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fuzzyroes
06-27-2014, 05:35 AM
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fuzzyroes
06-27-2014, 05:36 AM
Great band. Their original run is the stuff of legends.... The b-sides and all. As much flack as the band gets, I think some of their new stuff has been pretty solid too... They just get shit on cause it's not as good as the old stuff.

Check out some really good newer tracks:

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Lucky Day Spa
06-27-2014, 08:00 AM
those songs are all terrible

miss sweeney in particularly, which is just an extra-douchey version of 'suzanne'

Shallowed
06-27-2014, 08:00 AM
No we only listen to Muse

Shallowed
06-27-2014, 08:01 AM
, anyone?

Lucky Day Spa
06-27-2014, 08:02 AM
i mean i want to assume that weezer's last decade is either intentionally ironic – in which case it's not smart enough to avoid being shitty – or just the product of genuine mental illness

which is a horrible thing to want

but the alternative is that rivers cuomo is just a dirtbag, so

The exploding boy
06-27-2014, 10:29 AM
, anyone?

MATT BELLAMY IS THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER OF HIS GENERATION OMGEENIUS

fuzzyroes
06-27-2014, 07:25 PM
those songs are all terrible

miss sweeney in particularly, which is just an extra-douchey version of 'suzanne'

That's true, but it's a good track for a b-side

You don't even like Heart Songs? it's a damn good tune.

how about this?:

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Starts off kinda slow, but it builds up and is just a really nice, upbeat listen.

This songs incredibly silly but it's a fun listen, kinda more raw and a throwback to the older stuff

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Shallowed
06-27-2014, 07:44 PM
Any Bush fans here?

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06-27-2014, 07:44 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:45 PM
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Any Anal Cunt fans?

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06-27-2014, 07:55 PM
Any Beatles fans?

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06-27-2014, 07:55 PM
Any Nirvana fans?

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06-27-2014, 07:55 PM
Any Rolling Stones fans?

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06-27-2014, 07:55 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:56 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:56 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:57 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:57 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:57 PM
Any Arctic Monkeys fans?

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06-27-2014, 07:58 PM
Any Smashing Pumpkins fans?

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06-27-2014, 07:58 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:58 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:59 PM
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06-27-2014, 07:59 PM
Any Weezer fans?

Shallowed
06-27-2014, 08:00 PM
Any Green Day fans?

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06-27-2014, 08:00 PM
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06-27-2014, 08:00 PM
Any Led Zeppelin fans?

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06-27-2014, 08:01 PM
Any Radiohead fans?

Shallowed
06-27-2014, 08:02 PM
Their older classic stuff is more popular but some of their new stuff is still pretty good

Shallowed
06-27-2014, 08:08 PM
margin

Elphenor
06-27-2014, 08:23 PM
Pinkerton is an awesome album.

I'm dumb she's a lesbian
We were as good as married in my mind
But married in my mind is no good

Trotskilicious
06-27-2014, 08:33 PM
Miss Sweeney what the fuck is this shit

fuzzyroes
06-27-2014, 11:06 PM
As far as Weezer goes, I've been spinning the fuck outta this song, definitely gives off an old school weezer vibe, cool video too!

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Raskolnikov
06-29-2014, 05:48 PM
Blue and Pinkerton are rock solid. Two key albums from the 90s. Past that, it gets rough. Thoughts on each:

Green - Solid, but 28 minutes? And no real solos? That said, it's catchy as hell.
Maladroit - Probably my favorite post-Pink album overall.
Red - Decent here and there, but there isn't one of the non-Rivers vocals cuts I like... that said, "The Angel and the One" is probably my single solitary favorite post-Pink cut.
Make Believe - Never listen to that one anymore, but don't hate it.

Past those, I haven't given Hurley or Raditude even the dignity of a library check-out.

Curiosity is piqued with the new one, though - with Ric Ocasek back involved, it has a fighting chance.

Saw them down in Vegas a few years ago where they did all of blue then all of Pinkerton back to back - was rock solid.

fuzzyroes
07-02-2014, 07:35 AM
Yeah man, I'm definitely stoked for the new album. I think Ocasek can work some magic outta Rivers, and I think Weezer has a lot to prove on this new record.

You should check out Raditude though, It was pretty solid, totally ironic and pretty hilarious though, but totally intentional. You gotta dig Rivers though, the guy always keeps it interesting. The guy had Lil Wayne featured on a track on Raditude for crying out loud, total "club banger". Just awesome.

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yo soy el mejor
07-02-2014, 09:01 AM
Yeah man, I'm definitely stoked for the new album. I think Ocasek can work some magic outta Rivers, and I think Weezer has a lot to prove on this new record.

You should check out Raditude though, It was pretty solid, totally ironic and pretty hilarious though, but totally intentional. You gotta dig Rivers though, the guy always keeps it interesting. The guy had Lil Wayne featured on a track on Raditude for crying out loud, total "club banger". Just awesome.

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i don't care for this song, but it sounds much better without l'il wayne. my friend said rivers wrote it with jermaine dupri. >_>

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yo soy el mejor
07-02-2014, 09:04 AM
i like a handful of songs from his Alone recordings.

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hnibos
07-02-2014, 11:04 AM
Never heard of them.

fuzzyroes
07-03-2014, 07:57 PM
i like a handful of songs from his Alone recordings.

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Yeah, His Alone recordings definitely have some good stuff on them.

Some of the stuff was pretty solid on the Death to False metal album too. I fucking love this track:

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fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 06:17 AM
New Weezer singles out!

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Pretty cool! Rather simple little ditty, but lyrically it's an apology to the fans and indicates that the new albums going to be a throwback to the old shit. I can't wait to hear the full album.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 06:19 AM
"Sorry guys I didn't realize that I needed you so much
I thought I'd get a new audience, I forgot that disco sucks
I ended up with nobody and I started feeling dumb
Maybe I should play the lead guitar and Pat should play the drums

Take me back, back to the shack
Back to the strat with the lightning strap
Kick in the door, more hardcore
Rockin out like it's '94
Let's turn up the radio
Let's turn off those stupid singing shows
I know where we need to go:
Back to the shack

I finally settled down with my girl and I made up with my dad
I had to go and make a few mistakes so I could find out who I am
I'm letting all of these feelings out even if it means I fail
Cause this is what I was meant to do and you can't put that on sale

Take me back, back to the shack
Back to the strat with the lightning strap
Kick in the door, more hardcore
Rockin out like it's '94
Let's turn up the radio
Let's turn off those stupid singing shows
I know where we need to go:
Back to the shack

We belong in the rock world
There is so much left to do
If we die in obscurity, oh well
At least we raised some hell"

Pretty cool

Trotskilicious
07-25-2014, 06:20 AM
i now truly believe that you are a genius satirist

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 06:29 AM
Nah man. I just used to be a HUGE Weezer fan. They were easily my favorite band for the longest time. That started to wane a bit after the Green album and Maladroit and pretty much stopped by the time that Beverly Hills song came out... But I've always checked out their new releases and theres always been flashes of brilliance still present. So I think it's promising that they recorded with Ocasik and are deadset on bringing back the old vibes.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 06:35 AM
Lol. Weezer was once someone's favorite band?

