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Raskolnikov
06-25-2014, 06:50 PM
marginnnnnn

Raskolnikov
06-25-2014, 06:51 PM
From her Facebook page this afternoon:

For those of you asking about my SP status, I would like to give you some clarity. I am not currently working on the next album. I may however be touring with the band some time next year. At the moment I am focusing on my band The Cold and Lovely. I am also open to working with other artists if the right project presents itself. Thank you all for your continued support on this musical journey of mine!

Love, Nicole

How weird is that - she's right there helping to write Oceania, then he's just "I'll handle the bass on this one, you take a breather." Oddball.

SlingeroGuitaro
06-25-2014, 07:29 PM
or, how about this for a thought, her contract was up after the oceania tour which freed her up to do another project and billy wanted to continue writing and recording.

TuralyonW3
06-25-2014, 07:30 PM
Bill probably doesn't want to pay her. Zuzu's is still in the red

Order 66
06-25-2014, 07:31 PM
thought it was pretty much given. haven't been following the byrne "drama" but i'm guessing it's the same case there

Trotskilicious
06-25-2014, 07:55 PM
or, how about this for a thought, her contract was up after the oceania tour which freed her up to do another project and billy wanted to continue writing and recording.

that's not how the business works! what do you know! this is a personal swipe!!!

juliana
06-25-2014, 07:59 PM
?

What is interestig is she is sorta saying she will tour if nothing better comes along.

juliana
06-25-2014, 08:00 PM
Maybe they are stringing each other along?

scottytheoneand
06-25-2014, 08:00 PM
Juliana to thread!

juliana
06-25-2014, 08:06 PM
Oooooooooooh you know what is interesting. Katelan Fosey who is nicole's best friend is also the person who did that art show in nyc.

PLOT TWIST!

slunken
06-25-2014, 08:29 PM
its cheaper to rehire nicole to tour than it would be to train a new bassist that's business 101

juliana
06-25-2014, 08:31 PM
True.

slunken
06-25-2014, 08:35 PM
I feel like people care more about who's in the touring band than the actual new music. That's partially true to what BC says; people don't care about new records they just want to see the band live and hear the songs they love and then forget about it the next day. I wish, as I've stated before, that the "band" would stop touring altogether, but apparently billy needs fame/money/both.

I'm expecting the new album to have a lot of muscle behind it and I hope its not shitty. I could care less who they have as a stand-in to fill out the bass parts. Drums, on the other hand...

juliana
06-25-2014, 08:37 PM
Guess he doesn't either.

I feel like this might tour with them next year stuff is interesting.

slunken
06-25-2014, 08:41 PM
Its nice to see him trimming the fat away in the studio. So far its just him, jeff, and tommy lee. There hasn't been a stripped down lineup of that degree since zeitgeist and i liked how lean that album sounded. i just hope he doesn't overdo it with the synths and vocal overdubs.

slunken
06-25-2014, 08:42 PM
it would be cool if all the bass parts on the album were synth

slunken
06-25-2014, 08:43 PM
does anybody else see a correlation between new music he writes and what reissue he is working on at the moment?

slunken
06-25-2014, 08:43 PM
a la teargarden, oceania, and now this?

Araneae
06-25-2014, 08:46 PM
The only correlation I can think of is that Howard Willing worked on Adore. But I'm not expecting any Adore elements on this album, but it still remains to be seen what he plans for the second album.

juliana
06-25-2014, 08:48 PM
Will nicole not be doing back up vocals for the album? I guess not. Hope he brings someone in.

Ram27
06-25-2014, 08:57 PM
The more actual players he has with him the better, I think. More people to balance out the crazy and smooth over weird ideas.

Gish, SD, MCIS were the result of four people working together on the album.


I may however be touring with the band some time next year

Cool, whatever. I just hope this doesn't mean the same for Mikey Burns

Ram27
06-25-2014, 08:59 PM
a la teargarden, oceania, and now this?

I can see the SD/Oceania correlation. Teargarden maybe a little, as both it and Gish were sort of rustic

juliana
06-25-2014, 09:08 PM
"may"

GLOWer
06-25-2014, 09:13 PM
i've noticed the exact same thing, re: reissue correlation with the new material.

just look at that weird adore throwback on the panopticon site. more, the chord progression for anaise that he posted is very gothic/adore sounding.

scottytheoneand
06-25-2014, 09:14 PM
I'm expecting the new album to have a lot of muscle behind it and I hope its not shitty. I could care less who they have as a stand-in to fill out the bass parts. Drums, on the other hand...

that seems to be what he's hinting at on his horrible blog. if he records with TL and releases Ociania 2 it will be a complete fail

qlitchford
06-25-2014, 09:18 PM
Will nicole not be doing back up vocals for the album? I guess not. Hope he brings someone in.

As others have mentioned, there seems to be of a Zeitgeist vibe going on with the direction of the album.

Maybe we'll be treated with more of the thousand-Billy choir if we're lucky? Bleeding the Orchid, but without Jimmy.

Hell, I just can't see how any of this could go wrong. :banoonoo:

Trotskilicious
06-26-2014, 01:10 AM
obviously she has some resentment based on these sentences i read

ohnoitsbonnie
06-26-2014, 01:40 AM
"I may however be touring with the band some time next year"

But she might not. Obviously Nicole is game since she is the one leaving open the possibility - the question is, is Billy?

"If Billy wants me..."

"If Billy and I patch things up..."

or

"Billy hasn't told me anything really except Mike is out and I'm not recording and I have no idea what's going on myself."

Nicole obviously has some resentment towards Billy judging from her FB comments/likes. But in the same breath seems maybe willing to still ride with SP in some fashion. Paycheck? Notoriety? Love of the band?

Very interesting.


You should leave this place.

Cool As Ice Cream
06-26-2014, 02:41 AM
piss off, daniel. nobody cares about your opinion or "jokes".

Cool As Ice Cream
06-26-2014, 02:42 AM
i bet you're just copy-pasting your posts from your own messageboard, where everyone is agreeing entirely and kissing your ass.

