View Full Version : New MBV album before the end of the year...


Rocket Launcher
11-07-2012, 04:09 PM
and an EP next year. So this might be happening, finally.

http://www.nme.com/news/my-bloody-valentine/67046

:smoke:

redbull
11-07-2012, 04:15 PM
calling bullshit

Shallowed
11-07-2012, 06:22 PM
^

redbreegull
11-07-2012, 06:42 PM
that cock Kevin Shields said this in 2010 also

IAMTHEDOORWAY
11-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Is it still going to be called 100% like he said in 2010. I always kind of liked that title.

Euronomus
11-07-2012, 07:18 PM
Not holding my breath, not just because i don't expect it to come out this year, but because there's a 50/50 chance that by this point it'll suck anyway.

scottytheoneand
11-07-2012, 08:16 PM
I want it to be great. But it'll probably suck.

fluxequalsrad
11-07-2012, 08:31 PM
I don't think it will suck, I am not expecting Loveless II though.

Can anyone think of any viable artist/band that has had a 21 year gap between releases that still turned out alright?

"City Girl" from Lost in Translation sounded like 1991 Kevin so who knows...

Trotskilicious
11-08-2012, 02:04 AM
Can anyone think of any viable artist/band that has had a 21 year gap between releases that still turned out alright?

swans?

opera de nuit
11-08-2012, 11:11 AM
axl rose is laughing and ordering another ice cream sundae.

opera de nuit
11-08-2012, 11:12 AM
swans?

also, scott walker.

Rocket Launcher
12-28-2012, 03:51 AM
"On 21-12-12 we finished mastering the new album!"

about time, now it's time to deliver. but what could you expect, the guy is almost deaf and a sound (control) freak. a few months ahead of us and we might see something physicial or a digital file. of course he already lied about the release but i saw it coming. in that aspect, he's just like billy c

Sonic Johnny
12-28-2012, 05:57 AM
swans?

Call it splitting hairs but Swans were 14 years between Soundtracks For The Blind and My Father...

Future Boy
12-28-2012, 06:09 AM
seriously

Sonic Johnny
12-28-2012, 07:16 AM
not to mention that Gira was doing Angels Of Light in the middle which, lets face it, bears a greater resemblance to new Swans than old Swans did, so it's not like they really went away the way MBV went away.

Cowlishaw
12-28-2012, 04:49 PM
Stupid question: Are the still signed with Island?

smashingjj
12-29-2012, 07:08 AM
The album is apparently mastered, so music-wise it should actually be ready for release.

http://pitchfork.com/news/48508-my-bloody-valentine-finish-mastering-new-album/

I don't suppose it's still coming out this year as it has three days left, but I wonder what the hell can still stop them from releasing this since it seems to be completely finished.

noyen
12-29-2012, 01:59 PM
there are no reasons for it not to come out unless some act of god type situation occurs and destroys the recordings or whatever. i'm excited to hear it.

from spin magazine, it will be self released with no label attachment:

"He also explained that My Bloody Valentine will be releasing the new one on their own, without help from outside labels, via their website. MyBloodyValentine.co.uk currently promises "NEW WEBSITE AND STORE COMING SOON," so, you know, it's probably time to get excited. The band has also announced a handful of international shows for the new year."

Cowlishaw
12-29-2012, 06:22 PM
I don't think it will suck, I am not expecting Loveless II though.

I don't think anyone should. Just happy to hear from them again. Even a decent album is better than none.

Love your avatar.

Sonic Johnny
12-30-2012, 03:14 AM
*facepalm*

Cowlishaw
12-30-2012, 02:31 PM
problems?

noyen
12-30-2012, 04:17 PM
a few fake leaks out there ;).

D.
12-30-2012, 05:22 PM
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

soniclovenoize
01-01-2013, 01:07 PM
Huh.

Glopaiswe
01-27-2013, 04:29 PM
Apparently they opened their set tonight with a new song and Kevin said the album might be out in 2 or 3 days.

