View Full Version : Pug (dennis flemion remix) listen


lucid_interval
10-03-2012, 05:17 PM
Ash from SPUK uploaded this on facebook. Anyone know anything about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwELkpIiKcg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwELkpIiKcg)

T&T
10-03-2012, 05:28 PM
that's cool. this is the kind of stuff i wanna see on the re-issues.

James
10-03-2012, 05:40 PM
Where did this come from?

iPumpkin
10-03-2012, 05:55 PM
Has a TEITBITE feel.

Reyngel
10-03-2012, 06:54 PM
Where the fuck did this come from?

And Billy, please put a lot of this kind of stuff on the Adore reissue. It could easily be the best of the reissues.

This is fucking GREAT

great poster
10-03-2012, 08:08 PM
whoa, this came completely out of nowhere. sounds nice...

AveryLoren
10-03-2012, 09:23 PM
Unbelievably good!

PkPhuoko
10-03-2012, 09:55 PM
Kind of a garbage remix.

Note to rock musicians: stop using presets and default effect patterns. It makes you look like a bedroom producer

This uses 2 presets from Absynth and 3 automated filter patterns from Halion. To translate to the guitar world, this would be like buying one of those digital guitar pedals and using four or five presets on one of those


At the very least at least it was an actual remix unlike a lot of SP remixes which don't even remotely use the stems of the original


One thing of note, the presets were from an older version of Absynth so this may actually be an older remix and not recent

dustrock
10-03-2012, 11:14 PM
Pretty cool

Reyngel
10-04-2012, 12:45 AM
Kind of a garbage remix.

Note to rock musicians: stop using presets and default effect patterns. It makes you look like a bedroom producer

This uses 2 presets from Absynth and 3 automated filter patterns from Halion. To translate to the guitar world, this would be like buying one of those digital guitar pedals and using four or five presets on one of those


At the very least at least it was an actual remix unlike a lot of SP remixes which don't even remotely use the stems of the original


One thing of note, the presets were from an older version of Absynth so this may actually be an older remix and not recent


I think you missed the point of the remix... it sounds like it was an early, working mix to play with some ideas before the final layout and arrangement of the song came to fruition. You can tell because the vocals aren't the vocals from the final album version, and there are even some extra words that didn't make the final cut.

I think it's awesome to hear the brainstorming in action.

D.
10-04-2012, 12:47 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?o031vdmva1wd0mp

LalaPumpkinhead
10-04-2012, 02:19 AM
not bad :)

redbreegull
10-04-2012, 11:24 PM
sounds awesome, does anyone know where this materialized from?

stumpycat
10-04-2012, 11:49 PM
Sounds like really generic Hollywood production music - pretty much like all the dance and electronic influenced shit they were passing off as contemporary MTV "alt rock" back in 1998. Like fucking 6 Underground by Sneaker Pimps. Yawwwn. I think the "presets" comment pretty much hit it on the spot.

Monet LSD
10-05-2012, 12:15 AM
Sounds like really generic Hollywood production music - pretty much like all the dance and electronic influenced shit they were passing off as contemporary MTV "alt rock" back in 1998. Like fucking 6 Underground by Sneaker Pimps. Yawwwn. I think the "presets" comment pretty much hit it on the spot.

I see what you're saying with the slick, generic, preset sound of the remix...but the 6 Underground comparison is pretty off base...not at all the same as sleek Hollywood production. It's much grittier...it's based on the sample here from a 1964 John Barry song (6 Underground sample appears around 1:03) -

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lOfW9xw6yJ0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


...and also samples the intro drumbeat of this 1973 Little Feat song -


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/YqE_Has88fA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Also have read, iirc, that the Sneaker Pimps album was very low budget & DIY.

Grox
10-05-2012, 12:22 AM
wasn't this on a single?

IAMTHEDOORWAY
10-05-2012, 12:39 AM
wasn't this on a single?
um no

are you on crack?