Cool As Ice Cream
06-26-2014, 02:43 AM
and then you're all like "oh, i can really appreciate a healthy and respectful discussion about the band. this is great."

ohnoitsbonnie
06-26-2014, 03:43 AM
You'll never be a "poster" here, Daniel.

Trotskilicious
06-26-2014, 03:52 AM
I'm crying a river over here.

That you respond to me at all speaks volumes.

about what, you're a douchy troll that inspires hatred wherever you go

what an amazing thing that you've cultivated. you must be proud.

scottytheoneand
06-26-2014, 08:24 AM
thread started out solid but now it is total fail because Belteshazzar

juliana
06-26-2014, 08:51 AM
The lyric bird couldn't even put up with this shit.

Shallowed
06-26-2014, 09:47 AM
Shut the fuck up and do some research, belt shitter

Funbags
06-26-2014, 09:48 AM
I'm sure their contracts just expired and Nicole's had an option for first dibs on the next tour.

Mike probably got a flat "your services are no longer required. Love and rainbows -WPC".

ohnoitsbonnie
06-26-2014, 09:56 AM
The lyric bird couldn't even put up with this shit.

It's yours not mine if you want to survive

juliana
06-26-2014, 10:08 AM
Bonnie, are you able to play the rainbow? if so, please snapchat with billy.

jimmy drevpile
06-26-2014, 02:36 PM
Lol. She's out and doesn't even know it.

T&T
06-26-2014, 05:32 PM
you know how to spot a retard on a message board?

he makes three posts in a row in the same thread.
http://i.imgur.com/giGvSoe.gif

T&T
06-26-2014, 05:38 PM
retards don't give a fuck about being retarded either.

juliana
06-26-2014, 06:01 PM
I fail to see how defending yourself from unprovoked personal attacks is trolling. However, unprovoked personal attacks are pretty much the exact definition of trolling, and CAIC is a notorious troll who has been trolling since before I first met him in 2003. He constantly shits on others and stirs things up. I can only conclude that he has a lot of self-loathing to project so much hatred onto others so often. I'm not looking for trouble, but God forbid on occasion I bite back when I'm bit.

And btw, I get a handful of hateful comments virtually every time I post here because I'm disliked - but that doesn't make me a troll.

YOU SHUT UP AND LEAVE CAIC ALONE!

Cool As Ice Cream
06-27-2014, 02:33 AM
1.) Belt makes some comments about the band - related to topic.

this is where you went wrong. how hard is it to get that?

Trotskilicious
06-27-2014, 02:57 AM
you know how to spot a retard on a message board?

he makes three posts in a row in the same thread.
http://i.imgur.com/giGvSoe.gif

:(

T&T
06-27-2014, 08:09 AM
belty after he left the thread:
http://i.imgur.com/zF5HM0g.gif

ohnoitsbonnie
06-27-2014, 11:33 AM
Bonnie, are you able to play the rainbow? if so, please snapchat with billy.

What's his snapchat name?

juliana
06-27-2014, 03:59 PM
What's his snapchat name?

I thought you knew, isn't he your second cousin?

The exploding boy
06-27-2014, 06:03 PM
I feel like people care more about who's in the touring band than the actual new music. That's partially true to what BC says; people don't care about new records they just want to see the band live and hear the songs they love and then forget about it the next day..

That's pretty much ANY band that's been around for over twenty years. I saw the cure live in 2004, did i give a shit about anything they played that was post 80's? Nope. I was there to hear the good stuff. You either accept that or don't and stop touring. What Corgan had to give creatively he gave. I know no musician that's been doing it for this long who is still relevant. But i don't expect them to be either. It's the nature of things. The only ones that will claim relevance is either the artist themselves or die hard fans. Name me a band that was truly justified in existing 15 years after their first record. (Actually don't bother i'll probably disagree)

slunken
06-27-2014, 06:06 PM
Are you just talking rock bands or do blues and jazz musicians count

slunken
06-27-2014, 06:07 PM
Off the top of my head though the Isley Brothers jump out but I guess they're not a rock and roll band either. The trend here seems to be that rock music is disposable

slunken
06-27-2014, 06:08 PM
Someone mention neil young , quick

slunken
06-27-2014, 06:08 PM
Ah but shoot he's not a rock band either

pavementtune
06-27-2014, 06:53 PM
Name me a band that was truly justified in existing 15 years after their first record. (Actually don't bother i'll probably disagree)

I'd say all of them were "justified" to still exist after 15 years

1979: Rolling Stones
1983: Kraftwerk
1987: Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
1995: U2
1998/2010: Swans
1999: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
2012: Mogwai

fuzzyroes
06-27-2014, 07:07 PM
It's a hard task to be relevant in a band after so long, but it's entirely doable. Green Day had their biggest success in 2004-about 15 years after they started, RHCP put out Californication 16 years after they formed, Foo-Fighters, Van Halen formed in 1972... Their biggest smash-hit came in 1984, they went on to have big success and relevancy for many years after that.

Those are just a few that pop into my mind based on a mainstream consensus that haven't been already mentioned

fuzzyroes
06-27-2014, 07:10 PM
Weezer was still playing huge arenas and had the smash-hit Pork and beans 15 years after they formed.

Corgans just burned out and doesn't have the passion anymore. His dwindling artistic output isn't exactly the norm.

Shallowed
06-27-2014, 07:30 PM
Is no one mentioning Radiohead because it's too obvious?

Trotskilicious
06-27-2014, 08:36 PM
Is no one mentioning Radiohead because it's too obvious?

15 years from 1993 is 2008 and they should have broken up after In Rainbows

YEAH I SAID IT

Trotskilicious
06-27-2014, 08:38 PM
but yeah pave said SWANNNNSSSSSS

i kind of consider Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds to be a solo project. And you can last forever being awesome when it's just you, so long as you're so fucking awesome. You know like Nick Cave or Leonard Cohen.

honestly swans falls into this category when you get down to it. Michael Gira calls the shots, it's his band, he gets to decide who he wants to play with etc.

