View Full Version : Byrne's Biggest Blunders


dronestar
12-11-2012, 04:31 AM
One for the file:

https://twitter.com/MikeByrneDrums/status/247963497823076352/photo/1

Note creepy guy growing out of his shoulder.

T&T
12-11-2012, 04:44 AM
bear cubbin

scottytheoneand
12-11-2012, 08:51 AM
skysaw

soniclovenoize
12-11-2012, 09:18 AM
Are you going to have a Jimmy's Biggest Blunders too?

bs1933
12-11-2012, 09:40 AM
I feel bad his hair is thinning out earlier than Billy did. :(

dronestar
12-11-2012, 11:42 AM
tru dat

BurtSampson
12-11-2012, 12:03 PM
Are you going to have a Jimmy's Biggest Blunders too?

is there video footage of June 1996?

meangreensp
12-11-2012, 12:17 PM
is there video footage of June 1996?

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy oooooohhhhhhhhhh

Ram27
12-11-2012, 03:58 PM
Are you going to have a Jimmy's Biggest Blunders too?

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InISOY3ckEU&t=9m30s) is the only time I've seen Jimmy screw up besides the Cherub Rock thing and he hides it pretty well with the bass drum.

soniclovenoize
12-11-2012, 04:25 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InISOY3ckEU&t=9m30s) is the only time I've seen Jimmy screw up besides the Cherub Rock thing and he hides it pretty well with the bass drum.

I've also heard him fuck up Dross.

samuel redman
12-13-2012, 10:53 AM
he wrote Dross though

killtrocity
12-13-2012, 11:09 AM
srsly? ^

paranoid
12-13-2012, 02:53 PM
So am I to assume that this video is not going to get made? What a missed opportunity.

houseofglass11
12-13-2012, 03:07 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InISOY3ckEU&t=9m30s) is the only time I've seen Jimmy screw up besides the Cherub Rock thing and he hides it pretty well with the bass drum.

What did he screw up there? I don't hear it.

Future Boy
12-13-2012, 04:15 PM
@27:20

Future Boy
12-13-2012, 04:15 PM
its cringe worthy

amoergosum
12-13-2012, 05:10 PM
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soniclovenoize
12-13-2012, 05:41 PM
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OK that was pretty embarrassing.

But I still think you guys have put Jimmy so far up on a pedestal, that you've set yourselves up for disappointment no matter what happens, and the notion of "But but but this isn't Jimmy!!" has totally overshadowed any rational observations that this kid is a good drummer.

"OMG he's not playing it precisely like the greatest drummer of the 90s did, this kid fucking sucks what a blunder."

lucca
12-13-2012, 05:52 PM
what a blunder!

adamdanger!
12-13-2012, 06:39 PM
It's not that he doesn't play precisely like Jimmy. It's that he plays a fill precisely like Mike Tyson air drumming to Phil Collins.

soniclovenoize
12-13-2012, 06:49 PM
It's not that he doesn't play precisely like Jimmy. It's that he plays a fill precisely like Mike Tyson air drumming to Phil Collins.

I believe that you believe that.

Trotskilicious
12-13-2012, 07:30 PM
are we talking about david byrne?

killtrocity
12-13-2012, 07:39 PM
http://www.amctheatres.com/Media/Default/images/this-must-be-the-place-poster.jpg this is very nice film

Trotskilicious
12-13-2012, 08:08 PM
that song is a supermegajam

Trotskilicious
12-13-2012, 08:09 PM
david byrne's biggest blunder was to be such a nasty jerk to everyone in the talking heads

T&T
12-13-2012, 08:14 PM
is mike out of the closet yet
because then I would let me forgive all his blunders.

scottytheoneand
12-13-2012, 08:53 PM
Mike's in the band because billy can depend on him, he doesn't disappear on drug binges and the kid can play.

GLOWer
12-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Mike's in the band because billy can depend on him, he doesn't disappear on drug binges and the kid can play.

re: the binges i dont think thats been an issue since the 90s so thats a bit unfair. as far as mikes ability, he's not terrible like some people keep chanting. hes good. but hes also super malleable and young and billy loves that he owns him like he never could another drummer.

scottytheoneand
12-13-2012, 09:34 PM
My meaning is that if billy had to dip into the pool of established musicians have have to take on their baggage as well. He had those issues with everyone in the old band, everyone in Zwan. Something was obviously not clicking with the reformed band.

Mike played with him for a year after jimmy left (before Nicole joined the band). He got to trust the kid. And he obviously likes his playing or Mike wouldn't be there.

Implosion
12-13-2012, 10:08 PM
And he obviously likes his playing or Mike wouldn't be there.

I think Billy would rather play with a drummer he's not thrilled with than eat crow, honestly. I don't think Mike will survive past this next year (either the band will implode or he'll get replaced).

paranoid
12-13-2012, 10:16 PM
OK that was pretty embarrassing.

But I still think you guys have put Jimmy so far up on a pedestal, that you've set yourselves up for disappointment no matter what happens, and the notion of "But but but this isn't Jimmy!!" has totally overshadowed any rational observations that this kid is a good drummer.

"OMG he's not playing it precisely like the greatest drummer of the 90s did, this kid fucking sucks what a blunder."