EyesOfAJackal
10-05-2012, 01:27 AM
Wow... I absolutely love this vocal take :blush:

The prominent cellos work well too

The kinda thing that tempts me to do the Adore revisionism thing

Kahlo
10-05-2012, 04:10 AM
This is fantastic. Not bothered with the other re-issues, but can't wait for Adore and Machina outtakes...

RenewRevive
10-05-2012, 07:25 PM
where the hell did this come from anyways? not at all bad.

thanks for the dl D ;)

IWishIWasBlank
10-05-2012, 07:36 PM
Yeah this ain't bad. I definitely prefer the original, but, as someone else noted above, you kind of see a bit of the creative process going on before the final cut is made or chosen.

killtrocity
10-05-2012, 08:30 PM
God please let there be more unreleased material like this

JUnderscore
10-05-2012, 10:39 PM
This could have been released through SPRC and rekindled our hopes for the program.

Venom
10-05-2012, 11:59 PM
If this is on the Adore re-issue, consider it bought.

Cool As Ice Cream
10-06-2012, 05:47 AM
coolio.
thanks.

lucid_interval
10-06-2012, 11:09 AM
Ash posted a bit more info on facebook:

I received this from a mutual friend of Dennis, Jimmy and myself. Dennis was the one who handled the business side of things, unfortunately his tragic death has meant that things have come to a stand still. The Frogs were going through a time of releasing all of their original 'mail order only' albums digitally, two new albums had only just been released, more was on the cards. I was made aware that a couple of people were doing all they can to go through all the material they can find to make a digital archive. I can't say too much right now, but I will say i've received Frogs material over the last couple of years that was never going to be made available publicly, plus material that hadn't been made public yet. That side of the business is still to be determined, plans are afoot though, i'll be sending some material over myself soon to be added. My friend sent me a message saying he discovered a CD with this remix on the tracklist and asked if I knew anything about it, obviously I never even knew it existed. Within 15 minutes I was listening to a FLAC rip which was sent to me.

SPumpkinsUK
10-06-2012, 11:15 AM
I received this from a mutual friend of Dennis, Jimmy and myself. Dennis was the one who handled the business side of things, unfortunately his tragic death has meant that things have come to a stand still. The Frogs were going through a time of releasing all of their original 'mail order only' albums digitally, two new albums had only just been released, more was on the cards. I was made aware that a couple of people were doing all they could to go through all the material they can find to make a digital archive. I can't say too much right now, but I will say i've received Frogs material over the last couple of years that was never going to be made available publicly, plus material that hadn't been made public yet. That side of the business is still to be determined, plans are afoot though, i'll be sending some material over myself soon to be added. My friend knows I'm a big Smashing Pumpkins fan, so he sent me a message when he found it. He said that he discovered a CD with this remix on the tracklist and asked if I knew anything about it, obviously I never even knew it existed. Within 15 minutes I was listening to a FLAC rip which he sent to me.

It's as simple as that really, no dodgy deals, no ebay find, no rooting around the Sadlands dumpsters. Just an awesome find on a CD by someone archiving and cataloguing all the unreleased Frogs material.

reprise85
10-06-2012, 11:18 AM
ash from the o-board? he runs the frog's site right? i used to talk to him a lot

SPumpkinsUK
10-06-2012, 11:20 AM
ash from the o-board? he runs the frog's site right? i used to talk to him a lot

That's me, long time no see

SPumpkinsUK
10-06-2012, 11:27 AM
Ash posted a bit more info on facebook:

You beat me too it, I was hoping to clear up some of my terrible grammar to make it slightly less terrible :P

whywontyoulistn
10-06-2012, 11:29 AM
a FLAC rip

*puppy dog eyes*

SPumpkinsUK
10-06-2012, 11:41 AM
*puppy dog eyes*

I only accept cash...

I tried to make this aware to the band\Billy officially in case they either had plans for the next re-issue\didn't have it in their archives and wanted a copy but got no answer.

I'm heading out for a bit right now, i'll most likely upload it when I get home or a little later tonight. The instructions I was given were "...I wasn't told the material couldn't be shared so do as you will..."

I'll be back in 2-3 hours.

