View Full Version : Anyone know the status of the memoirs?


tweedyburd
08-31-2013, 08:30 AM
Kinda forgot about this, but looks like it was supposed to be published by St. Martin press over a year ago.

Monte, anyone?

Hopefully this doesn't go the way of nearly everything else that never gets completed...

Ram27
08-31-2013, 08:53 AM
It's packaged with the Metro show DVD and Zwan studio extras and D'arcy sextape.

MonteLDS
08-31-2013, 09:30 AM
i asked him about this
http://www.crestfallen.com/2013/08/30/billy-corgan-concludes-our-exclusive-interview-by-saying-nothing-would-make-me-happier-to-be-fully-engaged-in-musical-life/
4:27

i am paraphrasing here but he said he will pick it back up in a few weeks after the tour. but it will only come out if it is of worth in his eyes

Kahlo
08-31-2013, 10:00 AM
so never then.

TuralyonW3
08-31-2013, 10:59 AM
so never then.

.

Rider
08-31-2013, 11:30 AM
Wait Billy announced something that never happened. Wow that's not like him.

tweedyburd
08-31-2013, 06:24 PM
Christ, really?

Shouldn't be surprised, but what a massive waste of time...

That and the Metro DVD is really the only thing left I care to experience with him/this band, and it sounds like it'll never happen...

:mad:

scottytheoneand
08-31-2013, 08:37 PM
maybe the homophobic super fan could publish it on his blog

Kahlo
09-01-2013, 04:30 AM
only if you contribute to the homophobic super fan's blog again.

Starla
09-01-2013, 05:24 AM
http://www.crestfallen.com/2013/08/30/billy-corgan-concludes-our-exclusive-interview-by-saying-nothing-would-make-me-happier-to-be-fully-engaged-in-musical-life/
4:27



and his ideas on how to get people engaged with music again.

Why does he think people are not engaged with music now?

Kahlo
09-01-2013, 05:57 AM
maybe he has seen people falling asleep when they play the Oceania part of the set?

jimmy drevpile
09-01-2013, 12:10 PM
^

Kahlo
09-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Is there anyone in the world who hates MB more than you Mr Drevpile?

jimmy drevpile
09-01-2013, 01:05 PM
Deep down, Billy does

Kahlo
09-01-2013, 01:08 PM
You hope. HARD.

jimmy drevpile
09-01-2013, 01:18 PM
:(

Ram27
09-01-2013, 01:33 PM
Even if he fires Mike Jimmy won't come back

Kahlo
09-01-2013, 02:47 PM
Not unless SP makes that jazz fusion record that they should have made in 2007 instead of dull as ditchwater 'is this what you want? I think this is sort of what you want' 'rock'.

Cool As Ice Cream
09-02-2013, 02:11 AM
i don't want no jazz fusion either though

Trotskilicious
09-02-2013, 02:39 AM
did someone say jazz fusion?

<img src="http://cs316725.vk.me/v316725352/49b5/4Anv6gTw0CU.jpg">

Cool As Ice Cream
09-02-2013, 02:49 AM
i don't think so!

Spira|_
09-02-2013, 06:28 PM
Leave the jazz for the elevators pls.

slunken
09-06-2013, 09:52 PM
I really wanted to read this book

RenewRevive
09-07-2013, 02:08 AM
Why does he think people are not engaged with music now?

because they aren't listening to his music and he has no clue how to change this.

maybe he has seen people falling asleep when they play the Oceania part of the set?

nah. I was pissed that I missed the UK leg until I realized they weren't playing the whole of Oceania. not saying it's SP1 calibre, but it's still a good record on its own merits and the songs I heard performed live last time around came off well. I'd much rather hear anything off Oceania than hear Billy play an uninspired Bullet again.

the OP: any. minute. now.

pavementtune
06-17-2014, 01:45 PM
Hello friends, a short status update on my book-in-progress, ‘GOD IS EVERYWHERE FROM HERE TO THERE.’

