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amoergosum
06-29-2012, 02:11 PM
...some great performances. Let's share >>>


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meangreensp
06-29-2012, 03:07 PM
That performance of Perfect was perfect.

opera de nuit
06-29-2012, 03:33 PM
magic:

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amoergosum
06-29-2012, 03:33 PM
Probably the best performance of Ava Adore >>>

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Eulogy
06-29-2012, 05:17 PM
i have some show from atlanta in '98 that i like listening to

pug, ava adore, and tear are highlights.

Eulogy
06-29-2012, 05:18 PM
pug with the drum intro is better than pug with the guitar intro

amoergosum
06-29-2012, 05:51 PM
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meangreensp
06-30-2012, 12:17 AM
Probably the best performance of Ava Adore >>>

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Why were crowds so much wilder in the 90s? Even bands with younger audiences, crowds don't move at all anymore.

krackhead
06-30-2012, 01:14 AM
I went to one of the adore shows in New York. It was on 8/1/98. There were 2 shows 8/1 and 8/2 in radio city hall. Pretty awesome show, and the closest my seats ever were to the band. I had 5th row seats for adore on the left right next to darcy. I remember thinking that she was looking right at me and I was about to bust one in my pants when I was about 14. The rest of the shows I saw with the pumpkins were crap seats. But anyhow, the adore tour was great.


Why were crowds so much wilder in the 90s? Even bands with younger audiences, crowds don't move at all anymore.

the crowds SUCK. I saw a radiohead show on 12/19/97 in NY where people were jumping all over each other in the mosh pits and going crazy, thom yorke sweating his ass off. I saw them again on 3/1/2012 and the crowds were shit. The audience were much younger and were all just standing around starring at their feet. Most of the people discovered radiohead in the same week they went to the show. Its impossible to get a ticket, and the show sells out in seconds, and it is still an AWESOME show. Yet all these stupid younger kids just don't know how to rock out at a show.

slunken
06-30-2012, 01:39 AM
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stumpycat
06-30-2012, 01:54 AM
The tour versions of Adore songs are badass - they take on a whole new life and energy they don't quite have on the record. They are sort of a nice meld between atmospheric and melodic and dark and heavy. Looking back, it was great that Billy completely forewent trying to imitate Jimmy and just employed a radically different rhythm arrangement instead.

And oh yeah, I forgot how fucken young Bill still looked back then!

amoergosum
06-30-2012, 02:33 AM
pug with the drum intro is better than pug with the guitar intro

This version is incredible >>>

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iPumpkin
06-30-2012, 02:51 AM
I went to one of the adore shows in New York. It was on 8/1/98. There were 2 shows 8/1 and 8/2 in radio city hall. Pretty awesome show, and the closest my seats ever were to the band. I had 5th row seats for adore on the left right next to darcy. I remember thinking that she was looking right at me and I was about to bust one in my pants when I was about 14. The rest of the shows I saw with the pumpkins were crap seats. But anyhow, the adore tour was great.




the crowds SUCK. I saw a radiohead show on 12/19/97 in NY where people were jumping all over each other in the mosh pits and going crazy, thom yorke sweating his ass off. I saw them again on 3/1/2012 and the crowds were shit. The audience were much younger and were all just standing around starring at their feet. Most of the people discovered radiohead in the same week they went to the show. Its impossible to get a ticket, and the show sells out in seconds, and it is still an AWESOME show. Yet all these stupid younger kids just don't know how to rock out at a show.

agree x100 2007 Zeitgeist tour in Columbia a whole family was sleeping next to me.

It was bizarre.

cardiac
06-30-2012, 03:39 AM
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Probably my favourite version. The crowd is insane.

amoergosum
06-30-2012, 03:57 AM
Probably my favourite version. The crowd is insane.