Sonic Johnny
01-27-2013, 04:42 PM
that dude uses the word "might" like trent reznor uses the word "soon"

Eulogy
01-27-2013, 05:22 PM
like trent reznor uses the word "soon"

what

Sonic Johnny
01-27-2013, 05:36 PM
Actually now I think about it that joke is totally outdated.

I was part of a NIN fan community way back in the day when we were waiting on With Teeth and someone started keeping a tally of every time Reznor said "soon" in the press.

Sonic Johnny
01-27-2013, 06:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qOqPGV0.jpg

Eulogy
01-27-2013, 06:26 PM
oh. lol.

i still remember hearing a clip of the line begins to blur. playing in my winamp. lol.

those were exciting times.

Shallowed
01-27-2013, 06:43 PM
Starts at about 0:25

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Shallowed
01-27-2013, 06:45 PM
There seems to be a lot of reports of the sound being rather poor.

TuralyonW3
01-27-2013, 06:45 PM
sounds like the 90s

Sonic Johnny
01-27-2013, 07:12 PM
I lisitened to it and it sounds alright but so much of MBV is in the production that there's no point speculating what this song will sound like on record.

Order 66
01-27-2013, 07:14 PM
del

D.
01-27-2013, 07:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qOqPGV0.jpg

holy shit YES

Cool As Ice Cream
01-28-2013, 06:14 AM
lololo

Glopaiswe
02-02-2013, 03:27 PM
My Bloody Valentine
We are preparing to go live with the new album/website this evening. We will make an announcement as soon as its up.

Shallowed
02-02-2013, 03:28 PM
:bananamac

Sonic Johnny
02-02-2013, 04:27 PM
^

Order 66
02-02-2013, 04:43 PM
i call buuullshit. but dear lawd i hope i wrong

D.
02-02-2013, 07:30 PM
server crash

now it's going to be sometime tomorrow

Sonic Johnny
02-02-2013, 08:58 PM
I am listening to this.

Glopaiswe
02-02-2013, 09:26 PM
I'm really liking it so far

Cowlishaw
02-02-2013, 09:44 PM
Really good.

killtrocity
02-02-2013, 10:04 PM
16$ for a digital download seems excessive... guess he can't afford charity like Radiohead and Trent. prob worth that much per track if it's produced like the last one

D.
02-02-2013, 10:25 PM
7 tracks deep and it's unmemorable. gonna give it time because it's mbv but if it was some other band, i gotta be honest with myself and say i would have probably deleted it already.

Trotskilicious
02-02-2013, 10:30 PM
not quite deadsy

D.
02-02-2013, 10:32 PM
:rofl:

i like track 3 and 8!!

Order 66
02-02-2013, 10:49 PM
it sounds like... my bloody valentine

Sonic Johnny
02-02-2013, 11:33 PM
some of it is brilliant, some of it is boring. Will need multiple listens but so far feeling like a strong 7

Shallowed
02-02-2013, 11:44 PM
I can't believe that I'm listening to this.

Shallowed
02-02-2013, 11:51 PM
3 minute mark of the third track... fuuuuuuck :'D

Shallowed
02-02-2013, 11:54 PM
Dude what, organs?

redbull
02-03-2013, 01:18 AM
holy shit i can't believe this is happening

DIVING IN

redbull
02-03-2013, 01:26 AM
only tomorrow is so so good

redbull
02-03-2013, 01:30 AM
third song is the best thus far. insane

redbull
02-03-2013, 01:58 AM
track 8 sounds like superchrist

Rocket Launcher
02-03-2013, 02:33 AM
damn this is so good...

redbull
02-03-2013, 02:44 AM
rating 8.5 / 10

sober rating tomorrow

TuralyonW3
02-03-2013, 03:51 AM
oh hey it's those bendy warbly guitar sounds must be MBV

TuralyonW3
02-03-2013, 03:51 AM
it's like it's 1992!

Sonic Johnny
02-03-2013, 03:59 AM
it most certainly does.

