View Full Version : Machina II: In The Shade, A Spider Waits In Lies


warewolf95
01-27-2013, 07:42 PM
Anyone got any info about this bootleg?

Its a 2 disc set that seems to compile all the Machina II material

I got it online, but I cant find fucking ANYTHING about it anywhere. Not even spfc

:confused:

redbull
01-27-2013, 11:08 PM
Its a 2 disc set that seems to compile all the Machina II material

so its machina II?

Shallowed
01-27-2013, 11:49 PM
^

:scratching:

Future Boy
01-28-2013, 01:42 AM
sounds rare, ebay that fucker

Shallowed
01-28-2013, 01:53 AM
Sometimes bootlegs are so rare that they don't even exist, they usually sell for trillions.

warewolf95
01-28-2013, 08:21 AM
lol guys.

It does contain Machina II as most of disc II but disc I is all the alternates etc. of the tracks

The main reason im so damn curious about this thing is there is an actual track on it called

"In The Shade a Spider Waits In Lies"

I cant find mention of it anywhere and had never heard of it till I got this.

Its basically a 2 minute interlude in Machina II between Dross and Go of a repeating 3 chord progression, kinda slow, with all feedback and shit squealing about.

slunken
01-28-2013, 08:44 AM
Ransom ost tracks added?

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 08:51 AM
lol guys.

It does contain Machina II as most of disc II but disc I is all the alternates etc. of the tracks

The main reason im so damn curious about this thing is there is an actual track on it called

"In The Shade a Spider Waits In Lies"

I cant find mention of it anywhere and had never heard of it till I got this.

Its basically a 2 minute interlude in Machina II between Dross and Go of a repeating 3 chord progression, kinda slow, with all feedback and shit squealing about.

how about you upload the whole thing somewhere, so people can give it a listen? this might be the easiest way to some information.

warewolf95
01-28-2013, 08:57 AM
Ransom ost tracks added?

nope. As far as I can tell it is all legit Machina-related.

Im gonna try to upload it for ya guys

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 09:04 AM
aight!

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 09:07 AM
is this it?
https://soundcloud.com/craig-s-bartlett/intheshadeaspiderwaitsinlies

if so, that's not pumpkins, but this guy. he used to post on some sp boards, i remember his name.
possibly a track recorded to test/demonstrate his sp inspired set-up?
if i remember it correctly, he used to upload sp related compilations (e.g. remixes, originals of covers played by sp). but i might be wrong. this "spider" compilation could be one of them.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 09:08 AM
same guy, cover of doomsday clock on thepumpkins.net: http://thepumpkins.net/contests/57-zeitgeist-contest/709-contest-entry-doomsday-clock-cs-bartlett

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 09:10 AM
used to post/posts here as "union jack":
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=133052
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=117646

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 09:25 AM
might be interesting to have a look at back.jpg. it might have more info.
either way, this is clearly a fanmade compilation, with different stuff that's already out there, and the addition of a non-sp track.

http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost.php?p=3930029&postcount=73
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-01 Once Upon A Time (Demo).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-02 Crestfallen (Demo).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-03 Eye [Piano].mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-04 Saturnine.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-05 Autumn.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-06 The Sacred and Profane (Alt. Promo Mix).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-07 The Imploding Voice (Matt Walker's Exploding 2.0 Remix).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-08 Age of Innocence (Alt. Promo Mix).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-09 Glass' Theme.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-10 Cash Car Star (Ver.1).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-11 Dross.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-12 Blue Skies Bring Tears (Arising Version).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-13 If There Is A God.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-14 Here's to the Atom Bomb.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-15 Real Love.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-16 In My Body (Glass And The Machines Of God Remix).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-17 Sparrow.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-18 Winterlong.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-19 Soot and Stars.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 1-20 (Untitled Instrumental).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-01 Slow Dawn.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-02 Vanity.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-03 Satur9.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-04 Soul Power.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-05 Lucky 13.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-06 Speed Kills (But Beauty Lives Forever).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-07 If There Is A God [Piano & Vox].mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-08 Try [Alt. Version].mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-09 Glass' Theme.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-10 Cash Car Star.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-11 Dross.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-12 In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-13 Go.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-14 Age Of Innocence (Early Version).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-15 Let Me Give The World To You.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-16 Innosence.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-17 Home.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-18 Blue Skies Bring Tears [Version Electrique].mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-19 White Spider.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-20 In My Body.mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-21 If There Is A God [Full Band].mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-22 Le Duex Machina [Synth].mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ 2-23 Here's To The Atom Bomb (New Wave).mp3
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ Back.jpg
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ Front.jpg
D:\Music\Albert0.nl Smashing Pumpkins Rare and Unreleased\2001\Machina II In The Shade A Spider Waits In Lies\ Inside.jpg

slunken
01-28-2013, 10:31 AM
Alberto huh?