A few days prior I crossed the 200,000 word threshold, convinced that the midway point of said opus had been reached. But this was not so, as only 5 of 12 intended sections have been covered. Had I forgotten to count? No, it was just that section 5 was so long and intense an experience to spin-out that it *felt like a conclusion of sorts. So all this means is that I’m only a few weeks behind, and intend to make the correct (and anticipated) announcement 4 weeks hence.

General indications are that the book will eventually clock in at a half million words. Too many I say; but sadly, never enough.

W.P.C.


older post
For those that don’t know, the book is set as a spiritual memoir, and is a dream-like take on one person’s journey through temporal life. What it is not is a celebrity tale.

Ostensibly each section breaks down into sub-sections, and in the case of Part 1, totaled 3 in all. While the narrative is somewhat linear, time is treated for what it really is: an illusion; and memory: our own myth.

Trotskilicious
06-17-2014, 01:50 PM
fuck you bill corgan and your bullshit about god

IAMTHEDOORWAY
06-17-2014, 02:06 PM
fuck you bill corgan and your bullshit about god

Hey man we all experience god in different way man just like breathe in and out and align your own personal stars and maybe let go of some of that Anger that is destroying your Soul; to wit, only endless miles of amber chords from the throats of glass hummingbirds will change pie in the sky Delusions. Rob not those fortunate enough to have a connection with otherness!!

scottytheoneand
06-17-2014, 02:43 PM
there is no god. there is no heaven. billy is crazy.

Ram27
06-17-2014, 08:22 PM
gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme NOTHING

Trotskilicious
06-17-2014, 08:23 PM
<i>Ramblings of a Self-Important Man: The Billy Corgan Chronicles</I>

Funbags
06-17-2014, 09:17 PM
Audiobook narrated by Morgan Freeman.

null123
06-17-2014, 10:14 PM
his memoirs were pretty interesting

Trotskilicious
06-17-2014, 10:49 PM
morgan freeman?

slunken
06-18-2014, 09:26 PM
<i>Ramblings of a Self-Important Man: The Billy Corgan Chronicles</I>

Everything From Here To Nowhere

Trotskilicious
06-18-2014, 09:30 PM
<I>A Confederacy of Dunces</I>

slunken
06-18-2014, 09:45 PM
Tales From The Ice Cream Man

slunken
06-18-2014, 09:46 PM
Radio: Played My Favorite Song

reprise85
06-18-2014, 10:03 PM
You're All Whores And I'm A Fag: The Billy Corgan Story

Trotskilicious
06-18-2014, 10:09 PM
<I>My Girlfriend Was a Dominatrix: Know What I Mean?</I>

Butt Pope
06-18-2014, 11:20 PM
<I>James is a piece of shit, Darcy is a mean spirited drug addict, and Jimmy will drive around in a white van the rest of his career: The Billy Corgan Story</I>

Butt Pope
06-18-2014, 11:21 PM
<I>He/She? Whatever. I'll sue you.</I>

juliana
06-18-2014, 11:36 PM
Tales of a forty something nothing

Billford the big red arm

1994

T&T
06-19-2014, 12:49 AM
<I>He/She? Whatever. I'll sue you.</I>
with the memoirs we'll finally get the real story!

do you think he'll be even more revealing with his trans-phobia, or is he going to re-write history & paint himself riotous in every situation?

Trotskilicious
06-19-2014, 12:51 AM
i think he's going to write some kind of completely vague bullshit with a lot of words he doesn't understand and some of you guys will argue over whether it fits into your narrative or not

i mean based on what i've read so far i really can't wait for him to print this

darby
06-19-2014, 12:59 AM
maybe he will give netphoria a shoutout

darby
06-19-2014, 12:59 AM
do you think he'll use pseudonyms for some people?

null123
06-19-2014, 02:30 AM
omg billford the big red arm

Cool As Ice Cream
06-19-2014, 02:39 AM
do you think he'll limit the first pressing of his spiritual book to 250 signed and numbered copies, in an attempt to sell any? will it be for sale on the website of his teashop?

T&T
06-19-2014, 06:30 AM
is anyone even going to bother making a digital version for us to pirate?

Cool As Ice Cream
06-19-2014, 06:40 AM
if someone does, is anyone even going to bother reading the digital version?

