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MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 09:51 AM
last night order66 was in california, why california i don't know
but apparently he went on a shooting rampage that left seven dead including himself, although it is not currently known if the killshot was self-inflicted or delivered by police

anyway here is order66's taped confession/manifesto

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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh254dAH1zbFAeadGv

chilling stuff, but i will remember you and the good times we had forever anyway brother

D.
05-24-2014, 09:54 AM
Rip order #66

Order 66
05-24-2014, 10:02 AM
i had a good run

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 10:03 AM
i can't stop watching this
it's bad parody dipshit college art project but he really meant all of it and really went through with his killing spree
we probably should get rid of youtube
it was bad enough when people went out in mass killings and expected to become posthumous media stars on just television
isn't it way sadder that people want to go out in a blaze of glory and then "go viral'

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 10:07 AM
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MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 10:15 AM
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very cool

D.
05-24-2014, 10:30 AM
very rare

Order 66
05-24-2014, 10:41 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jHVHAys.png

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 10:52 AM
Craigslist is full of guys like this.

Sex is not owed to you you fucks. He kept mentioning love and affection but really all he got back to was sex.

See as someone who was utterly unsuccessful at getting even a date for much longer than most people are, i never made the mistake of thinking it was the girls problems. I knew i was a bit of a creepy fuck with social issues. More guys need to be self-aware. Not to mention these types of guys always tend to go for girls they'd never have a chance with. Like uh i'm a socially awkward nerd but i really want to go out with hot miss popularity who goes out with the douchebags. Yeah good luck with that moron.

This is a real epidemic in young men though that kind of stuff. Well i mean not necessarily spree killing but this kind of resentful misogyny which is always a result of their own social awkardness/ borderline psychopathy. I recommend compulsory castration of all virgin men 25 over. That'll fix a lot of problems right there. Not but seriously it's a problem nicely summarized in Michael Kimmel's Guyland. Young men of today and how they relate to women...or rather don't. Other than sexually. Scary shit.

hnibos
05-24-2014, 10:52 AM
Now all the libtards are going to create sex therapy houses where loser guys like him get to have sex.

Order 66
05-24-2014, 10:55 AM
well.. that would make my life a lot better

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 10:55 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jHVHAys.png

I just saw this. See this is exactly what i mean.


And completely unaware that the problem is HIM. He drives a BMW! holy shit girls should be falling at his feet. Just fucking sad. he should kill hims....oh wait. Fuck.

What part of "i drive a bmw" did girls not get? I guess todays girls are really as dumb as bricks.

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 11:09 AM
I hope it isn't lost on anyone else that out of everyone who posts here The exploding boy talks the most like this kid and is probably the most likely to one day kill a bunch of people

hnibos
05-24-2014, 11:10 AM
None of this would have happened if he were gay. #notoprop8

D.
05-24-2014, 11:18 AM
The inevitable conclusion of a society that reinforces the idea that men deserve women because they are men. Fuck this mra piece of shit. And fuck exploding boy .

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 11:23 AM
exploding boy would have sex with so many dudes if he had been born a girl
perhaps he could have prevented this all

sppunk
05-24-2014, 11:24 AM
Gee I wonder why girls ignored him.

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 11:31 AM
I hope it isn't lost on anyone else that out of everyone who posts here The exploding boy talks the most like this kid and is probably the most likely to one day kill a bunch of people

Most people i ever want to see dead usually end up killing themselves or find ways to precipitate their deaths on their own. And i have no ill will towards the female gender as a whole. You just chose to see it this way.


I gonna assume D has me on ignore because he pretty much just said what i said.

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 11:33 AM
exploding boy would have sex with so many dudes if he had been born a girl
perhaps he could have prevented this all

Even i would have had better judgement.

scottytheoneand
05-24-2014, 12:10 PM
rest in piss order 66

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 12:10 PM
Most people i ever want to see dead usually end up killing themselves or find ways to precipitate their deaths on their own. And i have no ill will towards the female gender as a whole. You just chose to see it this way.


I gonna assume D has me on ignore because he pretty much just said what i said.



no i think you have ill will towards humanity in general
you come off as really angry and insensitive and you hide it all behind irony like "hey it was a joke don't be so serious/political correctness has gone mad" as though that changes the fact that your first instinct was still to say something about diseased cunts and spics being rats and who should be killed and forcibly castrated
i just don't get it

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 12:27 PM
Oh. I see.

I suppose it makes more sense. I don't really give that much of a shit either way but i'm not that cool with being associated with someone like this and the implication that i'm probably just some borderline psycho who's gonna flip out anytime and kill everyone. but i suppose that's how i advertise myself? Yes i am misanthropic but i don't intend to ever physically hurt anyone.

The rat thing was just, i figured i'd inadvertently set a foot on that bridge, i might as well jump it and go all the way down. I have slight trolling tendencies it's true. I don't really get it myself. I like people to wonder if i mean it. And sometimes i want people to get pissed off, i want to push those easy buttons. And then i get to make myself feel superior like they're all stuck up bourgeois or something for getting offended. It is fairly stupid and childish i suppose. This forum really brings it out of me too. I'll try to get better.

I say that but i know i'll do it again.

Eulogy
05-24-2014, 12:33 PM
Guys the exploding boy has said some dumb things but I don't think it's appropriate to compare him to this guy. I mean come on.

This is the logical next step from nice guys of okcupid. Something needs to be done about these people. They are everywhere.

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 12:39 PM
This is the logical next step from nice guys of okcupid. Something needs to be done about these people. They are everywhere.


YES


"I'm a nice guy". Tell you what...nice guys don't feel the need to tell you. Everytime a guy says they're a nice guy you should assume asshole. Or creep if nothing else.

Order 66
05-24-2014, 12:42 PM
FOR REAL?

bignothing
05-24-2014, 02:35 PM
After a friend showed me this disgusting thread (http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-3601.html), I will always assume okcupid guys to be creeps.

Order 66
05-24-2014, 02:41 PM
i'm a chill, laid back guy who loves to travel. i take one day at a time

wHATcOLOR
05-24-2014, 02:52 PM
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holy shit!!!

this would be hiliarious if it were something we randomly stumbled upon on youtube, a misguided, self-absorbed, melodramatic, self-pitying weiner - but now.. shit. dark / creepy


the things he's saying are not all that different than a lot of what's been said here during peoples' teenage years. do we need to be on the lookout? redbull- he doing ok? catherine wheel? who else should be be checking in on?

hnibos
05-24-2014, 02:54 PM
That one guy who has yet to touch a girls butt but hopes to one day.

wHATcOLOR
05-24-2014, 02:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBvaVWdJRQM

holy shit

what a misguided narcissist

"these sunglasses here were $300! see? look at how fabulous i look!"

wHATcOLOR
05-24-2014, 02:58 PM
That one guy who has yet to touch a girls butt but hopes to one day.



yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fuck -- CherubDayDream -- guys -- what should we do?


good call, hockey night in boston

wHATcOLOR
05-24-2014, 03:08 PM
these videos on his channel are blowing my mind
what a trainwreck

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 03:39 PM
he's got so many videos with 80s music in his car
like grooving to whitney houston and phil collins
he obviously thought he was patrick bateman

Order 66
05-24-2014, 03:46 PM
i keep thinking this is viral marketing. like how some posters here you're like "no way this persons real..?"

but then i remember people actually died..

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 03:53 PM
maybe it's a false flag
omega concern can straighten this out for us

wHATcOLOR
05-24-2014, 04:02 PM
someone should create one of those word maps that accentuate the words he uses most frequently

beautiful
spectacular
girls
marvelous
fabulous
truly
unfair
no
pleasure
lonely
deserve
girlfriends
inferior
understand
injustice
bmw
attractive
alone
like

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 04:59 PM
he's got so many videos with 80s music in his car
like grooving to whitney houston and phil collins
he obviously thought he was patrick bateman

This is really supporting what I always thought about people who enjoy Phil Collins....

his dad has produced Hunger Games and directed a Hugh Jackman film. No doubt his dad is a successful person at life, maybe he should have spent more time with his son... I mean I don't have the details but you know.... It seems like it would be hard for someone to turn out so wrong without a shitty home life.

His videos remind me a bit of Luka Magnotta, the creepy tone, put on mannerisms, narcissistic shit. But Magnotta was inventing himself a life he didn't have. Whereas he just keeps complaining about his.

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 05:04 PM
Ok apparently he was diagnosed with Asperger's as a kid. he was also in treatment with mental health professionals. So much for that.

Starla
05-24-2014, 05:11 PM
someone delete my other thread.... I didn't know this one had this guy in it.