Trotskilicious
07-25-2014, 06:35 AM
shut the fuck up little kid

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 06:37 AM
Pinkerton is the shit though.

But otherwise, meh

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 06:43 AM
Pinkertons great.

No love for the Blue Album?

Have you ever checked out the B-sides from those eras? A lot of the B-sides are just as good (if not better) than the album tracks.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 06:52 AM
Blue is okay.

I really like "Only in Dreams".

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 06:53 AM
Probably my favorite Weezer song

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:05 AM
Heh it's never been one of my faves actually.

No one else and In the Garage are probably my 2 favorite off of blue.

I mean... fuck... "No one else"... How dope of a song is that? Just an A + perfect pop song with stellar guitar punch and great back up vocals. The sincerity of the pretty creepy lyrics set to the upbeat music... Just fantastic

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:07 AM
the sonic layering of the bright guitar interactions and the the feedback just sound so killer too. It's a little disappointing that theres none of those elements in the new track. (Guy who produced the blue album is producing their new album)

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 07:09 AM
Only in Dreams has an awesome bassline.

Garage is pretty funny. It reminds me of "Garageland" by The Clash

Lucky Day Spa
07-25-2014, 07:11 AM
let's just say i used to subscribe to five newsgroups on usenet:

alt.music.smash-pumpkins
alt.music.radiohead
alt.music.weezer
alt.fan.dune
alt.games.final-fantasy

#LEGIT

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:20 AM
Only in Dreams has an awesome bassline.

Garage is pretty funny. It reminds me of "Garageland" by The Clash

Yeah man. Matt Sharp was boss. I wish they would get him back in the band on bass.

Cuomo actually reached out to Sharp about 5 years ago and offered him a spot back in the band, but on rhythm guitar ( I guess he didn't wanna cut the newest guy). Sharp declined.

You ever hear this track Elph?

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fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:21 AM
There was a version of this track on the Angus soundtrack too, but they had fucking Rob Cavallo producing the whole soundtrack and he butchered the track. It was literally produced in a "Dookie" fashion.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 07:21 AM
The redhead said you shred the Cello
And Im Jello-O
Baby

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 07:22 AM
I asked you to go to the Greenday concert
You said you've never heard of them
How cool is that?

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:26 AM
let's just say i used to subscribe to five newsgroups on usenet:

alt.music.smash-pumpkins
alt.music.radiohead
alt.music.weezer
alt.fan.dune
alt.games.final-fantasy

#LEGIT

Haha that's awesome man. That's some serious old school shit. I don't even think I had the internet yet in those eras. I used to post on the Rebel Weezer alliance forum way back when though. That was a cool community.

I remember in 2001 or so Rivers was openly sharing demos for Maladroit with the community and asking for feedback. A few tracks were included on the album only due to the big fan love... Was pretty rad. But the album wasn't all that great, so perhaps it wasn't the best idea haha.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 07:28 AM
My problem with Weezer is like they're almost a parody of the geeky people who listen to them.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:35 AM
Yeah, that's certainly what they've turned into over the years.

That wasn't always the case though.

I mean, if you just took all of their 94-97 output and left it at that the whole "nerd-rock" thing wasn't really so obvious, or it at least wasn't being put across as their "gimmick"...

Lucky Day Spa
07-25-2014, 07:37 AM
Haha that's awesome man. That's some serious old school shit. I don't even think I had the internet yet in those eras. I used to post on the Rebel Weezer alliance forum way back when though. That was a cool community.

I remember in 2001 or so Rivers was openly sharing demos for Maladroit with the community and asking for feedback. A few tracks were included on the album only due to the big fan love... Was pretty rad. But the album wasn't all that great, so perhaps it wasn't the best idea haha.

no it was actually fairly horrible

i also subscribed to a robin hobb group on some ad-hoc newsgroup service but it got taken over by white supremacists

Lucky Day Spa
07-25-2014, 07:38 AM
anyway pinkerton is great, probably the only art weezer's produced

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:38 AM
Rivers nerdiness really was just an authentic part of the music once upon a time. That's what sort of made it charming... Again, going back to "no one else" it's a song about being an insecure loser who's jealous about any attention that his girlfriend would get. Yeah, he's a fucking nerd, but it was at least construed as honest.

It wasn't all, heyyyyyy Beverly Hills!!! I'm a nerdy guy, hot girls don't like me!

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:42 AM
no it was actually fairly horrible

i also subscribed to a robin hobb group on some ad-hoc newsgroup service but it got taken over by white supremacists

haha it probably was. I dunno time seems to put a rose-colored hue on things. That forum definitely does represent a nostalgia of being totally green to the whole fucking internet thing for me though.

Lucky Day Spa
07-25-2014, 07:42 AM
the blue album is just like the rest of their shit, it's just older and harder to assess critically because when most of us first heard it we didn't have the critical faculty to judge it

Lucky Day Spa
07-25-2014, 07:44 AM
although i will allow that the songwriting is a lot stronger / less formulaic

it's still pretty vapid though

Lucky Day Spa
07-25-2014, 07:48 AM
anyway pinkerton is great, probably the only art weezer's produced

yeah okay retracting this, it's actually kinda boneheaded like everything else they've done, it's just the one time they sounded like they gave a shit

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 07:56 AM
the blue album is just like the rest of their shit, it's just older and harder to assess critically because when most of us first heard it we didn't have the critical faculty to judge it

I've heard that argument before, but I'm not buying it. The Blue era was pop-rock gold, and a lot of those songs still hold up exceptionally well today. There was just a certain charm during that era that is sorely missing with their 2000's albums. I think they just got way too formulaic later on... A lot of natural energy just evaporated.

