Luke de Spa
07-19-2012, 05:38 PM
thread for toby to answer perfectly reasonable questions
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View Full Version : _____________, toby? Luke de Spa 07-19-2012, 05:38 PM thread for toby to answer perfectly reasonable questions Luke de Spa 07-19-2012, 05:39 PM have you ever hit a woman, toby? duovamp 07-19-2012, 05:41 PM Do you like being picked on, Toby? TuralyonW3 07-19-2012, 05:58 PM Which race smells the worst, Toby? Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 06:05 PM i'm not supposed to post, but i have to say that this is one of the reasons why this board is full of "adults" ? Shallowed 07-19-2012, 06:09 PM What's your least favorite color, Toby? redbreegull 07-19-2012, 06:13 PM i used to like luke de spa but now he only posts when he feels like sitting on his throne and telling everyone what their flaws are. it's funny, he's never even around for the arguments, he just arrives on the scene afterward to hold court Luke de Spa 07-19-2012, 06:14 PM i'm not supposed to post, but i have to say that this is one of the reasons why this board is full of "adults" ? please phrase your post as a question for toby Toby 07-19-2012, 06:15 PM Do you like being picked on, Toby? Been picked on all my life so I am used to it. Which race smells the worst, Toby? Mexicans What's your least favorite color, Toby? Yellow D. 07-19-2012, 06:16 PM i used to like luke de spa but now he only posts when he feels like sitting on his throne and telling everyone what their flaws are. it's funny, he's never even around for the arguments, he just arrives on the scene afterward to hold court http://www.smnnews.com/WP/wp-content/mobrulesband.jpg Luke de Spa 07-19-2012, 06:42 PM i used to like luke de spa but now he only posts when he feels like sitting on his throne and telling everyone what their flaws are. it's funny, he's never even around for the arguments, he just arrives on the scene afterward to hold court i don't do it to everyone, do i, toby? just the jerks, right, toby? like you and redbreegull, toby? john's ego 07-19-2012, 06:51 PM Have you ever hit a woman, toby? Dogfighter28 07-19-2012, 06:54 PM I thought bad smelling oils from certain races were only noticable to members of other races. john's ego 07-19-2012, 07:00 PM It's not a race/ethnicity thing. It's a dietary thing. Dogfighter28 07-19-2012, 07:03 PM are you suggesting tobes has a non mexican diet cause he seems to know his stuff and as a friend toby, you need to clean your shit up, i'm distressed by your recent behavior and unearthing of your uncouth posts. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 07:13 PM Do you really think Toby can be reformed into a good person, Toby? Mooney 07-19-2012, 07:16 PM if i kissed you passionately on the mouth, what would your reaction be, toby? Dogfighter28 07-19-2012, 07:17 PM Yeah tobes i'm not on a bandwagon I'm just don't tolerate hateful people Toby 07-19-2012, 07:22 PM if i kissed you passionately on the mouth, what would your reaction be, toby? surprised and then embarrassed about the obvious boner. Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 07:42 PM Toby, why do you think they're picking on you and not yo soy? Starla 07-19-2012, 07:43 PM Have you ever shoplifted? If not, would you try it? Charmbag 07-19-2012, 07:45 PM Toby, why do you think they're picking on you and not yo soy? Probably because yo soy apologized and isn't otherwise a misogynist, racist, charmless toolbox, Toby? Mooney 07-19-2012, 07:49 PM surprised and then embarrassed about the obvious boner. if i started stroking your erection through your pants until you were so hard you popped the button on your pants, what would you next move be, toby? Toby 07-19-2012, 08:02 PM Toby, why do you think they're picking on you and not yo soy? I don't know nor do I care. Have you ever shoplifted? If not, would you try it? Never. if i started stroking your erection through your pants until you were so hard you popped the button on your pants, what would you next move be, toby? Kiss you passionately Sonic Johnny 07-19-2012, 08:04 PM can I get a HOLLA, toby? Mooney 07-19-2012, 08:05 PM Kiss you passionately kiss me? you fucking faggot. :banging: reprise85 07-19-2012, 08:06 PM why are you avoiding the have you ever hit a woman question, toby? Toby 07-19-2012, 08:06 PM can I get a HOLLA, toby? Holla! Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 08:08 PM Probably because yo soy apologized and isn't [a] charmless toolbox pull the other one it has bells on Toby 07-19-2012, 08:09 PM kiss me? you fucking faggot. :banging: You started it! Charmbag 07-19-2012, 08:15 PM pull the other one it has bells on Quit trying to derail a thread about a man who (ab)uses prostitutes and strippers as well as his own girlfriend, is openly hostile to non-whiteys and, of course, has special contempt for and self-entitlement to women of color (coincidentally, like yo soy el mejor). But we know where your priorities lie. Mooney 07-19-2012, 08:16 PM You started it! i thought generally its not gay if our balls don't touch, but kissing is seventeen steps over the line. Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 08:19 PM Quit trying to derail a thread about a man who (ab)uses prostitutes and strippers as well as his own girlfriend, is openly hostile to non-whiteys and, of course, has special contempt for and self-entitlement to women of color (coincidentally, like yo soy el mejor). But we know where your priorities lie. I bet he'll change if you bully him enough. Toby 07-19-2012, 08:20 PM Well I apologize for crossing the line, moon man. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 08:21 PM As a wise woman once said, "I don't have hope, I have rage." Mooney 07-19-2012, 08:21 PM Well I apologize for crossing the line, moon man. luckily we were still speaking in hypotheticals. i will now know better than to ever stroke your cock for real. homo. redbreegull 07-19-2012, 08:22 PM I bet he'll change if you bully him enough. what are you talking about, charmbag's methods of argument are very convincing, she is a master rhetorician and has accrued many supporters because of her tact and judiciousness Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 08:56 PM Charmbag's methods of argument are very convincing, she is a mater rhetorician and has accrued many supporters in spite of her lack of tact and judiciousness, actually. john's ego 07-19-2012, 09:10 PM 01-07-2012, 01:48 AM I went to Super Target on Monday and noticed an unusual number of black people out and about and was wondering why and then I realized it was da first of da month. john's ego 07-19-2012, 09:10 PM What do black people have to do with the first of the month, Toby? john's ego 07-19-2012, 09:20 PM And did you know, TOBY, that the Monday of the week you made that post, TOBY, was in fact the SECOND OF THE MONTH, <i>TOBY</i>???? reprise85 07-19-2012, 09:32 PM people on govt assistance generally don't get paid until the third, fyi, toby? reprise85 07-19-2012, 09:33 PM the exception being if the third falls on a holiday or weekend, toby? reprise85 07-19-2012, 09:36 PM i mean if you're going to be racist at least get your calendar correct, you feel me, toby? Scarecrow 07-19-2012, 10:36 PM Hey did you ever find your missing wallet, Toby? Dead Frequency 07-19-2012, 10:44 PM Uh yeah I don't know that to be true. Dead Frequency 07-19-2012, 10:48 PM And fuck everybody living in buster ass chumpville acting like they live in mayor's mansion. Some ol' high and mighty booshit routine. mxzombie 07-19-2012, 10:50 PM And did you know, TOBY, that the Monday of the week you made that post, TOBY, was in fact the SECOND OF THE MONTH, <i>TOBY</i>???? jb, you're a real dick. <img src=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3bBvxmD2DVY/Tym7PcTiPeI/AAAAAAAABR8/Cmf7A0wlris/s1600/Detective.jpg> Toby 07-19-2012, 11:03 PM Hey did you ever find your missing wallet, Toby? Yah, the mail lady returned it to me a day later, said it was found in a mailbox. john's ego 07-19-2012, 11:05 PM It just stood out to me since I knew the year started on a sunday. mxzombie 07-19-2012, 11:09 PM i just want to make sure you know i was calling you a detective. that was an astute observation. duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:12 PM Charmbag's methods of argument are very convincing, she is a mater rhetorician and has accrued many supporters in spite of her lack of tact and judiciousness, actually. Yeah but she still mad about my dyke rage comment. Get trolled. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:17 PM you called me a raging dyke? duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:19 PM You referenced it like 5 times. Pretend you're above getting your pretty little feathers ruffled, princess. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:25 PM Oh I did, did I? Let's see the receipts. duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:29 PM Don't question my encyclopedic knowledge of Netphoria, ca. 2006 to present. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:30 PM The search function tells all. duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:34 PM http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?p=3814108 Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:37 PM Okay good, now where did I reference your "dyke rage" comment duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:39 PM Do your own homework. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:40 PM That's what I thought. duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:42 PM I don't dance for you. You dance for me. Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 11:42 PM *head-desk* Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:43 PM No shit. I'm interesting and you're boring. Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:44 PM Why won't you tell us if you've ever hit a woman, Toby? Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 11:45 PM Because he hit a woman and is ashamed of himself and rightly so why do you have to make him feel bad in front of you duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:45 PM http://i.qkme.me/3orb2w.jpg Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 11:46 PM yeah that's great guy ur fuckin hilarious & etc Charmbag 07-19-2012, 11:48 PM Because he hit a woman and is ashamed of himself and rightly so why do you have to make him feel bad in front of you What makes you think he's capable of shame? Have you ever hit a woman, Trotskilicious? duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:49 PM Charmbag isn't desperate for attention or anything. duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:50 PM Did your mother divorce your father, Charmbag? Does he not see you often? Do you want him to know how well you did in school? Does he have your eyes? duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:50 PM Sarcastic Smile was way better. Let's replace you with her. She was at least entertaining. john's ego 07-19-2012, 11:52 PM There's some dischord between the idea that Toby is embarrassed to directly address his misogynist/racist beliefs and the fact that he regularly says misogynistic and racist shit. john's ego 07-19-2012, 11:52 PM http://forums.netphoria.org/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=11238 duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:53 PM Fucking cry about it. Did you ever get that trailer btw? duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:55 PM This guuuuuuy. http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=150323 Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 11:56 PM There's some dischord between the idea that Toby is embarrassed to directly address his misogynist/racist beliefs and the fact that he regularly says misogynistic and racist shit. He is right though, Toberone. duovamp 07-19-2012, 11:57 PM If I don't change what I think is a person's personality on the internet, why, I'll simply be so upset I don't know what I'll do! Trotskilicious 07-19-2012, 11:58 PM I have never struck a foul blow or turned a card in my life. duovamp 07-20-2012, 12:02 AM Let our newfound white knight prove himself here. Luke de Spa 07-20-2012, 12:59 AM isn't there …some dischord between the idea that Toby is embarrassed to directly address his misogynist/racist beliefs and the fact that he regularly says misogynistic and racist shit , toby? Luke de Spa 07-20-2012, 01:03 AM why do you have to make him feel bad in front of you because You must have missed the part where I said I didn't give a fuck , so can't you see that there might be some merit in refusing to accept toby's publicly-stated willful douchebaggery, toby? Charmbag 07-20-2012, 01:09 AM We already know he's a john, so in any case he can just go to hell and wait. duovamp 07-20-2012, 01:12 AM dischord lol duovamp 07-20-2012, 01:13 AM Johnbo - the audience too stupid to laugh Future Boy 07-20-2012, 05:11 AM Toby, why do you think they're picking on you and not yo soy? POWER DYNAMICS Toby 07-20-2012, 06:50 AM He is right though, Toberone. I'm not embarrassed about anything, I have chosen not to engage in the smear campaign against me. I'd much rather utilize the ignore list function so I don't feel compelled to defend myself or explain my actions which I honestly don't find necessary to do on Netphoria because as I have stated a couple times already: I do not give a single fuck as to what any of you think about me. Dogfighter28 07-20-2012, 08:02 AM Running away from criticisms and problems is always a good course of action dean_r_koontz 07-20-2012, 08:16 AM Why haven't you answered the question about if you've hit a woman or not Toby? If you don't care what anyone thinks you could surely answer this one truthfully. dean_r_koontz 07-20-2012, 08:24 AM i used to like luke de spa but now he only posts when he feels like sitting on his throne and telling everyone what their flaws are. it's funny, he's never even around for the arguments, he just arrives on the scene afterward to hold court mmmmm the delicious self pity Cool As Ice Cream 07-20-2012, 08:25 AM where is your birth certificate, toby? reprise85 07-20-2012, 09:47 AM I'm not embarrassed about anything, I have chosen not to engage in the smear campaign against me. I'd much rather utilize the ignore list function so I don't feel compelled to defend myself or explain my actions which I honestly don't find necessary to do on Netphoria because as I have stated a couple times already: I do not give a single fuck as to what any of you think about me. it's not a smear campaign if it's true pale_princess 07-20-2012, 09:48 AM et tu, toby? D. 07-20-2012, 03:06 PM Pack of wolves mentality in full force lately... Good job, netphoria, keep throwing stones; just hope your own house isn't see-through. Dogfighter28 07-20-2012, 03:12 PM Nah we just express our honest opinions when people do things like use the word nigger, or, say, air their dirty laundry and exploit people close to them for board entertainment. D. 07-20-2012, 03:21 PM Nah we just express our honest opinions when people do things like use the word nigger, or, say, air their dirty laundry and exploit people close to them for board entertainment. I don't why you say "we" because I wasn't hounded by vultures when I made that thread about B last year. That thread could have easily been viewed as slightly misogynistic and "gaslighting" and maybe two people objected to the way in which I posted, but they didn't follow me around and demand answers. Netphoria sure has selective smelling when there's blood in the water. Future Boy 07-20-2012, 03:30 PM Nah we just express our honest opinions when people do things like use the word nigger, or, say, air their