Order 66
02-03-2013, 11:12 PM
it'll take years before i can compare it to isnt anything or loveless.. but i'm really digging it. i could see how if it was released in the mid 90s it might be seen as a loveless retread but there's no point in getting hypothetical about it. it came out in 2013, and its pretty good. it seems to balance out the highs and lows better than loveless, i will say that

TuralyonW3
02-03-2013, 11:23 PM
first impression is that the loud/noisy song seem way way better than the soft/medium songs, and also it's kinda disappointing that they're working in literally the exact same aesthetic as 20 years ago

Sonic Johnny
02-03-2013, 11:50 PM
Hey man pretty much nobody has reinvented the wheel twice.




Well, except for Earth.

Shallowed
02-03-2013, 11:56 PM
I prefer the slow/medium ones, but I love them all. I agree about the same aesthetic thing, but the meat of the songwriting is a change.

Almost all of the songs on Loveless went verse-chorus-verse-chorus-verse-chorus, and you could tell which was which because the choruses were wordless and that's when the noise loops came back in. None of the songs on m b v seem to have either. Most of the songs constantly modulate bar to bar. It's more difficult to pin down the structure of the songs on m b v. They have parts where there is singing and then a completely different sounding instrumental section for two minutes in the middle of the song, then a bit more singing, then another two minute instrumental or ooh-ooh-oohing for the outro.

Shallowed
02-03-2013, 11:57 PM
I read a review that said it's as much a departure from Loveless as Loveless was to Isn't Anything, and I'd have to agree.

TuralyonW3
02-04-2013, 12:20 AM
the last track is kind of a mess

Sonic Johnny
02-04-2013, 01:03 AM
yeah when I first heard those breaks I was like "FUCK YEAH" but then it just kinda goes nowhere.

houseofglass11
02-04-2013, 01:30 AM
The last two tracks are kind of pointless. And the organ song isn't that good either.

redbull
02-04-2013, 01:46 AM
seriously guys? I loved the last two tracks. in my opinion 4 - 6 is the worst chunk of the album... wonder 2 is probably the new you made me realize if they wind up touring again

TuralyonW3
02-04-2013, 01:50 AM
I like 8 just not 9.

Shallowed
02-04-2013, 02:11 AM
seriously guys? I loved the last two tracks. in my opinion 4 - 6 is the worst chunk of the album... wonder 2 is probably the new you made me realize if they wind up touring again

Imagine if they started playing YMMR, did the holocaust part, built up twenty billion layers of noises, then whacked a phaser on top of it all and started playing Wonder 2.

:rockon:

Sonic Johnny
02-04-2013, 02:15 AM
the organ song isn't that good either.

this is hands down the biggest flaw on the album. It just falls flat on its face.

redbull
02-04-2013, 02:17 AM
Imagine if they started playing YMMR, did the holocaust part, built up twenty billion layers of noises, then whacked a phaser on top of it all and started playing Wonder 2.

:rockon:

and then the little ending bit of YMMR at the end yessss

Shallowed
02-04-2013, 02:25 AM
this is hands down the biggest flaw on the album. It just falls flat on its face.

Yeah.. you have to wonder what they were thinking. I can still appreciate it, but I'd appreciate it more if it were later on in the album, it'd fit better.

Also they could have put a finished version of this on the album instead.

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Sonic Johnny
02-04-2013, 05:05 AM
The more I listen to this album the more I like it.

which is to say

The more I listen to this album the more I like the bits I liked the first time.

scottytheoneand
02-04-2013, 10:37 AM
tracks 8 & 9 are throw aways.

I like the first 7 tracks. But it has the feel of an EP that went one song too long. Although, back in the day a lot of vinyl LPs only had about 8 tracks on them so whatever.

butthurt
02-04-2013, 05:41 PM
this album just doesn't meet my standers

Shallowed
02-04-2013, 07:25 PM
The more I listen to this album the more I like it.

which is to say

The more I listen to this album the more I like the bits I liked the first time.

:banging:

I gave it a 4.5 on Rate Your Music initially. At the time I suspected that it was mostly excitement that made me want to rate it that high, and that I'd lower it to maybe 4 after a few dozen listens. But now I think I like it more too.

soniclovenoize
02-04-2013, 08:01 PM
It's pretty good. I was like wtf halfway through though.