Show me 10 examples of jimmy fucking up to a completely embarrassing level. Go ahead and try. Make it five. Set list fuck ups don't count. Good luck!

The only thing I can think of is on one of the residency dates, a drum stick goes flying from his hands and full speed when he attempts to hit a cymbal during lucky 13. However, just listening to it you wouldn't notice a mistake, he picks another stick right up without missing a beat and it just ends up looking fucking bad ass. So.. Tat doesn't count as embarrassing.

10/23/1995 tonight tonight he plays the ending too early. Never did it again though.

Also, I wasn't disappointed when matt walker took over, nor was I disappointed with the adore percussion ensemble. I think everyone's main point here is that mike just sucks. Has nothing to do with jimmy.

Again, best of luck!

soniclovenoize
12-13-2012, 11:06 PM
We just named three earlier in the thread, and you named two.

There's five.

Also, you admitted the drumming on the new album was good, right? Then he doesn't suck; he's only terrible because he's not Chamberlin. And that's a really miserable mindset to have.

paranoid
12-13-2012, 11:22 PM
We just named three earlier in the thread, and you named two.

There's five.

Also, you admitted the drumming on the new album was good, right? Then he doesn't suck; he's only terrible because he's not Chamberlin. And that's a really miserable mindset to have.

I clearly said the ones I mentioned didn't count due to badassery. The tonight tonight one is the only one that counts.. But I don't know if that counts as legit embarrassing. He didn't stop the song cold, or fuck the timing up, he actually kept going.

I said Byrne was serviceable on some tunes. But if over editing and pro tooling makes for a good drummer, then call me miserable.

There are other performances on the record that are laughable. Quasar, my love is winter come to mind. Name a laughable chamberlin drum performance. Name five.

paranoid
12-13-2012, 11:24 PM
Also, I only counted two you named? The metro ( which I need to see this screw up still), and you heard him screw up dross. Where's the 3rd?

paranoid
12-13-2012, 11:29 PM
@27:20

I'm not seeing the screw up. What is it specifically?

And fuck, at least jimmy can play the groove to soma correctly without fucking up the time. Combine all mike Byrne soma performances from the 2011 tour and you've got a treasure trove of blunders alone.

I mean you really, really have to nit pick to find jimmy blunders. You can find a handful of mikes at any show from the last three years.

How about you like Byrnes playing, and I don't, and you just like, live with that?

Ram27
12-13-2012, 11:41 PM
What did he screw up there? I don't hear it.

He kinda hesitated with his left arm at one point: he played this (http://i.imgur.com/1lrAH.png) though at that part of the song he's supposed to play this (http://i.imgur.com/X5ljo.png). He compensated for screwing up that by playing three sixteenth notes on the bass drum.

And the link might be a bit late, go back a few seconds.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:05 AM
He kinda hesitated with his left arm at one point: he played this (http://i.imgur.com/1lrAH.png) though at that part of the song he's supposed to play this (http://i.imgur.com/X5ljo.png). He compensated for screwing up that by playing three sixteenth notes on the bass drum.

And the link might be a bit late, go back a few seconds.

See, jimmy knows how to cover up his mistakes. Because he is what one calls a FUCKING PROFESSIONAL. Mike fucks up and falls flat on the face and at times even manages to stop the band completely. He's far from pro. Maybe another few years of touring with this band but Jesus Christ it's been 4 already. How do you fuck up zero that bad after 4 years of playing it?

Trotskilicious
12-14-2012, 12:21 AM
"OMG he's not playing it precisely like the greatest drummer of the 90s did, this kid fucking sucks what a blunder."

qft

Trotskilicious
12-14-2012, 12:22 AM
See, jimmy knows how to cover up his mistakes. Because he is what one calls a FUCKING PROFESSIONAL.

when did you get into the pumpkins 92? 93? i'm sure jim wasn't fucking jaw droppingly insanely good and professional at 21 or whatever age lil mikey is

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:31 AM
when did you get into the pumpkins 92? 93? i'm sure jim wasn't fucking jaw droppingly insanely good and professional at 21 or whatever age lil mikey is

Yeah no shit.

Which is why billy shouldn't have hired a god damn 19 year old that can't play.

Doesnt matter anyway. Jimmy is a golden god that can't be touched.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:34 AM
Btw no one was expecting whoever Jimmy's replacement was going to be, to be better than jimmy. That was a given.. But to hire someone so inexperienced and amateur was a bit of a shock to the system.. Especially to fans who enjoyed the drumming in this band. Just can't dig it, sorry folks.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:44 AM
I mean fuck I listen to a shit ton of drummers and he's the only one that makes my ears nauseous. I can't even take his playing in that bearcubbin material.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:45 AM
Billy should have just fucking hired Janet Weiss and given the pumpkins a new set of balls fuck Byrne.

But she's too good for billy so he gets stuck with a pile of shit behind the stool.

butthurt
12-14-2012, 12:49 AM
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pavementtune
12-14-2012, 12:49 AM
@ hello_juliana
Can the posters of netphoria please take jimmy's dick out of their mouths ?

2 days of netphorian fame on twitter.

soniclovenoize
12-14-2012, 01:55 AM
I clearly said the ones I mentioned didn't count due to badassery.

