is there an audio archive for the pumpkins still?
is the hub still up
is the ftp?
archive.com and zomb aren't quite cutting it

what i'm really looking for in particular is the zwan premasters in flac and some of the "hideout" shows that relatively recently leaked out

would someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction?

and thank you!!!!

Hideout is on zomb and the archive is dot org not com

Zwan pre masters are in the blamo archive I think. Google search for that. I think hideout may be there too.

archive.org is legal.

What are the Zwan pre-masters and what is the blamo archive?

Also is Billy going to re-release MSotS or something? It seems like they recorded a lot of good extra songs, it'd be a shame for all of those to go to waste.

What are the Zwan pre-masters and what is the blamo archive?

Also is Billy going to re-release MSotS or something? It seems like they recorded a lot of good extra songs, it'd be a shame for all of those to go to waste.

last time i heard anything about the Zwan stuff
http://www.crestfallen.com/2012/12/24/crestfallen-com-end-of-the-year-interview-with-billy-corgan-part-1/

the last audio clip

This is the first time I've heard of Zwan premasters. Is it of MSOTS?

Zwan Rough Mixes

1. Yeah
2. Lyric
3. Ride a Black Swan
4. Honestly
5. Baby Let's Rock
6. Endless Summer


Zwan Pre-Masters

1. Lyric
2. Yeah
3. Endless Summer
4. Honestly
5. Settle Down
6. Ride a Black Swan
7. Desire
8. Baby Let's Rock

Someone gave me 14.2 MB last night and disappeared.
ಠ_ಠ

http://i.imgur.com/RHrbLnp.png

last time i heard anything about the Zwan stuff
http://www.crestfallen.com/2012/12/24/crestfallen-com-end-of-the-year-interview-with-billy-corgan-part-1/

the last audio clip

I wish Billy was this upfront and honest in all his interviews, rather than the persona we usually get.

Zwan Rough Mixes

1. Yeah
2. Lyric
3. Ride a Black Swan
4. Honestly
5. Baby Let's Rock
6. Endless Summer


Zwan Pre-Masters

1. Lyric
2. Yeah
3. Endless Summer
4. Honestly
5. Settle Down
6. Ride a Black Swan
7. Desire
8. Baby Let's Rock

Are these recently released or something?

last time i heard anything about the Zwan stuff
http://www.crestfallen.com/2012/12/24/crestfallen-com-end-of-the-year-interview-with-billy-corgan-part-1/

the last audio clip

Why does everything on the internet have to be multimedia? I'm so lazy. I just want to skim an article. Life is so hard.

is there an audio archive for the pumpkins still?
is the hub still up
is the ftp?
archive.com and zomb aren't quite cutting it

Yeah because 956 uploads just ain't cuttin it anymore.

Zwan pre masters are in the blamo archive I think. Google search for that. I think hideout may be there too.

Blamo is no more.

The archive wasn't hosted there

Are these recently released or something?

no. this was years and years ago.

The archive wasn't hosted there

Zwan: http://www.mediafire.com/?5aiqx1xz3596w

Zwan
Rough Mixes
http://www.mediafire.com/?tvl1jkioz3n01
Pre-Masters
http://www.mediafire.com/?2n596bj41a1f5

Wow thanks. I've never heard these.

Even thought they're transcodes...

Those sound gorgeous, thank you.

Zwan
Rough Mixes
http://www.mediafire.com/?tvl1jkioz3n01
Pre-Masters
http://www.mediafire.com/?2n596bj41a1f5

Thanks a lot! Sounds great!

Dynamic Range (Pre-Masters) >>>

DR Peak RMS Filename
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR11 -0.00 dB -11.99 dB 01 - Lyric.aiff
DR12 -0.00 dB -14.73 dB 02 - Yeah.aiff
DR11 -0.00 dB -12.60 dB 03 - Endless Summer.aiff
DR11 -0.30 dB -13.66 dB 04 - Honestly.aiff
DR12 -1.38 dB -15.60 dB 05 - Settle Down.aiff
DR11 -1.47 dB -15.16 dB 06 - Ride a Black Swan.aiff
DR11 -1.02 dB -16.05 dB 07 - Desire.aiff
DR11 -0.00 dB -12.84 dB 08 - Baby Lets Rock.aiff
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of files: 8
Official DR value: DR11

================================================== ============================================


Dynamic Range (Rough Mixes) >>>


DR Peak RMS Filename
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR14 -0.46 dB -16.67 dB 01 - Yeah.aiff
DR13 -1.93 dB -16.30 dB 02 - Lyric.aiff
DR12 -0.00 dB -12.91 dB 03 - Ride a Black Swan.aiff
DR12 -0.00 dB -13.35 dB 04 - Honestly.aiff
DR13 -0.00 dB -14.77 dB 05 - Baby Lets Rock.aiff
DR13 -0.00 dB -13.96 dB 06 - Endless Summer.aiff
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of files: 6
Official DR value: DR13

================================================== ============================================

Official DR value: DR11

ooh! it's official.

ooh! it's official.

...;)
Yep...

By the way...the program is called "TT DR Offline Meter 1.1" .

@remd3

Please post the rough mixes of "Settle Down" and "Desire" if you can find them.

@remd3

Please post the rough mixes of "Settle Down" and "Desire" if you can find them.

why would he all of a sudden be able to find those?
the six and eight tracks are what's out there.

and what about the other album tracks? should he post the premasters and rough mixes of those tracks too, if he can find them?
no idea why you'd only ask for two random tracks, but not the rest. i mean, if you're going to ask for stuff that isn't out there, why limit yourself to those two?

what a strange album.

These sound good. Thanks for unearthing them, remd3.

What's the source/context of these recordings?

These sound good. Thanks for unearthing them, remd3.

What's the source/context of these recordings?

I don't really remember where I got them it has been so long, all I can tell you is that they've been out since at least June of 2008 because I got them the same day I got Married.

and sorry it took me so long guys they were on a disc but couldn't remember which one :P

Can we get an actual lossless instead of lossy transcodes please?

sorry but those flacs are the original files that I downloaded, they are the best I've got.

I don't really remember where I got them it has been so long, all I can tell you is that they've been out since at least June of 2008 because I got them the same day I got Married.

they've circulated since shortly after the album was released and the shitstorm about the mastering occurred. Rider or Dead may be able to provide some more context

I don't really remember where I got them it has been so long, all I can tell you is that they've been out since at least June of 2008 because I got them the same day I got Married.
I just want to say that I love that you were downloading Zwan bootlegs on the day of your wedding. That is monte-level dedication.

I just checked when I last got the pre-masters and the rough mixes from netphoria: the file names change date is Feb 26th, 2005. They didn't come with any info or source file, or I would have kept that. The file names are zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-txx.flac and zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-txx.flac.