GLOWer
02-04-2013, 08:31 PM
the first listen left me feeling really fucked up. its truly, really weird. BUT im on my 8th listen now and its congealed into something amazing. like suddenly the melody for 'she found now' doesnt seem so aimless and apt to drift away, its quite concrete and suddenly the wordless vox at the end of 'new you' aren't random-- there's some serious thought put into counterpoint and harmony there.

i was reading some dude talking about how the record is broken into 3 parts (thus the title, m b v). the first is the three more standard sounding mbv songs, the second is the 'jazzy' pieces and the third is the ultimate mind fuck agro jungle stuff. it starts off somewhat normal by mbv standards and melts into weirdness. someone else had noted that kevin shields said this record was conceptual, and its feeling more and more true.

is it as good as loveless or isnt anything? probably, and lets not forget we've had 20 plus years to love those albums. honestly, i didn't even like 'i only said' until a few months ago. it took me five years to finally hit on the magic moment for 'sometimes'. mbv (the album) is a victim of its newness in that regard. had it come out in the 90s it'd be an uncontested classic by now.

Shallowed
02-04-2013, 08:32 PM
Try this order

new you
only tomorrow
if i am
in another way
is this and yes
wonder 2
nothing is
who sees you
she found now

pale_princess
02-04-2013, 08:33 PM
track 6 is my fave
new you.

i like this album a lot.

Shallowed
02-04-2013, 08:40 PM
i was reading some dude talking about how the record is broken into 3 parts (thus the title, m b v). the first is the three more standard sounding mbv songs, the second is the 'jazzy' pieces and the third is the ultimate mind fuck agro jungle stuff. it starts off somewhat normal by mbv standards and melts into weirdness. someone else had noted that kevin shields said this record was conceptual, and its feeling more and more true.

is it as good as loveless or isnt anything? probably, and lets not forget we've had 20 plus years to love those albums. honestly, i didn't even like 'i only said' until a few months ago. it took me five years to finally hit on the magic moment for 'sometimes'. mbv (the album) is a victim of its newness in that regard. had it come out in the 90s it'd be an uncontested classic by now.

That three part suite thing is just a load of shit that some journalist came up with as their own interpretation. While the last three definitely have a similar weirdness, I don't see the first three and the second three as being that different at all. The theory falls apart anyway because New You is the most similar to MBV's classic style, and Is This and Yes isn't similar to any other song on the album.

It's not as good as Loveless but Loveless is untouchable for me anyway. It's different, at least. I think it's as equally good as IA.

butthurt
02-04-2013, 09:24 PM
This album won't stand the test of time. Track eight sounds like a throwaway from The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo soundtrack.

GLOWer
02-04-2013, 11:26 PM
That three part suite thing is just a load of shit that some journalist came up with as their own interpretation. While the last three definitely have a similar weirdness, I don't see the first three and the second three as being that different at all. The theory falls apart anyway because New You is the most similar to MBV's classic style, and Is This and Yes isn't similar to any other song on the album.

It's not as good as Loveless but Loveless is untouchable for me anyway. It's different, at least. I think it's as equally good as IA.

i get that the 'suite' thing was either observed or created (whichever one you want) by a journalist not affiliated with the band, but it still makes a lot of sense to me.

i dont see 'new you' as being similar to anything else in mbv's catalogue. for one, its way, way more harmonically complex, second, theres a lightness to the production thats atypical for MBV. maybe 'dont ask why' is in a similar ballpark presentation wise, but that doesn't account for the fact that new you is almost...bear with me, funky. yeah. funky. structurally you could maybe get away with comparing it to 'i only said', but doing so is to dismiss what makes it interesting.

the bind that holds 4-6 together is that lightness of touch coupled with the jazzy chords. theres a smokiness to 'if i am', but its still comparably clean; compare that to 'only tomorrow' or any of the first three. they carry the hallmarks of the MBV loveless sound, (but with a wider harmonic palate), chief among them: distortion.

