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jeff O)))
09-11-2012, 08:14 PM
this is gonna be awesome

http://www.nme.com/news/neil-young/66050

jeff O)))
09-11-2012, 08:14 PM
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redbreegull
09-11-2012, 08:23 PM
It's been a long time since Neil Young has really hit one out of the park. Le Noise was pretty good but it got stale kind of quickly for me. I have high hopes though

jeff O)))
09-11-2012, 08:24 PM
yeah Americana was like a pleasant 2-listen deal and that was about it

redbreegull
09-11-2012, 08:35 PM
the last one that really got me was prairie wind, though I liked some songs on living with war also.

D.
09-11-2012, 09:39 PM
Is he ever going to make another album that does not have a gimmick attached?

redbull
09-11-2012, 09:47 PM
chrome dreams II was pertty good

samuel redman
09-12-2012, 02:34 AM
all of his albums are incredible

samuel redman
09-21-2012, 11:07 AM
listen to 3 minutes of studio Walk Like A Giant: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=161004028&m=161420828

TuralyonW3
09-27-2012, 02:26 AM
yeah this could be the best thing he's done in a long time:

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samuel redman
09-28-2012, 10:31 AM
is that a different mix than the 16 minute version?

Raskolnikov
10-09-2012, 02:54 PM
Well, he's 2/2 on this album so far - Ramada Inn kills it.

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samuel redman
10-09-2012, 05:00 PM
check them out live if you can guys, the band is "on" like nothing i've heard from them in years

i suppose they're hinting that this Alchemy tour will be their last, but you never know

sppunk
10-09-2012, 06:51 PM
At Farm Aid they were very strong, so I expect this album to be pretty legit.

Americana IMO is pure shit though. Ugh.

samuel redman
10-09-2012, 06:52 PM
oh wow, i love it. feels like it picks up right where Ragged Glory left off

TuralyonW3
10-09-2012, 07:01 PM
Yyeesss MUST DEEEEEE LLLLLLL!!!

redbreegull
10-09-2012, 07:06 PM
sounds great.

TuralyonW3
10-09-2012, 09:16 PM
can't believe the vinyl is so fucking expensive. neil vinyl is often outrageously priced unfortunately

TuralyonW3
10-09-2012, 09:17 PM
Haven't been able to give enough attention to walk like a giant, but ramada inn is defintely some of their best stuff since broken arrow (1996)

TuralyonW3
10-09-2012, 09:21 PM
when one of your favorite musicians/bands does something awesome, it's so awesome (hint hint corgan)

samuel redman
10-09-2012, 11:50 PM
not counting Greendale since Frank didn't play in studio?

TuralyonW3
10-09-2012, 11:55 PM
dude they played enough fuckin' greendale to last for all time

samuel redman
10-10-2012, 12:04 AM
i just thought you were saying Broken Arrow since it was the last time all 4 did new material, my mistake

TuralyonW3
10-10-2012, 12:53 AM
Greendale was solid but I'm saying this is the best sounding crazy horse related material since broken arrow

Raskolnikov
10-10-2012, 11:50 AM
can't believe the vinyl is so fucking expensive. neil vinyl is often outrageously priced unfortunately

Yeah, it sure is - but that's because dude gets that shit pressed in Sendai, Japan on the finest vinyl out there.

(BECAUSE SOUND MATTERS)

redbreegull
10-13-2012, 08:04 PM
holy shit Ramada Inn is this album out yet

samuel redman
10-13-2012, 11:11 PM
nice that they pulled out DBTR again after a few years off

what a great version of it too

loving each Walk Like A Giant rendition they do live, and i think the band knows Ramada Inn is a classic

redbreegull
10-14-2012, 05:09 PM
Ramada Inn could swallow the whole world

I just cannot stop listening

redbreegull
10-20-2012, 08:37 PM
hey Turalyon you should rank every Neil Young album, I'm really feeling him lately. I know most of the major ones I think but there are a ton I haven't heard.

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 08:56 PM
I saw the "Journey's" film today, pretty good record of the Le Noise Tour

I will try to rank the albums soon.