BILL CORGAN would like this to be him but he fucking sucks and he's a self-centered asshole who will never make anything good ever again as long as he continues acting like a total stupid dick with shit for brains

pavementtune
06-27-2014, 08:49 PM
I wanted to cheat and get Nick Cave on the band list. Dig, Lazarus, Dig was 24 years after the debut, and it's a damn great record.

QOTSA/Homme is also past the 15 years mark.
I think Corgan could have made it as one man + collab act like Homme.

But playing the "SP" card over and over again... he said himself "I rode that ship all the way to the bottom."

bye june
06-28-2014, 12:45 AM
Sonic Youth

T&T
06-28-2014, 12:55 AM
honestly swans falls into this category when you get down to it. Michael Gira calls the shots, it's his band, he gets to decide who he wants to play with etc.

BILL CORGAN would like this to be him but he fucking sucks and he's a self-centered asshole who will never make anything good ever again as long as he continues acting like a total stupid dick with shit for brains

Gira is a huge control freak megalomaniac. There's plenty of stories about him tearing through his bandmates, on stage and backstage.

amoergosum
06-29-2014, 07:48 AM
Retweeted by Nicole >>>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>The world you see is a projection of the mind, if your mind is not balanced, then the world you see will seem unbalanced.</p>&mdash; Spiritual Truths (@TheGodLight) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGodLight/statuses/483083694413201408">29. Juni 2014</a></blockquote>
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scottytheoneand
06-29-2014, 09:38 AM
Weezer was still playing huge arenas and had the smash-hit Pork and beans 15 years after they formed.

Corgans just burned out and doesn't have the passion anymore. His dwindling artistic output isn't exactly the norm.

should have stopped after the Green Album. They've been making the same record over and over.

was there really a need for this?

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The exploding boy
06-29-2014, 10:27 AM
I'd say all of them were "justified" to still exist after 15 years

1979: Rolling Stones
1983: Kraftwerk
1987: Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
1995: U2
1998/2010: Swans
1999: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
2012: Mogwai

Maybe Mogwai. Even then i still think their best records are behind.

I like Springsteen but by 1987 the best was all behind. I wouldn't see him live for anything he did past the early 80's

Seriously 1995 U2? that was right before they did Pop....meaning when they started heading downward fast. Though looking back i think that had started in 1991 but most music critics i think would agree that Achtung Baby sound wise was relevant in 1991.

I really don't get the love for Swans on this forum.........


I'm not even gonna address whoever mentioned RHCP, Green day and foo Fighters. Having a hit record does not equal being relevant i'm afraid. Otherwise U2 is still relevant and that's just ridiculous (well i guess their last tanked a bit by U2 Standards...just for the note i saw Bono some time last year on TV saying that they were asking themselves does the world need another U2 record, is it still relevant? and i thought...you're asking yourself that question NOW!?!? welcome to twenty years ago....)

juliana
06-29-2014, 02:57 PM
Retweeted by Nicole >>>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>The world you see is a projection of the mind, if your mind is not balanced, then the world you see will seem unbalanced.</p>&mdash; Spiritual Truths (@TheGodLight) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGodLight/statuses/483083694413201408">29. Juni 2014</a></blockquote>
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So if your mind is balanced you won't see the inequalities in the world?

juliana
06-29-2014, 03:00 PM
FYI, previously Nicole had stated on her FB that she was looking for a new band to tour with.

Trotskilicious
06-29-2014, 05:02 PM
Gira is a huge control freak megalomaniac. There's plenty of stories about him tearing through his bandmates, on stage and backstage.

yeah i know but he's also mellowed over the years from what i understand

he's also had this same lineup of swans in place through 3 albums now

Trotskilicious
06-29-2014, 05:03 PM
So if your mind is balanced you won't see the inequalities in the world?

exactly, and then you can be happy, duh

Trotskilicious
06-29-2014, 05:04 PM
I really don't get the love for Swans on this forum.........

it's because they want to be cool like me but they can't because i'm a TROO SWANS FAN

scottytheoneand
06-29-2014, 07:20 PM
"I learned when I was young that the only true life I had was the life of my brain. But if it's true that the only real life I had was the life of my brain, what sense does it make to hand that brain to someone for eight hours a day, for their particular use, on the presumption that at the end of the day they will give it back in an unmutilated condition?” - Fryinpan Jack

juliana
06-29-2014, 07:44 PM
exactly, and then you can be happy, duh

I guess all that equality she was after was silly, she just needed to balance her mind.

Funbags
06-30-2014, 05:58 AM
Corgans just burned out and doesn't have the passion anymore. His dwindling artistic output isn't exactly the norm.

Agreed. His music career seems more about his relationship with the industry than the music itself. Remember his big announcement? "I've signed a 2 record deal!!" -everyone thought Jimmy was coming back ffs.

Lucky Day Spa
06-30-2014, 06:46 AM
So if your mind is balanced you won't see the inequalities in the world?

you mean like lazy people who don't work hard enough?

aeroplume
07-03-2014, 10:46 PM
Name me a band that was truly justified in existing 15 years after their first record. (Actually don't bother i'll probably disagree)

Radiohead - In Rainbows

aeroplume
07-03-2014, 10:49 PM
15 years from 1993 is 2008 and they should have broken up after In Rainbows

YEAH I SAID IT

You clearly have no taste.

fuzzyroes
07-04-2014, 06:21 AM
I'm not even gonna address whoever mentioned RHCP, Green day and foo Fighters. Having a hit record does not equal being relevant i'm afraid.

Come on man, you're trying to tell me that Californication and American Idiot weren't relevant albums?

I mean, both of those bands have both since fallen outta relevancy to quite a degree, but you said "after 15 years".

fuzzyroes
07-04-2014, 06:22 AM
NOFX was never relevant, but they were relevant amongst punk fans and a lot of their best music came 15-20 years after they formed.