dirty laundry and exploit people close to them for board entertainment. really, because those posts and things have been out there since when? I mean its not like these are rf9 revelations being thrown out there. None of this is secret. You really are just piling on, you could at least be funny with it. duovamp 07-20-2012, 03:32 PM Today you, tomorrow me, the day after... Everybody gets a turn. john's ego 07-20-2012, 04:03 PM I don't why you say "we" because I wasn't hounded by vultures when I made that thread about B last year. That thread could have easily been viewed as slightly misogynistic and "gaslighting" and maybe two people objected to the way in which I posted, but they didn't follow me around and demand answers. Netphoria sure has selective smelling when there's blood in the water. your wife really was being crazy at that time, though D. 07-20-2012, 04:04 PM your wife really was being crazy at that time, though True that. Dogfighter28 07-20-2012, 05:02 PM I hadn't seen these posts before Dogfighter28 07-20-2012, 05:02 PM You guys act like netphoria canon is hard wired into everyone's internal hdd D. 07-20-2012, 05:22 PM If one is not aware of something, then maybe one doesn't need to throw their worthless judgements around. D. 07-20-2012, 05:27 PM I didn't start out on notable indie rock messageboard Hipinion, slinging shit and dog-piling on people who were easy targets. Because i may have seen how everyone pointed out their shit in every thread and they'd all circle in for the kill, but that didn't mean I knew fuck-all about board history. D. 07-20-2012, 05:28 PM BTW this isn't necessarily directed at you, prbb Future Boy 07-21-2012, 12:32 AM just apply the parts that fit hnibos 07-21-2012, 01:29 AM your wife really was being crazy at that time, though Flailing her arms around and shit. hnibos 07-21-2012, 01:30 AM I hadn't seen these posts before And if you saw them by chance, and no one else had said anything, you wouldn't have either. Dogfighter28 07-21-2012, 03:25 PM Maybe not, but I would have been upset by them dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 03:30 PM I don't why you say "we" because I wasn't hounded by vultures when I made that thread about B last year. That thread could have easily been viewed as slightly misogynistic and "gaslighting" and maybe two people objected to the way in which I posted, but they didn't follow me around and demand answers. Netphoria sure has selective smelling when there's blood in the water. Can you refresh my memory because i don't seem to recall there being anything close to "fucking a prostitute without a condom high on cocaine" in that thread. dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 03:32 PM with that said both duovamps and D's inexplicable defense of Toby makes one think they've got some skeletons in the closet as well. Dead Frequency 07-21-2012, 05:10 PM You don't boyyo? D. 07-21-2012, 05:13 PM Of course dean doesn't have any skeleton. He's Mr. Fucking Righteous, check him out. Doing the Lord's work in this thread like it's the goddamned Inquisition. D. 07-21-2012, 05:16 PM Can you refresh my memory because i don't seem to recall there being anything close to "fucking a prostitute without a condom high on cocaine" in that thread. Judge Judy, since you are blameless, what are the arbitrary levels you've set up for everyone else? It'd be nice to know for the next little Netphorian dog pile. with that said both duovamps and D's inexplicable defense of Toby makes one think they've got some skeletons in the closet as well. Where have I actually defended Toby? I am simply against mob rule. You sit behind your little computer screen casting aspersions at people who you don't even know. Fuck off, snot-nosed creep. Nimrod's Son 07-21-2012, 05:39 PM What the fuck is Wrong with you people? So Toby fucked a hooker and did some blow. He's not hurting anyone. dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 07:10 PM Just got caught eating a bucketload of my own feces, the people turned their noses up at me as if i had done something wrong. Well i ain't hurtin' nobody, this is mob rule! D. 07-21-2012, 07:13 PM where is your birth certificate, toby? This, however, has gone conspicuously unanswered. dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 07:20 PM D i think you'll find that if Toby posted his little story on say, Hipinion, he would get just as warm a reaction as he has here. A lot of people will feel genuinely disgusted by what Toby did, just like you would feel disgusted if you found out that i eat my own poop. It is funny that you can't even wrap your head around that these feelings might be real, i recon you're real trash. D. 07-21-2012, 07:28 PM My disgust has nothing to do with any of this. I never condoned or praised his actions. I have no problem with two consenting adults fucking and doing cocaine. You apparently do. As for him being "racist" and "misogynistic", if I avoided everyone whose opinions differed from mine, I would literally just end up talking to myself. Example: B has a cousin and I know his opinion of Black people; we go over to his and his wife's house for big cookouts probably three times a year and we go over there to drink and bullshit probably 10-15 times a