Starla
05-24-2014, 05:21 PM
I think I'll just stay home tonight and watch this guys videos.

Starla
05-24-2014, 05:23 PM
I'm upset that he listens to phil collins. I listen to phil collins. Damn...

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 07:18 PM
No. to be fair I didn't know he had aspergers when I wrote this OR that he was being seen by mental health professionals. It seems like a case where nothing was gonna be good enough to keep this from happening.

I know psychopaths happen in the best families too but I WILL generally throw random blame on parents when shit like this happen until they can prove to have been blameless. And seriously though it's not exactly uncommon for people in showbiz to be shitty parents or spend little time with their kids. I mean the kid had a BMW for fuck sake. sounds to me a little like parents overcompensating. Maybe he needed to be told a nice car wasn't gonna get him love.

scottytheoneand
05-24-2014, 07:21 PM
Please stop posting

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 07:22 PM
<img src="http://i62.tinypic.com/15cer1v.png">

how is it possible for a human being, planning on doing a mass murder, and writing his grand manifesto mission statement, to think "i was 16 and masturbated to the idea of sex with a hot blonde" is something special and unique to him and must absolutely be shared so the world can understand his torment

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 07:25 PM
between this and the ford brothers saying autistic kids shouldn't be allowed outside i'm probably going to have to refrain from reading any comments for a few weeks so i don't have a breakdown

i mean i already did read a few comments about autism being a mental illness that leads to violence and he needed better care

but maybe in some way if people think i'm a dangerous potential mass murderer it's a step up from being told my disability doesn't exist

Bread Regal
05-24-2014, 07:29 PM
well

i mean im not exactly in a position to diagnose him, but this guy clearly has narcisstic personality disorder.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Subtypes
<i>
"Compensatory narcissist:

Seeks to counteract or cancel out deep feelings of inferiority and lack of self-esteem; offsets deficits by creating illusions of being superior, exceptional, admirable, noteworthy; self-worth results from self-enhancement."</i>

Elphenor
05-24-2014, 07:33 PM
The suicide I kind of understand. But murdering people because you have no game?

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 07:40 PM
Please stop posting

The more people say shit like this the less I want to.

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 07:43 PM
this guy, all the times he mentioned a hot girl, he's mentioned they were blonde.

Also, I have to say if he led everyone around him to believe he had no interest in sex or girls (especially his therapists and parents), I can see why they didn't think anything much was going on.

Elphenor
05-24-2014, 07:53 PM
It's called: Getting a hobbey

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 07:54 PM
He had one. Filming himself talking about how he had no gf and all women sucked as a result and that life was unfair.

D.
05-24-2014, 08:27 PM
I'm upset that he listens to phil collins. I listen to phil collins. Damn...

Phil is to this guy what KMFDM was to the Columbine kids.

MusicMan4
05-24-2014, 08:35 PM
I'm in a mood because of this
I feel all depressed more than usual and I can't move on with my day even though my day consists of doing nothing while being completely alone
Gonna take an ambien and knock myself out for hopefully 12 hours

Trotskilicious
05-24-2014, 08:42 PM
I hope it isn't lost on anyone else that out of everyone who posts here The exploding boy talks the most like this kid and is probably the most likely to one day kill a bunch of people

oh i must be in the running

but see with my shit everyone will be like "well he mass murdered a bunch of banking ceos, but he had a point"

Trotskilicious
05-24-2014, 08:43 PM
REVOLUCION

The exploding boy
05-24-2014, 08:58 PM
You're jealous aren't you. I'm perceived as even more close to the edge than you are. Until I shown up you were the number 1 psycho here, but now it's me. ME! I am condemned to best you at everything, even insanity.

But we should forget our differences and go on a spree together. I mean when we're both shooting our glocks into the midst of an unsuspecting living crowd our disagreements will suddenly seem very silly. Bonds would be forged for life. Well I mean for the few minutes left until we blow our brains out.

Ok I did just say that on an online forum. FBI, i'm joking. I don't have a gun, I don't want to shoot anyone. Please don't send the RCMP to my house. (yeah cause i mean it's not like the RCMP is monitoring anything, they don't have the money)

Starla
05-24-2014, 09:00 PM
Reading through the manifesto right now.... if only the cops had searched his room, this may not have happened. I'm wondering why they didn't. Isn't that pretty much standard with all of the shootings that have been taking place?

Trotskilicious
05-24-2014, 09:00 PM
The more people say shit like this the less I want to.

yeah scotty can identify with that

Trotskilicious
05-24-2014, 09:02 PM
"these sunglasses here were $300! see? look at how fabulous i look!"

katy lied had a thread about gucci sunglasses

yo soy el mejor
05-24-2014, 11:50 PM
a boy like him would never give a girl like me the time of day.

:mad:

TuralyonW3
05-24-2014, 11:54 PM
I was worried that Craig was really leaving netphoria but it's just a silly mass shooting thread

Order 66
05-25-2014, 01:30 AM
no i really am leaving. later guys its been real

duovamp
05-25-2014, 02:34 AM
I wear these sweet glasses and drive this cheap shitty old Bimmer, so why won't girls suck my cock already?

duovamp
05-25-2014, 02:38 AM
If any hot blondes want to answer my post, please PM me with pictures of your boobies.

duovamp
05-25-2014, 02:45 AM
Or of your hot cunts. I'll take pics of those too. THANKS!

duovamp
05-25-2014, 02:47 AM
No PMs yet but I know women are bashful around a man like me. Look, I understand that you might be afraid being around a supreme gentleman, but please, I do want pictures of all dem hot tatties.

duovamp
05-25-2014, 02:48 AM
I am now accepting dick pics, if any people who aren't blonde women out there want to send me pictures of their naked bodies.

reprise85
05-25-2014, 03:28 AM
well

i mean im not exactly in a position to diagnose him, but this guy clearly has narcisstic personality disorder.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Subtypes
<i>
"Compensatory narcissist:

Seeks to counteract or cancel out deep feelings of inferiority and lack of self-esteem; offsets deficits by creating illusions of being superior, exceptional, admirable, noteworthy; self-worth results from self-enhancement."</i>

totally

Order 66
05-25-2014, 07:09 AM
i just found out the girl i've been screwing around with behind her husbands back has been fucking some other guy.

i'm on this guy's page today. not going to kill anybody but HOW DARE YOU BE A WHORE WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARENT ME

hnibos
05-25-2014, 07:28 AM
wonder what diseases u got

Order 66
05-25-2014, 07:39 AM
i got polio

duovamp
05-25-2014, 10:35 AM
Still no PMs. The reckoning shall commence.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 10:39 AM
Jesus fucking christ:


http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/24/elliot_rodger_the_pick_up_artist_community_s_predi ctable_horrible_response.html


“THIS is why we do what we do,” Strategic Dating Coach weighed in. “TO PREVENT THIS SHIT!!! He should have gone to our website and got our personal dating coaching or purchased one of our products. IF ANYONE NEEDS HELP, CONTACT US! Don't ‘suffer injustice.’ ”

Members of Pick-Up Artist RooshV’s forums piled on. “Game saves lives,” one member said. “I'm trying to think of ways our enemies will come after us because of this, but if anything, we're the solution to this sort of murder rampage,” Roosh himself weighed in. “He is self-delusional and massively entitled, but exposing him to game may have saved lives.”



Remember guys, GAME SAVES LIVES.



Everyone mentioned in this article is a horrible person that should just...... well i think you can finish my sentence by now.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 10:42 AM
Also remember, now is not the time to have a discussion about gun laws.

duovamp
05-25-2014, 10:44 AM
I thought it was going to just be like some porn website. "Don't kill a bunch of people - crank one out. ;)"

sppunk
05-25-2014, 10:58 AM
Also remember, now is not the time to have a discussion about gun laws.

Since three were stabbed to death and he purchased guns legally you are right.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 10:59 AM
This is a two years old article that is related to the above

http://jezebel.com/5906648/the-angry-underground-world-of-failed-pickup-artists

MusicMan4
05-25-2014, 11:08 AM
Since three were stabbed to death and he purchased guns legally you are right.

did you mean to say illegally

bignothing
05-25-2014, 11:09 AM
yeah but this guy knew about "game" and was a member of puahate.com

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 11:22 AM
Since three were stabbed to death and he purchased guns legally you are right.


Well of course he purchased them legally. Obviosuly there would be no reason to mention gun laws if he had purchased them illegally. Isn't it slightly disturbing though that a guy that was in therapy with mental health professionals for years was allowed to buy guns? The california gun laws state that "It is unlawful for anyone convicted of a felony, or who is a drug addict, present or former mental patient, ever committed for mental observation, or acquitted by reason of insanity to own or possess any firearm."