Yeah I think we're done here. If you can't have a rational discussion because your ears are too far up Chamberlin's ass than there's literally nothing I could post that you won't tap dance around.

Trotskilicious
12-14-2012, 02:04 AM
2 days of netphorian fame on twitter.

i always hate how babies act like we're all one poster

paranoid
12-14-2012, 02:18 AM
Yeah I think we're done here. If you can't have a rational discussion because your ears are too far up Chamberlin's ass than there's literally nothing I could post that you won't tap dance around.

You're damn right we're done here because you can't find a fuck up that's anywhere near the embarrassment level the mike is fucking consistent with.

I mean you say 'oh you hate Byrne because he's not chamberlin' yet you start this argument with 'well if you are going make a Byrne blunder video, then to have to make one for chamberlin' and that's just fucking annoying. Can't I just not like Byrnes drumming because I don't like his drumming? Has nothing to do with fucking jimmy fucking chamberlin. You know what? FUCK jimmy chamberlin. And fuck mike Byrne too. And fuck you get over it.

Seriously though I think you need to realize people would be less critical of mikes drumming if he had a voice of his own and wasn't a watered down version of chamberlin. If he's not chamberlin he should stop trying to drum like him and start trying to sound like himself. He'd probably get better results.

pavementtune
12-14-2012, 02:20 AM
Kind of funny when o-boarders read netphoria and then rant about it on twitter instead of posting here - at least I don't think hello_juliana is a netphorian.

Future Boy
12-14-2012, 04:06 AM
I'm not seeing the screw up. What is it specifically?


try 20:27. or 22:07. 27:00-27:15? look harder


How about you like Byrnes playing, and I don't, and you just like, live with that?
who the hell are you

teh b0lly!!1
12-14-2012, 05:45 AM
You're damn right we're done here because you can't find a fuck up that's anywhere near the embarrassment level the mike is fucking consistent with.

I mean you say 'oh you hate Byrne because he's not chamberlin' yet you start this argument with 'well if you are going make a Byrne blunder video, then to have to make one for chamberlin' and that's just fucking annoying. Can't I just not like Byrnes drumming because I don't like his drumming? Has nothing to do with fucking jimmy fucking chamberlin. You know what? FUCK jimmy chamberlin. And fuck mike Byrne too. And fuck you get over it.

Seriously though I think you need to realize people would be less critical of mikes drumming if he had a voice of his own and wasn't a watered down version of chamberlin. If he's not chamberlin he should stop trying to drum like him and start trying to sound like himself. He'd probably get better results.

nice job sonic, this guy is tripping balls right now

amoergosum
12-14-2012, 05:58 AM
Doesnt matter anyway. Jimmy is a golden god that can't be touched.


...:)

>>>

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scottytheoneand
12-14-2012, 06:48 AM
I think Billy would rather play with a drummer he's not thrilled with than eat crow, honestly. I don't think Mike will survive past this next year (either the band will implode or he'll get replaced).

not true. a year from now they'll have recorded another album together

Cool As Ice Cream
12-14-2012, 07:05 AM
can we add "talking to scotty" to byrne's biggest blunder list?

scottytheoneand
12-14-2012, 08:20 AM
I've talked to mike a couple of times. He's a cool guy.

Trotskilicious
12-14-2012, 10:37 AM
he's a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything?

scottytheoneand
12-14-2012, 11:13 AM
"i'm sorry to inform you...that Mike Byrne doesn't afraid of anything"

Cool As Ice Cream
12-14-2012, 12:29 PM
I've talked to mike a couple of times. He's a cool guy.

your point being?

autumn_amnesiac
12-14-2012, 12:33 PM
ohh, how utterly pathetic that people can't tell other forum members to fuck off, and have to bitch about it on twitter. As if their twitter community will rally around them to defend their new drummer.


i've given Mike a chance. not gonna lie, some of his drumming is really good in his how bearcubbin schtick. considering it's mostly math-rock. and he has really improved over the course of the past years.
it's just that his drumming with SP at the moment is really, to put in simple terms: too forced in direct.

Jimmy always played it nice and loose in the pocket. You can easily also hear that in the complex. some of the drums were complex, but there was always a nice groove and pocket to adhere to.

Mike has got chops, and damn it.. a better drummer than most of us.
but listen to the zero clip again. shit sounds so forced to be direct on time, there's no groove. and that lack of looseness, kinda is what triggers all the fuck ups.

then again, jimmy did grow up learning jazz and all the crazy techniques that come along with that, but that is not to say that we can't compare the two.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Point being that a Byrne blunders video is supposed to be made, and to try to make a Jimmy blunder video that would take up the same amount of time as a byrne video would take hours of searching and nit picking.

Doesn't matter though, really. If I'm listening to sp it's all this reissue bullshit, and barely that. I can't really listen to the new stuff. Just not a fan of Byrne and really not a fan of the current song writing. Oceania was good for like a week and then I just didn't give a shit about it anymore.

samuel redman
12-14-2012, 12:51 PM
srsly? ^

it's okay for him to fuck up sometimes on a drum part he wrote, i should have stated.

soniclovenoize
12-14-2012, 12:53 PM
it's okay for him to fuck up sometimes on a drum part he wrote, i should have stated.