Cuomo did obsess about writing songs in the vein of Oasis and Green Day before the Green album, so that may have something to do with it.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 07:58 AM
Like there's no brains or anything with Weezer, the whole thing is just this stereotype.
But still Pinkerton is good for what it is

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:00 AM
As much as I was disappointed with the Green Album, it still probably is their strongest album since Pinkerton.... Yet every fucking song on that album had a simple guitar solo that STRICTLY followed the verse melody. I mean come on... what is that shit?

The quality of the songwriting from any of the 2000 era albums is just a lot worse than it was during the Blue album era. I don't think it's has anything to do with some nostalgia cloud keeping people from realizing how vapid it is.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:04 AM
Like there's no brains or anything with Weezer, the whole thing is just this stereotype.
But still Pinkerton is good for what it is

nah, Weezer used to be cool.

I mean come on... This song and video is still as brilliant now as it was then

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Grade A pop song.

Of course we've all heard it a million times so it just seems a little more vapid. Same thing with Nirvanas nevermind and a ton of SP songs.

Shallowed
07-25-2014, 08:05 AM
Pretty cool

You can't be serious

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:06 AM
I mean fuck, Cherub Rock? Bullet? Shit sounds vapid as hell to me now. it's just cause I've heard it wayyyyyyyyyyy too much

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:08 AM
You can't be serious

I am, but I'm not.

It's cool in a sense that he's alluding that he's going back to his roots.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:09 AM
but fuck, I still can't help but get a Beverly Hills vibe from that new track.

I'm hoping it's just a little mission statement, explaining himself to the fans and that the rest of the records going to kick ass

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:09 AM
That's my whole point though. Weezer never wrote anything beyond pop music with vapid lyrics.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:11 AM
They're like all the loser with none of the intelligence.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:15 AM
I dunno, I guess lyrical intelligence never really mattered much to me... As long as it's not noticeably bad and extracts some emotion from me.

I mean look at Corgan... If you took A LOT of his lyrics at face value you'd see that they're pretty stupid too.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:25 AM
That's true and all, but Rivers could never write a Porcelina or a Ruby or Geek

What's offensive about Weezer is they pose as this band of geeks or whatever when "geek" shouldn't even be an image. It's like high school never ended for them.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:29 AM
I dunno man. I think they're just naturally nerdy guys. I guess the bassist kind of hams it up for the image, but I don't see how the drummer or guitarist really pose as geeks or anything.

Rivers' glasses are kind of his trademark thing now, but what can ya do. It should be pointed out that he rarely even wore those in the 90's. I think he only had em on in 1 of his music videos and wouldn't generally perform live with em on in those days.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:31 AM
And Matt Sharp and Mikey Welsh were always trendy guys, always trying to look cool and shit

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:31 AM
It's not just the way they dress. It's in their sound and lyrics.

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:35 AM
Yeah, they definitely tried to ham that shit up later in their career.

Like Beverly Hills... That song pretty much emblemizes exactly what you're saying.

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:37 AM
But that was ALWAYS their image. No one thinks of Weezer as anything other than that "Geek band that comic con people like".

fuzzyroes
07-25-2014, 08:45 AM
I dunno man. Heres some footage of the band from their glory days. Doesn't seem like they're trying to look geeky or anything

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Rivers just naturally looks nerdy

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:54 AM
It's not about them TRYING to look or sound like anything.

It's the fact that that's all they are. Again, it's all of the loser with none of the intelligence.
Most musicians are geeks or outsiders to some degree but there's much more to them than that.

pavementtune
07-25-2014, 08:54 AM
But that was ALWAYS their image. No one thinks of Weezer as anything other than that "Geek band that comic con people like".

says a guy your age. I mean sorry elphy, but what do you know what no one thinks of Weezer?

Shallowed
07-25-2014, 08:55 AM
Rivers' depression in the 90's sure manifested itself physically

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Elphenor
07-25-2014, 08:56 AM
My age is pretty irrelevant here. I'm not sure how it matters.

pavementtune
07-25-2014, 08:59 AM
"oh really, weezer was anybody's favorite band once? lolol
no none thinks of them as anything but the band comic con fans like"

I mean, seriously. I don't think something like that would fall out of your mouth if you were even born when Weezer started.

That's like me saying oh really, nobody thinks of the Stones as anything but old farts nobody cares about.
But please, continue.

Shallowed
07-25-2014, 09:00 AM
I don't think someone who only just left high school can say that someone else never left high school

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 09:04 AM
Idk. Most people who were around when Weezer started tell me that's exactly what they were even then.

I feel like the whole geek pop thing is what Weezer owes its success to. Which is why Pinkerton didn't do nearly as well as Blue.

Weezer is a band I actually like btw. I just think it would be funny to list them as your FAVORITE band.

Shallowed
07-25-2014, 09:14 AM
I thought Weezer just were who they were without putting on any kind of geeky "act", and people picked up on it. I personally believe that almost every artists worry a great deal about their image whether they admit to it or not, but Weezer as they existed in the 90's doesn't seem to intentionally come across as geeky, it feels pretty genuinely who they are. SO PUNK RAWK.

A band like Fun come across as pretending to be geeky.

D.
07-25-2014, 10:26 AM
I haven't read the thread yet so it's probably way off track by now.

Before I actually read the thread, though, I didn't dig Blue for the longest time. I was introduced via Green in 2001so that was always my fave. I still like Green, Blue, and some of Make Believe (the last mostly because of nostalgia since it came out during the best summer of my life and it was mine and B's first concert together). Pinkerton doesn't really do it for me and I haven't bothered with anything after Make Believe.

Alright now I'll go read the thread.

soniclovenoize
07-25-2014, 10:37 AM
Nah man. I just used to be a HUGE Weezer fan. They were easily my favorite band for the longest time. That started to wane a bit after the Green album and Maladroit and pretty much stopped by the time that Beverly Hills song came out... But I've always checked out their new releases and theres always been flashes of brilliance still present. So I think it's promising that they recorded with Ocasik and are deadset on bringing back the old vibes.

Autotune was part of the old vibes?

soniclovenoize
07-25-2014, 01:31 PM
Any everclear fans?