But i think this should frankly be extended to anyone diagnosed with mental health problems. His parents had been concerned about his mental state before sending cops to his place. Then there was the incident when he claimed to have been victim of an assault but might actually have been an offender (which would have prevented him from being able to own a gun also). Basically if you have seen a psychiatrist the information on file on you should pop up for the Department of Justice when they make a background check on you and fuck your rights to privacy on that one.

I mean, i have mental health problems, i'd feel perfectly fine if because of them i wasn't allowed to buy guns. If nothing else, i might decide to shoot myself with one.

Seriously to me the very idea that any human being can purchase a gun, especially guns in no way meant for hunting, is disturbing. Sorry to be a libtard about this but it just is. I do not understand why any normal human being might want to own a gun. I just don't. But hey it's one of the constitutional rights.... wish the founding fathers would have known how fucking stupid such a right would be in the 21st century.

MusicMan4
05-25-2014, 11:31 AM
nothing in gun arguments annoys me more than when people bring up knife violence

Order 66
05-25-2014, 11:32 AM
marine todd needs guns to defend the bible

MusicMan4
05-25-2014, 11:33 AM
i think the thing that bothers me the most about 2nd amendment nuts is that they all miss the "well regulated" part

it's right there
but any attempt to regulate gun ownership is tyranny and a perversion of the 2nd amendment

sppunk
05-25-2014, 11:36 AM
Well of course he purchased them legally. Obviosuly there would be no reason to mention gun laws if he had purchased them illegally. Isn't it slightly disturbing though that a guy that was in therapy with mental health professionals for years was allowed to buy guns? The california gun laws state that "It is unlawful for anyone convicted of a felony, or who is a drug addict, present or former mental patient, ever committed for mental observation, or acquitted by reason of insanity to own or possess any firearm."

But i think this should frankly be extended to anyone diagnosed with mental health problems. His parents had been concerned about his mental state before sending cops to his place. Then there was the incident when he claimed to have been victim of an assault but might actually have been an offender (which would have prevented him from being able to own a gun also). Basically if you have seen a psychiatrist the information on file on you should pop up for the Department of Justice when they make a background check on you and fuck your rights to privacy on that one.

I mean, i have mental health problems, i'd feel perfectly fine if because of them i wasn't allowed to buy guns. If nothing else, i might decide to shoot myself with one.

Seriously to me the very idea that any human being can purchase a gun, especially guns in no way meant for hunting, is disturbing. Sorry to be a libtard about this but it just is. I do not understand why any normal human being might want to own a gun. I just don't. But hey it's one of the constitutional rights.... wish the founding fathers would have known how fucking stupid such a right would be in the 21st century.
I didn't say gun purchases need to be tightened, I simply said this action isn't one where it needs to be beaten to death.

This little fuck had a fairly charmed life with nothing terrible happening, yet he wanted to be "the man." Driving a BMW 3 series doesn't get your dick sucked, dead guy.

MusicMan4
05-25-2014, 11:39 AM
I didn't say gun purchases need to be tightened, I simply said this action isn't one where it needs to be beaten to death.

This little fuck had a fairly charmed life with nothing terrible happening, yet he wanted to be "the man." Driving a BMW 3 series doesn't get your dick sucked, dead guy.

but you said he purchased the guns legally
if he made a legal purchase then this is absolutely the time to look at maybe strengthening the damn laws

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 11:46 AM
I read in articles it was legal purchases, permits and all


To me sorry to say but the moment someone walks into a gun shop to buy a gun, red flag right there.

Order 66
05-25-2014, 11:52 AM
marine todd walks into an abortion clinic and obama was giving food stamps to feminist and he got out his .22 and shot all the abortions then obama started crying like a little girl and then toby keith started blaring from the speakers and everybody started chanting USA USA

MusicMan4
05-25-2014, 11:52 AM
i think if we're going to allow people to buy handguns literally every white male should just be barred from owning one
white male, anyone with documented history of mental problems
this includes the police force

sppunk
05-25-2014, 11:53 AM
but you said he purchased the guns legally
if he made a legal purchase then this is absolutely the time to look at maybe strengthening the damn laws

A waiting period wouldn't have stopped this. You have to tie purchases into a mental health exam to stop this type of deal.

The cops should've - you know - done a better job investigating when they visited his apartment last week.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 12:03 PM
i think if we're going to allow people to buy handguns literally every white male should just be barred from owning one
white male, anyone with documented history of mental problems
this includes the police force

^

Seriously

Trotskilicious
05-25-2014, 02:08 PM
yeah i said a while back that only women should bear arms

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 02:31 PM
Since three were stabbed to death and he purchased guns legally you are right.

Two Thirds of all murders in the USA are committed with guns.

30,000 people are killed every year in the USA with guns. 20,000 of those are suicides and 10,000 are murders. Gun owners are 5 times more likely to commit suicide. 75% of gun related homicides involved hand guns.

if you think all those suicides and murders would continue without guns you're fucking crazy.

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 02:38 PM
A waiting period wouldn't have stopped this. You have to tie purchases into a mental health exam to stop this type of deal.

The cops should've - you know - done a better job investigating when they visited his apartment last week.

take away all the guns.

problem solved

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 02:39 PM
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/25/ucsb_shooting_update_father_of_the_shooting_victim _calls_out_politicians_and_nra/

At a press conference earlier today, a self-identified father of one of the victims in last night’s mass shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara, named his son, Chris Martinez, as one of the victims. In a heart-wrenching statement the father, Richard Martinez, expressed his profound sadness. His 20-year-old son was on his way to a market when he was killed.

“Why did Chris die?” Richard Martinez said at a press conference. “Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights, what about Chris’ right to live? When will this insanity stop?”

sppunk
05-25-2014, 02:46 PM
take away all the guns.

problem solved

Great idea.

Also if poor people got better jobs they wouldn't be poor. We can solve all problems here and now, Scotty.

Trotskilicious
05-25-2014, 02:58 PM
scott's a man with solutions

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 03:12 PM
No but take guns away from anyone not law enforcement. Australia nearly did and it's doing them well. I mean you CAN get them but its ridiculously restrictive.

Category A: Rimfire rifles (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump-action or semi-automatic), air rifles, and paintball markers. A "Genuine Reason" must be provided for a Category A firearm.
Category B: Centrefire rifles (not semi-automatic), muzzleloading firearms made after 1 January 1901. Apart from a "Genuine Reason", a "Genuine Need" must be demonstrated, including why a Category A firearm would not be suitable.
Category C: Semi-automatic rimfire rifles holding 10 or fewer rounds and pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding 5 or fewer rounds. Category C firearms are strongly restricted: only primary producers, occupational shooters, collectors and some clay target shooters can own functional Category C firearms.
Category D: Semi-automatic centrefire rifles, pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding more than 5 rounds. Functional Category D firearms are restricted to government agencies and a few occupational shooters. Collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms.
Category H: Handguns including air pistols and deactivated handguns. (Albeit both SA and WA do not require deactivated handguns to be regarded as handguns after the deactivation process has taken place. This situation was the catalyst in QLD for the deactivation and diversion of thousands of handguns to the black-market – the loophole shut since 2001) This class is available to target shooters. To be eligible for a Category H firearm, a target shooter must serve a probationary period of 12 months the first 6 months using club handguns,then in the remainder of the last 6 month probationary licence, an application may be made, permit to acquire. A minimum number of matches yearly to retain each category of handgun and be a financial member of an approved Pistol Club. Source http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/services/firearms

These categories – A,B,C,D and H were those determined by the NFA. The others listed here are determined by the states that have implement them at their own discretion.
Target shooters are limited to handguns of .38 or 9mm calibre or less and magazines may hold a maximum of 10 rounds. Participants in certain "approved" pistol competitions may acquire handguns up to .45", currently Single Action Shooting and Metallic Silhouette. IPSC shooting is approved for 9mm/.38/.357 sig, handguns that meet the IPSC rules, but larger calibres are not approved for IPSC handgun shooting contests in Australia. source http://www.ipsc.org.au/ . Category H barrels must be at least 100mm (3.94") long for revolvers, and 120mm (4.72") for semi-automatic pistols unless the pistols are clearly ISSF target pistols: magazines are restricted to 10 rounds. Handguns held as part of a collection were exempted from these limits.

Category R/E: Restricted weapons: machine guns, rocket launchers, assault rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, Howitzers, artillery, etc. can be owned by collectors in some states provided that these weapons have been rendered permanently inoperable. They are subject to the same storage and licensing requirements as fully functioning firearms.

Certain Antique firearms can in some states be legally held without licences. In other states they are subject to the same requirements as modern firearms.



