View Full Version : Greatest Post-Punk Band of All-Time


Mooney
07-05-2014, 04:08 PM
just making fun of Catherine Wheel, you can all move along now. :blush:

Mooney
07-05-2014, 04:09 PM
there was a supposed to be a poll, i checked the fucking box. grr.

options include:

the killers
interpol
the national


serious answers only, please.

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 04:16 PM
out of those choices i'll just go ahead and kill myself

Mooney
07-05-2014, 05:11 PM
let's change this to a discussion about who should be considered the true post-punk pioneers. public image ltd.? joy division? no one?

Sonic Johnny
07-05-2014, 05:25 PM
At one point in time peter hook played the twelfth fret on his bass and sting also plays on this fret so really sting is the biggest influence on the national.

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 05:28 PM
I know this thread is a joke, but I still have to answer with:

THE MOTHERFUCKING FALLLLLL

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 05:29 PM
GREATEST BAND EVER

MARK E SMITH FOR PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD

The exploding boy
07-05-2014, 06:04 PM
there was a supposed to be a poll, i checked the fucking box. grr.

options include:

the killers
interpol
the national


serious answers only, please.

I can't give you a serious answer when you didn't ******* The Bravery.



At one point in time peter hook played the twelfth fret on his bass and sting also plays on this fret so really sting is the biggest influence on the national.

Actually not often at all when it comes to sting. All the time when it comes to Hook.


I KNOW ITS A JOKE BUT ITS NOT FACTUAL.

Anyway, little known fact, David Gilmour played bass on The Police's records. Like Sting can play fretless, come on, get real.

The true post punk pioneers are obviously The Beatles anyway.

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 06:09 PM
In terms of post-punk pioneers, The Velvet Underground, man

It kinda pisses me off that people ask the Bearles vs. Stones thing when clearly it should be Beatles Vs. VU

Rolling Stones were never In the same leauge as The Beatles imo

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 06:19 PM
let's change this to a discussion about who should be considered the true post-punk pioneers. public image ltd.? joy division? no one?

uh...wire?

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 06:23 PM
In terms of post-punk pioneers, The Velvet Underground, man

I JUST CAN'T EVEN

HOW ARE YOU BOTH PROTO PUNK AND POST PUNK JUST FOR FUCKS SAKE

Mooney
07-05-2014, 06:33 PM
uh...wire?

they should definitely be in the converstation, especially since pink flag was a pretty much straight up punk record before they started the transition. i only posed the question because it seems like from whatever i read and hear, it's always 'joy division created post-punk' and i never really considered that the case. 154 and unknown pleasures are probably my two favourite albums, so its not like i'm pulling for one or the other. i just don't know both sides to the history.

Mooney
07-05-2014, 06:45 PM
In terms of post-punk pioneers, The Velvet Underground, man

It kinda pisses me off that people ask the Bearles vs. Stones thing when clearly it should be Beatles Vs. VU

Rolling Stones were never In the same leauge as The Beatles imo

velvet underground->mc5/the stooges->pre-ramones cbgb bands (television/patti smith)->punk->post-punk. the question was about pioneers of post-punk.

i'm going to coin my own version of godwin's law: Mooney's Law "as a completely unrelated music conversation continues, the least knowledgeable person will show themselves by being the first to make a beatles vs. rolling stones reference."

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 07:17 PM
yeah it's a hard call on wire v. joy division, but it is interesting to hear the progression from pink flag to 154

Shallowed
07-05-2014, 09:52 PM
i'm going to coin my own version of godwin's law: Mooney's Law "as a completely unrelated music conversation continues, the least knowledgeable person will show themselves by being the first to make a beatles vs. rolling stones reference."

The longer a discussion about The Rolling Stones goes on for, the more likely The Beatles will be mentioned.

yo soy el mejor
07-05-2014, 10:03 PM
as far as I'm concerned, good tunes is good tunes. be it disco or rock, or polka, or whatever have you.

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 10:43 PM
I JUST CAN'T EVEN

HOW ARE YOU BOTH PROTO PUNK AND POST PUNK JUST FOR FUCKS SAKE

I feel like stuff like Venus and Furs and All Tomorrow's Parties are pretty much Post-Punk. They were just super ahead of their time.

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 10:45 PM
velvet underground->mc5/the stooges->pre-ramones cbgb bands (television/patti smith)->punk->post-punk. the question was about pioneers of post-punk.

i'm going to coin my own version of godwin's law: Mooney's Law "as a completely unrelated music conversation continues, the least knowledgeable person will show themselves by being the first to make a beatles vs. rolling stones reference."

My post had nothing really to do with your question honestly

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 11:06 PM
I mean so many post-punk groups list VU as a defining influence and a lot of them really sound like it

Mooney
07-05-2014, 11:08 PM
My post had nothing really to do with your question honestly
your post starts out by clearing stating that the point of your post is to answer the question i posed.

Mooney
07-05-2014, 11:22 PM
I mean so many post-punk groups list VU as a defining influence

there's a reason the english language has two different words for influence and pioneer.

Elphenor
07-05-2014, 11:38 PM
Well I meant the second half of it, my bad

They're influential because they were pioneers. I mean, those simple beats, hammering repetition, distorted guitars, literary and sometimes gothic lyrics, the noise freak outs, the blond women, Reed's wearing of black and sunglasses

Seriously. Am I wrong to say VU was a post-punk band before there was even punk?

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 11:51 PM
I feel like stuff like Venus and Furs and All Tomorrow's Parties are pretty much Post-Punk. They were just super ahead of their time.

it's called being the velvet underground!

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 11:52 PM
yes there is something wrong with it, it's <i>stupid</I>

Elphenor
07-06-2014, 12:21 AM
If you say so

Trotskilicious
07-06-2014, 12:42 AM
i'm just tryna help u out

Elphenor
07-06-2014, 01:12 AM
Thanks bro

fuzzyroes
07-06-2014, 01:24 AM
How can something be post-punk before the "punk genre" even took place?

Shallowed
07-06-2014, 01:30 AM
Because opinions

Elphenor
07-06-2014, 02:40 AM
Well post-punk refers to a sound and style right?

It doesn't just refer to being after punk.

Elphenor
07-06-2014, 02:41 AM
And that sound and style is very VU esque

Trotskilicious
07-06-2014, 02:42 AM
AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS

Elphenor
07-06-2014, 02:51 AM
I read this article the other day about VU being New Wave pioneers.
Let me see if I can find it

fuzzyroes
07-06-2014, 02:54 AM
It doesn't just refer to being after punk.

Sure it does. It's like saying "post-grunge" and then using an innovator like Dinosaur Jr or even Sonic youth as an example. Post-grunge will always be known as the shit bands like "Days of the new" and Nickelback and all of that shit.

Calling the VU "post-punk" is like calling Nickelback "pre-grunge"

Trotskilicious
07-06-2014, 02:59 AM
I read this article the other day about VU being New Wave pioneers.
Let me see if I can find it

again the operative word is pioneers

these genres you affix to everything to prove that you're consistent in your taste, they also refer to a period of time and a sequence of influences

Elphenor
07-06-2014, 04:05 AM
Sure it does. It's like saying "post-grunge" and then using an innovator like Dinosaur Jr or even Sonic youth as an example. Post-grunge will always be known as the shit bands like "Days of the new" and Nickelback and all of that shit.

Calling the VU "post-punk" is like calling Nickelback "pre-grunge"

What? No. That's not the same thing at all.

I think it's more akin to like calling Bob Dylan Punk or something
But still VU shares so much more in common with post-punk

slunken
07-06-2014, 06:59 AM
The UK is different but in many ways the same.

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slunken
07-06-2014, 07:00 AM
The United States is definitely like post-Britain

Trotskilicious
07-06-2014, 08:20 AM
post britain america is definitely anti protopost punk

mxzombie
07-06-2014, 09:18 AM
but like if you really think about it the euros and the english are always influenced by america: mcdonalds, obama

usa is pre-uk

slunken
07-06-2014, 09:19 AM
America pioneered the world

Mooney
07-06-2014, 04:06 PM
this fucking place.

smashingjj
07-07-2014, 03:01 AM
Queen is probably the most underrated post-punk band of all time. They pioneered the sound moreso than many other bands and it goes completely and frustratingly unrecognized. The guitar work on post-punk masterworks like A Night At The Opera and News Of The World was directly stolen by all bands that got rich and famous of it whereas Brian May now probably has a shabby wellfare income now.

pavementtune
07-13-2014, 11:26 AM
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MusicMan4
07-13-2014, 08:18 PM
The Killers are the only band out of those 3 I would actively choose to listen to
Maybe in a few years I'll put on the first Interpol album again tho

Poots
07-13-2014, 11:53 PM
Queen is probably the most underrated post-punk band of all time. They pioneered the sound moreso than many other bands and it goes completely and frustratingly unrecognized. The guitar work on post-punk masterworks like A Night At The Opera and News Of The World was directly stolen by all bands that got rich and famous of it whereas Brian May now probably has a shabby wellfare income now.

Yeah, Queen is largely unknown by the music community, except for hard core hipsters. Most of the band died penniless and destitute. The few remaining members work odd jobs around town and have the occasional gig at the Ramada Inn.

noyen
07-13-2014, 11:54 PM
post term abortion

Shallowed
07-26-2014, 09:40 AM
Where does one start with The Fall? They have a gazillion albums, but from what I've gathered, Hex Enduction Hour, Live at the Witch Trials and This Nation's Saving Grace are their most essential albums. Where to from there?

Elphenor
07-26-2014, 01:00 PM
Grotesque, Dragnet, Perverted by Language

Elphenor
07-26-2014, 01:26 PM
What's a computer?

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Trotskilicious
07-27-2014, 04:34 AM
savages is the greatest post band time of all punk