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:08 PM
on the beach
tonight's the night
everybody knows this is nowhere
reactor (typical contrarian pick)
time fades away (see previous comment)
zuma
after the gold rush
weld
comes a time

my god this is exhausting

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 09:12 PM
good bootleg of current tour

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7741003/Neil_Young__amp_amp__Crazy_Horse_-_2012-10-11_-_United_Center_Chicag

redbreegull
10-20-2012, 09:16 PM
on the beach
tonight's the night
everybody knows this is nowhere
reactor (typical contrarian pick)
time fades away (see previous comment)
zuma
after the gold rush
weld
comes a time

my god this is exhausting

I know all of those except reactor and time fades away

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 09:28 PM
fuck no way I can rank his albums

here are "must listen" albums in chrono order
(and just because it's not on this list doesn't mean it's not good, just not "must listen" status)

must listen tier 1
everybody knows this is nowhere
after the gold rush
harvest
on the beach
tonight's the night
time fades away
zuma
american stars and bars
comes a time
rust never sleeps
live rust
hawks and doves
reactor
freedom
ragged glory
weld
sleeps with angels
mirror ball
broken arrow
year of the horse
silver & gold
greendale
prarie wind
living with war
live at fillmore east
chrome dreams II
le noise
psychedelic pill

must listen tier 2
neil young (s/t)
arc
harvest moon
lucky 13 (mostly just for "depression blues")
unplugged
dead man soundtrack
road rock vol. 1
are you passionate
live at massey hall 1971
Sugar Mountain - Live At Canterbury House 1968
fork in the road
dreamin' man live 1992
archives vol. 1
a treasure
americana

curiosities with a few good tracks each
long may you run (title song is great)
decade (a few nice unreleased songs that are only on here I believe)
trans (some neat stuff but don't believe the hipster hype)
everybody's rockin (worth a spin..."wonderin" is the best song...no doubt cuz it was old)
old ways (so disappointing...neil doing country should be good)
landing on water (good stuff, painful stuff)
life (ditto...when you're lonely heart breaks and prisoners of rock and roll are great)

unfortunately I don't think I've ever been able to make it through "this note's for you"

and there are plenty other good soundtrack songs (philadelphia) and unreleased live tracks floating around

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:30 PM
reactor is like viewed as the end of his "classic" era but i just gfound it completely awesome since first listen
its his loosest "punkiest" album and like t-bone is just the most awesome jam
like it gets bad notice cause he only sings one line over and over but it rocks harder than like anything anyones donea

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:31 PM
everybody's rockin is the only album from the maligned reactor to life era that i really all out dislike

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 09:42 PM
here's a gun-to-my-head top 10 list in chronological order:
everybody knows this is nowhere
after the gold rush
on the beach
tonight's the night
live rust
ragged glory
weld
mirror ball
broken arrow
year of the horse

most painful 5 I had to eliminate (i.e. if it were top 15)
zuma
time fades away
sleeps with angels
silver & gold
live at fillmore east



most glaring omission from these selections is probably "Harvest" and it was very close to replacing "fillmore" "sleeps" or "silver"...it's just that it has 7 classics, pulled down by 1 ok song and 2 stinkers. it's definitely a hardcore "must listen"

also I'm letting "live rust" rep "rust never sleeps" which would otherwise probably be top 15...props to "thrasher" and "ride my llama"

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 09:43 PM
reactor is like viewed as the end of his "classic" era but i just gfound it completely awesome since first listen
its his loosest "punkiest" album and like t-bone is just the most awesome jam
like it gets bad notice cause he only sings one line over and over but it rocks harder than like anything anyones donea


if you don't like this album you just don't get neil

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:47 PM
is there really hipster hype about trans? i think it's absolutely good but i am not aware of any movement to rep it
i don't know what the hype would be about since it isn't even weird enough for its reputation. it's just not at all bad overall

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 09:50 PM
is there really hipster hype about trans? i think it's absolutely good but i am not aware of any movement to rep it
i don't know what the hype would be about since it isn't even weird enough for its reputation. it's just not at all bad overall

I've definitely been exposed to some hipster hype

yeah it's not a bad album...the quality of the songs really aren't tied to them being electronic-influenced or whatever

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:53 PM
i went to a zuma fitness class and was really confused when this brazillian booty music started playing

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:54 PM
in all my internet travels i just have never encountered any love for that album outside of a couple individuals here and there who don't seem to get backing

MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 09:54 PM
playing dead man right now

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:11 PM
playing dead man right now

there are a couple repeated musical motif's between dead man and mirrorball

"organ solo" on dead man is "fallen angel" and "i'm the ocean"

redbreegull
10-20-2012, 10:13 PM
just had Zuma on in the car, it kicks ass for sure.