And of course that doesn't change that people can get illegal weapons but that's still something. you think a little wuss like Elliot Rodgers would have bought guns illegally? I doubt it.

sppunk
05-25-2014, 03:23 PM
You go to hunting camps and inner city drug dens and get their guns.

Wear a Go Pro when you do it too please.

D.
05-25-2014, 03:28 PM
No but take guns away from anyone not law enforcement.

Nothing could possibly go wrong there.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 05:56 PM
Nothing could possibly go wrong there.

Yes cause we need to have guns to protect ourselves from law enforcement. What?


I mean sure law enforcement is full of scumfucks who go overboard but I don't think the only solution to this is for the citizens to be armed against them.


And if you're somehow (omega) concerned the military will take over or something, guns or no guns they'll do it if they want to.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 06:01 PM
Again that's almost the case in Australia and the % of violent crimes has gone down considerably. Sure, the US isn't Australia, but that's always the argument you hear for everything. "Oh well America isn't like Scandinavia/Australia/Canada/UK etc etc. so what works there wouldn't here". Yes because it's not like those countries why make the effort to try and be more like them? That seems like a good argument.

pavementtune
05-25-2014, 06:04 PM
Do the online gunss discussions actually ever change, at least slightly?
I feel like I've seen the exact same back and forth at least 3 times on this board alone, and it's always the same.

Shooting - guns - someone mentions Australia or NZ - answer is that won't work in the US. Add a couple of pages, discuss mental health care for bit, and then hit repeat for the next shooting.

Elphenor
05-25-2014, 06:12 PM
Yeah, but, Australia is like so far away

They're pretty much a different species.

sppunk
05-25-2014, 06:14 PM
Do the online gunss discussions actually ever change, at least slightly?
I feel like I've seen the exact same back and forth at least 3 times on this board alone, and it's always the same.

Shooting - guns - someone mentions Australia or NZ - answer is that won't work in the US. Add a couple of pages, discuss mental health care for bit, and then hit repeat for the next shooting.

Bingo. Which is why gun debates after a mass shooting is redundant and pointless.

Brussels had a mass shooting today too; hopefully Belgiumphoria is debating this too.

Eulogy
05-25-2014, 06:35 PM
Bingo. Which is why gun debates after a mass shooting is redundant and pointless.

Brussels had a mass shooting today too; hopefully Belgiumphoria is debating this too.

oh jesus christ

sppunk
05-25-2014, 06:41 PM
oh jesus christ

My point is debating things at the height of emotion is the worst time to debate anything.

Guns should be like cars; centrally serialized, registered-required and require testing. But that'll likely never see the light of day.

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 06:43 PM
registering guns doesn't stop people from killing with them

I'm Hardcore
05-25-2014, 06:48 PM
Also if poor people got better jobs they wouldn't be poor. We can solve all problems here and now, Scotty.

that is a stupid comparison

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 06:48 PM
My point is debating things at the height of emotion is the worst time to debate anything.

Guns should be like cars; centrally serialized, registered-required and require testing. But that'll likely never see the light of day.


yeah but don't you realize that since there's a shooting like this like every two months that means it's then never apparently a good moment to debate it. That's the fucking joke.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 06:51 PM
Yeah, but, Australia is like so far away

They're pretty much a different species.

I have to say if there is one continent where it feels like maybe a sane idea to own a gun, it's Australia. Without a gun you'll probably die five seconds after heading out into nature.

Eulogy
05-25-2014, 06:54 PM
My point is debating things at the height of emotion is the worst time to debate anything.

Guns should be like cars; centrally serialized, registered-required and require testing. But that'll likely never see the light of day.

why is it the worst time to debate gun laws after mass shootings

Eulogy
05-25-2014, 06:55 PM
that's such bullshit conventional wisdom that makes no fucking sense

Eulogy
05-25-2014, 06:56 PM
and guns aren't like cars

cars get you places

guns just kill things

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 07:05 PM
why is it the worst time to debate gun laws after mass shootings

Because libtards like me might make very good arguments as to why there needs to be more regulations. Because we can then just point at what just happened and say "See?" and then gun nuts have nothing good to say in defense except sometimes things about video games or some stupid similar diversion or other or they say "well you are too emotional right now so this isn't a right time to debate about this"

Anyway the real issue that we all seem to forget here and why this happened is because women are stuck up bitches. I mean if they were less unwilling to suck penises indiscriminately then this wouldn't have happened. Remember women, cocksucking saves lives.

No but more seriously i bet some right wing nut will say that the issue is that we should lock up all Aspergers in asylums or something. Limbaugh or some other moron will probably have something like that.

And I mean lets not forget he was playing Halo 3 and WoW! Like most young mass shooters in recent history, he played video games! I think we're on to something there (of course most males under 40 play video games to one extent or another but let's not that be a relevant statistic)

Elphenor
05-25-2014, 07:10 PM
I have to say if there is one continent where it feels like maybe a sane idea to own a gun, it's Australia. Without a gun you'll probably die five seconds after heading out into nature.

You'd die anyway because you wouldn't be able to breath the air because Australia is soooo different.

Order 66
05-25-2014, 07:14 PM
it's not a stretch that he did

obviously has some kind of acute pathological disorder

sppunk
05-25-2014, 07:25 PM
why is it the worst time to debate gun laws after mass shootings

Proper debates should be held without deep emotional twinges, that's why I said that. The gun laws in this country are insane, yes, but the culture is a bigger issue than the gun laws. Guns will always be available, illegally or legally, in America. A cultural shift needs to happen. This shooting will instead be distracted with the MRA bullshit.

sppunk
05-25-2014, 07:26 PM
Because libtards like me might make very good arguments as to why there needs to be more regulations. Because we can then just point at what just happened and say "See?" and then gun nuts have nothing good to say in defense except sometimes things about video games or some stupid similar diversion or other or they say "well you are too emotional right now so this isn't a right time to debate about this"

Anyway the real issue that we all seem to forget here and why this happened is because women are stuck up bitches. I mean if they were less unwilling to suck penises indiscriminately then this wouldn't have happened. Remember women, cocksucking saves lives.

No but more seriously i bet some right wing nut will say that the issue is that we should lock up all Aspergers in asylums or something. Limbaugh or some other moron will probably have something like that.

And I mean lets not forget he was playing Halo 3 and WoW! Like most young mass shooters in recent history, he played video games! I think we're on to something there (of course most males under 40 play video games to one extent or another but let's not that be a relevant statistic)
If you think a gun nut posts here, you've been gone too much.

duovamp
05-25-2014, 07:57 PM
it's not a stretch that he did

obviously has some kind of acute pathological disorder

Kid also had a dorky haircut.

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 08:54 PM
Proper debates should be held without deep emotional twinges, that's why I said that. The gun laws in this country are insane, yes, but the culture is a bigger issue than the gun laws. Guns will always be available, illegally or legally, in America. A cultural shift needs to happen. This shooting will instead be distracted with the MRA bullshit.

this isn't much of a debate. but you're mostly correct. Although, I don't think that rational gun control can't happen here. Today's gun culture is a 20th century invention.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 08:57 PM
If you think a gun nut posts here, you've been gone too much.

I wasn't talking about the discussion HERE i'm talking about the discussion in general. I dont even expect there's someone who ever voted republican on this forum.

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 09:00 PM
lol

bignothing
05-25-2014, 09:00 PM
but there are

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 09:01 PM
I want names so i can ignore whatever opinion they might ever have on anything in the future.

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 09:02 PM
I really would like Omega Concern's perspective on this story.

scottytheoneand
05-25-2014, 09:03 PM
Libtard seems more and more like an appropriate label

The exploding boy
05-25-2014, 09:59 PM
Are you implying right wingers ever have anything pertinent to say about anything?


I'm actually so far left i'm almost right. I have a streak of fascism in me.

duovamp
05-25-2014, 11:57 PM
I'm sure you can fit more in there.

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 12:03 AM
Thats what she s.... oh nevermind,

Starla
05-26-2014, 01:05 AM
No but take guns away from anyone not law enforcement. Australia nearly did and it's doing them well. I mean you CAN get them but its ridiculously restrictive.

Good for them but this isn't Australia, it's merica.

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 01:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Starla
05-26-2014, 01:13 AM
Reagan should have rounded up all the guns after that assasination attempt.

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 01:18 AM
Reagen should have been assassinated

Starla
05-26-2014, 01:18 AM
Why do people in other countries want Americans to do things the way they do in their country? Liberals want to cut off everyones balls. Let's ban cross bows, flame throwers, knives, cars, rope, poisonous substances, razor blades, box cutters, forks, etc. Lets wrap everything in bubble wrap so no one gets hurt.