It's OK to kill a child, but only if it's your own.

samuel redman
12-14-2012, 12:54 PM
also did anybody else get into this band because of Jimmy?

samuel redman
12-14-2012, 12:54 PM
It's OK to kill a child, but only if it's your own.

what kind of sick thinking is this

Copperpot5
12-14-2012, 12:56 PM
Maybe I shouldn't comment since I'm really not a MB hater. That said I've seen the title of this thread the past week or so and every time this comes to mind:

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paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:57 PM
It's OK to kill a child, but only if it's your own.

Lol.

Stretching dude.

soniclovenoize
12-14-2012, 12:57 PM
what kind of sick thinking is this

A mistake is still a mistake.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 12:58 PM
Maybe I shouldn't comment since I'm really not a MB hater. That said I've seen the title of this thread the past week or so and every time this comes to mind:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/k2Kzm746Zyg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Good fucking lord. Find a jimmy fuck up that's as stupid as that one. Is his monitor blown or is he just not listening?

But hey it's fair. Jimmy like, fucked up dross once, bro.

samuel redman
12-14-2012, 12:58 PM
let's just all agree that Billy's huge desire to be right has over taken his desire for music perfection, which is obviously why byrne is still in this band

soniclovenoize
12-14-2012, 12:59 PM
Good fucking lord. Find a jimmy fuck up that's as stupid as that one. Is his monitor blown or is he just not listening?

But hey it's fair. Jimmy like, fucked up dross once, bro.

Yeah that's pretty bad.

But very hilarious too.

paranoid
12-14-2012, 01:01 PM
let's just all agree that Billy's huge desire to be right has over taken his desire for music perfection, which is obviously why byrne is still in this band

Hey just needs to tour with an acoustic guitar. He'd be better off.

samuel redman
12-14-2012, 01:03 PM
i think the Rose March is the best of the new stuff for that reason, other issues aside

adamdanger!
12-14-2012, 01:11 PM
How about Billy making Jimmy fuck up when the vocals come in? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLTcakiZlfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

soniclovenoize
12-14-2012, 01:54 PM
How about Billy making Jimmy fuck up when the vocals come in? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLTcakiZlfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Sounds like Corgan was the one who fucked up, and Chamberlin adjusted to fit the vocal.

adamdanger!
12-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Thus "Billy making Jimmy fuck up".

soniclovenoize
12-14-2012, 02:40 PM
That would be incorrect, since Jimmy didn't fuck up. Jimmy was not the one who made the mistake. It was Billy.

Wow I sound like paranoid.

adamdanger!
12-14-2012, 02:52 PM
You made me fuck up.

scottytheoneand
12-14-2012, 03:49 PM
Adam. I know you saw this on twitter and couldn't stay away!

adamdanger!
12-14-2012, 04:29 PM
Damn it Scotty, don't start arguing with me here now!

Actually, no. I've been lurking since 97 and recently started posting here. Don't ask why it took so long.

Ram27
12-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Sounds like Corgan was the one who fucked up, and Chamberlin adjusted to fit the vocal.

It sounded like he was kind of off at the beginning then fixed it when Billy started singing.

fuzzyroes
12-14-2012, 07:59 PM
also did anybody else get into this band because of Jimmy?

I liked the band when I was younger, like 8 years old in 94, digging the singles and stuff. And then a wicked ass drummer turned me onto the band and it was Jimmy that got me into them and then Billys guitar playing/song writing equally enticed me... They were a powerful force...

Theres something clearly missing now. I'm not sure whether the songs just aren't good or whether its byrnes loose playing holding Billy back but something isn't clicking anymore.

Oceania is a lot less interesting an album than Zeitgeist... Obviously Zeitgeist has production flaws that Oceania doesn't. But it's clear the powerful chemistry is sadly missing on this new release.

great poster
12-14-2012, 08:32 PM
How about Billy making Jimmy fuck up when the vocals come in? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLTcakiZlfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

i'm not hearing any fuck ups? was it at the beginning?

adamdanger!
12-14-2012, 09:08 PM
i'm not hearing any fuck ups? was it at the beginning?

I'm not a drummer, but I think the ride cymbal is out of sync with guitars. Guitars start the song, then Jimmy comes in late for a bit before slowing to match Bill's rhythm.

killtrocity
12-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Hey just needs to tour with an acoustic guitar. He'd be better off.

^

Trotskilicious
12-14-2012, 09:36 PM
i disagree about the grandpas guitars

slunken
12-14-2012, 09:44 PM
Since 97

brendo_91
12-14-2012, 09:45 PM
On that version of Fuck You, Jimmy comes in late on the hihats, like a half a beat out. Billy was right, Jimmy was not. Jimmy adjusted back to "correct"

paranoid
12-14-2012, 09:55 PM
On that version of Fuck You, Jimmy comes in late on the hihats, like a half a beat out. Billy was right, Jimmy was not. Jimmy adjusted back to "correct"

So the majority of the fuck ups we've found on chamberlin thus far come from the first post release mcis show. They probably just spent a week rehearsing songs they just recorded for a 28 song album, prepping them for live shows. I'm betting he didn't fuck those same songs up after that.