1-3: loveless with more chords.
4-6: a cleaner, poppier, jazzier MBV.
7-9: mind fuck.

Shallowed
02-05-2013, 12:31 AM
But every song is more harmonically complex than any of the songs from Loveless. Production-wise and style-wise, it's like a combination of Don't Ask Why, Off Your Face and Swallow. It's probably the only song that doesn't really contain any elements that they hadn't dabbled with before. I wouldn't know about it being funky, I'd say If I Am is pretty funky though.

The interesting thing about the song is that it's the only song that has an obvious hook. I listened to the live debut version on YouTube only once and had the keyboard bit stuck in my head. It's the most infectious song, it also has the highest mixed and easily discernible vocals.

Shallowed
02-05-2013, 01:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/WGL3RC7.jpg

LalaPumpkinhead
02-05-2013, 01:59 AM
they didn't do much evolving since the early 90's ... it's solid still ...

soniclovenoize
02-05-2013, 07:56 AM
they didn't do much evolving since the early 90's ... it's solid still ...

Let me guess, you only listened to the first three songs?

MusicMan4
02-05-2013, 03:45 PM
nothing is is amazing warsaw, fuck you

can't wait to fucking candyflip my ass off to it

soniclovenoize
02-05-2013, 03:50 PM
2nd listen was better than the first...

LalaPumpkinhead
02-06-2013, 01:20 AM
p4k gave this a 9.1 review http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17726-mbv/

lol

Trotskilicious
02-06-2013, 01:29 AM
yeah i figured you'd be the guy to read pitchfork and then complain about it

LalaPumpkinhead
02-06-2013, 02:51 AM
well I don't read this crap. I just had a feeling they are gonna give this album a fanboy review and they did

Shallowed
02-06-2013, 03:54 AM
<strike>Fuck off</strike>

<34ia 2013

Radiofred
02-06-2013, 06:27 AM
i get that the 'suite' thing was either observed or created (whichever one you want) by a journalist not affiliated with the band, but it still makes a lot of sense to me.

i dont see 'new you' as being similar to anything else in mbv's catalogue. for one, its way, way more harmonically complex, second, theres a lightness to the production thats atypical for MBV. maybe 'dont ask why' is in a similar ballpark presentation wise, but that doesn't account for the fact that new you is almost...bear with me, funky. yeah. funky. structurally you could maybe get away with comparing it to 'i only said', but doing so is to dismiss what makes it interesting.

the bind that holds 4-6 together is that lightness of touch coupled with the jazzy chords. theres a smokiness to 'if i am', but its still comparably clean; compare that to 'only tomorrow' or any of the first three. they carry the hallmarks of the MBV loveless sound, (but with a wider harmonic palate), chief among them: distortion.

1-3: loveless with more chords.
4-6: a cleaner, poppier, jazzier MBV.
7-9: mind fuck.

I agree with this.

For me the mind fuck section sounds completely rushed and unfinished. Even the production sounds different from the rest of the album.

I've only listened to it 3 times but I'm not getting that excited urgency to listen again. Both Isn't Anything & Loveless blew me away first listen, There was a lot to take in but it was damn exciting on repeat listens.

Like other posters said, I expected more evolution and this album will not stand the test of time.

Shallowed
02-06-2013, 01:23 PM
I really really really want to hear this album high.

meangreensp
02-06-2013, 08:36 PM
I like this album a lot but it sounds like Loveless B-sides. Still, best 90s band reunion. Gotta give them credit for bringing back their traditional sound. Something SP couldn't do.

I do love the first three songs for sounding like Loveless. Only Tomorrow rocks. But New You is delicious.

TuralyonW3
02-06-2013, 11:39 PM
ok so on further review I like tracks:

1
2
3
7
8 (kinda)

and that's about it. woulda been a good ep

TuralyonW3
02-06-2013, 11:39 PM
I really really really want to hear this album high.

yup that would help

GLOWer
02-07-2013, 12:07 AM
I agree with this.

For me the mind fuck section sounds completely rushed and unfinished. Even the production sounds different from the rest of the album.

I've only listened to it 3 times but I'm not getting that excited urgency to listen again. Both Isn't Anything & Loveless blew me away first listen, There was a lot to take in but it was damn exciting on repeat listens.

Like other posters said, I expected more evolution and this album will not stand the test of time.

i think its a transitional record for them. as far as whether it will stand the test of time, who's to say. if nothing else, its release is kind of a watershed moment. none of the songs are bad so it certainly wont be remembered as a failure.

Luke de Spa
02-07-2013, 01:27 AM
this really does sound like three trios of songs rather than an "album"

it's still damn great

Luke de Spa
02-07-2013, 01:30 AM
surprised by how raw (you know, relatively speaking) the guitars sound on a track like "only tomorrow", but also how the whole-chord pitch-dive trick still sounds original and distinctive over 20 years after loveless

azvd
02-07-2013, 05:49 AM
I'm glad it doesn't sound as straight-forward as Isn't Anything and it's also not a Loveless rip-off. It reminded me of The Breeders in their last two records when they sounded more obscure, older but still based on relevant musical ideas. Even not being THE perfect album, it's still a pretty essential record and superior to most of the recent music I've been listening to.

Shallowed
02-07-2013, 01:23 PM
This guy is awesome, show him some love.

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soniclovenoize
02-07-2013, 01:50 PM
He was listening to Loveless... when he was 4?

Shallowed
02-07-2013, 10:02 PM
They must have put him on that instead of breastmilk.

Shallowed
02-07-2013, 10:02 PM
i.e. he has awesome parents

Order 66
02-07-2013, 11:01 PM
he can review my albums any time

myosis
02-07-2013, 11:29 PM
regarding song trios, well mr. shields has always been more keen in making mini-records. make 'em short.

Luke de Spa
02-08-2013, 03:16 AM
pretty sure "if this and yes" is a tape dub of a piece from final fantasy viii with some vocals recorded over the top

smashingjj
02-08-2013, 03:28 AM
i think its a transitional record for them.

a TRANSITIONAL record. you know, an album clearly marking the transition between the sounds of its predecessor of 22 years earlier and the followup that will be released early 2048.

GLOWer
02-08-2013, 10:59 AM
a TRANSITIONAL record. you know, an album clearly marking the transition between the sounds of its predecessor of 22 years earlier and the followup that will be released early 2048.

Nah, they'll follow it up within the next five at least.

Shallowed
02-08-2013, 02:40 PM
I think you meant to say "at most"

GLOWer
02-08-2013, 03:18 PM
yeah, i did. thanks.

Rocket Launcher
02-08-2013, 03:35 PM
basically every song is good but the song order could be better..only tomorrow would be a much better starter. The whole thing was done pretty hasted though, they haven't even finished the artwork for the vinyl and CD when they were selling them, who else does that?

GLOWer
02-08-2013, 04:00 PM
basically every song is good but the song order could be better..only tomorrow would be a much better starter. The whole thing was done pretty hasted though, they haven't even finished the artwork for the vinyl and CD when they were selling them, who else does that?

radiohead.

toase
02-15-2013, 08:28 PM
I like it, specially the last 3 tracks

Sonic Johnny
02-17-2013, 01:00 AM
Saw them last night. Front row standing, right in front of Kevin. I had been awake for ~40 hours when they started and had been in the sun all day (festival), dehydration and exhaustion were setting in, not to mention having just seen Swans and Godspeed so I was pretty emotional fatigued. ANYWAY: the point of the story is that all these factors combined when they played To Here Knows When, and I just zoned out and went limp and I was like man if I die right now I wont even care I just want to be here forever because I will never know Bilinda's warm embrace so fuck it this is going to do just fine.

10/10 best concert experience ever would go again.

Trotskilicious
02-17-2013, 01:33 AM
christ what sort of heaven is a festival with swans, godspeed and mbv i'd just commit suicide immediately after

Sonic Johnny
02-17-2013, 01:51 AM
http://www.atpfestival.com/newsview/1208091500.php

they played back-to-back on the same stage. It was a good day/

Shallowed
02-27-2013, 04:27 PM
CD arrived in the mail today. The artwork inside is really colourful. Hardly any notes, which isn't surprising.

Rocket Launcher
12-30-2015, 02:09 PM
a longer interview from 1992 got posted a few days ago...quite annoying background noises but otherwise not bad.

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Run To Me
12-30-2015, 04:35 PM
Awwwww man I just shat my pants thinking this was a new thread....

Anyway, when's that remastered Loveless gonna drop? Haven't heard anything about it the past couple years. Need that shit on vinyl, son

hnibos
12-30-2015, 05:19 PM
I start crying whenever I listen to loveless, it's so beautiful.

redbreegull
12-30-2015, 05:53 PM
tbh I don't think the s/t album lives up to the other two. I liked it a lot when it came out but now that some time has gone by I just don't see it ever being a classic like Loveless or Isn't Anything.

FoolofaTook
12-31-2015, 09:34 AM
sorry, but I must disagree vehemently. mbv is classic shit, better than isn't anything. she found now and new you are perfect songs.

of course it isn't as good as loveless, but what is?

redbreegull
12-31-2015, 11:53 AM
Admittedly, Sometimes is a work of aesthetic triumph which could swallow the world in its infinity of pain and distorted guitars, and I didn't expect s/t to top something like that.

But overall the album is just not very memorable.

ninsp
12-31-2015, 02:28 PM
The first 30 seconds of Only Shallow are a thousand times more memorable than anything on MBV.

Run To Me
12-31-2015, 02:59 PM
I'm with Fool on this one, y'all r crazy.

I can't imagine a better follow-up to Loveless. Not only does it provide several new iterations of that sound, but the last 3 tracks harken back to the bizarre and noisier elements of their early recordings, while simultaneously sounding fresh and exciting.

Also "something comes and pins me to the sky." Fuck!

Run To Me
12-31-2015, 03:02 PM
I start crying whenever I listen to loveless, it's so beautiful.

I mentioned Loveless as a record that can make me cry to a friend with generally good taste and he scoffed me relentlessly for it. Apparently there's no crying to rock and roll allowed.

Anyway, I commend you for your sensitivity to great art and willingness to admit it shamelessly.

Rocket Launcher
12-31-2015, 07:26 PM
Awwwww man I just shat my pants thinking this was a new thread....

Anyway, when's that remastered Loveless gonna drop? Haven't heard anything about it the past couple years. Need that shit on vinyl, son

:erm:

Disco King
12-31-2015, 08:51 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't like pre-Loveless MBV all that much? I dunno, Isn't Anything is just too jangly and grating for me. Loveless and mbv are sonic perfection, though.

Run To Me
01-01-2016, 01:24 AM
It's an acquired acquired taste. Took me years but now I love the noisy/irritating stuff nearly as much as Loveless and mbv. The louder you crank it the better. The low fi sonic artifacts begin to blend at loud volume into something trance-inducing akin to the best moments on Loveless.

I recommend checking out the remastered EP collection. There's some essential non-loveless MBV on there.

FoolofaTook
01-01-2016, 08:38 AM
fuck yeah. the you made me realize ep fucking pwns. and never say goodbye is a beautiful song. also isn't anything has the better mbv song evar (!!!) guitar-wise: ALL I NEED.

smoke a bowl. listen to the song. focus on the guitars. worship kevin shields.

redbreegull
01-01-2016, 12:01 PM
I think Isn't Anything is a great album although lo-fi harshness isn't my favorite recording style. They have some good songs scattered throughout their releases from before that, but Loveless is really their singular masterpiece to me. Without Loveless they would seem like a much lesser band.

Aeris
01-01-2016, 06:03 PM
m b v is 100% as good as loveless
i have spoken and the issue is resolved

FoolofaTook
01-02-2016, 01:20 PM
yah ok like whatever

:rolleyes:

FoolofaTook
01-02-2016, 01:20 PM
r u 4 real?

4 real 4 real?