Starla
05-26-2014, 01:19 AM
That's beside the point...lol

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 01:26 AM
Or let's just try to have a little less perfectly designed human killing mechanisms in the hands of people who want to
kill humans.

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 01:39 AM
Good for them but this isn't Australia, it's merica.

You should have read further, I said someone would bring that up.

America should take some cues about how they do things in other countries because america is lagging behind every other major western country on pretty much everything. Education, health, crime, poverty you name it. And I care how well America is doing even as a canadian because there's one thing America is still number 1 at, it's being the major global superpower (but if they keep lagging on everything that's not gonna last) and if America does badly i worry about the government it might elect and when i worry about its government, I worry about the world. I'm not gonna lie i care more about the result of US elections than the result of Canadian elections. I mean what they call conservatives in Canada is about as to the left as the dems in america anyway (well except for a few things).

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 01:42 AM
Or let's just try to have a little less perfectly designed human killing mechanisms in the hands of people who want to
kill humans.

Not but see (roll the tape) guns don't kill people. people kill people!


Well yes and i'd rather take my chances against someone armed with a knife or baseball bat than someone wielding a gun. Sure this guy stabbed three people first, but when he went to the streets, I don't think he'd have managed to kill many armed with just a knife.

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 01:51 AM
It's so surreal to actually have to tell someone guns are more dangerous than knifes.

Starla
05-26-2014, 02:01 AM
If I wanted to live in Canada, and do things the way they do, then I'd move there.

Starla
05-26-2014, 02:02 AM
Somehow, some guys hijacked some planes, and managed to kill over 3k people at once with box cutters. Why didn't we get rid of box cutters?

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 02:07 AM
Move to Iraq

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 02:08 AM
This country is already pussified you know?

Mayfuck
05-26-2014, 02:55 AM
We need boxcutters to open boxes though

Shallowed
05-26-2014, 04:29 AM
It doesn't matter how he killed these people or what with, the motive is still there.

That being the all too common belief that he is entitled to sex and if he doesn't get it then it is a great injustice to him, because women have the audacity to not want to have sex with him.

Starla
05-26-2014, 05:02 AM
Right. The real issue here isn't being addressed...

I'm not all pro gun or anything like that. I've owned guns, used for protection and whenever I went hunting with my dad. But when he passed... and I moved away from a larger bear population, I got rid of the guns. To be honest, I never felt totally safe with them around. To me, they were a nuisance. I still feel that guns should be allowed in the hands of those who are responsible and sane. I'd like to know how Elliot got the guns he had. Apparently, not legally.... guns will still be around, even if banned.

Eulogy
05-26-2014, 09:56 AM
He got them legally. Because it's really fucking easy to buy guns here.

scottytheoneand
05-26-2014, 10:23 AM
Right. The real issue here isn't being addressed...

I'm not all pro gun or anything like that. I've owned guns, used for protection and whenever I went hunting with my dad. But when he passed... and I moved away from a larger bear population, I got rid of the guns. To be honest, I never felt totally safe with them around. To me, they were a nuisance. I still feel that guns should be allowed in the hands of those who are responsible and sane. I'd like to know how Elliot got the guns he had. Apparently, not legally.... guns will still be around, even if banned.

in countries where they are banned guns aren't around. Japan has 10 gun deaths per year. the usa has 30,000.

The three people he shot and those he injured with guns would still be alive today if guns weren't available to him. That's a common theme with one mass kiling after another.

the issue of male priviledge is much more difficult to deal with than getting guns off the street. As long as a psychotics like him can get his hands on a weapon designed to inflict mass casualties tens of thousands of people are going to die.

Eulogy
05-26-2014, 10:37 AM
but that's ok because 'merica

Order 66
05-26-2014, 10:42 AM
gun culture is so deeply embedded here there's pretty much nothing that can be done about it

scottytheoneand
05-26-2014, 10:47 AM
Today's gun culture is NOT as deeply embeded as many people think. Most people don't own guns. A majority of Americans support basic reforms, like limits or even bans on hand guns and semi automatic weapons.

Today's NRA culture is also not that old. It's a product of Mid 20th Century America. From the founding of the country until after WWII virtually all the guns in private hands were simple hunting rifles. In fact, prior to WWII there were very strick gun laws in many parts of the USA. Many cities banned handguns altogether.

Shallowed
05-26-2014, 11:04 AM
The three people he shot and those he injured with guns would still be alive today if guns weren't available to him.

I don't believe that.

Eulogy
05-26-2014, 11:11 AM
I don't believe that.

how can you not believe that

he would have killed people from his car with throwing stars or knives?

MusicMan4
05-26-2014, 11:15 AM
he would have maybe still killed a bunch of people, yes
obviously he killed his roommates with knives

but can we maybe agree that it shouldn't have been that easy for him

if he hadn't been able to just legally buy an arsenal maybe he wouldn't have so easily planned his "day of retrobution"

MusicMan4
05-26-2014, 11:17 AM
rob delaney @robdelaney

If your response to calls for gun control is “Should we get rid of cars too?” the answer is, for you, yes. You should not have a gun or car.

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The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 11:20 AM
If I wanted to live in Canada, and do things the way they do, then I'd move there.

you really should, you'd have wait a lot better here in every single way. I wasn't even really talking about Canada anyway. I don't know, this whole attitude of DONT TELL MERICA HOW TO DO IT is stupid. Like oh the US couldn't POSSIBLY take cues from other countries, that would be a sign of weakness or something. I mean that's how people like you seem to present it.

MusicMan4
05-26-2014, 11:23 AM
i desperately want to move to canada but they'd never let me

with stephen harper and rob ford and the general dogshit treatment their native population continues to get i'm sure it's slowly going the way of this country anyway

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 11:23 AM
<i>
rob delaney @robdelaney

If your response to calls for gun control is “Should we get rid of cars too?” the answer is, for you, yes. You should not have a gun or car.
</i>


Yeah this is exactly the kind of stupid shit they always pull. A car isn't specifically designed to kill things! Sure ok he could still have rammed people with his car I guess, they would have still stood a better chance.

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 11:27 AM
i desperately want to move to canada but they'd never let me

with stephen harper and rob ford and the general dogshit treatment their native population continues to get i'm sure it's slowly going the way of this country anyway

That's true about Harper. Who cares about rob ford? That's just Toronto and if you live in Toronto, you had it coming.

and the natives have been treated shittily across the whole of north America for centuries. This is nothing new even in Canada. Over here in Quebec they used to take the kids away from the parents by force them and put them into catholic schools were most would get physically and/or sexually abused. And i'm talking like up until mid last century. Forced assimilation.

MusicMan4
05-26-2014, 11:33 AM
"that's just toronto"
it's the biggest city in the country and of course a bunch of people voting there voting for a right-wing buffoon who wants to stop "out of control big government" is an issue that the whole country should be concerned about
like there's a reason that in america the nyc mayoral elections are big national news

Trotskilicious
05-26-2014, 12:00 PM
rob ford is a bush style politician, born with a silver spoon in his mouth but he developed this blue collar oaf comedy routine somewhere along the line now resentful lower middle class types love him no matter what because to them he is revolting against bourgoisie values

Trotskilicious
05-26-2014, 12:02 PM
It's so surreal to actually have to tell someone guns are more dangerous than knifes.

what kind of stupid is this

i'm not even going to read this thread

YES GUNS ARE MORE DANGEROUS HAVE YOU READ ABOUT WORLD HISTORY

Trotskilicious
05-26-2014, 12:02 PM
GUNS FOR SHOW KNIVES FOR A PRO

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 12:05 PM
"that's just toronto"
it's the biggest city in the country and of course a bunch of people voting there voting for a right-wing buffoon who wants to stop "out of control big government" is an issue that the whole country should be concerned about
like there's a reason that in america the nyc mayoral elections are big national news

Ok well I have to say being a French canadian from Quebec, it's not like the rest of this country has much to do with me as is proven by this map of the last elections.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Canada_2011_Federal_Election.svg


you might notice a pattern. As in pretty much almost everyone but us likes the conservatives. So yeah I kinda tend to tune Ontario and such out, their reality isn't mine. Anyway the liberals will likely win the next election according to the last poll I read about in april (where the liberals were taking 36% of the vote against 26 for the cons...of course elections are still a year away) and thank god for that. I'll take little rich douche Trudeau over Harper any day.

Starla
05-26-2014, 04:11 PM
you really should, you'd have wait a lot better here in every single way. I wasn't even really talking about Canada anyway. I don't know, this whole attitude of DONT TELL MERICA HOW TO DO IT is stupid. Like oh the US couldn't POSSIBLY take cues from other countries, that would be a sign of weakness or something. I mean that's how people like you seem to present it.