What's interesting about this blunder is that som of the fans seem to disagree on who is at fault here. Clearly, IMO, chamberlin was off.

adamdanger!
12-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Chamberlin was off. This clip is muddy compared to the soundboard. I listened on my shitty work speakers and second guessed myself.

killtrocity
12-15-2012, 02:54 AM
hey guys remember that one time when jimmy fucked up

Trotskilicious
12-15-2012, 03:50 AM
this has to be the dumbest byrne thread ever

New Art Rioter
12-15-2012, 09:23 AM
Good fucking lord. Find a jimmy fuck up that's as stupid as that one. Is his monitor blown or is he just not listening?

But hey it's fair. Jimmy like, fucked up dross once, bro.

Maybe I shouldn't comment since I'm really not a MB hater. That said I've seen the title of this thread the past week or so and every time this comes to mind:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/k2Kzm746Zyg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ugh I fucking can't stand Mike Byrne. Awful awful awful

Is someone on making this video?

SPLATTER
12-15-2012, 06:32 PM
That Cherub Rock performance is inexcusable. Criminal.

Look at this recent quote, Billy on Byrne:

"He is definitely the best musician in the band. He can handle anything.”

http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/dec/04/the-smashing-pumpkins-will-play-new-albu/

depressing

New Art Rioter
12-15-2012, 10:41 PM
I'm sure he has said that about either Nicole or Jeff. I don't believe he actually thinks it for a second, just that he has found a dynamic he is comfortable with. It sucks that is traded for musical proficiency

fuzzyroes
12-15-2012, 10:58 PM
It sucks man... Billy really is a legendary musician and hes playing with a novice young adult musician that can't handle his shit... Sucks for Billy and the fans... Nobody wins here.

great poster
12-15-2012, 11:07 PM
It sucks man... Billy really is a legendary musician and hes playing with a novice young adult musician that can't handle his shit... Sucks for Billy and the fans... Nobody wins here.

he wants jimmy back. i know he says that he doesn't, but he fucking does. he just doesn't want to admit that he fucked up by hiring mike.

slunken
12-16-2012, 12:50 AM
bill doesn't know shit about drumming

Ram27
12-28-2012, 04:35 PM
3:14

Is this nigga serious?

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killtrocity
12-28-2012, 10:38 PM
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/14/16/enhanced-buzz-19503-1352927314-11.jpg

slunken
12-28-2012, 10:57 PM
lol true true

SPLATTER
12-30-2012, 07:34 AM
Holy Shhhh that Hummer vid is offensive. This kid is an awful drummer.

mruci
12-30-2012, 03:05 PM
So I guess that means we shouldn't vote for him as best alternative drummer of the year in Modern Drummer Magazine?

http://www.moderndrummer.com/site/2012/12/modern-drummer-readers-poll-2013/


:rofl:

jimmy drevpile
12-30-2012, 04:46 PM
Wtf. What a joke.

brendo_91
12-30-2012, 07:08 PM
So I guess that means we shouldn't vote for him as best alternative drummer of the year in Modern Drummer Magazine?

http://www.moderndrummer.com/site/2012/12/modern-drummer-readers-poll-2013/


:rofl:

i just put in a vote for one of the other dudes for that category, consider it an anti-vote for mike burns.

paranoid
12-30-2012, 07:50 PM
3:14

Is this nigga serious?

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Man he is fucking up all over the place on this one.

Hey whoever was making that blunders video, good going on getting it done.

jimmy drevpile
12-31-2012, 11:07 AM
Hell. That is fucking ugly all over.

Implosion
12-31-2012, 12:58 PM
BALEETED

rolmos
01-04-2013, 06:08 PM
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Better than Byrne

Ihaguitar
01-04-2013, 06:45 PM
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Better than Byrne

I'd like to see it playing Geek USA.

aztec litany service
01-05-2013, 08:39 AM
dead horse and all, but i'm bored

he's not the worst drummer ever and he's not 'good enough' for sp.

people are wrong to say "you can't compare MB to JC b/c JC is one of the best drummers ever". they're going to compare him to JC b/c he is JC's replacement, and he obviously does not fill the shoes. it's not just a case of him having a slightly different style that people would have difficulty adjusting to. it's that he is playing bad covers of JC drum parts. i will never hear him playing a JC song and not think 'he doesn't compare to JC'. if i hear someone trying to cover hendrix of course i will compare them to hendrix. and 99% of the time they won't cut it. it would take an incredibly special musician to properly fill JC's position, but i'm sure billy could do better if he wanted to.

pavementtune
03-29-2013, 03:01 AM
Just in case anybody is actually going to edit a Mikey compilation:
use these head moves, somewhere.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zlKT7xT09bk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

amoergosum
03-29-2013, 04:31 AM
<a href="http://imgur.com/45ljREq"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/45ljREq.gif" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>

Trotskilicious
03-29-2013, 04:42 AM
totally masturbating

soniclovenoize
03-29-2013, 11:15 AM
He's about to cough up a hairball.

stumpycat
03-30-2013, 01:36 AM
How cute, he's bonding with his son.

fuzzyroes
03-30-2013, 11:16 PM
hahaha thats awesome

slunken
03-31-2013, 12:17 AM
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/slunken_2007/guythinkingatbilly.gif

LalaPumpkinhead
03-31-2013, 01:17 AM
hehe that dude is a legend

Bread Regal
03-31-2013, 01:55 AM
He's about to cough up a hairball.
<hg>

iPumpkin
04-01-2013, 02:47 AM
Jim is watching these vids on his iPad in bed in his mansion right now smirking like a motherfucker.