Dinosaur Jrs comeback album was fucking awesome

fuzzyroes
07-04-2014, 06:35 AM
NOFX still killin' it

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cardiac
07-04-2014, 07:17 AM
15 years from 1993 is 2008 and they should have broken up after In Rainbows

YEAH I SAID IT

They've released one 8-song album since In Rainbows. A bit of an early call, no? Besides, if they were to only release mediocre crap from now on, it's still a phenomenal run they've had. In Rainbows is just as good, if not better, than The Bends which came out 12 years earlier.

Trotskilicious
07-04-2014, 07:19 AM
KING OF LIMB SUCKS

Trotskilicious
07-04-2014, 07:20 AM
michael gira released 3 albums, 2 of them doubles in the last THREE GODDAMN YEARS

AND BUTTFUCKING RADIOHEAD IS LIKE WHAT 8 SONGS IN 5 YEARS

AND THOM YORKE CAN'T SING ANYMORE?

FUCK THIS BAND, SHIT MAN

Trotskilicious
07-04-2014, 07:21 AM
FUCKING DINOSAUR WORSHIP WHEN IT'S OVER IT'S OVER WE ALL DIE

slunken
07-04-2014, 03:42 PM
michael gira released 3 albums, 2 of them doubles in the last THREE GODDAMN YEARS

AND BUTTFUCKING RADIOHEAD IS LIKE WHAT 8 SONGS IN 5

What an odd comparison

T&T
07-04-2014, 03:51 PM
These are artists playing different roles in the music landscape. apples and oranges imho.

bye june
07-05-2014, 10:42 AM
When I first read the title I thought this thread was about Nicole being "kinda halfway out" of the closet.

T&T
07-05-2014, 10:48 AM
When I first read the title I thought this thread was about Nicole being "kinda halfway out" of the closet.
it can be about that if you want!
but I think she's completely out on that.

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 03:45 PM
What an odd comparison

i'm just comparing productivity levels

gira's been at this since 1980 and did lots of cool stuff like angels of light as well as the new swans stuff

radiohead's coasting on rep now. i saw their ACL performance as well and it sucked, thom can't sing at all. I don't know for sure but could he ever sing outside of the studio? I feel like he could at one point.

fuck radiohead kill radiohead!!!

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 03:46 PM
These are artists playing different roles in the music landscape. apples and oranges imho.

yet again

i am comparing productivity levels

there is no "different roles" when you seem to be unable to release more than 8 shitty in rainbows c-level tracks in the past seven (!!!) goddamn years

what it says to me is a band that's 1) out of ideas 2) coasting straight to the rock and roll hall of fame

and radiohead will be there and they will fucking love it

juliana
07-05-2014, 04:11 PM
When I first read the title I thought this thread was about Nicole being "kinda halfway out" of the closet.


She is openly married to a woman... So no she is not in the straight closet.

darby
07-05-2014, 06:18 PM
someone ban this fucking idiot ffs

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 08:19 PM
i tried on the outset, sir

Trotskilicious
07-05-2014, 08:19 PM
<img src="http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=03182002">

darby
07-05-2014, 08:57 PM
im ray

Corgan's Bluff
07-05-2014, 09:05 PM
Interview of Nicole Fiorentino with For Bass Players Onlyís Jon Liebman
June 30, 2014



http://forbassplayersonly.com/interview-nicole-fiorentino/


...

FBPO: How did the Smashing Pumpkins gig come to be?

NF: I was playing with Light FM at a benefit concert for a woman named Laura Ann Masura, who had gotten into a bad motorcycle accident. She was a Chicago girl, so a bunch of Chicago people in LA got together to raise funds for her. The Light FM guys were originally from Chicago and so is Billy Corgan. We opened for his side project at the time. He watched me play that night and we met and chatted a bit after and that was it for that night. Five months later, I got a call from his management who said his bass player Ginger Pooley, had quit because she was having a baby and that Billy wanted to audition me. He flew me out to Chicago and we basically just hung out and jammed. It wasnít a formal audition at all, super mellow!


FBPO: That band has kept you pretty busy. How would you describe the experience?

NF: Yes, I have been extremely busy with the Pumpkins for the last four years. Itís been incredible, life-altering, really. Iíve been challenged musically in ways that I have never been before. Iíve really had to step up my game in so many ways, which has been an important process for me, not only as a musician, but personally as well. Iíve toured in over eight continents and have visited countries I wouldíve never dreamed I would see. Iíve played in front of crowds of over 75,000 people and had the amazing opportunity of playing on the last record, Oceania. Itís been quite an adventure to say the least!


FBPO: You must be particularly proud of Oceania. You had some pretty prominent roles in that release.

NF: Iím incredibly proud of my work on Oceania, especially since, historically, Billy has played all the bass on the SP records. It was quite an honor to be able to create my own parts and really have a voice on that album. You can really tell that the bass is all me on that record. Itís got my weird, melodic, ďwordyĒ parts all over it!
Ö

FBPO: What lies ahead for you and your career?

NF: I think very exciting things lie ahead of me. A lot more touring and recording, of course. Iíd love to get out there and play with as many different artists as I can. I have so much to learn, so I think itís important to work with a variety of musicians and take whatever I get from each experience to my next venture!


FBPO: What would you be if you werenít a bass player?

NF: I love animals, yoga and good food. I think I would probably open a cafť or teach hot yoga. Maybe run a cat rescue. Maybe all three! Iíll have to see where life takes me.




ď...I think itís important to work with a variety of musicians and take whatever I get from each experience to my next venture!Ē

ďIíll have to see where life takes me.Ē

juliana
07-05-2014, 09:48 PM
This was already posted. I think?

Ram27
07-05-2014, 10:58 PM
It wasn’t a formal audition at all, super mellow!

I’ve toured in over eight continents a


WPC has no respect for drummers.