year. He doesn't openly express his opinions 99% of the time I have ever talked to him over the last seven years - should I dog pile on him and call him trash because I don't agree with him? Apparently you would, although I have a feeling you wouldn't actually stand up for anything in real life. If that makes me "trash", I'm good with that. D. 07-21-2012, 07:41 PM I mean, you post nothing of substance. All you do is post inflammatory and contrary opinions while offering nothing of actual value. I don't begrudge Toby for going through a bit of inner turmoil, if you actually know how low he fell after the thang with his fiance (I think it was his fiance). Someone else mentioned it earlier this month, something about his "dark night of the soul". Dude's got some heavy shit going on and if he's pursuing oblivion by doing stuff that doesn't hurt anyone but himself, then let him. I'd much rather know someone/read someone going through real life shit than your inane garbage. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 08:04 PM Apparently you would, although I have a feeling you wouldn't actually stand up for anything in real life. i'm pretty sure that goes for every single member of the judgement patrol dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 08:08 PM ha ha i've been through worse than Toby and you put together you fat american slob. And for the other fat american slob who just posted, you don't know anything. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 08:10 PM you've really been through pretty much exactly the same shit as i have, dean. dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 08:17 PM you've really been through pretty much exactly the same shit as i have, dean. actually no, you're a manic depressive who refused to take medication for god knows how long. I've been suffering from untreateable anxiety ,paranoia and anhedonia for the last 16 years, every day, no ups and no relief. i've been depressed as well, i take that over the shit i've had every day of the week. (and there was that year when i was so sick from sleep deprivation that i could barely walk, there's a reason sleep deprivation is used as a method of torture, if you ever get into a situation like that, god forbid, you'll find out too). Dark nights of the soul. lolz. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 08:23 PM i'm not manic but okay, you're different unique and special or whatever dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 08:27 PM fair enough, last time i read something you posted about your condition i got the impression that you had gotten better after taking mood stabilizers. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 08:29 PM for a little bit i guess i'm still a hopeless lonely mess dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 08:47 PM well i'm not going to argue that you've had a tough life, i know that you have. if you reread my fat american slob post you'll see that i was talking about having had a harder life than Toby and D (D being the fat american slob). The SECOND american slob was you however, for saying dumb shit like i've never stood up for anything. dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 08:58 PM now back on topic: 1:are you disgusted by what Toby did D? 2:why are you choosing to defend this asshole instead of the long range of people who've been posting here that reasonably were much more deserving of being defended? i've never seen you step up once up until now. john's ego 07-21-2012, 09:32 PM As for him being "racist" and "misogynistic", if I avoided everyone whose opinions differed from mine, I would literally just end up talking to myself. Actually no you wouldn't. I don't know how easy it is in the midwest. But I've been surprised to find that since I started taking a stand against the shitty behavior of my "friends" that I've naturally attracted the company of people who are thoroughly awesome, thoughtful, caring, selfless, etc. It just sort of happens. And this isn't really a matter of "opinions differing from yours". You can disagree with people all you want on all sort of issues. Habitual oppressive behavior should be a deal breaker for you. Toby is well aware that what he does is wrong. I've done a lot of things in my life that I'm not proud of. But I own up to them and at least attempt to better myself as a person, because that's what a good person does. Toby has been threadsitting this thread ever since it was made, ignoring many an opportunity to come clean on his contemptible actions. But he's a coward who loves the privilege that the patriarchy has bestowed upon him. He doesn't want to let it go because he just can't stand the idea of treating others with respect. There's only a couple of explanations for his showing in this thread. Either he believes that being racist and hitting women is alright, is remorseless for this position and thinks that we're just on a senseless witch hunt because we're persecuting him for his "opinions" or....well, actually, that's pretty much the only explanation. Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 09:48 PM i'm pretty sure that goes for every single member of the judgement patrol "you don't know me but i know you" maybe that's true, though, and specific persons wouldn't call it out in a social setting. or maybe they would. you have no way of knowing. but it's not relevant; that someone might desire to avoid a Situation obviously doesn't mean douchebaggery shouldn't be called out at all. in any case, such a desire would probably have nothing to do with the underlying ethics, and rather arise out of self-preservation. btw if i wasn't clear earlier, this thread exists because, in response to questions about his bigotry, toby specifically said he doesn't "give a fuck" what people here think about him. people like that don't deserve a free pass, do they, toby? no, toby, they don't. toby. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 09:51 PM ok so we don't know each other so everything you said after that is basically babble john's ego 07-21-2012, 09:51 PM you what else toby doesn't give a fuck about? women and black people. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 09:53 PM well i don't think he's posting anymore so you won Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 09:58 PM ok so we don't know each other so everything you said after that is basically babble don't be fatuous, jeffrey. "that someone might desire to avoid a Situation obviously doesn't mean douchebaggery shouldn't be called out at all" was the crux of my post and is plainly not contingent on knowing the mind of any specific person. Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 09:59 PM …toby? Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:01 PM don't call me fatuous i'm festively plump Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:02 PM besides luke i read that blog thing about the summer camp experiment if we're all just biologically driven to tribalism why do you place valued judgements on others? like seriously this moral crusade coupled with your determinism is confusing to me Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 10:14 PM if we're all just biologically driven to tribalism why do you place valued judgements on others? like seriously this moral crusade coupled with your determinism is confusing to me confusing to you? try making sense of mentally parsing two wildly divergent points of view. the best i can do to explain it is that i can only internalise one worldview at a time and, since the humans-have-agency/social-justice-seeking viewpoint is what my brain is wired up for, that's what gets spun up in most social situations. the meat-robot/determinist viewpoint, on the other hand, only really arises out of introspection or the relatively rare social contexts in which it's intuitively pertinent. it's literally impossible for me to keep it in mind all the time – i'm just not hooked up that way. you can't choose what you want Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:18 PM people choose interesting moments to care about "bullying" and ~free speech~ Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:21 PM well i'm not just choosing to change myself for sake of convenience i'm lonely and sad and posting on netphoria on saturday night maybe it has to do with the fact that i'm condescending, rude, and insulting. D. 07-21-2012, 10:22 PM I love that dean's only response to everything I said was to shoot back with xenophobia. That shows me everything i need to know about him. Next! pavementtune 07-21-2012, 10:24 PM Seriously? You guys are filling page after page with exactly zero result, insulting someone, jumping to conclusions (he doesn't answer your fucked-up question, therefore he must be beating up women), judging him as "not a good person". You enjoy to judge and bully, while posting on the same board about how awful those kids on the bus were and how they should be punished. And then you call it "standing up for something" and "calling out bad behavior". Wtf happened to this board? Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:27 PM if you're gonna brag about using prostitutes I'm gonna remind you that you're a piece of shit. this isn't that complicated Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:28 PM then why do you categorically deny applying personal judgement on the basis of your radical political philosophy D. 07-21-2012, 10:29 PM And this isn't really a matter of "opinions differing from yours". You can disagree with people all you want on all sort of issues. Habitual oppressive behavior should be a deal breaker for you. But he's a coward who loves the privilege that the patriarchy has bestowed upon him. He doesn't want to let it go because he just can't stand the idea of treating others with respect. Well, I mean, according to certain schools of thought that I have read myself, I'm being oppressive simply by being white and male... which would mean I shouldn't be friends with anyone who is white or male. Which would leave my mom, sister, my daughter, and B. There has to be a line drawn somewhere. I just feel that a person can be otherwise good, even if they have shady opinions on stuff. My dad is homophobic and slightly racist, but he doesn't show his ass about it. Should I disassociate with him because he's not repentant? Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:29 PM I apply personal judgment on the basis of me being a human being Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:31 PM well regardless i think your "judged" list is far longer for far stupider reasons than hiring prostitutes i mean really who isn't a piece of shit to you, julio? lol.... D. 07-21-2012, 10:35 PM I hope that Toby is not a woman-beater. But, see, I give him the benefit of the doubt. This all started because someone wants to call him out for being what they perceive as a shitty person. When Toby says, "Look, I'm not going to even dignify that [beater allegation] with an answer." Everyone goes ape shit and presume guilt. If someone made a thread saying "HEY D. WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER YES OR NO IF YOU'RE A PEDOPHILE" I would literally not answer. I would maybe post a funny picture of me and the kid looking at you like you were retarded but that's it. Some allegations don't deserve answers. He doesn't owe anyone jack shit. Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:35 PM well regardless i think your "judged" list is far longer for far stupider reasons than hiring prostitutes i mean really who isn't a piece of shit to you, julio? lol.... I think you've interpreted things I've said as condemnation when really I don't call practically anyone else here names like that. not you, not Eulogy nor anyone I've gone back and forth with. but this thread isn't about me. carry on. Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 10:37 PM Seriously? You guys are filling page after page with exactly zero result, insulting someone, jumping to conclusions (he doesn't answer your fucked-up question, therefore he must be beating up women), judging him as "not a good person". You enjoy to judge and bully, while posting on the same board about how awful those kids on the bus were and how they should be punished. And then you call it "standing up for something" and "calling out bad behavior". Wtf happened to this board? this thread exists because he's been unapologetically shitty previously. "have you ever hit a woman, toby?" was an intuitive but intentionally trollish leap from his racism and use of prostitutes. there's little point in inferring anything from his decision not to answer, except insofar as it adds some colour to his "i don't give a fuck what you think" line i can't believe i have to explain this D. 07-21-2012, 10:38 PM people choose interesting moments to care about "bullying" and ~free speech~ They sure do. Not more than six years ago, Julio told me that it was too bad that my 4-month-old niece died before I got a chance to molest her. Now he's Super Feminist. Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:39 PM why don't you make a thread about Julio, I'm sure we can sort this out D. 07-21-2012, 10:39 PM but I will digress and agree to step out of this because if Toby isn't going to respond to the jackals, then I sure am done dealing with it. duovamp 07-21-2012, 10:40 PM Come on, guys. She's trolling your nuts off. You think she doesn't know that not all forms of speech are protected, namely harassment/hate speech? Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:40 PM well whatever this is a great way to spend a saturday night, instead of making friends we make enemies on the internet. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:40 PM but it's the others who are wrong, right. gotcha. duovamp 07-21-2012, 10:41 PM And yeah I am involved in feminist activism here in Portland. Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:42 PM you guys are so weird Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 10:42 PM I think you've interpreted things I've said as condemnation when really I don't call practically anyone else here names like that. not you, not Eulogy nor anyone I've gone back and forth with. so calling me a "beta male" was just a laff ? Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:43 PM is that what this is all about? D. 07-21-2012, 10:43 PM I have some vodka WHO IS GETTIN' FUXXED UP TONIIIIITE WHAT'S UP PORTLAND Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:44 PM look Trotsky, I'm sorry I called you a beta male. that really has nothing to do with passing moral judgement on anyone though Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:44 PM this thread could definitely use some alcohol Charmbag 07-21-2012, 10:45 PM ladies leave your man at home. the board is full of ballas and they pockets full grown. duovamp 07-21-2012, 10:47 PM And yeah I am involved in alcohol activism here in Portland. Future Boy 07-21-2012, 10:47 PM There's only a couple of explanations for his showing in this thread. or....well, actually, that's pretty much the only explanation. How toby could be reluctant to reply to any of this is a mystery. pavementtune 07-21-2012, 10:49 PM Charmbag, that you think you have a godgiven right, to call someone a piece of shit, is obvious. And your thoughts on prostitutes are well known on this board. Have you ever counted how many of your posts are judgemental? And since the line between insulting and free speech isn't complicated for you, how come you feel the need to use the term "misogynist" in every thread? Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 10:49 PM but I will digress and agree to step out of this because if Toby isn't going to respond to the jackals, then I sure am done dealing with it. jackals? are you kidding? guy is a proud d-bag and a few people question him in one thread and they're "jackals"? your perspective makes no sense to me D. 07-21-2012, 10:52 PM Gotta get that last word huh, Luke? Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 10:58 PM this is a thread on a message board, not a debate with a time limit. no need to resort to sophistry. you're better than that. pavementtune 07-21-2012, 11:00 PM Luke, have a look at your own thread again, and then try to explain it to yourself. As D. stated before, Toby isn't posting in this thread, what makes this not a conversation/discussion but an accusation. D. 07-21-2012, 11:00 PM this is a thread on a message board, not a debate with a time limit. no need to resort to sophistry. you're better than that. It's not sophistry. I am literally done with it. You're right, if Toby isn't going to answer or atone, then why am I even bothering? I saw a dog-pile, accompanied by an antagonistic thread, and responded to it. I was then lumped in with Toby by dean simply for speaking out against the dog-pile, and then Charmbag trolled us all. Charmbag 07-21-2012, 11:01 PM I enjoy this thread and it makes perfect sense to me. maybe this just isn't the thread for you, pavementtune. Dead Frequency 07-21-2012, 11:04 PM Just as long as some one is on the cross everything will be ok for everybody. pavementtune 07-21-2012, 11:15 PM It sure isn't, and the fact that you enjoy it, miss "oppression must be stopped ", tells more about you than your feminism rants combined. Luke de Spa 07-21-2012, 11:15 PM It's not sophistry. I am literally done with it. You're right, if Toby isn't going to answer or atone, then why am I even bothering? instead of remarking upon the substance of what i was saying, you made a snide post about my intentions. that's sophistry. I saw a dog-pile, accompanied by an antagonistic thread, and responded to it. I was then lumped in with Toby by dean simply for speaking out against the dog-pile, and then Charmbag trolled us all. there's no "dog-pile". this thread is a direct reaction to toby, in response to being questioned about his bigotry, saying he doesn't give a fuck what we think. i thought that was worth exploring. D. 07-21-2012, 11:18 PM there's no "dog-pile". this thread is a direct reaction to toby, in response to being questioned about his bigotry, saying he doesn't give a fuck what we think. i thought that was worth exploring. gotcha duovamp 07-21-2012, 11:20 PM D. isn't condoning any behavior, he's condemning shitty behavior, just like any of you. He's breaking up the typical Netphorian pile. So why is anyone jumping at him? Animals. dean_r_koontz 07-21-2012, 11:21 PM Toby 2012 Charmbag 07-21-2012, 11:29 PM I'm a bad, bad lady duovamp 07-21-2012, 11:33 PM Desperate for the attention your father never gave? I asked you that before but you avoided the question. HOW INCRIMINATING. Trotskilicious 07-21-2012, 11:41 PM i think who is the most like daniel tosh on netphoria and the answer is always invariably duovamp duovamp 07-21-2012, 11:42 PM Ugh. That's low. :( duovamp 07-21-2012, 11:43 PM I still don't get why you of all people pick at me. Future Boy 07-22-2012, 12:02 AM because you're horrible D. 07-22-2012, 12:08 AM naw, duovamp is normally pretty coll. sometimes he's not funny but no one is at 100% all the time. redbreegull 07-22-2012, 12:18 AM futureboy is awful but people generally leave him alone. there is no justice in the world Trotskilicious 07-22-2012, 12:19 AM well you're horrible and everyone knows it so there is some justice in the world Future Boy 07-22-2012, 12:25 AM maybe its because I'm awesome. Luke de Spa 07-22-2012, 12:32 AM also it's somewhat more of an effort to counter oblique "POWER DYNAMICS" posts Luke de Spa 07-22-2012, 12:32 AM for example Toby 07-22-2012, 12:49 AM I hope that Toby is not a woman-beater.. against my better judgement I am replying to this. I never saw anyone ask about this because over half the people posting in this thread are on my ignore list, but let the Netphorian record show that I have never in my life hit a woman. carry on, y'all. Toby 07-22-2012, 12:51 AM However, I did hit my sister with a hockey stick when I was like 12 but it was totally an accident. D. 07-22-2012, 12:53 AM against my better judgement I am replying to this. I never saw anyone ask about this because over half the people posting in this thread are on my ignore list, but let the Netphorian record show that I have never in my life hit a woman. carry on, y'all. :love: duovamp 07-22-2012, 01:00 AM No YOU'RE horrible! vbshlofbvgos 07-22-2012, 01:11 AM i never hit a woman who didn't deserve it, toby? Mayfuck 07-22-2012, 01:33 AM did you hit hera vbshlofbvgos 07-22-2012, 01:45 AM no i did not Mayfuck 07-22-2012, 05:14 AM good. i imagine you and hera like leo and shelly from twin peaks yo soy el mejor 07-22-2012, 05:19 AM and all the fellas leave yo girl with her friends cause it's 23:30 and the club is jumpin', jumpin' Charmbag 07-22-2012, 05:29 AM :D Dead Frequency 07-22-2012, 06:53 AM <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PKolyDx5kRc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |