Some really tight, 90's Canadian Alt-Rock. Check it out if you've never heard of em. Was just listening to this CD for the first time in ages tonight. Good shit.

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Ok that's it you're just the worst.

Yeah, I can already tell this band sucks without even listening

i love how fuzzy is trying to be an archivist but still obviously avoiding anything "hipsters" like

hey yeah i like obscure bands man, i like obscure bands that even the obscurists don't like man

(I mean seriously what the fuck is this)

The first step on the path to hipsterdom is to denounce hipsters and all that they like.

I don't think I've ever come across a band that was tagged as grunge and industrial. They might be the first.

they were pretty well known in Canada in the late 90's. Like they charted and had platinum records. I wouldn't call them obscure here. But i would call them another fine example why canada sucks at music.

No actually I have. But it is rare.

they were pretty well known in Canada in the late 90's. Like they charted and had platinum records. I wouldn't call them obscure here. But i would call them another fine example why canada sucks at music.

i see

i love how fuzzy is trying to be an archivist but still obviously avoiding anything "hipsters" like

hey yeah i like obscure bands man, i like obscure bands that even the obscurists don't like man

(I mean seriously what the fuck is this)

No man. I just think most of the so called "hipster bands" that I've listened to have sucked ass. I mean, I guess i like a few bands that are big amongst the hipster crowds: Pavement, the first 2 Mgmt records, Tokyo Police club ETC.

For the most part a lot of these bands seem to be style over substance, in much the same way that the whole glam-metal trend was. I mean, you look at some of the most successful "hipster" bands and they're all shit. You got bands like: Foster the people, Mumford and sons, Vampire Weekend, The National, Imagine dragons all of that shit just bores me to absolute tears. No substance, no originality, I can't understand the whole craze. It seems to be just all about the image and aesthetics of it all.

they were pretty well known in Canada in the late 90's. Like they charted and had platinum records. I wouldn't call them obscure here. But i would call them another fine example why canada sucks at music.

The Devil you know is a damn good album. Their first one was great too. Granted, I will admit that the 3rd one sucked ass though and of course the lead singers taking the Bolly route and making his own shit music with hired hands now so that doesn't count.

I don't think I've ever come across a band that was tagged as grunge and industrial. They might be the first.

What'd you think dude? You enjoy these songs?

No man. I just think most of the so called "hipster bands" that I've listened to have sucked ass. I mean, I guess i like a few bands that are big amongst the hipster crowds: Pavement, the first 2 Mgmt records, Tokyo Police club ETC.

For the most part a lot of these bands seem to be style over substance, in much the same way that the whole glam-metal trend was. I mean, you look at some of the most successful "hipster" bands and they're all shit. You got bands like: Foster the people, Mumford and sons, Vampire Weekend, The National, Imagine dragons all of that shit just bores me to absolute tears. No substance, no originality, I can't understand the whole craze. It seems to be just all about the image and aesthetics of it all.

You kinda pick horrible examples though .

Also i fail to see how Econoline fucking Crush has any more substance than those bands. Anyway by your definition it seems any band having success now and that is not 100% pop is a "hipster" band.

MGMT LoL that's a band "hipsters" make fun of

who the fuck is tokyo police club

get your head out of your ass and judge the music for the music, you bring all this other garbage to the table

for example you just named a whole list of bands i really dislike, the national is boring, vampire weekend is dogshit, foster the people is a pathetic Arcade Fire clone, Imagine fucking Dragons is a mainstream major label band and Mumford & Sons is massively huge and profoundly loathed by the indie music crowd.

you still haven't mentioned any of the alt rock/shoegaze revival acts that i like but if i post a deerhunter song you'll just respond "bro that song is fucking terrible" like you do with everything because you have confirmation bias

ultimately you need to realize that the indie "scene" is not a genre, or an aestetic. it means these bands are obscure and are on small labels and ultimately cater to a niche. A lot of times they are doing wild and interesting stuff that the mainstream can't fucking handle (SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSS) . The bands you listed can be categorized in several genres, but you act like they're one and the same. Find your niche and fuck the shit out of it, and you can do better than moldy canadian alt rock. I managed to and I'm not doubling down on Vampire Weekend.