__________________

lawl

juliana
07-05-2014, 11:04 PM
Where did she find the other continents after 7 did she go to another planet?

fuzzyroes
07-06-2014, 12:04 AM
Nicoles a good bassist and an interesting presence. I'd like to see what she could do with a decent drummer. I hope Billy brings her back in the fold.

juliana
07-06-2014, 12:11 AM
Ya she hasn't yet played the other 8 continents.

amoergosum
07-07-2014, 03:19 PM
Groundbreaking Tweet.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>Just watched <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ">@TMZ</a> for the first time in my life. Sad that I will never get those precious 30 minutes back.</p>&mdash; Nicole Fiorentino (@xocoleyf) <a href="https://twitter.com/xocoleyf/statuses/486029435569569792">7. Juli 2014</a></blockquote>
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Corgan's Bluff
07-08-2014, 06:17 PM
Nicole is touring now with NIGHT TERRORS OF 1927:

"excited to be playing bass with @nto1927 for their upcoming west coast tour! show dates here: http://nto1927.tumblr.com/ "


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmaLZCyz38&feature=youtu.be

Ram27
07-08-2014, 07:24 PM
I like the band name. It sounds like they'd have a cool aesthetic, assuming it isn't too goth and weird

Funbags
07-09-2014, 02:58 AM
From Corg's latest post:

And for those poking for inferences, you can tell who I believe can adapt by who is currently in the room with me.

Corgan's Bluff
07-09-2014, 01:57 PM
Nicole Fiorentino has already in November 2013 offered herself on her official site for other projects than the Smashing Pumpkins with the same words:

"ÖI am also available right now for touring/sessions/one-offs and am very excited about the possibilities of playing with different artists. Ö"

http://nicolefiorentino.net/news.htmlhttp://nicolefiorentino.net/news.html

juliana
07-09-2014, 02:14 PM
Ya, that's why I think the "maybe playing" with sp next year is new.

Trotskilicious
07-09-2014, 03:49 PM
you are disgusting

juliana
07-09-2014, 03:56 PM
He really is.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-10-2014, 02:51 AM
"you guys have no sense of humour."

Corgan's Bluff
07-10-2014, 07:47 AM
The interview in “For Bass Players Only”, was published a week after Nicole’s “may however be touring” SP-statement on her Facebook-site.

Why was at the interview no word spoken about her actual situation and future with the Pumpkins? Looks like she avoids telling details of it for reasons…

Trotskilicious
07-10-2014, 07:49 AM
because it's obvious to everyone else that it was a temporary gig and she was a hired gun

Trotskilicious
07-10-2014, 07:49 AM
except people on this forum, i should say

Corgan's Bluff
07-10-2014, 08:04 AM
Only astonishing that Nicole as a "hired gun" was the first bass player in the band, that Billy allowed to be involved in the recording of a whole album with her bass lines... Gave at the time the assumption that she was a full integrated band member.

fuzzyroes
07-10-2014, 08:17 AM
yeah, do you guys forget all the rambling Corgan did at the time about how it was a collective band unit and how it was more of a band than it was back in it's heyday?

slunken
07-10-2014, 09:04 AM
You sound like a casual fan.

Shallowed
07-10-2014, 09:26 AM
Any casual fans here?

juliana
07-10-2014, 09:32 AM
It isn't just corgan who said they were not a hired hand, nicole did a whole article about it in the beginning.

Maybe just maybe, he wanted them to be full members and then he found out they couldn't be nothing more than hired hands.

Funbags
07-10-2014, 09:34 AM
yeah, do you guys forget all the rambling Corgan did at the time about how it was a collective band unit and how it was more of a band than it was back in it's heyday?

He said the same thing about Zwan.

Ram27
07-10-2014, 11:36 AM
But we all know I'm full of shit

amoergosum
07-12-2014, 06:47 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p>I'm on tour with <a href="https://twitter.com/nto1927">@nto1927</a> come check us out! <a href="http://t.co/nXInPWEBIq">http://t.co/nXInPWEBIq</a></p>&mdash; Nicole Fiorentino (@xocoleyf) <a href="https://twitter.com/xocoleyf/statuses/487698061049593857">11. Juli 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rider
07-12-2014, 09:46 AM
It isn't just corgan who said they were not a hired hand, nicole did a whole article about it in the beginning.

Maybe just maybe, he wanted them to be full members and then he found out they couldn't be nothing more than hired hands.

Or its just one of the endless examples of Corgan spinning things for PR and trying to get this myth about there actually being a band and a vision going so he can sell some tickets.

Remember when it was his lifes dream to have a band with Matt Sweeney.

juliana
07-12-2014, 11:35 AM
Then you are calling nicole a liar? she was pretty serious about being not a hired hand.

Ram27
07-12-2014, 06:00 PM
Sure, that's what she thinks. That doesn't mean that her role in the band <s>is</s> was any more important

Rider
07-12-2014, 08:29 PM
Then you are calling nicole a liar? she was pretty serious about being not a hired hand.

I think people will delude themselves into thinking whatever they want and then will sell that delusion to others. Sure Nicole you are the one piece of perfection that Billy will keep around despite the fact that he gets rid of everyone.

You seem to have no grasp on human behavior or reality in general and just make up your own narrative for everything.

juliana
07-12-2014, 08:47 PM
Lol, calling the kettle black, rider? Out of all people, funny to read you write that.

reprise85
07-12-2014, 09:42 PM
im rubber youre glue whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you

naner naner naner

juliana
07-12-2014, 10:02 PM
I know you are but what am I?

Rider
07-13-2014, 04:34 AM
Lol, calling the kettle black, rider? Out of all people, funny to read you write that.

Yeah we all know I'm crazy because I typed your name plus smashing pumpkins in a search an engine and Google returned a wall of crazy.

Hey everyone look boo I'm a crazy stalker.

juliana
07-13-2014, 11:01 AM
Lol, you went on a google search of me lmao? You don't think that's the first step of stalking? Why would you care that much to do the search?

I might be as famous as monte, ya'll. I mean people who dislike me are googling me now Lol.

Shallowed
07-13-2014, 11:46 AM
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7691340032/hDBFA200B/

sppunk
07-13-2014, 12:38 PM
Lol, you went on a google search of me lmao? You don't think that's the first step of stalking? Why would you care that much to do the search?

I might be as famous as monte, ya'll. I mean people who dislike me are googling me now Lol.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

juliana
07-13-2014, 12:58 PM
Lol why are you getting upset with me? Rider keeps making this about me. I am just defending myself.

SPPUNK always has to jump in when I prove the idiocy or people constantly attacking me, it is like clockwork.

sppunk
07-13-2014, 01:22 PM
Are you 11?

You post messageboard screenshots from years ago. Yet say Googling a name is stalking.

For someone who claims to do social media work for a living, you come across as not knowing, handling or understanding the Internet well at all.

Back on subject: stop projecting yourself to start petty fights. It's old, adds no value and makes you look, well, 11.

juliana
07-13-2014, 01:35 PM
Margin

juliana
07-13-2014, 01:35 PM
Are you 11?

You post messageboard screenshots from years ago. Yet say Googling a name is stalking.

For someone who claims to do social media work for a living, you come across as not knowing, handling or understanding the Internet well at all.

Back on subject: stop projecting yourself to start petty fights. It's old, adds no value and makes you look, well, 11.

Are you projecting when YOU say this? You can't see that anytime some takes anything I say about music or the band then suddenly attacks me and makes personal statements about me is harrassment? You don't see that happening to others. They can make any statement about the band or the music and who they are as a person doesn't come into play.

Also, I am the only one who is not allowed to save funny screen shots? But netphorians have been doing it to monte for years? How hypocritical, guess that is what adults do though.

So basically, your criticism is only dependant on who you are criticising. You dislike me therefore everything I write is wrong and untrue? Who is 11? Is it the people who are crying to you? Or do you seriously just wait for me to defend myself so you can gang up on me? Is dog piling someone an adult thing to do?

I don't "do social media work for a living", my job had a social media a component based on clients needs, many jobs do these days.

Please tell me what your profession is so I can bring it up every post you make to put you down. Or maybe I should just google you... That isn't stalking right?


If you have issues with me why not pm me about it and stop ruining threads

slunken
07-13-2014, 02:14 PM
You dislike me therefore everything I write is wrong and untrue?

If you have issues with me why not pm me about it and stop ruining threads

1. That's pretty much how it works around here

2. That's a good idea

bye june
07-13-2014, 03:33 PM
Every god damn thread

ilikeplanets
07-13-2014, 04:55 PM
You don't see that happening to others. They can make any statement about the band or the music and who they are as a person doesn't come into play.





:rolleyes: forget me already?

fuzzyroes
07-14-2014, 06:17 PM
Are you projecting when YOU say this? You can't see that anytime some takes anything I say about music or the band then suddenly attacks me and makes personal statements about me is harrassment? You don't see that happening to others. They can make any statement about the band or the music and who they are as a person doesn't come into play.

Also, I am the only one who is not allowed to save funny screen shots? But netphorians have been doing it to monte for years? How hypocritical, guess that is what adults do though.

So basically, your criticism is only dependant on who you are criticising. You dislike me therefore everything I write is wrong and untrue? Who is 11? Is it the people who are crying to you? Or do you seriously just wait for me to defend myself so you can gang up on me? Is dog piling someone an adult thing to do?

I don't "do social media work for a living", my job had a social media a component based on clients needs, many jobs do these days.

Please tell me what your profession is so I can bring it up every post you make to put you down. Or maybe I should just google you... That isn't stalking right?


If you have issues with me why not pm me about it and stop ruining threads

wah wah wah. Everyone knows you always end up sharing "PMs" with people after the fact anyways (with Monte, Nicole etc), so what difference does it make?

juliana
07-14-2014, 06:47 PM
I can send you a pm of a screen shot of you sharing my pm from the oboard on netphoria.

Please stop ruining threads by making them about me.

themadcaplaughs
07-14-2014, 07:16 PM
Honest question juliana. Do you still like Smashing Pumpkins?

juliana
07-14-2014, 08:10 PM
Yes, I still listen to SP and I am one of the few on this board that liked oceania I think. I like Billy's music more than other music. I wish it was "Billy Corgan" and not smashing pumpkins currently because I am more into adore, TFE and his demos than songs I think are very SP. I am hoping the new album has really good song writing including lyrics.

scottytheoneand
07-14-2014, 08:26 PM
I liked Oceania OK

fuzzyroes
07-15-2014, 06:37 PM
I can send you a pm of a screen shot of you sharing my pm from the oboard on netphoria.

Please stop ruining threads by making them about me.

Jesus Christ, what's with you and all of your screen shots? Do you have a library archived of them? What's the point? So you can go on years later and say "that's not what you said way back when! BUSTED!"

slunken
07-15-2014, 06:39 PM
Jesus Christ, what's with you and all of your screen shots? Do you have a library archived of them? What's the point? So you can go on years later and say "that's not what you said way back when! BUSTED!"

Seems to be working

fuzzyroes
07-15-2014, 06:42 PM
problem is, no one cares

slunken
07-15-2014, 06:43 PM
You seem to. An awful lot.

fuzzyroes
07-15-2014, 06:49 PM
I couldn't care less about the content that she's saved from me and everyone or whatever.

I'm more interested in the fact she actually spends the time to archive screen shots from SP forums. As if it's some very important content or something. Seems pretty weird.

herzogxyu
07-15-2014, 06:54 PM
this is why netphoria has its rep. seriously. children. shut the fuck up.
and who is juliana?
maybe she's halfway out.
* end thread

slunken
07-15-2014, 09:07 PM
I'm more interested in the fact she actually spends the time to archive screen shots from SP forums. As if it's some very important content or something. Seems pretty weird.

you sound like a casual fan.

juliana
07-15-2014, 10:38 PM
you sound like a casual fan.

You obviously do care, based on the fact that you keep talking about it and the fact that you've posted here over 2000 times.

You seem to. An awful lot.