Yeah-ah

soniclovenoize
07-25-2014, 01:32 PM
*Note that I wasn't actually saying I am an Everclear fan; rather I was making a jestful observation that Alexis Schlamegaban or whatever his name is always says "yeah-ah" in his songs.

slunken
07-25-2014, 04:04 PM
WE LIVED ON MEXICAN BEER WE LIVED ON MEXICAN FOOD

Elphenor
07-25-2014, 04:17 PM
I thought Weezer just were who they were without putting on any kind of geeky "act", and people picked up on it. I personally believe that almost every artists worry a great deal about their image whether they admit to it or not, but Weezer as they existed in the 90's doesn't seem to intentionally come across as geeky, it feels pretty genuinely who they are. SO PUNK RAWK.

A band like Fun come across as pretending to be geeky.

I wasn't really trying to say that they were posing as geeks, they really were geeks and stuff

cardiac
07-27-2014, 09:58 AM
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That solo, man. It's easy to forget how great they were once upon a time.

cardiac
07-27-2014, 10:10 AM
+ there's a bunch of fantastic songs from the last decade or so even though they haven't been able to put out a consistently great album since Pinkerton. Some of this stuff is just as good as they ever were.

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Lucky Day Spa
07-27-2014, 11:11 AM
eh, i don't get it

that last one is almost comically juvenile

WHEN YA POISON SEEPS THROUGH AND YA LAUGHIN' AT MEEEEEE

Lucky Day Spa
07-27-2014, 11:12 AM
from now on i'm going to refer to weezer as WIZZER

just an FYI

Lucky Day Spa
07-27-2014, 11:13 AM
Q: do you like weezer?

A: oh you mean wizzer? yeah their first two albums were okay but i can't really get into any of the latter-day wizzer tbh

Trotskilicious
07-27-2014, 06:23 PM
My age is pretty irrelevant here. I'm not sure how it matters.

remember when i just guessed how old you were based on the stuff you post

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 05:13 AM
I never took Weezer seriously. They just were a peripheral 90's rock band to me. Like Gin Blossoms or Hootie or whatever. I wasn't aware they were in discussions about great bands of the 90's.

As an aside, I knew a girl in the 90's whose favorite band was Better Than Ezra. I used to ask her over and over what her favorite band was just to her her say that it was Better Than Ezra. It just baffled me. It's like when you find out as an adult that your cousin is gay and you slept in the same bed all the time when you were children. You understand it and you're fine with it, it's just that the mind cannot immediately accept it.

Gin Blossoms is a pretty good band.

Weezer released a ton of great material in the 90's, but if you weren't actually a fan it would be super easy to be unaware of that. I mean, there was a large majority of people who just thought of them as that "buddy holly, sweater song band".

There popularity growth really was sort of a cult thing after they fizzled out of the mainstream eye after Buddy Holly.

Trotskilicious
07-28-2014, 05:16 AM
gin blossoms is not a good band

Trotskilicious
07-28-2014, 05:16 AM
and weezer had lots of hit songs after buddy holly

god damn are you that uninformed?

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 05:24 AM
I mean come on poots, just check out some of these Weezer B-sides. A lot of these tracks are much better than some of the tracks that made it onto the albums

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fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 05:26 AM
and weezer had lots of hit songs after buddy holly

god damn are you that uninformed?

During their original run, Buddy Holly was their last big hit. Say it Aint so was a follow up and it didn't really do much at the time.

El Scorcho and the Good life were the only singles off of Pinkerton and they were both big flops.

Trotskilicious
07-28-2014, 05:32 AM
"Original run"?

just admit the sentence you said was false

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 05:36 AM
I was referring to the time between Pinkerton and when they came back with Hash Pipe as a smash hit. Cause Poots was talking about his perception of Weezer being a Better Than Eztra type band during the 90's, and to the people who only knew them as "that 2-hit band", it could have seemed that way at the time.

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 05:37 AM
I mean, I remember the time around 97 or 98 when the Blue Album was in every discount bin for like 4.99

Raskolnikov
07-28-2014, 12:15 PM
+ there's a bunch of fantastic songs from the last decade or so even though they haven't been able to put out a consistently great album since Pinkerton. Some of this stuff is just as good as they ever were.

-Pig
-The Angel and the One
-Unspoken


Seeing those first two - which are both rock solid "new" Weezer songs - made me wonder if somehow there had been another equally rad song from either Raditude or Hurley that I had missed. But, yeah... not really the case. Unspoken didn't do much for me.

soniclovenoize
07-28-2014, 12:28 PM
During their original run, Buddy Holly was their last big hit. Say it Aint so was a follow up and it didn't really do much at the time.


Literally every teenager in the mid-90s who played guitar will disagree with you.

Say It Ain't So was like the Gloria of the mid 90s. It was inescapable.

soniclovenoize
07-28-2014, 12:35 PM
I mean, I remember the time around 97 or 98 when the Blue Album was in every discount bin for like 4.99

Not trying to be in The Weezer Defense League because lol but
- The time directly preceding that, literally EVERY kid I knew owned and loved The Blue Album and elevated them to legendary status, equals to like SP or whatever .
- The time directly following that, I saw Weezer twice on their 2000 reunion show, and both shows were COMPLETELY packed, with a mix of 20-year-olds who wanted some teenage nostalgia and then legit 16-17 year olds who somehow knew about this band, probably from inheriting their older brother's CD collections. I thought they had been a forgotten 90s band, but clearly that wasn't the case. This was before "Hash Pipe" was even recorded, let alone released, and that song eventually restarted the entire cycle.

With all that said, at the time The Blue Album was as crucial and utterly essential as Smash by The Offspring. Take that as you want.

soniclovenoize
07-28-2014, 03:40 PM
I don't care about either things you just said.

Trotskilicious
07-28-2014, 06:18 PM
me either, especially if exile on mainstreet is the holiest of holies

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 07:09 PM
Literally every teenager in the mid-90s who played guitar will disagree with you.

Say It Ain't So was like the Gloria of the mid 90s. It was inescapable.

Say It Ain't so was always a fan favorite, but it didn't really do much in the mainstream sense, at least not here in Canada. I don't really recall it charting all that well or getting a ton of radio play.

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 07:15 PM
- The time directly following that, I saw Weezer twice on their 2000 reunion show, and both shows were COMPLETELY packed, with a mix of 20-year-olds who wanted some teenage nostalgia and then legit 16-17 year olds who somehow knew about this band, probably from inheriting their older brother's CD collections. I thought they had been a forgotten 90s band, but clearly that wasn't the case. This was before "Hash Pipe" was even recorded, let alone released, and that song eventually restarted the entire cycle.