whywontyoulistn
01-28-2013, 10:47 AM
Alberto a.k.a. SPBOI420? "Let's take any old shit and rename it so it looks rare".

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 10:58 AM
alberto = spboi420???
where did you get that?

whywontyoulistn
01-28-2013, 10:59 AM
alberto = spboi420???
where did you get that?

I know they're not the same person, but they have a similar modus operandi.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 11:01 AM
i don't think alberto renames stuff. he just find stuff and uploads it. if anything's renamed, then someone else did it.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 11:13 AM
is this it?
https://soundcloud.com/craig-s-bartlett/intheshadeaspiderwaitsinlies
well, are you not going to answer the question? eh?

here's back.jpg:
http://i47.tinypic.com/20prjhl.jpg

T&T
01-28-2013, 11:24 AM
I don't have that matt walker remix of imploding voice!
is it any good?
anyone care for a FLAC upload?

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 11:28 AM
does a flac exist?

slunken
01-28-2013, 11:41 AM
lol true true

D.
01-28-2013, 11:57 AM
IIRC the SPBOI420 was my troll. I vaguely remember making some kind of SPBOI troll years ago.

warewolf95
01-28-2013, 12:52 PM
Sorry for not responding guys - ive been in school.

Anyways, yea thats the one.

So that title track is fanmade, eh? It actually works good as a segue between Dross and Go.

But, any info about some of the stuff on disc 1? Obviously Disc 2 is Machina II but a bit of disc 1 I havent heard anywhere else in the demos and all that ive got

Order 66
01-28-2013, 01:18 PM
what are you wearing

union jack
01-28-2013, 05:15 PM
does this thing actually contain my "music"? menthol...

Trotskilicious
01-28-2013, 07:19 PM
converge?

remd3
01-28-2013, 09:27 PM
HEY WTF, where the hell did you guys get that , thats something I made for my wife and yes I threw in the non sp track because she seems to like union jack's stuff , I shared the artwork with someone they must have uploaded the shit somewhere!!!!

TuralyonW3
01-28-2013, 09:44 PM
REALLY GAYZ?

remd3
01-28-2013, 09:45 PM
it wasn't meant for anyone else in fact it wasn't even the final product
this was:
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y326/remd3/back_zps0dc1d287.jpg

Trotskilicious
01-28-2013, 09:53 PM
man i really love those fire and water dudes, i wonder if i could get a newish shirt. i mean i still have my old one but obviously 13 years of wear and tear has not been entirely kind

Trotskilicious
01-28-2013, 09:54 PM
also sir your graphic design is far too busy

you have a kernel of a nice aesthetic in there, but you need to simplify sir.

remd3
01-28-2013, 10:01 PM
I kn ow exactly who uploaded it , I shared the artwork with a few people asking them how bad it sucked, but I only gave "Eye" to 1 person....

CrabbMan
01-28-2013, 10:03 PM
It almost seems like something happened.

remd3
01-28-2013, 10:03 PM
also sir your graphic design is far too busy

you have a kernel of a nice aesthetic in there, but you need to simplify sir.

how about this , this is what stays in my car.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y326/remd3/Front_zpsd927d199.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y326/remd3/MachinaIIBackFinalVersion_zpsd8139d39.jpg

pavementtune
01-28-2013, 10:34 PM
The font of the first one looks better for Pumpkins, imo.

