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null123 10-06-2012, 12:56 AM no really, go for it. Netphoria gossip, personal history, lowest moments, what my fuckin problem is, my favorite things... i'm showing my cards in this thread:banging: pavementtune 10-06-2012, 01:10 AM 1. Do you remember when, why and how you got interested in feminism or the first time you realized that "there's something wrong"? 2. Are you straight, be or lesbian? 3. Do you have siblings? 4. Are you going to vote? 5. If you could ask God or whatever all-knowing entity one question - what would it be? MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 01:12 AM wanna go on tinychat and party? MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 01:20 AM dude she said "anything" calm down a little bit D. 10-06-2012, 01:21 AM Is there ever anything that should not be joked about? If so, what and why? null123 10-06-2012, 01:26 AM 1. Do you remember when, why and how you got interested in feminism or the first time you realized that "there's something wrong"? 2. Are you straight, be or lesbian? 3. Do you have siblings? 4. Are you going to vote? 5. If you could ask God or whatever all-knowing entity one question - what would it be? you're not on any lists anymore 1. I've never really cared for the way men talk to me or interact with me and the girls/women I knew, and I think I started calling myself a feminist without too much hesitation in my teens. I didn't really talk about feminism or thoroughly internalize anything because I didn't actually relate to or like any of the typical feminist media I came across. Not until I discovered radical feminism which was only like a year ago now (aha). The moment I knew something was wrong when my friends and I were trying to buy weed in high school and we had to wait in the car for our male friend to meet the dealer because he wouldn't sell to females. 2. straight 3. I have a 21-year-old brother I grew up with as well as a 30ish half-sister I've never met because she was put up for adoption at birth. 4. I'm going to vote on more local issues, but not in the presidential election. 5. "What should I do?" null123 10-06-2012, 01:27 AM wanna go on tinychat and party? you party too hard for me pavementtune 10-06-2012, 01:27 AM dude she said "anything" calm down a little bit What? Are you talking to me? Cause I was talking to her. null123 10-06-2012, 01:29 AM Is there ever anything that should not be joked about? If so, what and why? There is no topic that shouldn't be joked about. It's really a question of who or what is the butt of the joke, and what is the message. ohnoitsbonnie 10-06-2012, 01:39 AM Why did you decide to watch Breaking Bad? null123 10-06-2012, 01:42 AM I heard it was good and also walt is just like my dad.. juicy thread comin through MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 01:45 AM i mean why the fuck would a pot dealer cut off such a large group of people i mean personal bias aside thats completely wrong for business i cant believe that MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 01:47 AM 3. I have a 21-year-old brother I grew up with as well as a 30ish half-sister I've never met because she was put up for adoption at birth. do you know much about her? are you interested in meeting her? null123 10-06-2012, 01:53 AM I don't know much. Her name is Michaeline, she lives/lived in Nebraska... also she wrote to my mom about 10 years ago but I don't know what the letters said and my mom definitely doesn't like to talk about it. I would like to meet her, though it'll never happen. My family connections are very few, pretty much just my mom and brother, so I value them. null123 10-06-2012, 02:08 AM whoever rated this thread one star should've asked me a good question instead noyen 10-06-2012, 02:31 AM who are you? mayfucks girlfriend? null123 10-06-2012, 02:36 AM i don't talk to that guy anymore noyen 10-06-2012, 02:41 AM i don't talk to that guy anymore why not? will you talk to me? i am coll. null123 10-06-2012, 02:44 AM lots of reasons. and sure why not noyen 10-06-2012, 02:54 AM what is your favorite band of favorite bands? who is your favorite dead artist? favorite living artist? is it okay that i feel threatened by feminism because it is mostly man hating even though i understand and wore the tshirt and understand there is never ever going to be a middle ground and will always be us (you) vs. them (me). and i'm okay with that and love kathleen hannah and patty shcemel and hate amanda palmer? that isnt a question, more a statement. Future Boy 10-06-2012, 03:00 AM last time you talked to mayfuck off netphoria who's on your do not engage list and what did they do to get there if you were in a swing state would you vote for pres, and for who do you think yosoy ever tries too hard in her annoy trots quest null123 10-06-2012, 03:07 AM what is your favorite band of favorite bands? who is your favorite dead artist? favorite living artist? is it okay that i feel threatened by feminism because it is mostly man hating even though i understand and wore the tshirt and understand there is never ever going to be a middle ground and will always be us (you) vs. them (me). and i'm okay with that and love kathleen hannah and patty shcemel and hate amanda palmer? that isnt a question, more a statement. favorite band is hard these days because I don't really listen to bands so much. the Cure is a strong contender, definitely top 3, so there's that my favorite dead artist is probably Matisse favorite contemporary artist changes more but right now I'm feeling Song Dong and it's definitely okay for you to find feminism threatening, that means you've been exposed to some legit feminism. MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 03:13 AM even though dworkin is (i think?) a radfem shes a big enough name that shes kind of entry level and who else should i be reading thats kind of a question at least also i might have asked you about this before in a xanax haze i have a few books from the online open course ware MIT thing but a few of them are really big on queer nonsense which like. i mean maybe this is bigot stuff coming from a position of privilege but a lot of it seems like straight white people just calling themselves something that allows them to feel more special am i an idiot for that last sentence null123 10-06-2012, 03:13 AM last time you talked to mayfuck off netphoria who's on your do not engage list and what did they do to get there if you were in a swing state would you vote for pres, and for who do you think yosoy ever tries too hard in her annoy trots quest like three weeks ago pretty much anyone who approaches me with an excessive amount of vitriol, faux outrage or manipulation. i don't have an actual list in my head, but there are quite a few people here who i won't bother with anymore in terms of explaining myself or really discussing anything too heavy. i still wouldn't vote for president i never tire of yosoy's trots assault Barack Obama 10-06-2012, 03:13 AM Most feminists are scary and rabid. The women on Jezebel are a good example of some of these people. Men are okay tho when they want to get knocked up. Otherwise all men are cheating, assholes, or rapists. Yea and they feel a need to talk about their monthly cycles and discuss how their tampons sit up inside of their vaginas. MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 03:14 AM i mean i'm always going to be an idiot on this so maybe dont bother hello to "mayfuck II" who is currently browsing null123 10-06-2012, 03:15 AM even though dworkin is (i think?) a radfem shes a big enough name that shes kind of entry level and who else should i be reading thats kind of a question at least also i might have asked you about this before in a xanax haze i have a few books from the online open course ware MIT thing but a few of them are really big on queer nonsense which like. i mean maybe this is bigot stuff coming from a position of privilege but a lot of it seems like straight white people just calling themselves something that allows them to feel more special am i an idiot for that last sentence no you are right about the queer thing. straight people have been folded under the queer banner it's pretty ridiculous. and the queer theory approach to gender is completely incompatible with radical feminism. Sheila Jeffreys is who everyone needs to read, she's brilliant and she's contemporary. unfortunately her books are harder to find but I am pretty sure someone put them online so I will try to find those links. MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 03:16 AM i can't decide if i really am just an idiot or i just decided i was one to be more comfortable i mean i have a million books on left wing politics but if i'm ever supposed to offer a real opinion it never goes beyond "hiyooooooo" because i get uncomfortable ugh sorry i'm going into what should be in my own thread but i mean i'm self obsessed and cant really talk about anything else im trying but i recognize my limitations as a real fully integrated member of society you know what im saying Barack Obama 10-06-2012, 03:19 AM Feminists are too butch for me. I like my women soft and sweet, and pleasing. noyen 10-06-2012, 03:22 AM favorite band is hard these days because I don't really listen to bands so much. the Cure is a strong contender, definitely top 3, so there's that my favorite dead artist is probably Matisse favorite contemporary artist changes more but right now I'm feeling Song Dong and it's definitely okay for you to find feminism threatening, that means you've been exposed to some legit feminism. the cure. yes. i am aging and i still listen to and relate. i am really into rothko. i have been exposed to feminism i feel ass threatening and unfair. which is just as bad as bro-ism. so i think i understand, it makes me want to stand up and fight, and shut up and cocoon into a ball at the same time. so i think i understand feminism from a certain standpoint of getting that you can fuck up my world with as much vigor and testosterone fueled blindness as a dude which i guess is humbling but still wrong in my brain. no one had figured anything out and i resent anyone who claims to have sorted out any madness. madness and confusion can go on forever. im cool with that. null123 10-06-2012, 03:29 AM Robert Smith's voice is still really young-sounding and perfect at current Cure shows, it's crazy I haven't seen any irl rothko so i feel like it's one of those things I can't comment on since I feel it probably doesn't translate well. it's sad too because the Portland Art Museum had an exhibit this year and I never made it over there. I don't really want this to become a feminism thread since every thread I post in turns into that...but yea noyen 10-06-2012, 03:35 AM sorry. not like youre the posterchild for it. just that its what i picked up on i ln five minutes. there is always more to the murk. MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 03:39 AM i mean the feminism in this thread is ok for now until bregul and eulogy pick up on it pavementtune 10-06-2012, 03:42 AM Did you ever punch/kick/physically hurt someone? If yes, in what context? (playground accidents don't count) Do you want to have kids? Is there something you don't like about yourself? (body or character) Do you daydream and if so, about what? null123 10-06-2012, 03:42 AM i mean the feminism in this thread is ok for now until bregul and eulogy pick up on it that's because we haven't actually said anything about it null123 10-06-2012, 04:00 AM Did you ever punch/kick/physically hurt someone? If yes, in what context? (playground accidents don't count) Do you want to have kids? Is there something you don't like about yourself? (body or character) Do you daydream and if so, about what? I can remember two incidents of intentionally hurting someone. - first time was in the fifth grade, I kicked this kid Jackson in the shin pretty hard at recess and I got sent to the principal's office, which terrified me but was very kumbaya in the end. - second time was when I visited Albuquerque with my mom when I was 15. she got piss drunk and we got in a fight and I wound up slapping her across the face. obviously I felt bad immediately after. edit: she tried to slap me back and she missed I wouldn't mind having kids possibly although I feel awkward around kids now because I never really interact with them. if I have kids I think I'd rather adopt but I don't really know. right now it's hard to imagine a scenario in which this would be a good thing. there are lots of things I don't like about myself...physically I especially don't like my lips or my posture. in my character I dislike how competitive and insecure I am. I daydream... it depends, I'll make up movies or music videos in my head, or daydream about certain people, or fantasize about schemes for escaping my own life MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 04:10 AM your mom cant even beat up her own kid thats weak null123 10-06-2012, 04:18 AM yeah I have a couple inches on her at this point. she has tried to fight me but it didn't work out for her. sucker punched me in the head once though Starla 10-06-2012, 05:09 AM Barack...I don't even use tampons.... I'm doing that free bleeding thing. When my period starts I put on a floor length skirt and let the blood flow freely... onto mother earth, giving back my life blood to her. Sometimes I squat in the garden and let it flow onto the tomato plants. You would not believe how well they grow and how great they taste. Going out can be a challenge... but if I wait until day four, I'm usually fine. It's minimal, and I can always pass off any blood on the floor at walmart as cutting my foot on something.... MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 05:29 AM favorite lil b song and video? vixnix 10-06-2012, 05:34 AM Hardcore. Crunchiest thing I'd heard of so far was emptying a menstrual cup into the garden. Well there's cloth pads too, that's pretty out there. What's your favourite movie? What's your favourite novel? Were you an academically successful high school student? Did you grow up rich in terms of your family's status in your hometown (hood neighborhood etc). What did/do your parents do for a living? Which psych meds have you taken if any? Who are your top five netphorian posters and why? How do you take your coffee? What's on the walls of your bedroom? MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 05:43 AM presumably she paints her walls with menstrual blood null123 10-06-2012, 05:53 AM favorite lil b song and video? favorite Lil B song is the hardest question ever. the answer I always used to give would be Im Heem which is still a classic but now I dunno... Wonton Soup is still up there (Blue Flame is forever my mixtape of choice) but... Tiny Pants Bitch, #1 Bitch, Please Respect the Bitch, Goldhouse... actually I think I'll go with Tiny Pants Bitch. I feel pretty strongly about that 1. favorite video is probably Unchain Me or maybe R.I.P. the Rap Game just because he looks cute in it, or Need My Love because wow null123 10-06-2012, 06:21 AM Hardcore. Crunchiest thing I'd heard of so far was emptying a menstrual cup into the garden. Well there's cloth pads too, that's pretty out there. What's your favourite movie? What's your favourite novel? Were you an academically successful high school student? Did you grow up rich in terms of your family's status in your hometown (hood neighborhood etc). What did/do your parents do for a living? Which psych meds have you taken if any? Who are your top five netphorian posters and why? How do you take your coffee? What's on the walls of your bedroom? I don't watch a ton of movies or read a lot of fiction, buuuut probably Mulholland Drive for the movie and the last novel I enjoyed a lot was The Path to the Spiders Nest I was an okay student. I was super depressed and withdrawn in high school and got worse and worse about actually doing work over the course of HS but managed to escape with a 3.0 and I left a semester early. I took a full honors/IB course load but just never really did the work. my dad has worked for Tektronix since I was little, they make test equipment. my mom worked as a dental tech before I was born but stopped working when I was born and only returned to that line of work within the last 2 years when my parents got divorced. we were solidly upper middle class at one point, safe neighborhood, didn't have to worry about money much at all. it's almost weird to me to think of it as status as all four people in my family had no friends but that's neither here nor there. the only ones I really have taken for any meaningful amount of time are lorazepam which I was on for a summer a couple years back and generic Wellbutrin which I was on for one fucked up month earlier this year. top five netphorians, past and present hmm idek current posters would be Starla, yo soy and Luke de Spa Mayfuck before I started posting here topleybird was pretty creative and had a sweet earnest quality wHATcOLOR has some good hits something like that I drink