With all that said, at the time The Blue Album was as crucial and utterly essential as Smash by The Offspring. Take that as you want.

No doubt, I agree with Most of this. By 2000 they had grown exponentially, but it was kind of a cult following type of growth. Pinkerton didn't sell well outta the gate and was initially considered to be a flop but year after year it kept on selling pretty steadily and by 2000, 2001 the record had actually went gold. Weezer was more of an underground, hero type of band in 2000 as opposed to having any sort of mainstream relevancy like they enjoyed in 94 and 95 or whatever.

I don't think that the Blue album was as essential in the 90's as Smash though. Smash was right up there with Dookie as being one of the biggest albums of it's time.

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 07:17 PM
I mean, lets face it. On a cultural level one could argue that Smash had more of an impact and was a "bigger" record than Siamese Dream. It was THAT popular.

fuzzyroes
07-28-2014, 07:20 PM
The Offspring were objectively a turdish band. Literally, a band made up of turds with songs of shit.

Smash was/is a brilliant album. I'd rate it right up there with some of the best Punk records.

They sure fucking fell from grace after that album. Ixnay was definitely a major step down and wasn't even nearly as good, but everything after that album was a total embarrassment. The Offspring absolutely just lost it. Puzzling really.

soniclovenoize
07-28-2014, 07:22 PM
Why did I bring up Smash?

soniclovenoize
07-28-2014, 08:07 PM
More like Exile On Ambien Street

pavementtune
07-28-2014, 08:09 PM
It was true in my little corner of the world, Smash was huge. Didn't it sell more than any indie album before or something? (Edit: yes, it did.) I still have it on cassette, loved it.

The album hit me right in the phase where the kiddie parties and sleepovers get weird, you talk too loud, play music even louder, and get angry all the time. Super annoying 12-year-old girl for everybody else, but it felt damn good to yell along.
Perfect puberty soundtrack.

La la lalala la la lallalla


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pavementtune
07-28-2014, 08:18 PM
Fuzzy was actually right in terms of popularity - if you go by album sales.
Smash - 11 m
Siamese Dream - 6.5 m

Trotskilicious
07-29-2014, 03:22 AM
And Exile On Main Street is fucking genius.

sure

Trotskilicious
07-29-2014, 06:37 PM
not even the stones best record

i mean sure, everyone says it's the best these days but why, because there's no iconic RS songs on it? because there was a reissue lately?

let it bleed, every time.

Elphenor
07-29-2014, 09:01 PM
I only like Rocks Off on that record really.

Ive always felt their debut was their best. But Im not a RS expert

Shallowed
07-29-2014, 10:18 PM
Satanic Majesties and Out of Our Heads are the only RS albums that I liked upon first listen.

I can't even remember a single song from Exile.

Trotskilicious
07-29-2014, 10:51 PM
neither can i to be honest, which is why i'm so confused why it's the consensus critic's pick "best" RS album.

i feel like they give it bonus points because there isn't a track on it that's been worn out like some of their other monolithic ultra hits, but don't fault gimme shelter for that. shit's incredible, that's why it got worn out.

Trotskilicious
07-29-2014, 10:52 PM
course i shouldn't be agreeing with someone who actually liked satanic majesties

Trotskilicious
07-29-2014, 10:54 PM
Ive always felt their debut was their best. But Im not a RS expert

yeah no kidding

"debut"

lol

Lucky Day Spa
07-29-2014, 11:24 PM
sex chorizo is actually a pretty good LP for its time

Elphenor
07-29-2014, 11:50 PM
yeah no kidding

"debut"

lol

I don't get what's funny here honestly.

*sigh*

Trotskilicious
07-29-2014, 11:52 PM
no kidding

Elphenor
07-29-2014, 11:54 PM
Now it's bothering me. I meant the album that has "King Bee" on it. That is their first album right?

Elphenor
07-29-2014, 11:54 PM
WHAT THE FUCK TROTS

IM NOT STUPID I SWEAR

Trotskilicious
07-30-2014, 01:08 AM
Aftermath, released April 1966 by Decca Records, is the fourth British studio album by the Rolling Stones. It was released in the United States in June 1966 by London Records as their sixth American album. The album is considered an artistic breakthrough for the band, being the first full-length release to consist entirely of Mick Jagger/Keith Richards compositions.

Trotskilicious
07-30-2014, 01:10 AM
first two collections are basically a blues cover band

out of our heads is the first real proper "album"

one of the things about early rock "albums" is that it's mostly just collections of singles that the band put out. beatles are the same.

Trotskilicious
07-30-2014, 01:35 AM
oh yeah shine a light

sorry about that

Trotskilicious
07-30-2014, 01:38 AM
probably should give it another try

probably won't replace let it bleed though THIS RECORD SHOULD BE PLAYED LOUD

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:01 AM
Some new clips have been released from Weezers upcoming album and some it actually sounds really damn good. The Ocasek production sounds fantastic. I think this is actually going to be a really good release.

Listen to how nice this sounds. It features "Best Coast" Just a nice sounding wall of guitar to enhance things.

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Cool As Ice Cream
09-18-2014, 04:09 AM
I think this is actually going to be a really good release.of course you do.

Listen to how nice this sounds.no.

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:17 AM
Heres a brand-new track released. It's pretty good. Has some cool moments, I'll see if it grows on me.

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fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:17 AM
The solo shreds. Cuomos right up there as far as current guitarists go.

Trotskilicious
09-18-2014, 04:27 AM
why is best coast in quotation marks

what the fuck is wrong with you

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:35 AM
It lets people know it's the name of the artist. I'm sure most people don't know who the fuck Best Coast is.

Trotskilicious
09-18-2014, 04:43 AM
YOU ARE TALKING TO THE NETPHORIA MUSIC BOARD ALMOST ALL OF US KNOW THAT BAND BECAUSE WE PAY ATTENTION

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:44 AM
Are they even any good? They opened for the Pixies when I saw them. But I didn't bother to check em out. I just showed up for Pixies.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-18-2014, 04:46 AM
Are they even any good? They opened for the Pixies when I saw them. But I didn't bother to check em out. I just showed up for Pixies.

careful now! that's a very hipster attitude.

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:48 AM
Ehh not really. Decided to get my drink on before hand at the pub across the street instead of paying some inflated club price for booze.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-18-2014, 04:54 AM
wow ur like so cool with your drinking of alcohol
and ur saving monnies
u got it all figured out dont u

Trotskilicious
09-18-2014, 04:54 AM
i'm confused bram, i thought showing up to see what the opening acts were like to scout out talent and be exposed to something you profess to enjoy i.e. music was the fucking dirtbag piece of shit hipster approach

Trotskilicious
09-18-2014, 04:55 AM
because that's what I do i dunno about u guys that's why i like cold cave FUCKIN HIPSTAR FAGGOT BITCH BEARDO LOSER FAG

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 04:57 AM
why you gotta be such an instigator all the time Trots?

Trotskilicious
09-18-2014, 05:00 AM
hey by the way if you want to know if best coast is any good why don't you fucking decide for yourself

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 05:02 AM
wouldn't know where to start. I listened to a track or 2 years ago and it was pretty "meh"

fuzzyroes
09-18-2014, 05:03 AM
You're right though. I think I might check her out. Her voice sounds fantastic in that =w= clip.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-18-2014, 05:06 AM
i'm confused bram, i thought showing up to see what the opening acts were like to scout out talent and be exposed to something you profess to enjoy i.e. music was the fucking dirtbag piece of shit hipster approach

you're right.
i'm not very good at trying to hipstigmatize others. i tried, but i failed.
on top of that, i will often skip opening bands myself, and have some beers out of a real glass instead.

Trotskilicious
09-18-2014, 05:48 AM
i like real beers in cans

Sonic Johnny
09-18-2014, 06:37 AM
Decided to get my drink on before hand at the pub across the street instead of paying some inflated club price for booze.

rite?! Like every time I go to a gig I do this!! Pearl JAm rule fuck Ticketmaster!

Shallowed
09-18-2014, 08:08 AM
Fuzzyroes must be the only person who tries to actively discover music by not listening to it, either live or recorded.

fuzzyroes
09-19-2014, 05:26 AM
I'm constantly checking out old/new music that's been previously unheard by me. I check out bands live all of the time.

fuzzyroes
09-19-2014, 05:30 AM
Just checked out a few Best Coast videos. Not bad. Pretty cool. Doesn't really get me stoked or anything though. The singers cute as a bugs ear though.

Trotskilicious
09-19-2014, 05:39 AM
Fuzzyroes must be the only person who tries to actively discover music by not listening to it, either live or recorded.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BE REAL

fuzzyroes
09-19-2014, 06:02 AM
I dunno man. A lot of these new alternative bands just don't have any urgency or intensity in their sound. I'm still entirely open minded when it comes to new-music.

Shallowed
09-19-2014, 07:28 AM
You're as open-minded as a zombie.

TheDeuce
09-19-2014, 01:08 PM
seeing weezer tonight at riot fest in denver. they're playing the whole blue album, so i'm pretty stoked.

Barry swedgin
09-19-2014, 07:46 PM
Some new clips have been released from Weezers upcoming album and some it actually sounds really damn good. The Ocasek production sounds fantastic. I think this is actually going to be a really good release.

Listen to how nice this sounds. It features "Best Coast" Just a nice sounding wall of guitar to enhance things.

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Agreed...this sounds nice. I've been Weezer'd right up today due to this thread. :)

fuzzyroes
09-20-2014, 12:24 AM
I hope the new albums rad. I've heard some other clips that were kinda meh.

I'm not sure what to expect but from what I've read Rivers is really going all out considering this a make or break effort. So I have faith that he can deliver

fuzzyroes
09-24-2014, 05:52 AM
311's fucking terrible. I hear they have a cult following. Now that shit is frat-boy rock.

fuzzyroes
09-24-2014, 05:57 AM
So what do you guys think is going to be better? Monuments to an elegy or the new Weezer album?

Any predictions?

My bets on the Weezer album. Corgans voice is just charmless lately.

null123
09-24-2014, 01:59 PM
Why is naivete so infuriating

fuzzyroes
10-03-2014, 05:19 AM
The new Weezer album is streaming on Itunes for free. You guys should give it a listen. It's pretty damn good.

I wasn't entirely sure what I thought at first, but now after a couple of listens I'm really starting to dig it. Bar-none as far as the guitar work goes. Really nice production too.

Have any of you guys checked it out yet?

fuzzyroes
10-03-2014, 06:07 AM
Great tune:

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Elphenor
10-03-2014, 06:28 AM
I feel like by pressing play on either of those videos I would actually lose what very little cool I have

fuzzyroes
10-03-2014, 06:30 AM
yeah man. The kinds of music people listen to is what makes them cool or not.

Shallowed
10-03-2014, 06:31 AM
See: everything you've ever said about hipsters

fuzzyroes
10-03-2014, 06:38 AM
I'm being sarcastic

Shallowed
10-03-2014, 07:20 AM
You're also being a dumb shit.

fuzzyroes
10-04-2014, 05:10 PM
No ones given this a listen yet?

Trotskilicious
10-04-2014, 06:45 PM
I'm being sarcastic

Do you even know what this word means?

fuzzyroes
10-04-2014, 08:03 PM
First track... Too much guitar wankery and 2nd track sounds like Sir Paul. Let it be fuzzy ;)

Sorry but I just enjoy the first couple albums they got.

Oddly, the first 2 tracks are 2 of the worst on the album.

I'd say the best tracks are: go away, da vinci, lonely girl, foolish father, the last 3 part song, and cleopatra.

Classic Weezer awesomeness.

This is an awesome return to form. I'm impressed

fuzzyroes
10-04-2014, 08:04 PM
Eulogy for a rock band is pretty sweet too

fuzzyroes
10-04-2014, 08:05 PM
The production just sounds fantastic. Ocasek knocked this one outta the park.

fuzzyroes
10-04-2014, 08:06 PM
Go away and Lonely girl sounds like golden era Weezer

soniclovenoize
10-07-2014, 10:26 AM
OK fuzzy you win I'll give this a chance. I'm listening right now...

Ain't Got Nobody - meh
Back to the Shack - this is "Beverly Hills"-level terrible.
Eulogy For A Rock Band - eh not bad I guess. Oh wait the middle eight is bad.
Lonely Girl - Kinda sounds like a crappy Pinkerton outtake that fans kid themselves and say "It's great!" not because of it's actual quality but just because of the fact it was a Pinkerton outtake.
I've Had It Up To Here - Is this really a song about not selling out? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
The British Are Coming - Overproduction doesn't make a shitty Alone song not sound like a shitty Alone song.
Da Vinci - This is actually not awful, so far the only worthwhile song on the album.
Go Away - I would like this Maladroit filler to go away.
Cleopatra - Almost decent until that buttrock breakdown.
Foolish Father - The good news is this is not a terrible song; the bad news is that this is only the second non-terrible song and the album's almost over.
The Waste Land/Anonymous/Return to Ithaca - I usually like it when bands go "Let's throw all our half finished song ideas into one long medley!" but this is just obnoxious.


RATING: D+
What's worse than Weezer trying to sound like vintage Weezer is Weezer actually sounding like they are trying to sound like vintage Weezer.

Elphenor
10-07-2014, 10:57 AM
Cleopatra - Almost decent until that buttrock breakdown.

I laughed.

I just had to give it a spin after that review. And yeah, this is criminally lame. Worse than I expected actually.
There's nothing more lame than songs where you whine about not being relevant anymore.

This is not even Dad Rock. This is like Mom Rock. I bet my Mom would like this album.

sppunk
10-07-2014, 03:05 PM
Rivers was on WTF last week, a good interview.

Essentially they tried to recreate Blue.

They of course failed.

yo soy el mejor
10-07-2014, 07:37 PM
when i saw weezer in 2000, some monk looking guy came up to us outside the venue and asked, 'do you like veezer?' could'a been moby.

that was the summer i decided to not shave my legs - i hate shaving my legs. i shaved an L into one and wore shorts that day, but you couldn't really tell.

i feel about weezer the same way i do the pumpkins.

Trotskilicious
10-07-2014, 10:11 PM
Almost every band has an expiration date

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 03:45 AM
OK fuzzy you win I'll give this a chance. I'm listening right now...

Ain't Got Nobody - meh
Back to the Shack - this is "Beverly Hills"-level terrible.
Eulogy For A Rock Band - eh not bad I guess. Oh wait the middle eight is bad.
Lonely Girl - Kinda sounds like a crappy Pinkerton outtake that fans kid themselves and say "It's great!" not because of it's actual quality but just because of the fact it was a Pinkerton outtake.
I've Had It Up To Here - Is this really a song about not selling out? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
The British Are Coming - Overproduction doesn't make a shitty Alone song not sound like a shitty Alone song.
Da Vinci - This is actually not awful, so far the only worthwhile song on the album.
Go Away - I would like this Maladroit filler to go away.
Cleopatra - Almost decent until that buttrock breakdown.
Foolish Father - The good news is this is not a terrible song; the bad news is that this is only the second non-terrible song and the album's almost over.
The Waste Land/Anonymous/Return to Ithaca - I usually like it when bands go "Let's throw all our half finished song ideas into one long medley!" but this is just obnoxious.


RATING: D+
What's worse than Weezer trying to sound like vintage Weezer is Weezer actually sounding like they are trying to sound like vintage Weezer.

Pretty harsh review man

Cool As Ice Cream
10-09-2014, 03:56 AM
shut the fuck up, fuzzy

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 04:13 AM
Heres my review:

Ain't got nobody- Pretty lame way to open the album. Not a very good song. Overly poppy and doesn't have much redeeming quality. The song features a really fun, groovin' guitar solo though. Nice guitar tone throughout the song too.

Back to the shack- The first time I heard this I thought " ahhh.... i dunno about that. I'm not sure I like that. But it really is the kind of song that grows on you. It's simple, fun has some great riffing. Not a bad single

Eulogy for a rock band- Great song. Well written and totally self aware. Vintage =w= with a fresh original spin.

Lonely Girl - An overly poppy song again, but this one has substance. Really fun track and a quality Rivers trademarked solo. The outro's fantastic too. I love when Brian Bell comes in the last few bars with the back-up vocals. Creates a great harmony.

I've had it up to here- Total filler crap. I always skip this one

The British are coming- Not a very good song, but the production sounds fantastic and the guitar work really salvages the song. The last 5 seconds of the guitar outro is probably the coolest part of this track. But this is another one I usually skip.

Da Vinci- Great fucking song right here. Fresh and current but has that epic Weezer chemistry that's been missing from some of their later releases. Killer chorus and epic bridge. This should have been the lead single. Ocaseks production really shines on this track.

Go Away[B] -Another one of the albums "A" tracks. Awesome atmospheric guitar work and just a lovely vocal duet here with the lead singer from Best Coast. Some of Rivers' best singing on the album.

[B]Cleopatra- Fantastic, chilling song about growing old and fading sex-appeal. Great song and that features a deadly guitar solo and a killer breakdown. It's grade-A =w= and it's awesome cause it's fresh and previously uncharted territory for the quartet.

Foolish Father really nice, charming song. infectious melodies and great harmonies.

The Waste land/Annonymous/return to Ithica- An epic finale to the album. The Wasteland really showcases the bands talents at jamming. This is a track that harkens back to "Only in dreams" but that is much more fundamentally proficient. Annoymous might be the highlight to the album. When the chorus kicks in at a faster tempo some of the guitar work is just fantastic, you can't help but smile. It's really fucking sweet and worth a listen from even the most casual of Weezer listeners

Rating: A

There really is some brilliant work on this album. If there was another couple great songs I think this album would be up their as one of their best. The 2nd half of the album is just brilliant but theres too much filler at the beginning.

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 04:17 AM
This is not even Dad Rock. This is like Mom Rock. I bet my Mom would like this album.



You're a big fan of Franz Ferdinald. That's the ultimate Mom rock.

Shallowed
10-09-2014, 05:59 AM
Any The Fall fans here?

Shallowed
10-09-2014, 06:00 AM
you should check them out

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 06:03 AM
Not a band group. Kinda boarders on being pretentious, brit-rock crap a lot of the time. They have some good tunes, but they have too many god-awful tracks filling their library.

Mals Marola
10-09-2014, 06:04 AM
not a band group, more of a solo act
clever shit, fuzzy roes, clever shit

Shallowed
10-09-2014, 06:13 AM
You gotta dig Mark though, the guy always keeps it interesting. The guy featured on a track on a Gorillaz album for crying out loud, total "club banger". Just awesome.

soniclovenoize
10-09-2014, 09:59 AM
Pretty harsh review man

The truth hurts.

Also you admitted there's some big filler on this album, yet you gave it an A. What kind of logic is that?

toase
10-09-2014, 12:00 PM
It's Weezer's Oceania
Every critic loved it, I don't...

F.Delacroix
10-09-2014, 12:13 PM
These guys are fantastic.
Anyone else like em?
If you haven't heard of them you should check em out,
heres a few of their big hits:

Shallowed
10-09-2014, 02:31 PM
<strike>A Haiku:</strike>
Not a Haiku:

~o~

If you haven't heard of them
You should check them out
Here's some of their hits

~o~

soniclovenoize
10-09-2014, 02:37 PM
Shallowed, you fucked up
5-7-5, that is the
Syllable pattern

Shallowed
10-09-2014, 02:40 PM
Fixed it

The exploding boy
10-09-2014, 03:01 PM
If you want to des
troy my sweater hold this thread
As i walk away

soniclovenoize
10-09-2014, 04:31 PM
Fixed it

Ugh, no no that is
Still not right. You should switch lines
One and two around.

soniclovenoize
10-09-2014, 04:35 PM
fuzzyroes tricked me
Weezer played at full volume?
Mediocrity

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:06 PM
You're a big fan of Franz Ferdinald. That's the ultimate Mom rock.

I actually asked my Mom the other day. She indeed likes Weezer.

She doesn't know who Franz Ferdinand is

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:11 PM
Not a band group. Kinda boarders on being pretentious, brit-rock crap a lot of the time. They have some good tunes, but they have too many god-awful tracks filling their library.

It's like you're allergic to anything with even the slightest bit of intelligence

The exploding boy
10-09-2014, 05:20 PM
You parents have pretty hip tastes by parents standards.

For my dad his musical world is french singers like Ferrat, Brel, Piaf, Ferre. Also Nana Mouskouri. He's never liked anything they call rock. Or listened to anything in english either i don't think.

My mom was a huge beatles fan as a teen and i got my pink floyd tapes from her when i was a teen myself and some of the 80s pop she liked when i was a kid i listen to today but i'd be hard pressed to find anything she likes that's post 80's and i suspect Weezer or Franz Ferdinand would sound too "harsh" for her.

Of course your parents probably have 15 to 20 years less than mine.

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:25 PM
The truth hurts.

Also you admitted there's some big filler on this album, yet you gave it an A. What kind of logic is that?

Theres about 3 shitty tracks on the album. But the good songs are knocked outta the park. For me, if I dig half of an album, that's a huge deal. Even a lot of bands that I really like I'll only dig a couple of songs from certain albums. It's really rare for me to find an album that I love all the way thru.

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:27 PM
I actually asked my Mom the other day. She indeed likes Weezer.

She doesn't know who Franz Ferdinand is

Who gives a fuck what your mom likes?

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:29 PM
It's like you're allergic to anything with even the slightest bit of intelligence

What are you even on about? "Intelligence" isn't something that pops into my mind while listening to the Falls music.

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:29 PM
I was pretty much joking. Weezer doesn't suck because my Mom likes them, they suck because they're brainless

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:30 PM
They have some good stuff though... Also a lot of mediocre crap. It's a mixed bag IMO.

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:30 PM
What are you even on about? "Intelligence" isn't something that pops into my mind when listening to the Falls music.

lol

"The difference between you and us
Is we have brains
Because we're Northern white crap
But we talk back!"

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:31 PM
It's subjective and all, but seriously critically speaking Marky is considered one of the smartest lyricists in all of Rock

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:34 PM
He's an original lyricist, I'll give you that. But theres nothing really "intelligent" about it

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:36 PM
I dunno man. Maybe I gotta get into em a little more. I youtubed a bunch of their stuff for a couple hours one night but I guess I gotta let it simmer a little more.

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:36 PM
The whole point is intelligence bro.

Again, post-punk.

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:37 PM
"I listened to The Fall for a couple hours and can now make a judgement about t****

lololololol

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:38 PM
Well then he's failing miserably

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:38 PM
Well I listened to a few albums all the way thru and there was nothing intelligent about them.

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:41 PM
I feel my IQ dropping just talking to you

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 05:43 PM
share some of these lyrics that you find so intelligent

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:46 PM
Now all the bourgeoisie
They hate our crazy scene
'cause we dig pop-sick stickers
We like weaker tea"

My favorite lines from the Fall song I have on repeat right now

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 05:51 PM
"Peter Cook's jokes, bad dope, check shirts, lousy groups
Point their fingers at America
Down pokey quaint streets in Cambridge
Cycles our distant spastic heritage"

The exploding boy
10-09-2014, 06:00 PM
"I listened to The Fall for a couple hours and can now make a judgement about t****

lololololol


Well certainly not on their lyrics probably you couldn't judge them (for one if youre not reading them, you probably cant understand them) that well but i feel listening to a band for a couple of hours, meaning probably in fall's case at least four records (IF one isnt skipping any song after like 30 seconds), should be enough to be able to make a more or less fair judgment on the band. Or any band. Any band i need more than 2 hours to know if i'm kinda into isn't actually worth me trying to get into.

I did listen to the fall for about half of like 5 records once, i think it's fair enough a try to say i'm not into them. I kinda knew that after 2 or 3 songs actually to be honest. I understand the idea that some bands are like "beautiful messes" but i generally don't like that type of band. For one in the fall i feel the message is more important than the music. Which is fine but not my thing. In fact nowadays i find it hard to give a shit about any message in music at all.

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 06:04 PM
Impeccably put TEB. I definitely mirror that sentiment.

When I was younger I'd be all inspired by a bands message or what they stood for, but now I couldn't care less about that shit. It's mostly all just posturing by the artist anyways. If I'm going to want to learn about something or be educated I'm not going to turn to music to try and achieve that. It's mostly just the emotional content of the song/lyrics that resonates with me.

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 06:05 PM
"Peter Cook's jokes, bad dope, check shirts, lousy groups
Point their fingers at America
Down pokey quaint streets in Cambridge
Cycles our distant spastic heritage"

yeah, so intelligent man:dammit:

Elphenor
10-09-2014, 06:09 PM
It's totally fair to say you don't dig them, but after a few hours trying to make any assessment about them other than your own personal tastes is fucking retarded

fuzzyroes
10-09-2014, 06:11 PM
If I'm not going to make an assessment based on my own opinion then what am I going to base it on?