T&T
06-19-2014, 07:37 AM
if someone does, is anyone even going to bother reading the digital version?
not me.
I'm just going to stick around the thread to read the highlights.

darby
06-19-2014, 09:26 AM
i hope he writes about his cats

darby
06-19-2014, 09:26 AM
and tila tequila

Cool As Ice Cream
06-19-2014, 09:27 AM
didn't he say it wasn't going to be about the band etc.?

maybe he'll add some of that anyway, to sell more copies.

darby
06-19-2014, 09:29 AM
do you think ex-members will sue for slander and libel

do you think ex-members will even bother reading it

darby
06-19-2014, 09:29 AM
didn't he say it wasn't going to be about the band etc.?

maybe he'll add some of that anyway, to sell more copies.

i fucking hope so

darby
06-19-2014, 09:30 AM
do you think he'll copy and paste his confessions

Pizza Club
06-19-2014, 11:13 AM
half a fucking million words
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juliana
06-19-2014, 12:27 PM
James and the giant lawsuit

scottytheoneand
06-19-2014, 01:21 PM
i think he's going to write some kind of completely vague bullshit with a lot of words he doesn't understand and some of you guys will argue over whether it fits into your narrative or not

i mean based on what i've read so far i really can't wait for him to print this

i can't imagine the hell his editor is going through.

look at his live journal and imagine that someone trying to clean that up for publication.

themadcaplaughs
06-19-2014, 05:27 PM
Margin

themadcaplaughs
06-19-2014, 05:28 PM
i can't imagine the hell his editor is going through.

look at his live journal and imagine that someone trying to clean that up for publication.

The thought of Billy Corgan going through the editing process is a hysterical one. Both popular authors like Stephen King and James Patterson and more "literary" authors have all complained about the brutality of the editing process and how it makes one wish he'd never written a word at all.

There was someone on the O-Board (I believe) who mentioned they were charged with proofreading Billy's posts on Everything From Here To There, and that his predecessor (the guy who proofread all of Billy's blog posts on the old Web site) and the guy before him both quit the job in rage because of how pissy Corgan got at even the slightest edit. Apparently when they'd try to edit things like Billy using an ellipses instead of a period, or using some purposefully "artful" spelling of a common word (like spelling oranges "oranjes") he'd freak. The guy on the oboard said he eventually realized the best way to "edit" Billy's writing was to do nothing at all.

So, no sane publishing company is going to release a book written in the style Corgan writes, and will probably completely overhaul his language before publishing it. If Billy hasn't already signed a contract saying they can do whatever they want to his book, he'll refuse to hand over a final copy and the book will never get released. If it does, I am willing to bet we'll hear all about how he is not happy with it.

scottytheoneand
06-19-2014, 06:27 PM
Well fuck. If someone posted that on the o board it must be true

juliana
06-19-2014, 06:30 PM
It's true. The source is legit.

Shallowed
06-20-2014, 02:42 AM
It's totally clear that Monte should be the editor

juliana
06-20-2014, 07:35 AM
If Monte was editor, more would buy the book. The book cover should have a sticker that states "now with 50% more monte"

Cool As Ice Cream
06-20-2014, 08:02 AM
*monty

Cool As Ice Cream
06-20-2014, 08:02 AM
learn how to right, pepole!

Trotskilicious
06-20-2014, 08:39 AM
i can't imagine the hell his editor is going through.

look at his live journal and imagine that someone trying to clean that up for publication.

it's one constant instance of

<img src="http://guychurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/youkeepusingthatword.jpg">

pavementtune
08-15-2014, 02:30 PM
C: In the spirit of over explaining, how is your memoir coming along?

Today is fortuitous, Iím at the half-way point today. I think Iím currently at 265,000 words. As a writer, youíll understand what that means.
Yeah, itís my whole life and itís kind of told like a dream. I start from the assumption that nothing is real, that memory is flawed, and that life is a dream so itís represented as such. Itís not written in dream language, itís only represented as Iím going from whatever I recall processed through whatever version of myself I was in at the time. So in that way itís fiction. Itís broken into four sections and itís not written linearly, so itís like chunks of time zero to four, thatís one section. So of everything I want to talk about Iím halfway done. As you can imagine thatís 265,000 words at halfway, thatís unedited. At the end of the day when you edit it down the book is going to be somewhere near half a million words. Itís just insane.