I honestly don't understand how a dude like you <i>doesn't</I> like Japandroids except for some kind of confirmation bias about the Hipster Menace. They are hard drinkin hard partying boys from Vancouver. That's it, there's no pretension to anything they do. They are good time, fun time, fuzz rock coming straight out of the 90s.

miami heat by 4

MGMT LoL that's a band "hipsters" make fun of


Lol really? I know a bunch of "hipsters" who used to really like em.


who the fuck is tokyo police club

Pretty big band out here in Canada. They're pretty rad, big amongst the trendy kids

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get your head out of your ass and judge the music for the music, you bring all this other garbage to the table

for example you just named a whole list of bands i really dislike, the national is boring, vampire weekend is dogshit, foster the people is a pathetic Arcade Fire clone, Imagine fucking Dragons is a mainstream major label band and Mumford & Sons is massively huge and profoundly loathed by the indie music crowd.

you still haven't mentioned any of the alt rock/shoegaze revival acts that i like but if i post a deerhunter song you'll just respond "bro that song is fucking terrible" like you do with everything because you have confirmation bias

Well at least we can agree there. Those bands are really popular with who the culture would classify as "hipsters". They're some of the most popular bands that have broke through and they're all fucking terrible. Definitely style and aesthetics over substance.

I haven't really heard any alt rock/shoegaze revival hipster bands or anything though. I've heard a couple tracks from deerhunter, they weren't bad, but they didn't really make me wanna check out more of their stuff either.


ultimately you need to realize that the indie "scene" is not a genre, or an aestetic. it means these bands are obscure and are on small labels and ultimately cater to a niche.

Believe me man, I get that. I support as much good indie music as I can. I guess to me, it just seems like the term "hipster" is a blanket term that's used for a lot of shit bands (like the ones I suggested) that I end up not liking. I don't think hipster music has one concrete sound. For example, most of that shitty math-rock stuff is also hipster garbage.

I honestly don't understand how a dude like you doesn't like Japandroids except for some kind of confirmation bias about the Hipster Menace. They are hard drinkin hard partying boys from Vancouver. That's it, there's no pretension to anything they do. They are good time, fun time, fuzz rock coming straight out of the 90s.

I love the Japandroids man. Haven't checked out their debut album yet, but celebration rock is a damn good listen.

You kinda pick horrible examples though .

Also i fail to see how Econoline fucking Crush has any more substance than those bands. Anyway by your definition it seems any band having success now and that is not 100% pop is a "hipster" band.

What the fuck is "hipster" music then if those examples are horrible? Those bands are the biggest, most successful bands out there that all of the trendy, hipster wankers like.

Most of the hipster shit that I've heard sounds like one big conglomeration of Vampire weekend, foster the people, or cheap Arcade Fire knockoffs(give or take a little). That's the kind of shit that I consider to be hipster music. The kind of music that attracts trendy assholes who don't really know anything about or have a genuine love for music.

Jimmy Kimmel did a great piece on exposing the general intelligence of most hipster goofs

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are you still into gasslight anthhem fuzzy

What the fuck is "hipster" music then if those examples are horrible? Those bands are the biggest, most successful bands out there that all of the trendy, hipster wankers like.

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Jimmy Kimmel did a great piece on exposing the general intelligence of most hipster goofs

i mean he does this shit all the time with any kind of thing, basketball players, soccer teams, you name it. For one thing it's not a scientific survey it's a bit on a comedy show and two lots of people do this all the time they don't have to be "hipsters"

your obsession is weird and kind of lame

People use the word hipster when they feel threatened by someone else's music knowledge.

If there are all these bands that they don't know about, maybe their musical tastes are actually pretty bland.

you're practically the definition of the guy they hate

"OKAY GUYS I GOT THIS LIST OF POST PUNK BANDS LET ME NAME THEM AND YOU TELL ME THAT I'M SO COOL AND EDGY. OKAY, HERE WE GO: GANG OF FOUR. THE FALL. TALKING HEADS..."