SPumpkinsUK
10-06-2012, 11:48 AM
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These were the alternate lyrics for Pug

SPumpkinsUK
10-06-2012, 01:18 PM
FLAC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xq0vgv

For the non audiophiles, a vbr converted mp3: http://www.sendspace.com/file/j1afx4

Cool As Ice Cream
10-06-2012, 01:22 PM
awesome. thank you!

lucid_interval
10-06-2012, 01:23 PM
Thanks!

TheAeroplane
10-06-2012, 01:32 PM
what a great version, this confirms my idea that had Adore been properly mixed, the album would have rocked and sold well... what a waste of great lyrics and tunes. Adore pisses me off everytime because of what it could have been.

IWishIWasBlank
10-06-2012, 02:00 PM
Thanks Ash.

slunken
10-06-2012, 02:04 PM
sooo glad i finally clicked on this thread. wonderful stuff.

this talk of presets as pejorative is rubbish.

Rider
10-06-2012, 02:55 PM
What a nice subtle mix of the song. Best part is none of the intentional clipping that was in the original.

Venom
10-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Awesome, thanks for the FLAC!

Gossamer
10-06-2012, 03:54 PM
This is by far the best smashing pumpkins related thing I have heard in like 10 years.

qlitchford
10-06-2012, 05:11 PM
This is by far the best smashing pumpkins related thing I have heard in like 10 years.

So good it nearly hurts. Hard to believe it's the same man alive today.

Gossamer
10-06-2012, 05:27 PM
seriously what the fuck. I hope there is more of this to come...

Venom
10-06-2012, 05:29 PM
So, is Billy even aware of this or not? Chances are if he doesn't, it won't be on the Adore reissue.

Rider
10-06-2012, 06:02 PM
I'm waiting for the this to hit the fan over this when he finds out. Grab that FLAC while you can.

Reyngel
10-06-2012, 07:15 PM
So, is Billy even aware of this or not? Chances are if he doesn't, it won't be on the Adore reissue.

Not that this means anything, but I tried Tweeting him about it and he didn't say shit. And judging by how he hasn't responded to the main guy asking him about it, I almost wonder if he feels discouraged and/or annoyed that people other than him have more to offer from unreleased Adore material than even he's been able to find.

whywontyoulistn
10-06-2012, 07:15 PM
FLAC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xq0vgv

Fantastic. Thanks!

amoergosum
10-06-2012, 07:21 PM
So Billy is replying to lots of tweets like

Billy Corgan ‏@Billy
"@Giulz: @billy my mom has become a fan, thanks to me. She has Smashing Pumpkins lyrics up in her hair salon 2 inspire her clients LOVE THAT

but he's ignoring interesting stuff like the question about this remix?
Hmmmm.....

Reyngel
10-06-2012, 07:31 PM
So Billy is replying to lots of tweets like

Billy Corgan ‏@Billy
"@Giulz: @billy my mom has become a fan, thanks to me. She has Smashing Pumpkins lyrics up in her hair salon 2 inspire her clients LOVE THAT

but he's ignoring interesting stuff like the question about this remix?
Hmmmm.....

Ha, exactly. I Tweeted him the day this Pug mix was discovered and asked simply about what it was.

reprise85
10-06-2012, 10:44 PM
yeah his caps lock key is on. i thought he was more savvy than that :think:

MonteLDS
10-06-2012, 11:43 PM
So, is Billy even aware of this or not? Chances are if he doesn't, it won't be on the Adore reissue.

he is aware of it

lucid_interval
10-07-2012, 02:04 AM
he is aware of it

Cool, good to know

applepwnz
10-07-2012, 02:16 AM
Great mix! The interesting thing is that my least favourite part of the song as it sounded on Adore is my most favorite part of the song here.

killtrocity
12-08-2012, 05:03 AM
So what the hell is this? Can we expect more for the Adore reissue? Where did it come from?

Catherine Wheel
12-08-2012, 05:19 AM
Great remix. I could actually put this on a trip hop mix cd.

bs1933
12-08-2012, 08:11 AM
Thanks!

GLOWer
12-08-2012, 02:45 PM
Jesus Christ, have those spam posts ever fooled anyone in the history of history?

Kahlo
12-08-2012, 02:46 PM
once, but it was a really good one. They dream of the day when they can repeat that victory.

Rider
12-08-2012, 02:57 PM
It's not about fooling anyone it's about putting up mountains of links to increase google ranking.

Eulogy
12-08-2012, 03:07 PM
what a great version, this confirms my idea that had Adore been properly mixed, the album would have rocked and sold well... what a waste of great lyrics and tunes. Adore pisses me off everytime because of what it could have been.

this is good but the album version is clearly better.

marce
12-08-2012, 05:29 PM
FLAC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xq0vgv

For the non audiophiles, a vbr converted mp3: http://www.sendspace.com/file/j1afx4

wow, thanks! this really is a pretty cool version :)

Trotskilicious
12-08-2012, 05:31 PM
man is pkphuko's post in this thread trying as hard as possible to be cool or what

autumn_amnesiac
12-08-2012, 05:38 PM
Has a TEITBITE feel.

teat-bite
umm billy biting titties.

Catherine Wheel
12-09-2012, 02:28 PM
The song is being shared on Soulseek if you want an mp3 version of it.

Fattening Ass
12-10-2012, 01:54 AM
this mix is awesome

redbull
12-10-2012, 02:21 AM
del

redbull
12-10-2012, 02:21 AM
what a great version, this confirms my idea that had Adore been properly mixed, the album would have rocked and sold well... what a waste of great lyrics and tunes. Adore pisses me off everytime because of what it could have been.

you are an idiot

Trotskilicious
12-10-2012, 03:04 AM
but redbull

it could have totally rocked bro

Cool As Ice Cream
12-10-2012, 03:08 AM
this confirms my idea.

redbull
12-10-2012, 03:09 AM
but redbull

it could have totally rocked bro

well thats why we have the live shows

Trotskilicious
12-10-2012, 03:19 AM
but bro what if adore rocked as hard as zeitgeist bro

Cool As Ice Cream
12-10-2012, 03:24 AM
this confirms my idea.

pavementtune
08-15-2015, 11:38 AM
FLAC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xq0vgv



so I'm an idiot and deleted a bunch of the wrong files - could anyone who still has this one be kind enough and up it again?

pretty please and thanks

qlitchford
08-15-2015, 03:41 PM
so I'm an idiot and deleted a bunch of the wrong files - could anyone who still has this one be kind enough and up it again?

pretty please and thanks

I am immensely sorry, but linking Smashing Pumpkins material here is illegal, immoral, and utterly and completely banned.

pavementtune
08-15-2015, 04:04 PM
nicely worded, qlitchford, Bollster approves


http://i.imgur.com/DQQ2nTg.jpg





really though, I thought this one was okay, given where it came from.
anyway, I found it, thanks!

I received this from a mutual friend of Dennis, Jimmy and myself.
It's as simple as that really, no dodgy deals, no ebay find, no rooting around the Sadlands dumpsters. Just an awesome find on a CD by someone archiving and cataloguing all the unreleased Frogs material.

qlitchford
08-15-2015, 06:44 PM
Wrong.

"Note to all posting here on this forum, posting links to any and all unreleased material by the Smashing Pumpkins is prohibited here.

No one is to post links on this forum for any of the unreleased album material.

Anyone continuing to do so will be banned and the posts/threads deleted and your information may be turned over to relevant parties.

Thank you,

- Andrew"

Show pave some respect

HEY YOU!

For your information, I sent pavement a very tersely worded private message which informed him of how deviant it would be for him to click a link, provide a password, and unzip the said song.

Tsk-tsk!

:netphoria

slunken
08-16-2015, 02:03 AM
:jimmy:

Reyngel
08-16-2015, 02:39 PM
Did Bill ever comment on how this version got leaked? It has some similar vocal takes that can be found in the Matt Walker Reimagined version from the boxset... I wonder if it was originally supposed to be included before Billy got word that everyone already had it.

pavementtune
08-16-2015, 04:05 PM
it wasn't leaked, the one who shared it here got it from The Frogs archive in 2012 - all in this thread, if you'd bother to read.

plus, the lady who owns this CD got it as early as 1999 - from Corgan.


http://i.imgur.com/pigJq6I.jpg

Shallowed
08-16-2015, 04:24 PM
Cooooool

qlitchford
08-16-2015, 04:43 PM
You mean her

A woman? On the internet?

vajohna
08-16-2015, 05:21 PM
Of course Billy uses Comic Sans.

Mals Marola
08-16-2015, 08:23 PM
didn't really have the stigma in the 90s as it does now though did it

& that looks like an enjoyable collection up there, was it just all of the machina stuff that was acoustic or does only the lady with the cd actually know that

pavementtune
08-16-2015, 08:54 PM
was it just all of the machina stuff that was acoustic or does only the lady with the cd actually know that
don't know that lady, but apparently the latter. she hasn't heard the actual Machina II album yet and couldn't say if the tracks are any different to what we all know.

Mals Marola
08-17-2015, 07:23 AM
ah, well at least those kinda discs made their way to tr00 fans

http://www.netanimations.net/Moving-animated-picture-of-dancing-fools.gif

topleybird
08-17-2015, 09:51 AM
didn't really have the stigma in the 90s as it does now though did it

By '99 it definitely already had the stigma, and it was only created in '94

bancomicsans.com launched in '99 and I personally am stunned that confirmed AOL user Billy Corgan was not aware enough of the movement to avoid using it in his own material

I like to tell fellow font snobs Comic Sans was based on the lettering in Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns and watch the sort of :Skeptical:think::Skeptical reaction as they try to recalibrate how or if this should affect their smoldering hatred (it shouldn't)

FoolofaTook
08-17-2015, 09:55 AM
what is this bsbt version 1? is it acoustic?

Cool As Ice Cream
08-17-2015, 10:21 AM
isn't that the version that is also on machina II?

Cool As Ice Cream
08-17-2015, 10:24 AM
actually, scratch that.
the version on the faeomm boot is listed as "version 1". so i guess it's probably that version. http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/boot.html?boot_id=165

Cool As Ice Cream
08-18-2015, 04:43 AM
there are two acoustic versions of blue skies bring tears on the machina acoustic demos: http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/boot.html?boot_id=167

Mals Marola
08-19-2015, 01:16 AM
actually, scratch that.
the version on the faeomm boot is listed as "version 1". so i guess it's probably that version. http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/boot.html?boot_id=165

on here it's called "The Arising! Version" though

i feel like this bootleg would have most likely been mostly machina acoustic & adore fully-fleshed b-sides, considering the time & song choices

that's how imma be listenin to it at least

dreams of glass
08-27-2015, 01:47 AM
Holy crap, this is awesome

crabshack
02-19-2016, 09:30 PM
Can somebody PM this file to me pretty please? It seems to have been erased from Youtube.

teh b0lly!!1
02-19-2016, 11:18 PM
The Tale Of Dusty and Pistol Pete and The Coward Robert Ford (Hot Dogs in the Sink Remix by Puff Daddy Revisited)

jm9843
02-20-2016, 01:13 AM
Repost please.

crabshack
02-20-2016, 08:24 PM
I'll do it on Sunday.

Reggaeluv2000
02-24-2016, 03:14 PM
Ahem, Sunday has long passed.

Run To Me
02-24-2016, 03:45 PM
Ahem, Sunday has long passed.

He meant next Sunday

jm9843
02-24-2016, 08:10 PM
http://saturnine.gq/


AUDIO>1998> Pug (Dennis Flemion remix).mp3

Site is fucked. Also, FLAC is preferred.

Reggaeluv2000
02-24-2016, 09:54 PM
Someone just send it to me keep kthx

enthusaroo
02-25-2016, 03:38 AM
http://saturnine.gq/


AUDIO>1998> Pug (Dennis Flemion remix).mp3

Site asks for a username and password now when clicking on Audio.

James
03-04-2016, 01:18 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mEyEyP-BfeM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

qwerty sp
03-04-2016, 05:15 PM
Never liked pug, still dont