Ram27
04-01-2013, 03:33 PM
Jim is watching these vids on his iPad in bed in his mansion right now smirking like a motherfucker.

http://i.imgur.com/DeNykHS.gif

whywontyoulistn
04-29-2013, 02:07 PM
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946786_10151904892717222_533098938_n.jpg

Worst shirt ever.

Reyngel
04-29-2013, 03:23 PM
Right after that horrendous Hummer video by Byrne at Terminal 5, the "related video" on YouTube was this:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dOjpDMz0D6w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Highlights:

-Jimmy playing so gangster, he at one point plays with his hands behind his head
-Billy's vocals are excellent
-A guy in the audience crowd-surfs while headbanging at the same time

RIP, Smashing Pumpkins.

killtrocity
04-29-2013, 05:32 PM
he was sucking a bearcubber's dick

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rm7sTC214wQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ram27
04-29-2013, 06:45 PM
Apparently Mike just played Dross at the VIP thing.

Dross.

Fucking Dross.

Goddamn.

amoergosum
04-30-2013, 07:54 AM
Apparently Mike just played Dross at the VIP thing.

Dross.

Fucking Dross.

Goddamn.


Here it is...awful >>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/M1NDm2zWp14" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here's a live version with Jimmy >>>

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rWy7yAc_Ur0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Cool As Ice Cream
04-30-2013, 08:15 AM
Worst shirt ever.
haha. i suggested that picture on the spfreaks.com forums. i like it.

they made a t-shirt for each band member and gave it to them. was mike wearing that shirt recently? yesterday? or where did that picture come from?

Cool As Ice Cream
04-30-2013, 08:23 AM
<marquee behavior=alternate direction=up height=80><center><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Mike_Byrne_2010.jpg/800px-Mike_Byrne_2010.jpg"></center></marquee>

whywontyoulistn
04-30-2013, 08:39 AM
SPumpkinsUK got one for his birthday haha.

Here it is...awful >>>

I have to admit, he did ok on the BASH BASH BASH part; it's only when he got to the fills that it went tits-up. That and the intro, of course.

Cool As Ice Cream
04-30-2013, 08:53 AM
i got one too. i'm happy with it.

<marquee behavior="alternate" direction="up" height="80" scrollamount="5"><center><img src="http://i39.tinypic.com/2ng4bnl.jpg"></center></marquee>
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paranoid
04-30-2013, 02:31 PM
Holy wow that is a horrendous version of dross. Cover band level.

Rider
04-30-2013, 03:19 PM
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946786_10151904892717222_533098938_n.jpg

Worst shirt ever.

It looks like he is having a temper tantrum.

Ram27
04-30-2013, 04:05 PM
Here it is...awful >>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/M1NDm2zWp14" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here's a live version with Jimmy >>>

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rWy7yAc_Ur0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It's fucking ridiculous how much more listenable the second one is. Regardless of sound quality.

Ram27
04-30-2013, 05:04 PM
Listen to Mike have enough talent to get through Rocket but not enough fucking common sense to not add stupid things/subtract necessary things!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2e7qdWvJsS0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Reyngel
04-30-2013, 06:53 PM
I think I just figured out what it is that I fucking hate about his playing style with the Pumpkins...

...it always sounds like he was only given 1 drum and 1 cymbal and asked "Try to make due with these. Sorry."

...except, he always has a full kit.

Absolutely no fucking dynamics. He's not a musician, he's a completer of tasks.

Slurpee
04-30-2013, 07:47 PM
Absolutely no fucking dynamics. He's not a musician, he's a completer of tasks.

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Rider
04-30-2013, 07:55 PM
Agreed. It seems like the newer the performance of this new SP, the worse it all gets :(

Ya know guys, let's just take a 5 second break from complaining about how incredibly shitty Byrne is, and focus on the elephant in the room. That being that Corgan has no spark or confidence in these songs! They fuckin' play DROSS and he sings it like he just wrote it 5 min prior!!??? What in the actual fuck is going on here???? I get that he's old and bla bla, but goddammit Billy!! Go to the fucking gym and get some exercise, then work on singing your songs like you actually enjoy playing them! If you can't give it your all, then go fuck yourself and stop stealing money from the little bit of fans you have coming to watch your shitty cover band! That big neon ball, and special lights don't make up for your crappy 'i dont give a shit' voice... All of us can do nothing but compare your earlier years videos to these new ones, and it's just a joke man!