People like me? Please tell me, what kind of person I am.

reprise85
05-26-2014, 04:15 PM
in countries where they are banned guns aren't around. Japan has 10 gun deaths per year. the usa has 30,000.

The three people he shot and those he injured with guns would still be alive today if guns weren't available to him. That's a common theme with one mass kiling after another.

the issue of male priviledge is much more difficult to deal with than getting guns off the street. As long as a psychotics like him can get his hands on a weapon designed to inflict mass casualties tens of thousands of people are going to die.

He wasn't psychotic, he had some delusions of grandeur but he did not have a psychotic illness (most likely, I'm not a doc but it seems like he had a personality disorder and not an Axis I, or at least along with an Axis I disorder). If the problem was just making sure psychotic people didn't have guns, enforcement would be much easier. But people who are callous and just want to hurt people but are perfectly sane (aware of their actions and their consequences) can easily pass as "normal" and get a gun. This is because their thought processes ARE basically normal - they understand cause and effect, their personality is the problem and their different (or lack of) values.

People like him will always be able to get guns if they want them, but it will be especially easy as long as they are legal. And he, from his videos, is rather unsophisticated. He wears his narcissism and psychopathic tendencies fairly obviously, I mean he made videos for fuck's sake. If we can't stop someone like him, we are doomed.

Starla
05-26-2014, 04:29 PM
he would have maybe still killed a bunch of people, yes
obviously he killed his roommates with knives

but can we maybe agree that it shouldn't have been that easy for him

if he hadn't been able to just legally buy an arsenal maybe he wouldn't have so easily planned his "day of retrobution"

I agree. Elliot kind of reminds me of Marc Lepine.

Starla
05-26-2014, 04:32 PM
Erica, have you seen this? I really don't know if it belongs to him, but apparently he made it, according to the youtube description.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xdp0QsqYbuY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 05:14 PM
He clearly did not make that lol

Trotskilicious
05-26-2014, 05:33 PM
what makes you so fuking sure

Elphenor
05-26-2014, 06:44 PM
Did you watch it?

scottytheoneand
05-26-2014, 06:44 PM
Erica, you can't psychoanalyze him via CNN. The guy was obviously disturbed

Shallowed
05-26-2014, 07:23 PM
how can you not believe that

he would have killed people from his car with throwing stars or knives?

Because he was a very, very hateful, bitter and spiteful man and he would have found other means of killing his targets of hatred. And he did, by stabbing three people. It's not like he's rendered violently impotent just because he can't get a gun. It seems kind of obvious to me.

I don't like guns as much as you guys but if you take away guns there'll still be psychopaths like this.

Shallowed
05-26-2014, 08:20 PM
Just look at where his priorities lie

http://i.imgur.com/h6DRhNM.png

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 08:32 PM
I really would like Omega Concern's perspective on this story.


It's early still, but...put it this way: The US Government was behind Aurora, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombings and signs already point to this Santa Barbara event as well.


Each a mass psy-op toward multi-platformed agenda's, chiefly among them to abolish gun rights.


A trail of evidence to expose these hoaxes can be seen if one is willing to look and think through.


as for Santa Barbara: obvmasspsyopis obvious clue #1 --- You'd think for the benefit of the victims youtube would take down his annoying tirade. But no it's still there to program. And the Manifesto??? lol...holy NLP (nuero-linguistic programming) batman.

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 08:42 PM
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Mind=blown.

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 08:51 PM
Reading through the manifesto right now.... if only the cops had searched his room, this may not have happened. I'm wondering why they didn't. Isn't that pretty much standard with all of the shootings that have been taking place?



The first red flag I saw for this was hearing the report that the cops checked him out without alarming them. There's a pattern of law enforcement being involved with the perps before they get activated. Reminiscent of the Tuscon shootings as well as the FBI knowing who the Tsarnaev brothers were while denying it at first. Circumstances differ for each case of involvement, and the cops in S.B. may have been fooled by the kid and nothing else can be gleemed from their encounter with him. (Doesn't pass the smell test however...)

Order 66
05-26-2014, 08:59 PM
yesterday i was thing "omega's probably going to leave this one alone"

so naive

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 09:04 PM
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Mind=blown.




http://www.septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/arredondo-backdrop-01_5042623_GIFSoup.com.gif



I do not wish to rehash the Boston Bombings here. I wish to enlighten you to the hoax of it however. Notice something funny about the backdrop here, yet 'hero cowboy' seems unaffected? Yes, their software is better than the bluescreen stuff of old, but still, there's glitches.


as for S.B. I've heard chatter about a 2nd gunmen, which wouldn't surprise since Aurora and Sandy Hook had similar initial claims from eyewitnesses...and then the media gets their marching orders and redo the lone gunmen theory yet again, like they've been doing since Oswald.

Keeps working I suppose, though more and more are on to the game.

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 09:08 PM
yesterday i was thing "omega's probably going to leave this one alone"

so naive

sorry, my fault.

The exploding boy
05-26-2014, 09:10 PM
There is no way TOC is not a troll. No way. I refuse to believe it.

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 09:18 PM
yesterday i was thing "omega's probably going to leave this one alone"

so naive




tbh, so did I. But when that grieving parent went with the prepared speech anti-gun anti-NRA route, I started to pay attention, because that also is a recurring theme with these psy-ops.

Bread Regal
05-26-2014, 09:22 PM
http://www.septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/arredondo-backdrop-01_5042623_GIFSoup.com.gif



I do not wish to rehash the Boston Bombings here. I wish to enlighten you to the hoax of it however. Notice something funny about the backdrop here, yet 'hero cowboy' seems unaffected? Yes, their software is better than the bluescreen stuff of old, but still, there's glitches.


as for S.B. I've heard chatter about a 2nd gunmen, which wouldn't surprise since Aurora and Sandy Hook had similar initial claims from eyewitnesses...and then the media gets their marching orders and redo the lone gunmen theory yet again, like they've been doing since Oswald.

Keeps working I suppose, though more and more are on to the game.
jesus christ you idiot, that's an artifact of image stabilization.

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottytheoneand
The three people he shot and those he injured with guns would still be alive today if guns weren't available to him.

I don't believe that.



You shouldn't. scotty is a DNC shill with programmed responses. Such people can't think for themselves and generally hate those that can and do.


The flip side to the illogic scotty presents, is that if even one of those 3 boys that got stabbed had a gun and was properly trained to use it, its possible only Elliot would have been wounded or dead.


It's right to bring up the antithesis to his premise. But the commies will ostracize you for doing so. Me, I'm used to it.

Bread Regal
05-26-2014, 09:28 PM
other choice images in the same directory as that one:

http://septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/BLUEWHITEterrorstripes.jpg

http://septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/SGTPEPPERoriginal.jpg
http://septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/SGTPEPPERboston.jpg


http://septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/Woolwich_GREYrailing.jpg

http://septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL/Woolwich_WHITErailing1.jpg

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 09:29 PM
jesus christ you idiot, that's an artifact of image stabilization.

explain. because only the background seems to be doing so while the cowboy does not.

Bread Regal
05-26-2014, 09:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xw-g8q09Ds0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

top video is raw unstabilized video, probably shot with something like a cameraphone which employs the rolling shutter. it should be noted that one thing about the rolling shutter is that not every part of the frame was exposed at the same instant, so when objects move across the frame prependicular to the direction of the rolling shutter, they appear to be slanted. objects moving in the same or opposite direction of the rolling shutter appear compressed or stretched, respectively.

bottom left is stabilization without rolling shutter correction. note how everything looks wobbly. the stabilization software is making a best guess as to what in the frame in stationary, and that is the best it can do with the flawed data.

bottom right corrects the effect created by the rolling shutter, so while not perfect, it is probably the best approximation of what the scene looks like.

youtube has an automatic image stabilizing feature on uploaded videos, but rolling shutter correction is a much more comlicated process and often can't be done without human intervention.

Bread Regal
05-26-2014, 09:41 PM
the reason the man in the foreground doesn't seem to be affected is because he is the largest stationary figure in the frame, so youtube software automatically chooses him as a sort of "pivot" for the corrction in the rest of the frame.

Bread Regal
05-26-2014, 09:48 PM
this is just another example of why anomalous observations are either mere coincidences or have a plausible, reasonable, relicable scientific explanation that doesn't involve whatever secret society you choose to ascribe these horrible events to on that particular day.

i know i'm wasting my time here, considering you didn't waver on your anti-vaccination bullshit. but goddamn.

reprise85
05-26-2014, 09:55 PM
Erica, you can't psychoanalyze him via CNN. The guy was obviously disturbed

I don't know what his diagnosis was, but clearly there are many people like I describe who have guns and shouldn't. I believe he is one of them, but regardless, the problem is there.

yo soy el mejor
05-26-2014, 11:26 PM
sorry, john, that makes too much sense to be true.

and i only believe things i think are true.

