this is an all-time grumpy bastard milestone for me, i think

"[Sleeping Giant] pulverize all preconceived notions of worship music." [blurb (http://www.undertheradar.co.nz/tour/2521/Sleeping-Giant-Saving-Grace-and-The-Ember-Days.utr)]

yeah well jesus may not have work in the morning but i do

The dual vocal stylings of husband and wife combo Jason and Janell Belcher

Heh.

Fuck, I hate Christian rock

Yeah I know how you mean. I work at a hotel that has two giant conference centers. We have contracts with three different churches: white people church, black people church and island people church. Generally speaking - no problems. Afterall I work security, what kind of problems can really arise from groups of worship, right?

White church (Sheperd's Will):: no problems, I don't even see these assholes. They do worship at like what? 6am? Dicks. But no problems.

Black church (New Upper Zion): Later in the day, still don't see them. Gone and done praying to the lord before 4pm (nice cars)

Island church (Full Gospel): Dicks. Straight up cunts. New Upper Zion actually had to move to another building because these fucks would worship so loud that they couldn't hear their own praise. And I actually had to go into to their session and tell them to turn it down. Yeah, they were all cool until I left and put it even louder than before. Ultimately it ended in a battle of seething language between my bosd and them. And that was like seven months ago. One time I watched their kids hurl a football into a benz from another group and they got all aggro when I told them to go inside. Like, wtf? Religion my ass.

you can hear the call to prayer pretty much anywhere in the city, 6 times a day. at home it's not so bad but at work we're so close to the mosque that if we're out having a smoke on the balcony, we have to stop our conversation till its over.

But do the holy people win the battle at the end Zach? ???????

with gusto??????????????

i don't care that they're christian i just wish they'd shut up

You're doing God's work.

But do the holy people win the battle at the end Zach? ???????

yes. praise allah.

i don't care that they're christian i just wish they'd shut up

Stink bombs are promoted and sold reasonably dude

It's usually the shittiest musicians that make the most noise. My church sings hymns accompanied by organ. last sunday I played the organ myself! You could have made plenty of complaints about my playing but probably not about the volume.

i'm almost offended by talk about an "island church" but my mother who is a full blooded, born-in-Samoa-Samoan, hates island churches, never took us, told us churches were horrible places that took your money and you didn't need to go to one to be a Christian. I like hearing Islanders sing but yeah I'm not really into the church.

You know, thinking about it incredibly awful smells could be effective crowd control. They should use it for bank robberies.

in boston i lived next door to a black Episcopal church. i got used to the bells every hour and on the weekends they had a group that played steel drums. i loved it.

Steel drumming for Jesus.

Fuck loud-ass churches.

yeah these were christian metal bands. over three hours of amplified double-kick for jesus

late night choral music would be kinda nice

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Phonic Chonny,

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<3

Phonic Chonny,

He's my cousin

White church (Sheperd's Will):

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churches were horrible places that took your money

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My church gets noise complaints from a neighbour - not because you can hear the service from outside but from when we all go to our cars afterwards.

The same neighbour cranks up metal every week when we're arriving...

after i graduated college i lived above this place called the lord's gym for about a year. it was a baptist themed hardcore gym that i believe also catered to ex-addicts. at least everyone who i talked to had a really checkered past (though that was all behind them now). anyway beyond the constant weightlifting mixed with praise on sundays they would have sessions in the courtyard where the guys would do feats of strength as testament to their worship, the sort of things you would see on tv like ripping phone books in half and breaking cinder blocks and such. i worked until 4 in the morning on sundays so i was usually still up while all this was happening but on the days i was trying to sleep it was a disaster.

tl;dr - i once wanted a church to keep it down

I'm at my friend's house killing time waiting for him to wake up. I don't know why, but I'm watching Religious Programming on TV. It's a less infuriating background distraction than the pop music video channel.

lol religion is less offensive than pop music

are you fuckin serious

It's funnier sometimes, at least.

nobody kills people for pop music

so yeah i can see how "funny" it is

Pop music has already killed us all.

after i graduated college i lived above this place called the lord's gym for about a year. it was a baptist themed hardcore gym that i believe also catered to ex-addicts. at least everyone who i talked to had a really checkered past (though that was all behind them now). anyway beyond the constant weightlifting mixed with praise on sundays they would have sessions in the courtyard where the guys would do feats of strength as testament to their worship, the sort of things you would see on tv like ripping phone books in half and breaking cinder blocks and such. i worked until 4 in the morning on sundays so i was usually still up while all this was happening but on the days i was trying to sleep it was a disaster.

tl;dr - i once wanted a church to keep it down

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I didn't know this was a real thing

nobody kills people for pop music

so yeah i can see how "funny" it is

Islamic terrorists only bombed the U.S. because of the sluts in the pop music videos though, so...you know it's a chicken and egg thing.

after i graduated college i lived above this place called the lord's gym for about a year. it was a baptist themed hardcore gym that i believe also catered to ex-addicts. at least everyone who i talked to had a really checkered past (though that was all behind them now). anyway beyond the constant weightlifting mixed with praise on sundays they would have sessions in the courtyard where the guys would do feats of strength as testament to their worship, the sort of things you would see on tv like ripping phone books in half and breaking cinder blocks and such. i worked until 4 in the morning on sundays so i was usually still up while all this was happening but on the days i was trying to sleep it was a disaster.

tl;dr - i once wanted a church to keep it down

i worked with a guy who went to a "church" like this only they were into skateboarding instead. he was just a kid who happened to get a DWI but they convinced him he was some hardcore alcoholic and he had to repent or whatever. they really fucked him up in the head. he got so into it we fired him

Islamic terrorists only bombed the U.S. because of the sluts in the pop music videos though, so...you know it's a chicken and egg thing.

lol wut?
Serious or not - I can't tell.

just kidding.

everyone knows it's because they hate our freedom

They hate the females' freedom to be sluts is right

And the males' freedom to enjoy other males

So many freedoms they hate. Haters be hatin' because haters be jealous yo. Those jealous religious people!!

they are not free and they wish they were, so they terrorize us. if anything it makes too much sense.

These people sound alarmingly simple

nobody kills people for pop music

so yeah i can see how "funny" it is

I didn't see anyone getting killed. I might have had my head turned though.

deliberately missing the point or stupid, hard to tell with you

My memory is tricking me into thinking I recently saw a heated argument regarding "stupid"and "dumb". Must have been on some other board.

no it was this one you didn't seem to grasp what it was actually about though

You are right as always.

I have to learn the different standards for
"you say a lot of dumb things"
and
"or stupid, hard to tell with you."

But I might never grasp that either, so be patient with me.

it was actually about the methodology

either you're insulting for the sake of i dunno comedy, zingers, just being mean whatever. you can't be insulting for Great Justice.

deliberately missing the point or stupid, hard to tell with you

I'm as anti-religion as you are, but when I make a light-hearted joke about it, there's no need to be like that, you're just preaching to the choir.

I'm surprised you didn't pat Luke on the back for knocking people-killer-enablers down a peg.

people who think pop music is a war crime piss me the fuck off

Lol dude what, I was just saying that the program was less annoying.

it's not, it's infinitely more annoying because pop music doesn't necessarily foster the kind of ideals that religion does, which ******* racism, bigotry, homophobia, war, terror, guilt, etc

it's not fuckin funny okay?

you have to acknowledge there's at least some risk of murdering dozens in your sleep if you listen to enough black eyed peas though, right

i mean think about it, mk ultra 2 / haarp anyone?

just to b e clear this is exactly what i was watching as a kid

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this makes me pretty glad youtube didn't exist back then

I would rather watch religious tv than pop music videos. Pretty sure they'd use pop music over religious programming as a torture device in a POW camp.

it's not, it's infinitely more annoying because pop music doesn't necessarily foster the kind of ideals that religion does, which ******* racism, bigotry, homophobia, war, terror, guilt, etc

it's not fuckin funny okay?

Oh, I agree that's not funny at all. There was a lot of love and happiness and shit, the funny bit was that these people needed a God to believe in to have a motive for fostering any sort of good ideals.

There were plenty of bits that were genuinely inspiring, when they weren't relating it to God or Jesus.

just to b e clear this is exactly what i was watching as a kid

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I saw these fools live at a church when i was like 10. no lie. it was amazing