I really tried giving Byrne a chance, but he just doesn't fit. When was there ever a t-shirt with JC playing drums on it? NEVER! Because we all knew he was a monster drummer from the beginning.. That shirt is atrocious just as all the 'apparel' and merchandise coming from all these wraaasstlin' or live show events.. Btw- fuck that V.I.P. BULLSHIT! I would feel like my asshole was abused
by a large dildo with poison ivy all over it if I paid $400 + bucks to see Billy and Co. mosey through good songs half-ass, and most importantly half-hearted! I'm just becoming less and less of a fan of Corgan.. I'm 28 now, and he's been my hero since I was at least 12 yrs old. I would prefer Billy just quit any new renditions of SP and focus on releasing everything possible from the archives.. Then in about 5 more years get back with Jimmy and do one more tour.. I honestly feel that one of the reasons he's been singing so half ass is because he realizes SP doesn't sound the way it did with Jimmy, and it probably secretly frustrates him... But instead of saying "hey everybody I fucked up", he just shoves this 'new' SP down our throats targeting a completely different demographic of people.. Most folks say his voice went to shit years ago, but in my opinion the last time we got GOOD live performances was during the 2008 Anniversary shows.. I was pretty angry when I saw how awful Plume sounded at those VIP shows, but Dross is just crossing the line.. :dammit:

Dude just stop caring, it's okay.

Ram27
04-30-2013, 09:07 PM
I think I just figured out what it is that I fucking hate about his playing style with the Pumpkins...

...it always sounds like he was only given 1 drum and 1 cymbal and asked "Try to make due with these. Sorry."

...except, he always has a full kit.

Absolutely no fucking dynamics. He's not a musician, he's a completer of tasks.

In the VIP sessions he just has a 4 piece with one crash.

Which makes things worse.

Shallowed
04-30-2013, 09:10 PM
Right after that horrendous Hummer video by Byrne at Terminal 5, the "related video" on YouTube was this:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dOjpDMz0D6w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

1:55 Rider's new avatar

sppunk
04-30-2013, 09:44 PM
That Dross performance might be the worst-sounding thing any version of SP has ever played on film.

killtrocity
05-01-2013, 12:36 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m74i2cplGs1qgecupo1_500.gif

Implosion
05-01-2013, 01:00 AM
Listen to Mike have enough talent to get through Rocket but not enough fucking common sense to not add stupid things/subtract necessary things!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2e7qdWvJsS0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yet another example where he has seemingly never bothered listening to the original recording.

Starla
05-01-2013, 02:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/DeNykHS.gif>>


<a href="http://imgur.com/45ljREq"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/45ljREq.gif" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>

amoergosum
05-01-2013, 02:26 AM
In the VIP sessions he just has a 4 piece with one crash.

Which makes things worse.


Give Jimmy a snare drum, Hi-Hats & a bass drum and he sounds incredible >>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ttpyX_rA1q8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rocket Launcher
05-01-2013, 07:39 AM
If you pay close attention, you see that jeff is fucking up at around 1:28 also, he starts playing the bridge part when it's not yet time for it..probably that's why billy points at him later. mike's drum part is awful.

themadcaplaughs
05-01-2013, 09:30 AM
greed. It seems like the newer the performance of this new SP, the worse it all gets

Ya know guys, let's just take a 5 second break from complaining about how incredibly shitty Byrne is, and focus on the elephant in the room. That being that Corgan has no spark or confidence in these songs! They fuckin' play DROSS and he sings it like he just wrote it 5 min prior!!??? What in the actual fuck is going on here???? I get that he's old and bla bla, but goddammit Billy!! Go to the fucking gym and get some exercise, then work on singing your songs like you actually enjoy playing them! If you can't give it your all, then go fuck yourself and stop stealing money from the little bit of fans you have coming to watch your shitty cover band! That big neon ball, and special lights don't make up for your crappy 'i dont give a shit' voice... All of us can do nothing but compare your earlier years videos to these new ones, and it's just a joke man!

I really tried giving Byrne a chance, but he just doesn't fit. When was there ever a t-shirt with JC playing drums on it? NEVER! Because we all knew he was a monster drummer from the beginning.. That shirt is atrocious just as all the 'apparel' and merchandise coming from all these wraaasstlin' or live show events.. Btw- fuck that V.I.P. BULLSHIT! I would feel like my asshole was abused
by a large dildo with poison ivy all over it if I paid $400 + bucks to see Billy and Co. mosey through good songs half-ass, and most importantly half-hearted! I'm just becoming less and less of a fan of Corgan.. I'm 28 now, and he's been my hero since I was at least 12 yrs old. I would prefer Billy just quit any new renditions of SP and focus on releasing everything possible from the archives.. Then in about 5 more years get back with Jimmy and do one more tour.. I honestly feel that one of the reasons he's been singing so half ass is because he realizes SP doesn't sound the way it did with Jimmy, and it probably secretly frustrates him... But instead of saying "hey everybody I fucked up", he just shoves this 'new' SP down our throats targeting a completely different demographic of people.. Most folks say his voice went to shit years ago, but in my opinion the last time we got GOOD live performances was during the 2008 Anniversary shows.. I was pretty angry when I saw how awful Plume sounded at those VIP shows, but Dross is just crossing the line..

I agree with everything you say, but still hate you.

Reyngel
05-01-2013, 02:03 PM
Give Jimmy a snare drum, Hi-Hats & a bass drum and he sounds incredible >>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ttpyX_rA1q8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



Fuck. This is so amazing. This one little DW demo video is leaps and bounds more amazing than anything Byrne could ever dream to accomplish in his entire life.