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 11:43 PM
the reason the man in the foreground doesn't seem to be affected is because he is the largest stationary figure in the frame, so youtube software automatically chooses him as a sort of "pivot" for the corrction in the rest of the frame.



How come I've never noticed it to this extent on any other youtube vid?



So we can't suggest that the backdrop reacts to 'camera movement' differently than the foreground does?


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/pWHHWB3Jr60?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



Is this sufficient to determine that as opposed to real, unadulterated video footage, its digitally composed? I think its fair to speculate the algorithms regulating the camera movement (foreground relative to background) is not calibrated properly. the glitch could be there not youtube.

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 11:46 PM
o.k. Here we go again...



Reported by Roger the Scanner Guy
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=134743

2014-05-23 09:33 PM

TRIGO, DELPLAYS, 6500 Block of Pardel shots fired from black bmw people down all available police units to IV SOB TCed..


2014-05-23 09:34 PM

Suspect has crashed people down all over the place all available AMRS TO IV AS WELL AS POLICE.

2014-05-23 09:36 PM

SEVERAL VCICTIMS SOME ARE DEAD...BOTH SHOOTERS ARE IN CUSTODY..

2014-05-23 09:37 PM

NOTIFY HOSPITALS NUMEROUS VICTIMS COMING IN..CODE BLUE IV MARKET..


2014-05-23 09:39 PM

AT LEAST 2 PEOPLE DEAD IN ISLA VISTA AFTER A DRIVE BY SHOOTING IN IV CALIFORNIA..2 CRITICAL ONE CODE BLUE, ONE MINOR...STILL FINDING VICTIMS DOWN..


2014-05-23 09:40 PM

Both suspects have mulitaple gun shot wounds..


2014-05-23 09:43 PM

I can't get all the addresses down I'm hearing one red that's critical, 2 black at one location 2 dead...I hear sirens going past me...Hearing gunshots through the arm one through the back..6561 Sabo Tarde Officer involved shooting..Girl down at 7-11 with legs wounds..


2014-05-23 09:44 PM

Del Norte Segova that's where the 2 dead are..


2014-05-23 09:45 PM

I heard it going down over the scanner falling asleep this wqoke me up couldn't believe it there are mulitaple gunshot victims.


2014-05-23 09:53 PM

It sounded like 2 shooters in a vehicle a black BMW, At least one Black male driver like they were crusing through town shooting..It sounds to me like 2 dead right off the bat, acouple critical numerous minor wounds and it's very possible both shooters are dead too on Del Playa but I cannot totally confirm anything..It's really confusing..

The Omega Concern
05-26-2014, 11:51 PM
4mins 23sec... Both subjects in custody at crash scene





https://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/ems-scanner-santa-barbara-mass-shooting-23may2014

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 07:09 AM
I don't know what his diagnosis was, but clearly there are many people like I describe who have guns and shouldn't. I believe he is one of them, but regardless, the problem is there.

i think you're confusing lunatics with ass holes

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 07:11 AM
can we ban TOC for his constant thread hijacking? It long ago ceased to be funny

duovamp
05-27-2014, 07:12 AM
I can't believe anyone entertains that troll still.

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 07:18 AM
99% of his posts are either trolling or hijacking threads

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 07:19 AM
if anybody else pulled that shit they'd be out.

reprise85
05-27-2014, 07:26 AM
Thread for The Omega Concern to keep his conspiracy talk in (http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=180144&highlight=conspiracy+talk)

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 07:51 AM
wishful thinking

The exploding boy
05-27-2014, 10:39 AM
I blame my status a newly (re)arrived member for still finding entertainment value in TOC. It's possible he would have posted without me baiting him to but nonetheless, i apologise to everyone.

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 10:46 AM
No one care

The exploding boy
05-27-2014, 11:02 AM
You're predictably boring. Unlike TOC who is predictable but at least vaguely entertaining. Even i'm more entertaining than you.

Starla
05-27-2014, 01:48 PM
If that's so entertaining to you, you should just go to GLP, clues forum or well aware.

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 04:22 PM
I don't know what his diagnosis was, but clearly there are many people like I describe who have guns and shouldn't. I believe he is one of them, but regardless, the problem is there.

there's no way to predict who will or won't be a killer for the purpose of denying them access to guns. Where should the government draw the line? Should anybody with a mental health issue be denied guns?

This guy was seen 3 different mental health professionals. He'd been visited by the police. There seems to have been no legal rational for detaining him, arresting him, etc. And if somehow he'd been sent to even more therapy what good would it do? You can't lock people away for being depressed, weird, annoying or for being a misogynist asshole.

there's a media narrative that murderers are all just lunatics who weren't stopped in time. But that's not accurate. With 10,000 homicides per year and tens of thousands of shootings (that lead to injury and not death) they obviously aren't all committed by crazy people. Yeah, the USA needs better mental health care, but the real reason this keeps coming up whenever there's a sensational case like this is that it's easier to blame this on mental health care (or lack thereof) than to talk about the fact that the real problem is the gun culture and easy access to fire arms.

Shallowed
05-27-2014, 04:23 PM
I blame my status a newly (re)arrived member for still finding entertainment value in TOC. It's possible he would have posted without me baiting him to but nonetheless, i apologise to everyone.

He's not an inactive poster.

Trotskilicious
05-27-2014, 05:49 PM
he's not a troll, he's a real person

hnibos
05-27-2014, 05:59 PM
with real feelings

yo soy el mejor
05-27-2014, 06:02 PM
real dumb, too.

Trotskilicious
05-27-2014, 06:03 PM
yeah he's mentally ill i mean i wouldn't just call him dumb or a troll, he's got issues

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 06:37 PM
is there a specific mental illness that gives a boarder a free pass to hijack threads? Or does someone simply need to troll harder than anybody else?

hnibos
05-27-2014, 06:55 PM
shut the fuck up scotty

duovamp
05-27-2014, 07:35 PM
scotty please

Starla
05-27-2014, 09:45 PM
Should anybody with a mental health issue be denied guns?



Yes.

The exploding boy
05-27-2014, 10:49 PM
Meaning most people on this forum shouldn't be allowed near guns (starting with me of course)

sppunk
05-27-2014, 10:56 PM
Yes.

That's more than a quarter of the country.

Should be higher IMO.

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 10:58 PM
Yes.

so someone with an eating disorder should have their constitutional rights suspended? Despite never having broken a law?

A vet with PTSD would have their 2nd amendment rights taken away?

What other constitutional rights should someone with a psychiatric disorder lose?

scottytheoneand
05-27-2014, 11:02 PM
the idiotic part of that line of thinking is the fact that every year thousands of people with no mental health issues kill people.

But somehow they should still be able to buy guns... ?

Shallowed
05-27-2014, 11:09 PM
Meaning most people on this forum shouldn't be allowed near guns (starting with me of course)

FUCK!

And I wanted a gun so badly.

killtrocity
05-27-2014, 11:48 PM
Since three were stabbed to death and he purchased guns legally you are right.

That's the whole point, bro.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this,36131/

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

The exploding boy
05-28-2014, 12:25 AM
so someone with an eating disorder should have their constitutional rights suspended? Despite never having broken a law?

A vet with PTSD would have their 2nd amendment rights taken away?

What other constitutional rights should someone with a psychiatric disorder lose?

Personally, but keep in mind i say this as someone not an american, i don't see why the 2nd amendment has to exist at all anymore. I mean yeah im realistic, it's never gonna go away cause there's many that love their guns, but seriously, fuck the second amendment hard.

Elphenor
05-28-2014, 12:48 AM
"Well regulated militia"

Starla
05-28-2014, 03:53 AM
so someone with an eating disorder should have their constitutional rights suspended? Despite never having broken a law?

A vet with PTSD would have their 2nd amendment rights taken away?

What other constitutional rights should someone with a psychiatric disorder lose?

I thought you wanted guns taken away, period. I don't want to comment on eating disorders, as we both know how complex it is.

Anyone, veteran or not, shouldn't own firearms if they are unstable. Wouldn't you agree with this?

You're sort of jumping to the conclusions mat here, by assuming I'm for banning rights straight across the board.

