17-2014, 11:26 PM
i loved the rock on intro...
but my favorite performance of this song is

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god, what i would give to have been able to experience that show live.

jimmy drevpile
07-18-2014, 07:45 AM
this verision is my favorite

^^^

Slurpee
07-18-2014, 12:08 PM
The thing about HMM is, even though the song wasn't great, the way that they performed it was still mind-blowing.

Trotskilicious
07-19-2014, 02:22 AM
i think the fact that there are so many means the song sucks

Ram27
07-19-2014, 10:57 AM
the later machina tour versions with the vocoder vox an rock on tacked to the front. not sure why they didn't always do this.

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This

I love the part around 6:20. Sort of like the WBFTT live intro

Mo
07-19-2014, 12:54 PM
the later machina tour versions with the vocoder vox an rock on tacked to the front. not sure why they didn't always do this.

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anyone got the date of that show?

pavementtune
07-19-2014, 04:36 PM
anyone got the date of that show?
could be Bercy, Paris.
http://www.spfc.org/tours/date.html?tour_id=833

amoergosum
07-19-2014, 05:11 PM
the later machina tour versions with the vocoder vox an rock on tacked to the front. not sure why they didn't always do this.

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...love it!




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Funky_Gibbon
07-20-2014, 05:34 PM
My personal favourite is the Heavy Metal Machine from Chicago 2000-04-16

http://youtu.be/T-0yNyS5UuM?t=7m7s

redbull
07-20-2014, 06:06 PM
I also dislike the 2007 versions. along with glass and the ghost children, really killed any kind of flow those shows had

dreams of glass
09-21-2014, 12:03 AM
Honestly, I like all the versions posted. Why the hate for this song? It's got a great metal riff that still grooves, and I love that chorus:

let me die for rock and roll
let me die and save my soul
let me go, let me go

rock and raaawwwlll

Rocket Launcher
09-21-2014, 03:45 AM
faeomm drum machine version (cuz of the bass and distortion and tones) and rock on > hmm 2000-11-03 wembley arena..has some nice banter on "rock on"

houseofglass11
09-21-2014, 03:59 AM
Wow, never heard that 2007 version. That was dreadful.

panda show
09-21-2014, 06:46 AM
...love it!




<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/H4hHbRi3Mc4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>1:54-2:13 is exactly why jeff is not the right guitarist for the smashing pumpkins

dodoz
09-21-2014, 08:07 AM
The alternate, "heavy petal machine"...or was it "pedal".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQa-wfEg7Y8&t=7m40s

cringe cringe cringe

Seriously, a song i'd rather forget.

BurtSampson
09-21-2014, 01:02 PM
god almighty I forgot what a colossal waste of time 2007 HMM was. That's ~3 songs they didn't play so they could do some half assed metal jam.

Spaceboy88
09-22-2014, 12:35 PM
None of the above.

atti
09-22-2014, 01:00 PM
Any news on one of the reissue-discs just being different versions of hmm?

dodoz
09-22-2014, 01:03 PM
Quoting Emerson, Lake and Palmer (2007 version) is hardly ever a good idea...

dreams of glass
09-22-2014, 01:05 PM
Is there any other song besides this one and Because You Are that has fans so divided?

SomaPhreak
09-22-2014, 01:53 PM
i hate this fucking song, in any iteration.

Yep. HMM is one of Bolly's epic fails. It's beyond me why he kept trying to feature and polish that turd.

How awesome would it be if it was totally removed from the Machina reissue? Won't happen, but it's the right move. Make it stop Bolly. Make it stop.

Spaceboy88
09-22-2014, 02:17 PM
Is there any other song besides this one and Because You Are that has fans so divided?


"Blue Skies Bring Tears" or are we all in agreement in hating this song?

ilikeplanets
09-22-2014, 05:26 PM
I like the one on Machina the most, but it never holds my attention for the whole song and usually gets partially skipped.

Ram27
09-22-2014, 09:50 PM
I don't like the title (2emo4me) but it's pretty nice, at least the live/Arising versions.

HMM isn't bad, I like the chorus, but it's played too much for such an unremarkable song

dreams of glass
09-22-2014, 11:35 PM
"Blue Skies Bring Tears" or are we all in agreement in hating this song?

Honestly it's never really done it for me, and there seems to be a bazillion versions of this song as well.

Elphenor
09-22-2014, 11:38 PM
BSBT is like Billy's worse song

Elphenor
09-22-2014, 11:39 PM
Soooo booooringgg

bye june
09-23-2014, 12:30 AM
I kept reading the title of this thread as "The Brazilian Versions of Heavy Metal Machine."

derp

dreams of glass
09-23-2014, 01:04 AM
Hmm, does anyone like White Spyder?

It always sounds like such garbage to my ears, that I skip it. In fact, I don't think I've ever listened all the way through. This song is MUCH worse than HMM, IMO.

Spaceboy88
09-23-2014, 10:38 AM
Hmm, does anyone like White Spyder?

It always sounds like such garbage to my ears, that I skip it. In fact, I don't think I've ever listened all the way through. This song is MUCH worse than HMM, IMO.

I agree White Spyder is terrible. I'd take HMM over WS any day. I also think part of the reason White Spyder is so bad is because it's a muddled mess. Perhaps proper mixing/mastering can make it slightly less awful but not holding my breath.

Ram27
09-23-2014, 11:20 AM
WS is awful

So is Atom Bomb and all that weird stuff at the end of MII

Spaceboy88
09-23-2014, 11:30 AM
I wish that Billy would've left the original, slow and gorgeous version of "Speed Kills" as-is. The harder version doesn't hold a candle to the other.

ilikeplanets
09-23-2014, 01:03 PM
I love the intro to the good Speed Kills

bye june
09-23-2014, 02:16 PM
WS is awful

So is Atom Bomb and all that weird stuff at the end of MII

you wut m8?

reprise85
09-25-2014, 05:50 PM
white spyder is awesome, fuck you all

Elphenor
09-25-2014, 05:58 PM
you wut m8?

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