I actually didn't realize it was cool to like post-punk until I got on this forum.

i mean he does this shit all the time with any kind of thing, basketball players, soccer teams, you name it. For one thing it's not a scientific survey it's a bit on a comedy show and two lots of people do this all the time they don't have to be "hipsters"

your obsession is weird and kind of lame

You're the guy always bringing it up in many threads that I've made. I'm not even really sure what justifies as "hipster music" aside from the obvious offenders. I'm a 28 year old man for crying out loud, I can't keep up with all of the trends anymore

I mean, I always hear about hipsters gushing about Lana Del Ray, so I checked her out and while she has an alright voice, the music is entirely unimpressive. I can't pretend that I'm "hip to the scene" but none of these artists that people have tried to turn me onto do anything for me.

WHO CAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Not me, so stop bringing it up every time that I'm sharing music with people.

Jeeze. It always comes back down to the hipster talk as far as Trotsky is concerned.

YOU BROUGHT IT UP

I TOLD YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

HEAT BY 4

People use the word hipster when they feel threatened by someone else's music knowledge.

Hipster can mean whatever you want it to mean.

fuzzy rose is using it here to put all of the music that he doesn't like in one neat pile. That being almost everything that was released after 2000, aside from the stuff that sounds like music before 2000. Especially if it features Mike Byrne.

lol well that's only natural isn't it? My biggest interest is in guitar driven music, and there hasn't really been a lot of standout, fresh guitar driven bands in the 2000's. Obviously theres some, but that type of music seemed to die out once the new millennium rolled around.

I mean, nowadays most of the "famous" bands are all weak and playing little jingles on their mandolins. Obviously you have to go the indie route to find guitar driven music, and I search high and low and theres not a lot of real "special" stuff out there anymore.

special to you is coated with a thick layer of nostalgia

can con garbage like econoline crush, our lady peace, the tea party were punishment for being born and raised in canada in our generation. the worst.

canadian bands these days seem not to be nearly as shitty and uninspired?

they probably are. back in the 90s we just kind of had more exposure to more of the crap (zomg rember when muchmuzik actually palyed MUZIKVIDEOZ?~!)

can con garbage like econoline crush, our lady peace, the tea party were punishment for being born and raised in canada in our generation. the worst.

moist

My biggest interest is in guitar driven music

Oh yes, not to mention

I've only noticed the word "hipster" been used starting around 2008 or 2009, but if Kid A is your favourite Radiohead album then you're probably a hipster.

People in my normal life call me a hipster. Because I like Rock but I don't for the most part like classic rock. And when I do talk about classic rock my opinions are always the unpopular ones.
But it's really just that I prefer pop, weirdness, and brains over cock rock Bluesy stuff.

But I totally embrace the hipster thing and think the whole anti-fashion thing is cool.

moist

Moist was bloody terrible. Push and Silver off their first album were decent enough tracks though. Everything after that was complete and utter dog shit. Haven't heard em in ages, so I'm sure they've probably aged terribly though.

But I totally embrace the hipster thing and think the whole anti-fashion thing is cool.

The anti-fashion thing is retarded because it ends up becoming a fashion trend in and of itself

can con garbage like econoline crush, our lady peace, the tea party were punishment for being born and raised in canada in our generation. the worst.

Man there was a lot of cool can-con stuff in the 90's.

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Some other gems from the mid 90's that are MUST listens for all you non Canucks out there:

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The anti-fashion thing is retarded because it ends up becoming a fashion trend in and of itself

how anti-fashion of you

how anti-fashion of you

we've already established that fuzzy is still wearing backwards hats and chain wallets

japandroids
fucked up
no joy (even though the mtl posters are so negative about them)
even arcade fire for the most part

i'm sure there are others, isn't pains of being pure at heart a canadian band?

Watchmen are horrible... about as bad as wide mouth mason.

One of the best late 80's canadian bands is grapes of wrath.

Watchmen suck ass, but the song I posted is one that's damn good:smoke:

No, I would say there is more. Worst canadian band ever is Monster Truck. God awful.

fuck, that shit's terrible. I saw them at an outdoor gig in the summer with the new Alice in Chains and I mother earth... Just fucking terrible. It's like the ultimate Nickleback/butt rock band. The band name really says it all: Monster truck.

oh yeah you guys brought us nickelback jesus the fuck is wrong with you canada

Everything.