Starla
05-28-2014, 04:01 AM
The thing is this.... do we have the time and money to evaluate every single person in this country dealing with a psychiatric disorder for gun ownership? I'm going to say no.

sppunk
05-28-2014, 08:27 AM
That's the whole point, bro.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this,36131/

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

Holy fuck if I read one more post where "TAJE AWAY ALL YHE GUNS" is their solution I'm going to scream.

IT. IS. NOT. HAPPENING.

Focus instead on the issues that cause people to use the gun.

Eulogy
05-28-2014, 08:34 AM
Why isn't it happening. That's a better question I think.

bignothing
05-28-2014, 08:37 AM
right. what makes this such an impossibility? certainly any civilized society is able to reflect on its issues and demand change when needed?

sppunk
05-28-2014, 08:57 AM
Why isn't it happening. That's a better question I think.

The United States Constitution. The U.S. political structure.

It's a pipe dream. Australian gun control would be great. But it's impractical to pretend that's happening here. It wastes resources that could be spent going after reachable gains.

Eulogy
05-28-2014, 09:42 AM
We tried that last time and got fucking nowhere.

Leftists need to stop placating the gun lobby. Either repeal the second amendment or work to install justices who can undo the damage done over the last forty years or whatever.

What do you consider a reachable gain? Limits on magazines? We tried that.

Bread Regal
05-28-2014, 09:47 AM
this conversation is so tiresome that it makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

Bread Regal
05-28-2014, 09:49 AM
why couldn't this kid have been romantically spurned by antonin scalia or clarence thomas.

would solve some problems. can't wait till those shitbags are dead.

Order 66
05-28-2014, 09:50 AM
i love those guys

sppunk
05-28-2014, 10:44 AM
We tried that last time and got fucking nowhere.

Leftists need to stop placating the gun lobby. Either repeal the second amendment or work to install justices who can undo the damage done over the last forty years or whatever.

What do you consider a reachable gain? Limits on magazines? We tried that.

Cutting access to anyone with mental health issues would be a nice start. Repeal the 2nd Amendment? Seriously?

Locking up mental health patients (and not letting them dictate their own treatment) would be good too but that's police state level stuff.

Eulogy
05-28-2014, 10:50 AM
so repealing the second amendment is a joke but completely ignoring the fourth in order to lock up anyone with a mental illness (????) is "good"

like, what

wait not the fourth amendment. you know what i mean though. just arresting people for being sick is weirder than saying you don't have unlimited rights to guns.

sppunk
05-28-2014, 12:01 PM
And both are untouchable, right.

The truth is mass mutters are so fe and far between they shouldn't be the focus. Every day biokkebt crime in inner city Anerica should be the focus. Every day 40+ people are murdeted in America.

It's a societal failure that has to be fixed, and mass shootings are so rare it's IMO not where one should focus on said fix.

pavementtune
05-28-2014, 12:07 PM
Locking up mental health patients (and not letting them dictate their own treatment) would be good too but that's police state level stuff.

are you serious, I really can't tell

Order 66
05-28-2014, 12:16 PM
you can argue we already do "lock up" the mentally ill, under certain parameters. you can be involuntarily committed

sppunk
05-28-2014, 12:23 PM
are you serious, I really can't tell

Yes I'm serious it'd lower the number of mass shootings. No I'm not serious that should be done.

Eulogy
05-28-2014, 12:36 PM
Mass murders are rare only if you have an incredibly fucked up view of how often to expect mass shootings.

duovamp
05-28-2014, 12:46 PM
The United States Constitution. The U.S. political structure.

It's a pipe dream. Australian gun control would be great. But it's impractical to pretend that's happening here. It wastes resources that could be spent going after reachable gains.

Wrong. Money is why. The Constitution is just conveniently interpreted accordingly.

Trotskilicious
05-28-2014, 01:26 PM
Exactly, it has more to do with dc vs heller than it does with a sentence written in the us constitution

The Omega Concern
05-28-2014, 08:16 PM
is there a specific mental illness that gives a boarder a free pass to hijack threads? Or does someone simply need to troll harder than anybody else?

The police scanner of the Santa Barbara incident clearly states an officer claiming 2 subjects in custody. Care to explain that discrepancy from the official narrative Mr. Shill? Or are you and trots gonna circle jerk together thinking I'm mentally ill when in reality your just intellectual cowards. That's as far as I'll go claiming you anything really...beyond that, don't give a shit. You claiming what you think you know of me, smells like fear. whatever dude, go fuck yourself though.

sppunk
05-28-2014, 08:26 PM
Yes let's trust police scanners immediately during the chaos of a disaster/emergency response.

Might as well interview eyewitnesses of airplane crashes. Both are as perfect as source.

The exploding boy
05-28-2014, 08:30 PM
The police scanner of the Santa Barbara incident clearly states an officer claiming 2 subjects in custody. Care to explain that discrepancy from the official narrative Mr. Shill? Or are you and trots gonna circle jerk together thinking I'm mentally ill when in reality your just intellectual cowards. That's as far as I'll go claiming you anything really...beyond that, don't give a shit. You claiming what you think you know of me, smells like fear. whatever dude, go fuck yourself though.


Could it potentially maybe be that there was some confusion at some point and either 1 - it wasn't reported correctly on the police radio or 2 - they had people in custody who turned out to be NOT the shooter. A suspect is exactly that a SUSPECT. And there's no real reason why the cops would have felt it necessary to report that at some point they had in custody two people who didn't end up being the shooter (especially if they maybe so happened to be black males... I mean that because it would look like racial profiling and they'd probably want to omit mentioning the thing at all).

For all we know the "suspects" were people that had been shot at, You might have seen it in police interventions, sometimes the victims get initially apprehended because when cops walk into a situation, especially one involving shooters, they don't really 100% know what the fuck is going on so they play it safe.

The Omega Concern
05-28-2014, 08:33 PM
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Once again, since no one has commented on it yet, but is the clearest evidence yet of major league shenanigans, at 4:23 of the police radio communication of this Santa Barbara event an officer clearly states BOTH subjects are in custody. The dispatcher repeats that and its mentioned again a few minutes later.


So, some questions need to be asked. Who is the other person and did Eliot Roger die in custody? As was the case in Aurora and Sandy Hoax however, other suspected gunmen besides who the media latched on to to blame magically disappear from the storyline despite either eyewitness testimony or the radio feeds like here.


But if y'all still wish explore certain arguments surrounding this event like gun rights and shy guys who have been scorned and what to do about it, well then, you're falling into the trap of the psy-op. I sympathize. been there, done that.

The Omega Concern
05-28-2014, 08:35 PM
Yes let's trust police scanners immediately during the chaos of a disaster/emergency response.

Might as well interview eyewitnesses of airplane crashes. Both are as perfect as source.



its unfiltered. and cops may be many things, but they can't be blind. "BOTH subjects in custody" is pretty explicit.

The exploding boy
05-28-2014, 08:44 PM
Its amazing to me that you would see conspiracy in a simple mass shooting by some nerd who left plenty of evidence as to what he was about to do..

you do realise that for conspiracies to work they require the cooperation of everyone involved? do you honestly think that anyone but you is ok with being a willing part of a conspiracy/ cover up? Or you probably think the government can make any of those unwilling to cooperate disappear at the flick of a switch and no one will ever be able to say anything. I would tell you you need a therapist right now but of course you'd be convinced anything you tell them will get you to be disappeared. If nothing else, strong meds though. I'm interested, do you have a social life? friends? job? Wife, gf? I only have half of these myself so I'm not passing judgment but I find it hard to believe a conspiracy theorist could have any life.

Order 66
05-28-2014, 08:48 PM
sigh

The Omega Concern
05-28-2014, 08:58 PM
Could it potentially maybe be that there was some confusion at some point and either 1 - it wasn't reported correctly on the police radio or 2 - they had people in custody who turned out to be NOT the shooter. A suspect is exactly that a SUSPECT. And there's no real reason why the cops would have felt it necessary to report that at some point they had in custody two people who didn't end up being the shooter (especially if they maybe so happened to be black males... I mean that because it would look like racial profiling and they'd probably want to omit mentioning the thing at all).

For all we know the "suspects" were people that had been shot at, You might have seen it in police interventions, sometimes the victims get initially apprehended because when cops walk into a situation, especially one involving shooters, they don't really 100% know what the fuck is going on so they play it safe.

The cop mentions he was at the crash scene of the BMW. It's fair to speculate he meant both subjects are in the car, one of which would be Roger. Doesn't prove anything, but I've heard the whole radio scan and later they do mention the suspect has been shot and then later that all suspects are in custody.


fuzzy, I admit. But its fair to speculate. If such speculation gets labeled as mental illness, well, welcome to the Soviet Union, the way the shill commie scotty would like it. to silence me. that's what commies try to do.