Seems to be working

^

DaveKShape
07-15-2014, 11:05 PM
I see that juliana has hijacked a thread again with self-aggrandizing nonsense.

So how bout that Nicole, y'all! Great rack... of bass effects.

Corgan's Bluff
07-15-2014, 11:41 PM
:rolleyes:
Another thread that could be renamed after reading the last sites:

JULIANA ONLY KINDA HALFWAY MAYBE OUT

sppunk
07-17-2014, 12:40 PM
I'm about to ban a bunch of you fucks.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 04:57 PM
Top two songs (Smithereens & Making Plans for the End) on the Microdance's Soundcloud feature Nicole on vocals - as does the whole of the upcoming album.

https://soundcloud.com/themicrodance

This is my band and I'm quite prepared for the barrage of caustic criticism - but it's Pumpkins related; so I'm posting. Obviously, I hold a faint hope that some of you will enjoy it.

I will also add that Nicole is a consummate pro, a wonderful person and an absolute pleasure to work with.

I won't be answering any questions about her though!

soniclovenoize
12-21-2014, 05:06 PM
Oh yeah oh yeah.

pumpkins
12-21-2014, 05:13 PM
That's not true.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:13 PM
Oh yeah, oh yeah; look right, get left?

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:16 PM
What's not true Pumpkins?

juliana
12-21-2014, 05:19 PM
Dude here promoting his band... Pretty much saying "Don't ask me questions about nicole but THIS BELONGS IN THE SP SECTION"

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:22 PM
I think it does; Nicole was in the Pumpkins. Hardly tenuous is it? Weird.

pumpkins
12-21-2014, 05:23 PM
Nicole is not in that band, he just wants attention.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:24 PM
You're right, she's not in the band - but she sung on the album. A quick Google may prove that!

smashingschnauz
12-21-2014, 05:26 PM
Lead singer needs a cough drop.

Ram27
12-21-2014, 05:27 PM
http://memeguy.com/photos/images/mrw-one-of-my-recruiters-tried-to-tell-me-i-was-burning-bridges-by-accepting-a-competing-offer-26448.gif

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:29 PM
Yeah, well we recorded a 71 minute album in just over two weeks - vocals done in a day; so no time for convalescence and no budget for cough drops. I'll keep that in mind for the future though - thanks.

juliana
12-21-2014, 05:30 PM
At the end of the day you are promoting yourself and you said you don't want to talk about nicole. So there is NO SP value in this post.

Forgotten Child
12-21-2014, 05:33 PM
Whatever, it sounds good.

I saw the pumpkins in 2010 and then now again and I can say I really miss Nicole! Her bvs would bring the new songs alive...

juliana
12-21-2014, 05:33 PM
Yeah, well we recorded a 71 minute album in just over two weeks - vocals done in a day; so no time for convalescence and no budget for cough drops. I'll keep that in mind for the future though - thanks.

"Good to know nicole has gone from SP to nothing but playing on random fan albums" ó WEBCS (what would billy corgan say)

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:33 PM
Weird logic.

Here's some music Nicole was involved in - no Pumpkins value.

Answer a personal question about Nicole - pumpkins value.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:36 PM
What's a 'random fan album'?

juliana
12-21-2014, 05:36 PM
I don't want to know anything personal about nicole. I know enough.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:37 PM
I'm very happy for you about that.

juliana
12-21-2014, 05:43 PM
And I am very happy for you that you are so proud to be pals with minor sp hasbeens.

The better question is why was nicole not able with her talent for bass and singing unable to get into another band at sp level? I feel the same about mike, why does he just sit around teaching drums on skype, why not get a good gig. Bearcubbin is a joke, they don't even live in the same city.

Billy Corgan wins again.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 05:52 PM
I'm quite proud of the album but I'm not proud to be friends with anyone. I think that perhaps you have a slightly different value system to me. I'm happy to be friends with her because she's a great person. But I don't need the kind of validation you speak of.

pumpkins
12-21-2014, 05:53 PM
Billy Corgan wins again.

No wonder, he's the one who wrote the hits.

pumpkins
12-21-2014, 05:58 PM
Besides, i like the songs. Just not enough to get crazy about it. Sounds good, not new.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 06:00 PM
Also, in Nicole's defence - she is a fucking great bassist and could easily get a big touring job with another band. She's focussed on doing her own thing with TC&L. Do you seriously think she couldn't 'get into another band at SP level' and if so, what is that based on?

pumpkins
12-21-2014, 06:05 PM
Greatvegetable, indeed, she is a fucking great bassist. On that I agree with you.

juliana
12-21-2014, 06:08 PM
If you weren't a dumb ass with nicole ass kissing blinders, you would see that i complimented her on her abilities and mike's and stated they shouldn't be bothering with this garbage.

Billy has made his millions, he can fiddle with cats, wrestling and tea. but for nicole, she is only as good as her last job. And don't bring up that she is focusing on c&l because that is bullshit. She is touring with some other whatever band, something something 1912.

Both her and mike need to get a grip on reality.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 06:09 PM
Oh, you listened and think it's garbage? Is that your beef with me? I'm sorry about that.

juliana
12-21-2014, 06:10 PM
Ginger and lisa both went on to do better shit.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 06:11 PM
Better shit?

juliana
12-21-2014, 06:11 PM
Oh, you listened and think it's garbage? Is that your beef with me? I'm sorry about that.

And this is all you really give a fuck about, you are just trying to use sp fans via nicole.

Anyways, I have said too much. The vultures will descend on me soon. Good luck with your music career.

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 06:13 PM
I wouldn't worry to much about the vultures descending; I should imagine that they prefer the taste of blood to acid.

juliana
12-21-2014, 06:15 PM
JulianaLSD

Greatvegetable
12-21-2014, 06:16 PM
Julia in the sky with diamonds.

soniclovenoize
12-21-2014, 06:29 PM
Oh yeah, oh yeah; look right, get left?