I've never heard any Trans hype. I've heard people describe it as his worst album.

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:19 PM
it's quite better a few of his others

redbreegull
10-20-2012, 10:19 PM
I also listened to Le Noise today for the first time in over a year. There are some real classics on here, but some of the songs seem to have already aged badly to me. Mostly the heaviest ones... they often seem to have good choruses, or good verse parts, but are weighed down by awkward, off-kilter feeling riffs that lose the momentum of the song without percussion. A good example is Angry World, which is a fairly dark, powerful brooder, until it gets to the part where he's like, "yeeeaaahh it's an angry wooorld yeeaah" with this kind of dumb sounding guitar line following the melody.

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:24 PM
i would revisit le noise for when you're more acquainted with the rest of his catalog

le noise's solo electric stuff makes more sense as a "ghost" of some older crazy horse stuff, in a way...

peaceful valley is pretty lovely

redbreegull
10-20-2012, 10:32 PM
yeah, I already know a lot of the crucial stuff. everybody knows, gold rush, harvest, on the beach, zuma, comes a time, rust never sleeps, tonight's the night, harvest moon, sleeps with angels, prairie wind, living with war and a few others too that I can't remember now as well as the decade collection, some buffalo springfield stuff, and deja vu.

I loved Le Noise when it came out, I listened to it high when I was going to sleep for like 2 months straight my senior year. Some of it falls a little flat now for me. Same with Living with War. I played it to death in high school but now half the songs seem like clunkers. Weirdly, my first real exposure to full neil young albums was prairie wind and living with war and I have grown to understand more of his older stuff as I aged.

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:35 PM
based on the absences from your list above, i'd reccommend spending some time with:
broken arrow
year of the horse
weld
ragged glory
time fades away
mirror ball
silver & gold


also check out this monster from the otherwise just-ok are you passionate:

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MusicMan4
10-20-2012, 10:41 PM
i need to finally listen to the crazy horse album

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:44 PM
i need to finally listen to the crazy horse album

both of them! (that is the 1971 s/t as well as Crazy Moon from 1978) definitely some awesome stuff

i honestly haven't listened to "loose" "at crooked lake" or "left for dead"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6b/CrazyHorseCD.jpg/220px-CrazyHorseCD.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ybQxTZnFAV0/Te27K2YgaiI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/Rd0RqQU4UqQ/s1600/Crazy+Horse.jpg

TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:48 PM
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TuralyonW3
10-20-2012, 10:54 PM
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redbreegull
10-21-2012, 01:09 AM
relevant in terms of rocking your god damn face off

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samuel redman
10-21-2012, 11:17 AM
Crazy Moon is an incredible album, i was blown away by it when i first got it, but then again for some reason i'm partial to Poncho's voice. Check out the show from 1975 when they played a few songs from that album, and it also has the early version of White Line for anyone interested in that. the recording is terrible but it's a cool sense of the show.

though then again, back to Crazy Horse albums, i think one of, if not the best Crazy Horse songs is Lady Soul from at Crooked Lake.

samuel redman
10-21-2012, 11:20 AM
yeah, I already know a lot of the crucial stuff. everybody knows, gold rush, harvest, on the beach, zuma, comes a time, rust never sleeps, tonight's the night, harvest moon, sleeps with angels, prairie wind, living with war and a few others too that I can't remember now as well as the decade collection, some buffalo springfield stuff, and deja vu.

I loved Le Noise when it came out, I listened to it high when I was going to sleep for like 2 months straight my senior year. Some of it falls a little flat now for me. Same with Living with War. I played it to death in high school but now half the songs seem like clunkers. Weirdly, my first real exposure to full neil young albums was prairie wind and living with war and I have grown to understand more of his older stuff as I aged.

make sure you listen to The "RAW" version of Living With War since you seem to like his rockers, and it's a cool stripped down album with some excellent bass lines up front.

Are You Passionate? is probably in my top 5 just because i absolutely love his vocals on that album, and it has some versions of songs that were likely on Toast, which Neil Young said will come out. fingers crossed

samuel redman
10-21-2012, 11:22 AM
i like to think that Silver and Gold would now be considered one of his best if he had included "Out of Control" and "Slowpoke" which probably would have landed on it had it not been for the 1999 CSNY album. Silver and Gold, check it out redbreegull, you'll probably like the songs "The Great Divide" and "Red Sun"

samuel redman
10-21-2012, 11:30 AM
Sleep sWith Angels is painful to you Turalyon? i dunno, it has "A Dream That Can Last" "Change Your Mind" and "Driveby" which made it one of his i listen to a lot.

Old Ways original version in Archives 2!

TuralyonW3
10-21-2012, 11:45 PM
Sleep sWith Angels is painful to you Turalyon? i dunno, it has "A Dream That Can Last" "Change Your Mind" and "Driveby" which made it one of his i listen to a lot.

Old Ways original version in Archives 2!


no sleeps with angels was painful to cut from the top 10...check out my post again. it'd be in my top 15

samuel redman
10-22-2012, 12:19 PM
i wouldnt even bother with a list. would be too tough, i'd probably put anything of his on and think it was his best in the moment

gonna pick up Journeys today or tomorrow, really excited for it

Raskolnikov
10-22-2012, 12:59 PM
gonna pick up Journeys today or tomorrow, really excited for it

Right on. Lemme know what you think. Debating getting that for my Dad for Christmas, who's a pretty big Neil fan.

Great list action in this thread. The inclusion of "Fillmore East" over "Massey Hall" blows my mind, and has thus prompted a re-listening of Fillmore. It is indeed great... but man, I love that Massey Hall show. Few live recordings are as moody and dark as that thing is. Love it.

samuel redman
10-22-2012, 04:24 PM
make sure you add Cinnamon Girl which was from the same East show and was made for dl from the Archives.

samuel redman
10-24-2012, 01:08 PM
oh, PP is out btw

TuralyonW3
10-25-2012, 01:58 AM
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAKED

Raskolnikov
10-25-2012, 05:32 PM
Full audio from night one of Bridge School - quality stuff. All acoustic, inc: Ramada Inn.

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redbreegull
10-26-2012, 04:17 PM
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAKED

holy. fucking. balls. this album is a fucking monster

Venom
10-27-2012, 02:33 PM
Psychedelic Pill's easily the best album I've heard all year so far.

And how can you class Harvest Moon as a tier 2 Neil album?!?

samuel redman
10-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Natural Beauty, good idea

Venom
10-27-2012, 03:02 PM
Old King, You And Me, Harvest Moon, Natural Beauty.

Raskolnikov
10-28-2012, 10:22 AM
Old King, You And Me, Harvest Moon, Natural Beauty.

Not to mention "One of these Days" or "Dreamin' Man"...

redbreegull
10-28-2012, 04:43 PM
Psychedelic Pill's easily the best album I've heard all year so far.

And how can you class Harvest Moon as a tier 2 Neil album?!?

by far the best thing I've heard this year, or last year either. I'm really blown away by this record. The 28 minute opener is probably the weakest part. Great instrumentation but the stream of consciousness rambling lyrics get old after awhile. Gonna get a hip hop haircut. Finding my religion. I might be a pagan. Rocking out my anger.
But just there are no words for how intense some of these songs are

I'm also not that partial to Harvest Moon though. It has some really good songs on it, but also some mediocre ones.

samuel redman
10-28-2012, 07:38 PM
the lyrics in Driftin' Back correlate directly to his book

read it if you can

redbreegull
10-28-2012, 08:02 PM
the lyrics in Driftin' Back correlate directly to his book

read it if you can

yeah I figured it was about writing his book and thinking about his life. I will probably read it but I have a long queue of things to read so it could be awhile