That's I mean when I say a handful of good to decent bands don't make up for the vast amount of shit Canada has been putting out for YEARS. It just doesn't. Even the best of Canada can't usually compete with the best of the UK or the US.

can con garbage like econoline crush, our lady peace, the tea party were punishment for being born and raised in canada in our generation. the worst.

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apparently much music put out seventeen of these? i only every had the first one.


i used to fucking love this tea party song when i was like thirteen, though:

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What the fuck is "hipster" music then if those examples are horrible? Those bands are the biggest, most successful bands out there that all of the trendy, hipster wankers like.

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:dammit:

i know it's infuriating he must be a troll

econoline crush played a festival which was my first concert going experience.

edgefest 1998 - ottawa, ontario

Econonline Crush
Foo Fighters
Green Day
Moist
Sloan
The Tea Party
Creed
Matthew Good Band
The Inbreds
The Killjoys
Sandbox
The Watchmen
Holly McNarland
Bif Naked

billy joe armstrong stripped down to a thong, causing me to question my sexuality. luckily, after green day played i touched my first boob...a lady was body surfing face down and its all i could grab to keep her up. that got things sorted out in a hurry. hooked on concerts and boobs ever since.

#rapeculture jesus fuck that needed a #triggerwarning

the lineup or mooney's grope

#rapeculture jesus fuck that needed a #triggerwarning

i was fourteen! not that that matters. but it wasn't rape-y, i swear. a body pretty much landed on my head from behind and i put my hands up to lift it up and one of them touched boob. if i took the time to make sure i didn't touch boob, she very well could have fell on her head and died.

what the fuck is a #triggerwarning?

it means you're gross

although, my benign intentions are moot. if you saw what she was wearing you'd know she was clearly asking for it.

raped my first girl and all i got was this lousy nimrod t-shirt.

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i really shouldn't be joking about this. to be clear, i don't condone the accidental unsolicited touching of body parts under any circumstances ever.

Crowdsurfing seems pretty cool and fun until it actuall happens. Then it's just like... god damn it, set the fuck off of me, get your limbs out of my face and let me enjoy this concert in peace, you self-important bone head.

But when it's not happening I kind of wish that someone would do a stage dive or something.

econoline crush played a festival which was my first concert going experience.

edgefest 1998 - ottawa, ontario

Econonline Crush
Foo Fighters
Green Day
Moist
Sloan
The Tea Party
Creed
Matthew Good Band
The Inbreds
The Killjoys
Sandbox
The Watchmen
Holly McNarland
Bif Naked

billy joe armstrong stripped down to a thong, causing me to question my sexuality. luckily, after green day played i touched my first boob...a lady was body surfing face down and its all i could grab to keep her up. that got things sorted out in a hurry. hooked on concerts and boobs ever since.

Haha I went to Edgefest 98 too, but the one that was in Vancouver. Was my 2nd ever show (No Doubt w/ Weezer was the first). The Line Up was slightly different though, We never got Moist lol. That was a damn good show. Green Day absolutely killed it. They were actually filming the show for an HBO special. It's cool cause most of the footage is up on youtube. Always brings back good memories.

The edgefest in 99 was cool too: Silverchair and Hole:smoke:

I miss those kind of outdoor festivals. We never get anything like that out in BC anymore. It's bunk.

I actually came across my edgefest 98 program not too long ago. It reminded me that I met the Killjoys and got their autograph lol

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Heres the Billie Joe thong moment that you were talking about from the Van show:

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I miss those kind of outdoor festivals. We never get anything like that out in BC anymore. It's bunk.

i mean there must be something. there's far more outdoor festivals these days than there were then. there's sasquatch outside seattle, for example.

here you go you fuckin ding dong

http://squamishfestival.com/p/info-general

http://bumbershoot.org/

this one is in gasp seattle

but whatever, all of these festivals are dogshit compared to the motherfucking king

http://funfunfunfest.com/

I remember going to se Zwan and aside from it being the worst live show experience of my life (not because of the band, although they did suck as far as im concerned, but because I could have died) we were so fucking crushed and packed against each other my hands were pretty much forced against the ass of the girl in front of me, sure I had my palms facing me but she did turn around. Probably the look of fear in my face told her I wasn't trying anything.

here you go you fuckin ding dong

http://squamishfestival.com/p/info-general

Yeah I know, but it's about 2 hours away from where I'm at and it's in the middle of nowhere. Tickets are also a fortune and I'd likely have to bus it or find a ride and pay for accommodations. That line-up doesn't really do anything for me either.

I wanna go to Pemberton fest though. But it's also in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere and is even farther out than Squamish... And it's 3 days long and also costs a fortune. Line-ups SICK THOUGH:

Soundgarden
Dinosaur Jr
Nine Inch Nails
OutKast
Cage the Elephant
Modest Mouse
Matt Good
Fucked up

They have comedians like Tom Green and the Trailer park Boys too. it's in 3 weeks though. I think I'm sadly gonna miss out. Logistics just aint working out for me with it.
Cage the Elephant

weren't you the guy who bagged on me for liking fucked up because it was a pitchfork band

by the way i'm pretty sure "paying for accommodations" at these things unless they are in a metro area is "camping"

and i'd like to know what you consider a fortune.

Fun Fun Fun Fest is $195 at this point but it's pretty much worth it. i also like that it's in my home and there's no camping

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right in front of the skyline

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Overrated hipster band

Fun Fun Fun Fest is $195 at this point but it's pretty much worth it. i also like that it's in my home and there's no camping

you should check out METZ at FFFF. you like noisy guitars, right? i'll share some photos to try and inspire myself to get back out and take more.. it's been over a year. :(

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yeah i've been listening to metz a bit

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Overrated hipster band

you mean the band that had a popular radio hit and is signed to atlantic

?

HIPSTER BAND


(just to make it clear I was being fuzzyroes ya know.......................... though I do think they are overrated but name me a band I dont' think that about....but don't mind me this is the kind of post I said I wouldn't post anymore...well except if theyre really actually obviously shit bands by anyone's standards I might)

God damn, the jumping cut up shots in that video reminded me of a bad experience I had getting high once.

Great song though.

I do think they are overrated but name me a band I dont' think that about....

right, after listening to you for a while logically i have to ask what kind of rating all these bands should get

i mean as far as i'm concerned TJM is rated "a fun shoegaze band"

what is offensive to you about that

im sorry I made this post. This si the kind of shit I told myself I wouldn't do anymore. I shouldn't even be posting in here.

by the way i'm pretty sure "paying for accommodations" at these things unless they are in a metro area is "camping"

and i'd like to know what you consider a fortune.

Fun Fun Fun Fest is $195 at this point but it's pretty much worth it. i also like that it's in my home and there's no camping

I believe Pembertons 400 dollars for the 3 days if you wanna camp there. It's not too bad, but then you gotta factor in about 50 dollars for a bus ticket because its out in butt-fuck nowhere and all of the overpriced food and all of that shit and it adds up in a hurry... Then you consider the fact that if you wanna drink you're likely going to have to pay insane prices at the beer gardens. Still worth it because it's bound to be a helluva experience, but then you have to factor in getting time off work and all of that shit and it just becomes a hassle.

The cool thing about the all day fests like the Old Edgefest was that it was right in the heart of the city and it was only like 40 bucks a ticket. Much more convenient and easy to attend

weren't you the guy who bagged on me for liking fucked up because it was a pitchfork band

Not a fan myself, included them in the list cause I know that you're all about them :rockon: haha

HIPSTER BAND


(just to make it clear I was being fuzzyroes ya know.......................... though I do think they are overrated but name me a band I dont' think that about....but don't mind me this is the kind of post I said I wouldn't post anymore...well except if theyre really actually obviously shit bands by anyone's standards I might)

Hey, come on now:p.

I kinda agree with you though. I thought that the Big Roar was a great listen but I was pretty disappointed with their follow up. I spun it a few times, gave it a chance to simmer and went back to it a few different times and it did nothing at all for me. Haven't listened to it since.

Actually, I still have Silent Treatment on my I-pod. Standout track in my opinion

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