:love:

Ram27
12-21-2014, 07:41 PM
Just let me make this analogy. You wanna go to the circus, and to get into the circus it costs you five … pence. So, you stand in line, you don't have five pence, but you really wanna go to the circus. So someone comes along and says, "Well, I'll take you in the circus and I'll pay the five pence, but you gotta pay me back later." So, you go in the circus, they take you out. "Oh, OK, well, when you gonna pay me back?" "I don't know. I'll get around to it sooner or later." … That's the story of the band.

AveryLoren
12-21-2014, 08:25 PM
Shouldn't this be on the gen board?

SlingeroGuitaro
12-21-2014, 09:56 PM
So it's true- she doesn't stir the gravy but she licks the spoon?

killtrocity
12-21-2014, 10:24 PM
http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Oh+look+at+you+you+re+a+girl+who+plays+a+_40f03d1e 0b96be8b9f90d2b4cc43a5f9.png

scottytheoneand
12-21-2014, 11:49 PM
last time I talked to Nicole she was very professional and thankful for her fans. Of all the former band members to bash she seems like a bad choice. she's never said a single negative thing about SP and she did her job like a pro.

Ram27
12-22-2014, 12:00 AM
Yeah she's pretty okay

I don't know why everyone's making such a big deal about her

Butt Pope
12-22-2014, 12:19 AM
Mike and Nicole should start a band.

scottytheoneand
12-22-2014, 12:50 AM
fuck off you cunt, butt pope

juliana
12-22-2014, 07:43 AM
I wonder when Billy is going to drop the bomb on nicole on nexus. I mean when he fired her, he was soon after was crying about missing d'arcy to monte in that 2 hour interview. It reminds me of the aftermath of zwan for some reason.

Butt Pope
12-22-2014, 08:30 AM
fuck off you cunt, butt pope

:blush:

slunken
12-22-2014, 11:54 AM
I wonder when Billy is going to drop the bomb on nicole on nexus. I mean when he fired her, he was soon after was crying about missing d'arcy to monte in that 2 hour interview. It reminds me of the aftermath of zwan for some reason.

Did I miss that interview ? I must have. Link?

topleybird
12-22-2014, 01:02 PM
And this is all you really give a fuck about, you are just trying to use sp fans via nicole.

May I self-deprecatingly suggest that if Greatvegetable is posting to Netphoria's dozens of readers as a genuine marketing vector then they may be better off going out to any lightly populated street and just shouting the URL to their music

It may be that Greatvegetable thought we might be interested in this legitimately, if tenuously, SP-related music, in which case their greatest crime here is not realizing what a bunch of joyless Grinches we've become about literally everything

Greatvegetable
12-22-2014, 01:18 PM
Spot on Topleybird. I hardly thought an internet forum populated by people whose primary source of joy is denigration (seemingly) would be an ideal place to promote my music; especially since no one here really seems to like music of this ilk anyway/any more.

juliana
12-22-2014, 01:30 PM
Did I miss that interview ? I must have. Link?

It starts here, the interview has five parts http://www.crestfallen.com/2013/08/26/billy-corgan-talks-to-crestfallen-com-about-producing-sierra-swan-new-album/

Slurpee
12-22-2014, 01:47 PM
It may be that Greatvegetable thought we might be interested in this legitimately, if tenuously, SP-related music, in which case their greatest crime here is not realizing what a bunch of joyless Grinches we've become about literally everything

This should be stickied to the top of the SP forum. :banging::banging::banging:

topleybird
12-22-2014, 02:23 PM
I hardly thought an internet forum populated by people whose primary source of joy is denigration (seemingly)

For me it's neck and neck with a good Wendy's Frosty but I can't speak for everyone

juliana
12-22-2014, 02:58 PM
What I find gross about sp right now is the fans that they run around claiming to be pals with band members, but they don't tell you how much they pay for that. They say they are "showing support" for their friends". But they are actually behind the scenes being asked to make websites and do a lot of free work to get even the smallest of privilages to brag about.

Billy recently started doing it too. Manipulating the most obsessed fans who are going broke. But dispite their mtae and tea hording, billy continues to hate his fans in the press and there are a ton of cult followers sad and depressed that they aren't enough for billy.

So when I see these types of posts, I am very sceptical of their motives.

Greatvegetable
12-22-2014, 03:11 PM
Let me stop you right there Juliana. You couldn't be more off-base if you tried. For starters, Nicole is a wonderful person who committed herself way beyond what was originally talked about. Secondly, her and I are good friends; I am not a starfucker and don't seek validation through attachment to other people. Thirdly, my band has PR support, distribution and a record deal that will be far more beneficial in terms of exposure than having Nicole sing on the record.

The music industry is fucked enough as it is without ignorant, bitter cynics trying to debunk the efforts of hard-working integrous bands.

If you don't like the music, that's totally cool with me; but this is frankly ridicuolous.

Araneae
12-22-2014, 03:15 PM
I really don't think Nicole's involvement is a way of manipulating people. Let's be realistic, SP is so far off most people's radar that I don't think people even know who has been in the band over the past 10 years.

Forgotten Child
12-22-2014, 03:17 PM
All this because Billy blocked Juliana on Twitter.

amoergosum
06-05-2015, 12:54 PM
I just read that Nicole got married to Meghan Toohey in 2012.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My wife <a href="https://twitter.com/meghantoohey">@meghantoohey</a> wrote the end credits song for this <a href="https://twitter.com/cannes">@cannes</a> film <a href="https://twitter.com/paymonmovie">@paymonmovie</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/lastshift?src=hash">#lastshift</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cannes?src=hash">#cannes</a> check it out! <a href="https://t.co/B3nX2qO36V">https://t.co/B3nX2qO36V</a></p>&mdash; Nicole Fiorentino (@xocoleyf) <a href="https://twitter.com/xocoleyf/status/598930679812923393">14. Mai 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

scottytheoneand
06-05-2015, 02:34 PM
welcome to 2012!

Funbags
06-05-2015, 08:47 PM
Oh, I didn't know they were married.