It's like Billy traded Leonardo daVinci for a common newspaper comic strip artist. Yes, the comic strip artist can draw, but daVinci can actually teach you how to harness and unpack the soul of creation.

There's no way Billy ISN"T being stubborn about his misstep in choosing Byrne. It may be the clearest example of his ego to date.

Ram27
05-01-2013, 03:33 PM
It's like Billy traded Leonardo daVinci for a common newspaper comic strip artist. Yes, the comic strip artist can draw, but daVinci can actually teach you how to harness and unpack the soul of creation.



Listening to Jimmy's parts has taught me so much about drumming', and I have the utmost respect for him. One of my favorite things about SP is being blown away by how good Jimmy is.

But when Mike is being an asshole, I literally feel like I could do better than him, and I can't enjoy the songs as much.

croPUMPKINS
05-01-2013, 07:05 PM
so the more shows they play the bigger the chances Billy realizes Mike is a mistake.

on the other hand, why do YOU think Billy holds on to him?

Trotskilicious
05-01-2013, 07:06 PM
because mike has no spine and will do anything he says without ever arguing

vajohna
05-01-2013, 10:13 PM
Here it is...awful >>>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/M1NDm2zWp14" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

On the contrary, it sounds like the kid has learned a new fill to repeat ad nauseam!

fuzzyroes
05-02-2013, 12:16 AM
Billy Corgans dead to me

amoergosum
05-02-2013, 02:32 AM
totally masturbating

>>>

<a href="http://imgur.com/gEnY2J1" title="The Smashing Pumpkins Bullet with Butterfly Wings Guitar Center Sessions on DIRECTV - Created at yt2gif.com"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/gEnY2J1.gif" alt="The Smashing Pumpkins Bullet with Butterfly Wings Guitar Center Sessions on DIRECTV - Created at yt2gif.com" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>

ExitInTheSky
05-02-2013, 10:43 AM
Can't wait to see that beer gut in HD!! isn't this dude a vegan? how did he get so pudgy?

reprise85
05-02-2013, 11:58 PM
he's not a vegan

slunken
05-03-2013, 01:11 AM
he's not a vegan

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_72-XGWCgZog/Sx5ZvCJeQeI/AAAAAAAABVk/YgUwaer9jyk/s400/Arnold.jpg

Brisk
05-03-2013, 01:47 PM
AHAHAA STARS

http://archive.org/details/SmashingPumpkinsLiveAtMaxwellC.KingCenterForThePer formingArtsOn

amoergosum
05-03-2013, 03:05 PM
AHAHAA STARS

http://archive.org/details/SmashingPumpkinsLiveAtMaxwellC.KingCenterForThePer formingArtsOn


>>>

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ORalNaAokYA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

amoergosum
05-04-2013, 03:02 AM
Listen to these fills during the outro >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H9oavAhwbY#t=5m13s

...here Mike is suddenly slowing down...notice how Jeff looks at him (at 2:14) shortly afterwards >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H9oavAhwbY#t=2m05s


Full clip:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8H9oavAhwbY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ram27
05-04-2013, 10:58 AM
The ending was pathetic, they didn't even cut off all at the same time.
Hihat's too loose on the verses.

Billy's new singing actually doesn't go too badly with this though.

New Art Rioter
05-04-2013, 01:28 PM
Hate to be that guy, but sounds like Corgan fronting a Pumpkins cover band. Mike needs putting into a rocket and firing into the sun

Reyngel
05-05-2013, 03:40 PM
Listen to these fills during the outro >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H9oavAhwbY#t=5m13s

...here Mike is suddenly slowing down...notice how Jeff looks at him (at 2:14) shortly afterwards >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H9oavAhwbY#t=2m05s


Full clip:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8H9oavAhwbY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Mike also speeds everything up at about 4:08 which forces everyone to lunge forward with a quicker tempo, all the way until a full minute later at 5:08 when Billy uses his guitar lead to force Mike to slow down.

Trotskilicious
05-05-2013, 04:53 PM
Hate to be that guy, but sounds like Corgan fronting a Pumpkins cover band.

yes absolutely

Funbags
05-05-2013, 10:48 PM
...and then Joe Shanahan turned up and said "Man, this band would be great with a drum machine" -and the Smashing Pumpkins were born.

amoergosum
02-04-2016, 04:32 AM
According to Billy, Mike was a fantastic drummer. So how come no band has hired him yet? It has been two years since he got fired.

http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/4bd13a0e-e197-48d9-876f-ff0139f61806/f9869c0c-5560-4875-8707-b6207344a7c9.png

Corgan's Bluff
02-04-2016, 05:04 AM
Mike is too busy giving drumming lessons.

Ram27
02-04-2016, 09:17 AM
I just realized this whole thing is like the Peyton Manning/Brock Osweiler situation

Greatest QB of all time goes out, some kid starts in his place and does semi-okay at first but then starts sucking, but then Peyton comes back and leads the Super Bowl

Elphenor
02-04-2016, 12:48 PM
Except nobody is going to the Super Bowl here

I mean ZG was so awesome right