T&T
01-28-2013, 10:39 PM
IIRC the SPBOI420 was my troll. I vaguely remember making some kind of SPBOI troll years ago.
I call BS.
i had chatted with him on limewire back in 1999 and there's no way he was a troll. he was definitely HIGH, and believed in what he was saying and didn't care if anyone saw or ~felt~ the music the way he understood it transcendentally. The way he was a topper would make for really poor trolling.

slunken
01-28-2013, 10:52 PM
how about this , this is what stays in my car.
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y326/remd3/Front_zpsd927d199.jpg
http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y326/remd3/MachinaIIBackFinalVersion_zpsd8139d39.jpg

this one is def better

slunken
01-28-2013, 10:52 PM
definitely

pavementtune
01-28-2013, 11:07 PM
Techno Trance
Vol.11

slunken
01-29-2013, 01:14 AM
shhh

stumpycat
01-30-2013, 12:08 AM
Techno Trance
Vol.11
hahahaha
THIS.

It's even like Chemical Brothers font FFS.

Woody
01-30-2013, 02:28 AM
Here's hoping the Machina re-issue will use the Machina 2 artwork. In layers of silver on black those fire and water dudes will look pretty cool.

brendo_91
02-01-2013, 08:43 PM
hahahaha
THIS.

It's even like Chemical Brothers font FFS.

its the font that was being used for the GATMOG stuff on screenblast isnt it?

brendo_91
02-01-2013, 08:43 PM
"ooooooh, future"

brendo_91
02-01-2013, 08:44 PM
"man, that belly kroeger from pumpkinback is so ahead of the (my life and) times"

D.
02-01-2013, 08:49 PM
I call BS.
i had chatted with him on limewire back in 1999 and there's no way he was a troll. he was definitely HIGH, and believed in what he was saying and didn't care if anyone saw or ~felt~ the music the way he understood it transcendentally. The way he was a topper would make for really poor trolling.
def wasn't me but i know i made a troll on here along the lines of SPBOI-something. I thought it was funny but looking back it probably wasn't.

stumpycat
02-01-2013, 11:11 PM
its the font that was being used for the GATMOG stuff on screenblast isnt it?

Oh yeah, I guess it was. Lame. Circa 2000 everyone was placing those fonts on everything. Official rave/techno/nu metal font.

They were wrong because we are officially living in the future NOW and we aren't even really trying.

glass85
12-31-2016, 07:55 AM
Autumn in this bootleg is made by that guy?

FoolofaTook
12-31-2016, 04:55 PM
Woah i just got it!! Its a spider waits in lies like a spider lies in wait.

so ironic!

Gooch
01-03-2017, 12:30 PM
Woah i just got it!! Its a spider waits in lies like a spider lies in wait.

so ironic!



BAM! Machina mystery solved. Whew. I can now move on with my life.

FoolofaTook
01-03-2017, 12:49 PM
Your welcome.

qwerty sp
01-03-2017, 05:14 PM
BAM! Machina mystery solved. Whew. I can now move on with my life.

Go visit a goatse

FUCKER

Ihaguitar
01-03-2017, 05:35 PM
I wish thy'd release machina 2 on CD or hi-res download.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-04-2017, 02:52 AM
DONT WORRY THEY WILL
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BUY IT IN MADAME ZUZUS ONLY 200 DOLLARS
LIMITED EDITION HI DEFINITION AUDIO DOWNLOAD NUMBERED AND SIGNED ON COLOURED BYTES
YOU WILL HAVE TO BUY 50 DOLLARS WORTH OF TEA WITH THAT THOUGH THIS IS THE ONLY WAY

qwerty sp
01-04-2017, 03:31 AM
I wish thy'd release machina 2 on CD or hi-res download.


Machina 2 is da bomb!

Blessings to its fans

FoolofaTook
01-04-2017, 07:15 AM
Hells yes. Home is top 5 tsp 4 sure.

Run To Me
01-04-2017, 09:01 AM
Plus Jimmy singing on "Go," his finest vocal moment for sure: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=144072
(:rofl:)

FoolofaTook
01-04-2017, 03:15 PM
Nah brah that's Jeff on Go. Can't you hear his diffident oriental tones?

IWishIWasBlank
01-14-2017, 08:25 AM
Once again, CAIC destroys the dreams of a newb.

How do you live with yourself?

might be interesting to have a look at back.jpg. it might have more info.
either way, this is clearly a fanmade compilation, with different stuff that's already out there, and the addition of a non-sp track.

http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost.php?p=3930029&postcount=73