C: Going back to your memoir, what has the process of reflecting on your past experiences been like? Pinpointing the pivotal and trivial moments.

Honestly itís been really hard on me. I wonít lie about that. Ultimately itís very easy to write a book that says, ďHey you, you did this and then this happened.Ē Itís another thing to write a book that has to do with accountability. I would say that 90% of the bad things that have happened to me in my life are my fault, or my responsibility, or I didnít have enough courage or strength to walk out of the room when bad thing number 800 was happening. In fact, I was writing about something like that today.

Iím trying to write a spiritual book, and if youíre going to be spiritual you have to be accountable. To be accountable means you have to be willing to look at yourself in a way thatís usually fairly uncomfortable.

Itís very easy for me to now talk about the Ď90s within the context of my ambition, which was limitless. Of course I could go into the psychology of what fed my ambition, which was a very Pollyanna childish belief that if I was famous I would stop feeling so bad about myself or something. In essence, fame was going to solve my problems. Of course I got fame, realized it wasnít going to solve my problems and then I went really crazy, which is well documented. Thatís easy for me to talk about now because Iíve had time to reflect on that process and Iíve had to reflect on that process in order to have Smashing Pumpkins in 2014, and not be a victim, and not moan about the old days which is unattractive. Then thereís all sorts of things in my life that nobody knows anything about, particularly when it comes to all sorts of excesses. In order to put all the other things in context I have to talk about those things, and of course that gets into a lot of territory thatís very in the shadows.


http://chicagoist.com/2014/08/15/interview_billy_corgan.php

workingdogv1
08-15-2014, 04:39 PM
http://chicagoist.com/2014/08/15/interview_billy_corgan.php

Sooo. a 530,000 word memoir? :erm:

To put that in perspective, the English translation of War and Peace is around ~561,00 words.

Even broken out into five volumes, godspeed on selling that one. Nothing is impossible in publishing these days, but that's one hell of a mountain to climb.

slunken
08-15-2014, 04:49 PM
http://chicagoist.com/2014/08/15/interview_billy_corgan.php

This is going to be a phenomenal book.

slunken
08-15-2014, 04:50 PM
Iím trying to write a spiritual book, and if youíre going to be spiritual you have to be accountable. To be accountable means you have to be willing to look at yourself in a way thatís usually fairly uncomfortable.

In essence, fame was going to solve my problems. Of course I got fame, realized it wasnít going to solve my problems and then I went really crazy, which is well documented.

Then thereís all sorts of things in my life that nobody knows anything about, particularly when it comes to all sorts of excesses.

fuck yes

reprise85
08-15-2014, 05:07 PM
nice. tell us how much blow you did and how many fanboys you fucked

Poots
08-15-2014, 07:06 PM
I'm sitting here trying to figure out how much 530,000 words is. The biggest book, actually six books, that I own is Churchill's The Second World War. Using gorilla math, I estimate that it has 1.2 million words. This is one of the most comprehensive books about one of the biggest events in the history of the world. Billy's book about his life will be almost half as long.

slunken
08-15-2014, 07:47 PM
Itís not written in dream language, itís only represented as Iím going from whatever I recall processed through whatever version of myself I was in at the time.

its the only explanation i can think of.

slunken
08-15-2014, 07:48 PM
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/slunken_2007/SP%20LOL/A2otS-ZCQAApnJW_zps6e421ae2.jpg (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/slunken_2007/media/SP%20LOL/A2otS-ZCQAApnJW_zps6e421ae2.jpg.html)

just something to think about

Shallowed
08-15-2014, 08:16 PM
The most interesting thing there to me is how he said that 90% of the bad things that happened in his life were his fault. It's definitely not like him to say something like that.

Half a million words is stupidly ridiculous, but this is the guy that fumbles with ancient wall-to-wall synthesisers for eight hours in his tea shop. It wouldn't just wouldn't be right if he didn't approach this by taking his self-indulgence to the nth degree.