black coffee, iced or hot. I got really addicted to caffeine this summer and my walls are covered with my own paintings and drawings. I lie awake and critique them ilikeplanets 10-06-2012, 06:30 AM have you ever cut yourself? do you prefer short or long hair? do you think life exists outside of earth? would you rather be stranded in a desert or the middle of a huge city? null123 10-06-2012, 06:34 AM yes on myself? I think I look best with it about 1-2 inches past my shoulders. in general I like both. a lot of dudes keep their hair a little too short though. I think life exists outside of earth and outside of this realm being stranded in the desert sounds like a death sentence and a huge city sounds like a party so I'll go with the city null123 10-06-2012, 06:48 AM menstrual cups are for throwing in the faces of your enemies Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:05 AM i was going to ask a question but found it annoying that you endorse someone relentlessly trolling me which essentially confirmed my suspicions null123 10-06-2012, 07:06 AM oh boohoo Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:08 AM well i have one, are you still really pissed off at me for making fun of you looking like a boy ? because i don't really blame you null123 10-06-2012, 07:09 AM lol what? when did you say that? MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 07:11 AM i'll admit that i crossed my fingers looking for the answer to vixie's top 5 questions ;_ null123 10-06-2012, 07:11 AM my face has some androgynous characteristics perhaps MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 07:11 AM i'll always be number one on my own list which is the most important wheres my Pexeva Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:13 AM lol what? when did you say that? i dunno some years ago, in some picture thread or another. you intimated recently that you have body dysmorphia and it kind of resurfaced in my weed addled memory and i felt positively rotten about it it's one of many reasons i'm trying my best not to be relentlessly ugly to anyone and everyone for anything but if you don't even recall well then it didn't matter much did it? null123 10-06-2012, 07:15 AM i think i remember you calling me ugly or something like that. a couple people here have. i'm mostly beyond dysmorphia wrt my face, that was more my teen years. MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 07:15 AM positively rotten relentlessly ugly no matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now <img src="http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4828/icontwisted.gif"> reprise85 10-06-2012, 07:27 AM do you have any advice you'd give to a 13 year old? what period in time would you want to visit for one week? what are the details of your living situation (apt/house roommates/no roommates etc)? MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 07:30 AM her roommate is a "chatty cathy" Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:34 AM so what's all the juicy gossip you have about bonnie & ever, nosy people demand to know MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 07:36 AM that might be a mutually assured destruction scenario Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:37 AM i'm just a big gossip queen it's terrible null123 10-06-2012, 07:43 AM do you have any advice you'd give to a 13 year old? what period in time would you want to visit for one week? what are the details of your living situation (apt/house roommates/no roommates etc)? well i can only advise my 13 year old self to which i say trust yourself and avoid the internet I would visit late prehistory...figure out what happened there I live with a 24 year old girl named Josie who is pretty sweet, a chatty cathy yes, has horrible taste in men but really what's new. we just went through a weird cycle of roommates. we had a schizophrenic guy (brother of Josie's friend) off his meds staying here. we didn't know he was schizophrenic til he was here and he scared the shit out of us (not respecting boundaries and just a general bad bad vibe) and then it turns out his family (supposedly people Josie's known for a long time and is totally BFFs with) have a restraining order against this dude because he beat his disabled father. he's been gone for a week. just got a new roommate and Josie is really attracted to him so I look forward to the ensuing drama. edit: I live in a fairly spacious apartment on the cheap reprise85 10-06-2012, 07:45 AM oh boy null123 10-06-2012, 07:45 AM so what's all the juicy gossip you have about bonnie & ever, nosy people demand to know I don't want to air all Bonnie's laundry. basically Ever is literally an MRA and thinks women who have more than one relationship in their lives are damaged goods who are doomed to be alone and he uses creepy ev psych BS to defend this perspective. this isn't the only problem with him but it's one thing. Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:45 AM oh dear people hooking up with roommates is a fuckin disaster every goddamn time Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 07:49 AM I don't want to air all Bonnie's laundry. basically Ever is literally an MRA and thinks women who have more than one relationship in their lives are damaged goods who are doomed to be alone and he uses creepy ev psych BS to defend this perspective. this isn't the only problem with him but it's one thing. ew gross, i kind of thought he was going out into retardville ever since a few years ago he came back for a short period of time blabbering endlessly about libertarianism null123 10-06-2012, 07:49 AM thank god i avoid these situations cause i'm androphilic demisexual reprise85 10-06-2012, 08:20 AM edit nevermind MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 08:23 AM are you attracted to demi lovato MusicMan4 10-06-2012, 08:23 AM i will rise like a skyscraper ohnoitsbonnie 10-06-2012, 09:58 AM Hey charmbag, has your address changed? reprise85 10-06-2012, 10:15 AM that sounds like a threat sppunk 10-06-2012, 11:11 AM Good stuff so far. 1) Your favorite city in the world? 2) Do you have a comfort food your mom/dad/grandparents/whomever used to make back in the "good ol' days?" 3) Are you in college? If not do you have a job? 4) Any particular reason you don't like me? I only ask because our direct interaction has been probably one if the smallest of anyone on this board. 5) What's your favorite beverage, not counting water or coffee? myosis 10-06-2012, 12:51 PM do you have any male friends (or guys whom you care the way they interact with you)? Luke de Spa 10-06-2012, 06:47 PM have you been to apizza scholls yet Dead Frequency 10-06-2012, 07:19 PM oh dear people hooking up with roommates is a fuckin disaster every goddamn time No doubt null123 10-06-2012, 07:43 PM are you attracted to demi lovato no but she's alright by me null123 10-06-2012, 07:43 PM Hey charmbag, has your address changed? yes null123 10-06-2012, 07:53 PM Good stuff so far. 1) Your favorite city in the world? 2) Do you have a comfort food your mom/dad/grandparents/whomever used to make back in the "good ol' days?" 3) Are you in college? If not do you have a job? 4) Any particular reason you don't like me? I only ask because our direct interaction has been probably one if the smallest of anyone on this board. 5) What's your favorite beverage, not counting water or coffee? 1. probably Tokyo even though I've never been, I just like looking at it. 2. not really since my parents didn't really cook. hot and sour soup reminds me of my fave chinese restaurant as a kid 3. I am in college. I wound up switching my major and transferring to community college for a spell which I'm almost done with and then i'll finish somewhere else. it's taking forever but at least I'm happy with my decision 4. pretty sure I just pegged you as a misogynist and a libertarian at some point but I kind of forget. there are a lot of people on this board I don't interact with. 5. Coke Zero but it has to be from McDonalds null123 10-06-2012, 08:01 PM do you have any male friends (or guys whom you care the way they interact with you)? well I used to think pretty highly of my brother but that's kind of been ruined. male friendships pretty much never pan out and several have ended in the past year. but I do have some acquaintances and teachers who are male that I like and don't feel disrespected by thus far. null123 10-06-2012, 08:03 PM have you been to apizza scholls yet yup! I've been twice and it was amazing both times. sadly I have discovered I'm allergic to wheat so I will have to weigh the consequences if I want to go again. Eric Blair 10-06-2012, 08:03 PM I remember someone saying something about how you were religious once. What's the deal with that? Shallowed 10-06-2012, 08:14 PM Sorry. Luke de Spa 10-06-2012, 08:59 PM yup! I've been twice and it was amazing both times. sadly I have discovered I'm allergic to wheat so I will have to weigh the consequences if I want to go again. awesome. (not the wheat allergy.) i am envious. (not about the wheat allergy.) i just got home after a month in europe – among other things, i went to a bunch of amazing pizzerias in naples and rome. scholls has dropped to #2 on my list. i wish i could go back there right now. on a related note, what are the best places to eat in portland? sppunk 10-06-2012, 09:03 PM 1. probably Tokyo even though I've never been, I just like looking at it. 2. not really since my parents didn't really cook. hot and sour soup reminds me of my fave chinese restaurant as a kid 3. I am in college. I wound up switching my major and transferring to community college for a spell which I'm almost done with and then i'll finish somewhere else. it's taking forever but at least I'm happy with my decision 4. pretty sure I just pegged you as a misogynist and a libertarian at some point but I kind of forget. there are a lot of people on this board I don't interact with. 5. Coke Zero but it has to be from McDonalds I have libertarian tendencies on so e things but I'm very far from a misogynist. Just for future references. ;) Follow up: What will be your major and what (ideally) do you want to do? Trotskilicious 10-06-2012, 09:20 PM well i'm a misogynist too or whatever Future Boy 10-06-2012, 09:25 PM 5. Coke Zero but it has to be from McDonalds you mean fountain drinks, or specifically mcdonalds noyen 10-06-2012, 10:11 PM i lived a few blocks south of apizza scholls. best pizza nazis ever. null123 10-06-2012, 10:28 PM I remember someone saying something about how you were religious once. What's the deal with that? Yes. I was raised protestant - evangelical, sola scriptura whatever. My mother has always been deeply religious while my father was a 'hardcore atheist' until around the same time I stopped believing at age 14, at which point he "became a Christian". Then I went through a very angry New Atheist phase in which I was openly hostile to religion and blamed it for everything, which lasted like 3 years. Then I started to see it differently and stopped hating on religion. Now I am kinda reconsidering the whole issue for myself. TuralyonW3 10-06-2012, 10:45 PM Do you have anything against me other than that I don't think all porn is unequivocally evil? What are your thoughts on Portlandia as a Portlander? (err Portlandian?) What's the current status of your reevaluation of religion? What's an MRA? (men's rights activist?) Why did you take psych meds? Finally why wouldn't you vote for prez if you were in a swing state, considering the possible impact on women's issues among their things? Also Mulholland drive is definitely in my top 3 or 5 films (and I'm a massive film nerd) so O/ null123 10-06-2012, 10:49 PM awesome. (not the wheat allergy.) i am envious. (not about the wheat allergy.) i just got home after a month in europe – among other things, i went to a bunch of amazing pizzerias in naples and rome. scholls has dropped to #2 on my list. i wish i could go back there right now. on a related note, what are the best places to eat in portland? yeah I keep hearing they can go toe to toe with italy which is pretty impressive. it truly is amazing pizza. i would put it at or towards the top of best portland restaurants. I'm really not qualified to give any definitive list but two places I have fond feelings for at the moment are Yen Ha which is a Vietnamese place on Sandy that is cheap and delicious and the best service ever, not centrally located at all, sadly really far away from my apartment. Another good place to go is Pied Cow right on SE Belmont. it's a coffee house/bar/hookah place in a Victorian house with really great outdoor seating and great/unique drinks. good food too, especially desserts. null123 10-06-2012, 10:53 PM I have libertarian tendencies on so e things but I'm very far from a misogynist. Just for future references. ;) Follow up: What will be your major and what (ideally) do you want to do? I'm working toward a BFA, either a general one or I'm going concentrate in sculpture or painting, it depends where I get in and wind up going. I'll then probably go to grad school so that I can do the whole teaching thing and be able to work as a fine artist and show in galleries etc null123 10-06-2012, 10:56 PM you mean fountain drinks, or specifically mcdonalds McDonalds. they have a high level of quality control on all their drinks, the water purity and the syrup ratio and that sort of thing. TuralyonW3 10-06-2012, 11:04 PM I'm working toward a BFA, either a general one or I'm going concentrate in sculpture or painting, it depends where I get in and wind up going. I'll then probably go to grad school so that I can do the whole teaching thing and be able to work as a fine artist and show in galleries etc Have you ever posted your own work on here and if not would you mind posting an example? ohnoitsbonnie 10-06-2012, 11:18 PM http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mben4gp7EW1r45g3go1_400.png http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mben4gp7EW1r45g3go2_400.png null123 10-06-2012, 11:21 PM Do you have anything against me other than that I don't think all porn is unequivocally evil? What are your thoughts on Portlandia as a Portlander? (err Portlandian?) What's the current status of your reevaluation of religion? What's an MRA? (men's rights activist?) Finally why wouldn't you vote for prez if you were in a swing state, considering the possible impact on women's issues among their things? Also Mulholland drive is definitely in my top 3 or 5 films (and I'm a massive film nerd) so O/ not really besides the fact that you're a dude I suppose. I appreciate you not being so hysterical when dealing with differing opinions unlike a lot of people here. it's okay. I don't watch it on a regular basis... I guess living here I find the whole culture kind of gross and annoying and I don't really like to think about it. it's like a Stuff White People Like kind of comedy. I will say that the feminist bookstore thing is totally inaccurate. they film that part at In Other Words which is a liberal pomo sex poz queer type feminist bookstore where angry manhating radicals are not particularly accepted (which is the norm in Portland and the entire Western world really). my friend is training to volunteer there though so maybe we can change that. the religion thing is kind of hard to explain or talk about, especially here. I'll just say that I have a lot of positive feelings about religion in general, and I think New Atheism is the smuggest most backward thinking ever and its heroes are all douches. MRA stands for Men's Rights Activist. basically these are people who think that men are really oppressed, who see society as a zero sum game and think that women have gotten too big for our britches. they're the types to say things like white or western women need to be exterminated because we are just too willfull and entitled, and then fetishize asian and latina women as subservient little wifey whores. they usually cite "anti-male bias" in custody trials, and compulsory military service, while completely ignoring the context in which these things happen. I wouldn't vote for president because ultimately I think more women, American and otherwise, are being harmed by war and capitalism than by anti-abortion laws. we should have both but I'm not going to be blackmailed into voting for someone because of abortion access. *\o null123 10-06-2012, 11:24 PM Have you ever posted your own work on here and if not would you mind posting an example? I snuck a drawing I had done that day into the art thread. it's really hard to document paintings and sculpture properly especially since I don't have a decent camera, but I'm gonna be working on that this fall. ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 04:42 AM whatever happened to keeping information you are privy to private (Thanx rерriѕе!) D. 10-07-2012, 04:56 AM if you went to jail for, let's say, 50 years, would you serve yo time or kill yourself? Trotskilicious 10-07-2012, 05:14 AM are you from portland originally? because everything on portlandia reminds me of the people i want to leave austin texas forever because i am FROM HERE GODDAMN YOU MOTHERFUCKING TOURISTS vixnix 10-07-2012, 05:27 AM http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mben4gp7EW1r45g3go1_400.png http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mben4gp7EW1r45g3go2_400.png Is this really yours charmbag? It's great I love it. null123 10-07-2012, 06:59 AM what no null123 10-07-2012, 07:00 AM whatever happened to keeping information you are privy to private (Thanx rерriѕе!) I didn't know it had to be some big secret that Avram is a tool. null123 10-07-2012, 07:01 AM if you went to jail for, let's say, 50 years, would you serve yo time or kill yourself? I'd probably try it out and see if I could handle it before giving up on life null123 10-07-2012, 07:03 AM are you from portland originally? because everything on portlandia reminds me of the people i want to leave austin texas forever because i am FROM HERE GODDAMN YOU MOTHERFUCKING TOURISTS born in Denver, moved to Portland in elementary school, moved to NH for middle school, back to Portland when I was 13. so basically yeah I'm from here. I don't see any reason to think that Portland culture is a product of tourism though. ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:08 AM yup! I've been twice and it was amazing both times. sadly I have discovered I'm allergic to wheat so I will have to weigh the consequences if I want to go again. Do you have an allergy or are you sensitive to gluten? ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:09 AM I didn't know it had to be some big secret that Avram is a tool. He's got emotional problems like everyone else. null123 10-07-2012, 07:14 AM mhm okay girl Do you have an allergy or are you sensitive to gluten? haven't exactly figured this out. I avoid all gluten at this point but I'm trying to do an elimination diet ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:18 AM Well do you have an allergic reaction or a gut reaction? If you're suspicious why not get a blood test done ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:19 AM Most people use the terms interchangeably but they're two very different reactions null123 10-07-2012, 07:20 AM o i thought you meant is it just wheat or all gluten. it's an allergic reaction, not a gut thing. ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:22 AM So what are your symptoms? null123 10-07-2012, 07:24 AM basically i get all puffy and feel like i'm gonna die ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:24 AM Can you be less vague? null123 10-07-2012, 07:26 AM nope ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:27 AM Do you have any other diagnosed conditions? null123 10-07-2012, 07:29 AM psychological ones ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:32 AM What tax brackets are your parents in? null123 10-07-2012, 07:34 AM I don't know. any other incredibly dry questions before I close this tab ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:35 AM Is it ethical for a therapist to friend request a patient on facebook? null123 10-07-2012, 07:37 AM it doesn't seem so. yeah my therapist is fucking weird but oh well she's okay sometimes ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:40 AM Why did you think it was ok to harass me because I wouldn't talk to you? ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:40 AM Juice null123 10-07-2012, 07:45 AM lol. perhaps the same reason you were begging me to talk to you this time around, when the last thing you are owed is my attention. ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:47 AM Yeah I sent some messages "begging" to talk to you. Not hostile, threatening ones, lol null123 10-07-2012, 07:48 AM i never threatened you ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 07:49 AM Charmbag, are you messing with me or somethin?? Because I can be your board enemy if u want null123 10-07-2012, 07:51 AM we're already board enemies Dead Frequency 10-07-2012, 08:28 AM Anything? null123 10-07-2012, 08:31 AM anything myosis 10-07-2012, 08:36 AM what you doing tonight? Sonic Johnny 10-07-2012, 08:37 AM Who shot JFK? How do you like your eggs? (out of poached, fried, or scrambled) Is morality an innate biological imperative for the purpose of cultivating large-scale human coexistence, or is it a social construct created reflexive to a realisation of individual autonomy at some point far back in human history? What is your favourite colour? null123 10-07-2012, 08:41 AM what you doing tonight? i was hanging out with my roommate and her friend having a heart-to-heart and now i'm listening to the fall and nursing a drink null123 10-07-2012, 08:43 AM Who shot JFK? How do you like your eggs? (out of poached, fried, or scrambled) Is morality an innate biological imperative for the purpose of cultivating large-scale human coexistence, or is it a social construct created reflexive to a realisation of individual autonomy at some point far back in human history? What is your favourite colour? i don't know, i never took much interest in this issue i'm gonna go with fried i think some aspects of morality have developed with human evolution. not all, but some. my favorite color...probably yellow at the moment null123 10-07-2012, 08:44 AM *in my experience the best way to fry an egg involves poaching it at the end myosis 10-07-2012, 08:47 AM wait, you're not in bed yet? it's almost 9 in the morning here, i was asking about tonight (sunday) null123 10-07-2012, 08:53 AM no it's almost 6 am here and i can't sleep hnibos 10-07-2012, 10:04 AM It seems like Charmbag is solidifying herself as the realest person on here. So often I get the vibe that everyone is putting up some sort of weird and unnecessary front on here and it's why I am posting less/trying to post less. Good stuff in this thread. I only have one question. What the biggest motivator in your life? null123 10-07-2012, 10:13 AM thanks hnibos. that's a good compliment I think right now the biggest motivator for me is to find some regularity, stability and a strong sense of direction in my life. hnibos 10-07-2012, 10:27 AM It's funny when you have a fleeting moment where you think you have a solid direction in life and how calming everything feels at that moment. I do have another question. You mentioned you dislike how competitive you are. What are you competitive about? I ask because I'm highly competitive too and I find it fun. I love the adrenaline rush. null123 10-07-2012, 10:37 AM that is a great feeling. and honestly it's more a question of what i'm not competitive about. as soon as I recognize a certain trait to be considered valuable, i start feeling that competitiveness. the biggest ones would probably be intelligence, appearance and artistic ability. I've been touchy about all three since I was little. I agree that it does give me a certain rush but it bites me in the ass being so approval-oriented. sppunk 10-07-2012, 10:49 AM Taking into your view of men and relationships, it seems to me it's be emotionally difficult to maintain a romantic relationship or even allow for intimate situations. Has your worldview altered your dating or sexual life in any significant way? This is in no way attacking you, and if it's out of bounds just ignore it entirely. null123 10-07-2012, 11:04 AM yeah it's a problem. but funnily enough I've been pretty consistent in my life in terms of not really actively seeking out romantic relationships. although now I figure I could well be on the path to spinsterdom. it's not for lack of interest, I just have certain expectations that are rarely met. in many cases, feminism has more put words to feelings I've always had rather than changing my mind. "dating" per se is awful to me because it sets up men and women to lock into the predetermined hetero roles which seems to make people act completely idiotic and it's off-putting. but I haven't committed to political lesbianism or anything like that just yet. MyOneAndOnly 10-07-2012, 11:41 AM what's wrong with this (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/victor-joseph-espinoza-425-pound-gang-member-kidnap_n_1945240.html) guy's neck? http://i.huffpost.com/gen/804568/thumbs/o-VICTOR-JOSEPH-ESPINOZA-425-GANG-MEMBER-570.jpg?13 ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 11:51 AM Is it ethical to flirt with a teacher? null123 10-07-2012, 11:57 AM sure why not null123 10-07-2012, 11:58 AM what's wrong with this (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/victor-joseph-espinoza-425-pound-gang-member-kidnap_n_1945240.html) guy's neck? http://i.huffpost.com/gen/804568/thumbs/o-VICTOR-JOSEPH-ESPINOZA-425-GANG-MEMBER-570.jpg?13 he needs to have his chakras cleansed ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:00 PM sure why not Why would someone do this you think? null123 10-07-2012, 12:08 PM you are so weird. why don't you just ask me about that teacher I was crushing on TuralyonW3 10-07-2012, 12:15 PM "dating" per se is awful to me because it sets up men and women to lock into the predetermined hetero roles which seems to make people act completely idiotic and it's off-putting. Just sounds to me like you're dating the wrong guys :think: ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:20 PM Because I don't want to hear about it anymore null123 10-07-2012, 12:23 PM let me put it this way. 99% of heterosexual couples creep me the fuck out null123 10-07-2012, 12:24 PM Because I don't want to hear about it anymore so why are you passive aggressively alluding to it? gawd. move along ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:25 PM let me put it this way. 99% of heterosexual couples creep me the fuck out I agree ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:26 PM so why are you passive aggressively alluding to it? gawd. move along I'm asking questions jeez ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:29 PM IAmA charmbag ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:31 PM Ok so do you want to kill someone when they flirt with you? Or like try hook up with you or whatever? Like I hate when anyone thinks that just because I'm on this planet that I would want them. Yeah so I'm being real here charmbag. Question ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:32 PM Sorry I don't mean kill but it really gets me angry ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:33 PM Listen I'm asking you for advice here null123 10-07-2012, 12:40 PM usually yes. somehow it always has undertones (or overtones) of self-entitlement. it seems like as soon as they choose to "go for it" they completely stop seeing you as human and you're just a target or even an obstacle...an obstacle to what they want, which is you (??). so there is automatically some subtle contempt in there too. fucked up Luke de Spa 10-07-2012, 12:44 PM I just have certain expectations that are rarely met. let me put it this way. 99% of heterosexual couples creep me the fuck out what and why? ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:49 PM usually yes. somehow it always has undertones (or overtones) of self-entitlement. it seems like as soon as they choose to "go for it" they completely stop seeing you as human and you're just a target or even an obstacle...an obstacle to what they want, which is you (??). so there is automatically some subtle contempt in there too. fucked up This actually explains a lot. My mom even told me once she didn't like this (MALE) person because she got the idea he felt like he was "entitled" to me. But I don't feel like females ever do this or at least if they "go for it" there isn't the same intent ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:52 PM There's this kind of sexuality that is like the only reason you have feelings for someone is if you have bonded deeply with the person. It's not about their looks or achievements or even sex. See but I forgot the name of this but does this sound good to you? This is like what human sexuality would be like if the world was perfect ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 12:57 PM Ugh you know what was the worst thing about breaking bad (so far bcuz I'm only on season 3) it was like when skyler and walt were in the kitchen and then he tries to rape her. Rape his pregnant wife. Like throughout the show and all he constantly undermines and lies to her and is an all around dickhead but it is like It boils down to that. That scene. He's a piece of shit null123 10-07-2012, 01:11 PM what and why? for the first one, there is a combination of "feminist"/self-respect reasons and also just personal pickyness. it's staggering how many men are eliminated by the basic criterion "does not watch porn". I also get a strong feeling of condescension from most men. this is extra annoying to me because another qualification is being as smart or hopefully a little smarter than me, and, let's be real, most men aren't. and then they talk to me like I'm a baby. but if that isn't their particular fucked up issue, it's usually that they want me to mommy them. I confess to having a weakness for those kinds of relationships (in general) but it's not attractive, I just feel obligated. I can't deal with someone who doesn't have a certain level of self-confidence, a strong point of view and sense of right and wrong. they probably should value aesthetics too, I don't know why but this seems to matter a lot. then they have to be physically attractive, of course. fortunately I don't have a narrow physical "type" or anything like that but put all of this together and it winds up being pretty narrow overall. the second part is a really visceral thing. I'm sure under the hood a lot of why I have this gut repulsion has to do with most het relationships being severely distorted by misogyny and women's worship of men and male approval. TuralyonW3 10-07-2012, 01:13 PM There's this kind of sexuality that is like the only reason you have feelings for someone is if you have bonded deeply with the person. It's not about their looks or achievements or even sex. See but I forgot the name of this but does this sound good to you? This is like what human sexuality would be like if the world was perfect is that related to "demisexual" as charmbag already pointed out she was? null123 10-07-2012, 01:15 PM There's this kind of sexuality that is like the only reason you have feelings for someone is if you have bonded deeply with the person. It's not about their looks or achievements or even sex. See but I forgot the name of this but does this sound good to you? This is like what human sexuality would be like if the world was perfect I agree with this on some level but I feel like sexuality is kind of inseparable from the physicality of it. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. but what's bad is when sex trumps everything else about life. sexual/romantic relationships are held up as the peak of human existence, like it doesn't get any deeper or more significant or enjoyable than that, which is clearly bullshit. Ugh you know what was the worst thing about breaking bad (so far bcuz I'm only on season 3) it was like when skyler and walt were in the kitchen and then he tries to rape her. Rape his pregnant wife. Like throughout the show and all he constantly undermines and lies to her and is an all around dickhead but it is like It boils down to that. That scene. He's a piece of shit he's pure evil. what's even worse to me is that the people who watch the show not only don't understand that, but they actually hate Skyler and root for Walt. like I don't want to share a planet with any of these people. ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 01:15 PM Think you posted that a little too soon ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM I agree with this on some level but I feel like sexuality is kind of inseparable from the physicality of it. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. but what's bad is when sex trumps everything else about life. sexual/romantic relationships are held up as the peak of human existence, like it doesn't get any deeper or more significant or enjoyable than that, which is clearly bullshit. he's pure evil. what's even worse to me is that the people who watch the show not only don't understand that, but they actually hate Skyler and root for Walt. like I don't want to share a planet with any of these people. Bolding for impact ohnoitsbonnie 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM Yeah that's the world. I rly, rly hate it null123 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM is that related to "demisexual" as charmbag already pointed out she was? lol. i said demisexual as a joke because these people (basically queer internet social justice warriors) have to put labels on totally typical human behaviors and attitudes in order to maintain special snowflake status. apparently "demisexual" is a term for someone who doesn't really develop sexual attraction without emotional attachment. as opposed to what, hella hella sexual. Order 66 10-07-2012, 02:32 PM people who watch the show not only don't understand that, but they actually hate Skyler and root for Walt. like I don't want to share a planet with any of these people. well she is an extremely unlikable character. though by the end i think more people started sympathizing with her more than walt i would think you would hate the show altogether because not one female character isnt an idiot. except for that mexican girl jesse hooks up with i guess but she's kind of floating around in the background Luke de Spa 10-07-2012, 02:38 PM for the first one, there is a combination of "feminist"/self-respect reasons and also just personal pickyness. … the second part is a really visceral thing. I'm sure under the hood a lot of why I have this gut repulsion has to do with most het relationships being severely distorted by misogyny and women's worship of men and male approval. thanks. what i'd figured you'd say, but the 99% figure threw me. then again, i would expect to be much less attuned to (subtler) power imbalances in relationships than you, so i suppose that makes sense after all duovamp 10-07-2012, 02:49 PM Oh look it's this thread again. Eulogy 10-07-2012, 03:37 PM Then I went through a very angry New Atheist phase in which I was openly hostile to religion and blamed it for everything, which lasted like 3 years. No one else thinks this may be indicative of a trend? Also, what do you do in your daily life to further your ideological objectives? And ultimately, what are your objectives? dean_r_koontz 10-07-2012, 04:19 PM there are a lot of female idiot characters in the sopranos, that's good. pavementtune 10-07-2012, 04:28 PM another qualification is being as smart or hopefully a little smarter than me, and, let's be real, most men aren't. Wow. Dead Frequency 10-07-2012, 05:54 PM anything Did you ever have one of those weird troll dolls null123 10-07-2012, 07:29 PM No one else thinks this may be indicative of a trend? Also, what do you do in your daily life to further your ideological objectives? And ultimately, what are your objectives? yeah that trend is called human development you little twerp and i kill men to reach my ideological objective of killing all men null123 10-07-2012, 07:30 PM Wow. are you saying I'm dumber than average? rude null123 10-07-2012, 07:32 PM Did you ever have one of those weird troll dolls yeah it had pink hair and a heart belly button. I bought it with my mom specifically because I (we) felt I had nothing to bring to show-and-tell in pre-school. yo soy el mejor 10-07-2012, 07:39 PM do you think you and i would be friends irl? Netphorian Gadabout 10-07-2012, 07:39 PM Anything? yo soy el mejor 10-07-2012, 07:40 PM which question has been your favorite so far? null123 10-07-2012, 07:40 PM thanks. what i'd figured you'd say, but the 99% figure threw me. then again, i would expect to be much less attuned to (subtler) power imbalances in relationships than you, so i suppose that makes sense after all well, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt anyway. i'm sure i sound crazy and bitter to a lot of people here but eh what can you do null123 10-07-2012, 07:45 PM do you think you and i would be friends irl? I'd like to think so! you remind me of some of the people I get along with best irl. your sense of humor and that sort of thing null123 10-07-2012, 07:49 PM which question has been your favorite so far? there have been a few good ones. this last page and a half was kinda depressing and hostile but before that I was enjoying the thread. I liked pondering Lil B songs so I pick that one. reprise85 10-07-2012, 07:58 PM would we be friends irl? null123 10-07-2012, 08:02 PM Why did you take psych meds? looking back through this thread I noticed I missed one. the reason is primarily for depression and an eating disorder Anything? pretty much. I think I've answered everything although I kinda rebuffed Eulogy Netphorian Gadabout 10-07-2012, 08:07 PM pretty much. I think I've answered everything although I kinda rebuffed Eulogy I believe the correct response should have been: Thank you. You asked someone to ask you "anything?" and I did. Geez, show a little gratitude. null123 10-07-2012, 08:07 PM would we be friends irl? probably. you seem like a pretty understanding, live-and-let-live kind of person which I respect although it's possible it would get on my nerves. I'm like that in some ways but obviously not in other ways. null123 10-07-2012, 08:08 PM I believe the correct response should have been: Thank you. You asked someone to ask you "anything?" and I did. Geez, show a little gratitude. oic butthurt 10-07-2012, 08:17 PM If you saw me creeping around your house/apartment building at night, would you call the police, ignore me, or confront me yourself? http://www.usaspyshop.com/images/NightCougar01.jpg Eulogy 10-07-2012, 08:46 PM how does this make you feel (skip to 00:40 if you get impatient)? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zRB9UdlCThs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> null123 10-07-2012, 10:08 PM Whaaaaat. That was pretty poignant. Congrats to the toilet paper car My dad was a huge Indy car fan when I was a kid and I went to a couple races which was fun. I feel like NASCAR is like curling in terms of it being misunderstood and actually rather hypnotic to watch null123 10-07-2012, 10:11 PM If you saw me creeping around your house/apartment building at night, would you call the police, ignore me, or confront me yourself? http://www.usaspyshop.com/images/NightCougar01.jpg U would be dead one way or another sppunk 10-07-2012, 10:12 PM What's your favorite cookie recipe? null123 10-07-2012, 10:16 PM I wish I had one. My favorite kind of cookies is probably oatmeal raisin but I dont make cookies very often sppunk 10-07-2012, 10:18 PM Damn. I'm looking for a new cookie recipe myself. null123 10-07-2012, 10:28 PM This thread has reminded me that I could really afford to swear less TuralyonW3 10-07-2012, 10:32 PM Fuck that shit null123 10-07-2012, 10:34 PM I don't know, the combined hostility, cynicism and vulgar language is a bit much null123 10-07-2012, 10:38 PM I bet smitten kitchen has a decent oatmeal raisin cookie recipe reprise85 10-07-2012, 10:43 PM probably. you seem like a pretty understanding, live-and-let-live kind of person which I respect although it's possible it would get on my nerves. I'm like that in some ways but obviously not in other ways. yeah it annoys a lot of people, i only realized that recently mercurial 10-07-2012, 10:46 PM homesick texan has a good oatmeal cookie recipe. surely you can add raisins to this. http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/moms-oatmeal-cookies.html Eulogy 10-07-2012, 10:48 PM I bet smitten kitchen has a decent oatmeal raisin cookie recipe read this as smitten kitten and got real confused for a second pavementtune 10-08-2012, 12:08 AM are you saying I'm dumber than average? rude No, not at all. I just don't think there are more smart women than men out there. Eulogy 10-08-2012, 12:27 AM why would anyone even bother responding to such an asinine statement null123 10-08-2012, 01:25 AM No, not at all. I just don't think there are more smart women than men out there. I never said that and I don't believe there are Starla 10-08-2012, 02:22 AM I seem to attract men who want to control me and tell me what to do. Usually the kind of guys who have been burned in the past by someone, and have zero trust in women. So they tend to act crazy when I don't answer my phone, answer emails in a timely fashion, or I do something that triggers their fears and they get even crazier. I also attract men who just want a friends with benefits type of relationship. for them, they never want it to go further than that. They will say "Let's see where it goes". I have never been in a friends with benefits relationship and never will. It's not me at all, but they don't get that and they keep pressing for it until they have pushed me out of their life. pavementtune 10-08-2012, 02:24 AM Oh, so you think you're smarter than most women and men, therefore you haven't met someone who would qualify to be your boyfriend. I see. The air up there must be really thin. null123 10-08-2012, 02:28 AM You're funny TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 02:30 AM well if you hold sincere beliefs you think would benefit society, and you're in the minority on those beliefs, it's not really a big stretch to think you're smarter than most people. which I'm assuming charmbag is talking about, as opposed to rocket science or whatever null123 10-08-2012, 02:50 AM the reason most people don't come to the same conclusions as radical feminists is not because they're dumb. I think there are certain personality types and life circumstances that tend to lead people to form these political views. but there are certain forms of intelligence or ways of thinking which I value more. it really is more about what does a person like to think about and how good are they at thinking about it. (the two tend to go hand-in-hand) TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 02:52 AM yeah I wasn't singling out radfem per se TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 02:53 AM Like I think I'm "smarter" than anyone who doesn't support gay marriage etc. null123 10-08-2012, 03:16 AM well I don't think everyone who doesn't share my values or ideology is stupider than me. TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 03:18 AM well what's your "let's be real" most guys aren't as smart as me based on then, booksmarts? not asking combatively just curiously null123 10-08-2012, 03:31 AM not sure how to put it. I mean someone has to be at least able to engage easily with my opinions, even if they don't agree TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 03:35 AM ah ok, kinda like intellectual lubrication, the "playing field" more so than the content null123 10-08-2012, 03:38 AM yeah more like that. ok we've got my whole OK Cupid profile filled in thanks for your help guys TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 03:38 AM charmbag are you familiar with the "women's spirituality movement" and also STARHAWK (lol for real?) http://www.amazon.com/The-Fifth-Sacred-Thing-Starhawk/dp/0553373803/ref=pd_sim_b_9 just randomly found this on amazon while looking at ursela k. leguin stuff null123 10-08-2012, 03:39 AM lol not specifically. i'm not about that white pagan earth goddess stuff null123 10-08-2012, 03:43 AM I seem to attract men who want to control me and tell me what to do. Usually the kind of guys who have been burned in the past by someone, and have zero trust in women. So they tend to act crazy when I don't answer my phone, answer emails in a timely fashion, or I do something that triggers their fears and they get even crazier. I also attract men who just want a friends with benefits type of relationship. for them, they never want it to go further than that. They will say "Let's see where it goes". I have never been in a friends with benefits relationship and never will. It's not me at all, but they don't get that and they keep pressing for it until they have pushed me out of their life. why do you believe you specifically attract these kinds of men? cocksure 10-08-2012, 05:13 AM not sure how to put it. I mean someone has to be at least able to engage easily with my opinions, even if they don't agree what if someone is extremely intelligent but comes from a highly idelogical school of thought that is opposed to feminism and they cannot shake those core beliefs? do you really think anyone could communicate with anyone, as long as both parties are intelligent enough? i have my doubts about that. null123 10-08-2012, 05:14 AM nope I don't think that at all TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 05:16 AM what if someone is extremely intelligent but comes from a highly idelogical school of thought that is opposed to feminism and they cannot shake those core beliefs? do you really think anyone could communicate with anyone, as long as both parties are intelligent enough? i have my doubts about that. http://ohkrapp.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bertrand-russell-smokes-pipe.jpg cocksure 10-08-2012, 05:17 AM so do you think it's possible to find someone who rejects all kinds of feminism and cannot defend that position, who you would still call intelligent? cocksure 10-08-2012, 05:19 AM bertrand russell comes from a highly idelogical school of thought? what do you mean, logicism? and he was opposed to feminism? i didn't know that. null123 10-08-2012, 05:19 AM theoretically null123 10-08-2012, 05:20 AM just because someone has different values or even actively hates women doesn't mean they are stupid cocksure 10-08-2012, 05:23 AM yeah i agree, didn't think you would though. it comes down to what one means by intelligent <> stupid TuralyonW3 10-08-2012, 05:26 AM bertrand russell comes from a highly idelogical school of thought? what do you mean, logicism? and he was opposed to feminism? i didn't know that. I wasn't posting it because it was Russell (who was relatively femenist) I was posting it mockingly because it was a professorial fellow smoking a pipe which is what your post sounded like ;) null123 10-08-2012, 05:31 AM yeah i agree, didn't think you would though. it comes down to what one means by intelligent <> stupid yeah, and I'm not really interested in being the arbiter of that distinction. I was just looking for a word to describe the ability to woo me with insight and relate over ideas n whatever. but you're right, there is more than one factor that goes into two people being able to have intellectual reciprocity. cocksure 10-08-2012, 05:35 AM so do you believe that radical feminism is a philosophical position that can be arrived at through means of logic and observation? or do you think it takes a leap of faith, and individual circumstances are more important than convincing arguments? if you think the latter is true (and some things you said hinted at that), how do you think you can spread radical feminism? do you even want to do that? Future Boy 10-08-2012, 10:35 AM cubs or sox you must pick one keep in mind cubs fans suck Tchocky 10-08-2012, 12:48 PM Tastes great or less filling? Esty 10-08-2012, 07:17 PM Who do you believe will end up with a more horrible life, trots or eulogy? null123 10-08-2012, 09:42 PM so do you believe that radical feminism is a philosophical position that can be arrived at through means of logic and observation? or do you think it takes a leap of faith, and individual circumstances are more important than convincing arguments? if you think the latter is true (and some things you said hinted at that), how do you think you can spread radical feminism? do you even want to do that? I don't think arriving at radical feminist philosophy is any more individual than Marxism or anything else. Logic and observation are necessary to understanding it. Maybe I'm not understanding your question? I don't know what about radical feminism requires a leap of faith, at least compared to any other form of feminism or social theory. I do want to spread radical feminism. Its a question of presenting these alternative ideas and making them accessible, and then supporting women for acting in ways that are not supportive of patriarchy because it's rough. The biggest barrier to accepting radical feminist ideas is that its frankly depressing and potentially makes it difficult to maintain certain relationships, habits etc. I can see this push and pull very clearly in my own life. null123 10-08-2012, 09:43 PM cubs or sox you must pick one keep in mind cubs fans suck Okay sox. Fuck you billy null123 10-08-2012, 09:47 PM Who do you believe will end up with a more horrible life, trots or eulogy? Well right now eulogy is clearly a lot happier than Trotsky. There isn't necessarily reason to expect that to change. I think Trotsky could hit his stride in the next couple of years. Some people are just lucky to have these happier temperaments. Eulogy seems pretty high strung though so who knows how that will work out for him Trotskilicious 10-08-2012, 10:39 PM why would you respond to esty Eulogy 10-08-2012, 10:42 PM and if you're going to respond to him, at least avoid quoting him. yeesh. Trotskilicious 10-08-2012, 10:44 PM lets sacrifice him to our god, we used to do it all the time in the 20s null123 10-08-2012, 11:27 PM I quoted and responded to both of you null123 10-08-2012, 11:28 PM this thread has been surprisingly restrained Trotskilicious 10-08-2012, 11:28 PM that's not very nice, i am a swell fellow cocksure 10-09-2012, 05:55 AM Maybe I'm not understanding your question? if we agree that one does not choose radical feminism due to intelligence alone, what is it that makes one choose it? Starla 10-09-2012, 07:18 PM why do you believe you specifically attract these kinds of men? Maybe most men are this way and I'm finally waking up to reality? I know women have issues too, but I'm not living as someone's fuck buddy just because they can't commit to one person. At this point in life, it's either going to be all the way or nothing at all. I'm fine with nothing at all too. |