Love it...check out this version of Ava Adore...same show...INCREDIBLE energy >>>

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Rumpkin
06-30-2012, 04:36 AM
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that's fucking awesome.

amoergosum
06-30-2012, 05:13 AM
...makes you think why they didn't book a studio for a day and record
the new versions with the touring band...would love to have a studio recording
of the Adore Tour version of Stumbleine for example.

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samuel redman
06-30-2012, 10:55 AM
this is my personal favorite live era for the band. something incredible about it that i can't place a finger on

amoergosum
06-30-2012, 10:59 AM
The Stumbleine video I posted >>> does anyone know what show this was?

rudi
06-30-2012, 11:19 AM
Why were crowds so much wilder in the 90s? Even bands with younger audiences, crowds don't move at all anymore.

Indifference is cool now man... Look at all the hipsters. Isn't indifference their uniting characteristic?

samuel redman
06-30-2012, 11:58 AM
ahaha

2COOL2CARE

meangreensp
06-30-2012, 12:10 PM
It's gotta be the hipsters and this way that people just eat music and spit it back out. They don't feel it anymore, they just download it, listen to a week, review it on the blog, never listen to it again.

But I just hate how crowds nowadays are so lame. I want to move and rock out and concerts, but people look at me weird. When I saw Radiohead I had seats because the pit sold out (no one moved in the pit, shocker) and the people behind me were like "Are you GOING TO STAND ALL SHOW?"

Yes, I am, jackass.

I can't tell if it's just the rock audience aging or the new people not caring as much. I didn't like moshing, but I like it when the crowds move...the only show I've ever been to where the pit moved was Muse and a terrible show that I got dragged to (Saliva).

It really sucks though because tickets sell out immediately and no one moves anymore. Concerts aren't as much fun. Oh well.

I saw a few shows in the late 90s...wild crowds.

Started going to every show in the 2000s...dead crowds.

Especially at Pumpkins shows, hipster overload.

Eulogy
06-30-2012, 12:20 PM
It's gotta be the hipsters and this way that people just eat music and spit it back out. They don't feel it anymore, they just download it, listen to a week, review it on the blog, never listen to it again.



what the fuck are you talking about

Caine Walker
06-30-2012, 12:35 PM
the fixation with "hipsters" in this forum is fucking nauseating.

meangreensp
06-30-2012, 12:39 PM
what the fuck are you talking about

While Corgan's wrong because most of his music excluding Oceania sucks, he's also right about the way people view music nowadays.

Deal with it.

The people who listen to alternative rock don't have "favorite bands" anymore, just a laundry list of an iTunes library. So when they go to a show, it's to say they've seen it and not to really enjoy it. aka Hipsters

Eulogy
06-30-2012, 12:45 PM
While Corgan's wrong because most of his music excluding Oceania sucks, he's also right about the way people view music nowadays.

Deal with it.

The people who listen to alternative rock don't have "favorite bands" anymore, just a laundry list of an iTunes library. So when they go to a show, it's to say they've seen it and not to really enjoy it. aka Hipsters

what the fuck are you talking about

reprise85
06-30-2012, 12:54 PM
what the fuck are you talking about

@meangreensp you're just getting older and out of touch

not about the crowd thing, but about "kids these days don't blah blah blah"

Eulogy
06-30-2012, 12:58 PM
such aggressive stupidity always surprises me

it shouldn't at this point i guess.

amoergosum
06-30-2012, 12:59 PM
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Copperpot5
06-30-2012, 01:19 PM
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amoergosum
06-30-2012, 01:19 PM
Quote from the "Intimate & Interactive" interview:

Billy Corgan:
"The other day I was doing an interview and the guy asked me "...why is it important for James and D'Arcy to still be in the band ?". And I said '...well, every song that I've ever written that means anything to me James and D'Arcy were in the room so whatever that chemistry is...whatever dynamic we have, it's a magical thing. At this point we don't even question it. I feel very strongly that D'Arcy really is the moral conscience of the band...I mean...D'Arcy is the strongest person in the band...and James is probably the most sensitive."

"In between the two of them there is a polar axis that goes on that levels me out and I think pulls them in and out so...it's pretty amazing."

amoergosum
06-30-2012, 01:22 PM
Hilarious >>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWwGBXV07fA#t=23m39s

reprise85
06-30-2012, 01:44 PM
ahaha

meangreensp
06-30-2012, 02:03 PM
such aggressive stupidity always surprises me

it shouldn't at this point i guess.

Agreed, you are fucking stupid.

sppunk
06-30-2012, 02:55 PM
Do you not realize European and South American crowds have always been better than US crowds?

meangreen might be the most dense person here. Being 15 doesn't help.

D.
06-30-2012, 03:17 PM
...some great performances. Let's share >>>

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ahhh, nostalgia. i remember being in front of the tv, with vcr set to record, when this came on.

D.
06-30-2012, 03:21 PM
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this, too! such an awkward interview!

stumpycat
07-01-2012, 02:20 AM
this is my personal favorite live era for the band. something incredible about it that i can't place a finger on
From a sonic standpoint, the live shows were a giant wall of sound. I mean, I saw Tool about a month later that summer and the sheer volume paled in comparison to the SP show. It was one of the LOUDEST shows I have ever been to.

That aside, and as a 13 year old I failed to appreciate this fully - but the live realization and orchestration of these songs was really on another level from your typical SP rock show. There was a degree of sophistication about them musically but also from a purely sonic standpoint. Everyone was playing very cleanly, and could be heard very clearly in terms of their particular contribution to the sonic landscape. Even the bass tones were clean, crisp, and clear.

Also, the atmosphere and energy at these shows was really kind of different. Perhaps because of the tone Billy was setting forth around this time, there was no hint of adversarial energy from either the stage or the crowd - it seemed like there was a great deal of mutual support felt between the band and the fans, and everyone was feeding off that energy in uniquely intimate settings for the time (I say "for the time" since they had been playing arenas just a couple of years before.) Dare I say Billy actually seemed very genuine,vulnerable, humbled, and relateable as a human being around this time and it came through to a degree in the music itself.

The machine of god
07-01-2012, 07:23 AM
Seeing this ENTIRE show, but in particular this track are the reason I'm a Pumpkins fan.

http://youtu.be/Z5l9gOG3Rp8

I remember buying Adore after seeing it (and at the time owning no Pumpkins albums and not knowing anything beyond Tonight / 1979) and being severely at the lack of 'rock'. As many have said, the arrangements are stunning and should've been given the studio treatment in someway. But hey, perhaps the Adore re-release will provide this in the way of a well mixed live record.

And god damn, how good was Bullet on that tour, only time I've enjoyed a 7-string.

rudi
07-01-2012, 02:33 PM
this is my personal favorite live era for the band. something incredible about it that i can't place a finger on

agree

iPumpkin
07-02-2012, 01:08 AM
Hilarious >>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWwGBXV07fA#t=23m39s


AHAHAHAHHAHAA


EDIT: OK, which one of you wrote this email?

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soniclovenoize
07-02-2012, 01:19 AM
I saw this tour at the Hennepin Ave Block Party, and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen, even as an impressionable 18 year old. I've told the story countless times, but it never gets old, how Mason found one of the workers who build the stage, and we went inside the bathrooms of the City Center and bought his Crew Pass for $50 (I thought he was gonna fucking mug us). So I used that Crew Pass to get into the VIP-only section of the concert directly infront of the stage. I watched this show from literally 15 feet from Billy Corgan himself. I could pretty much see D'Arcy's nipples.

This was the infamous show were 100,000 people were crammed into this one block of downtown Minneapolis, and the convicted murderer girl escaped from prison to see the show (she was apprehended the next day). I turned my back and saw people hanging out of skyscraper windows and climbing light-posts to see the show. :eek:

Now I know that fuckhead 13 already created this, but I went back (partly because of this thread!) and am creating an "Adore Live" disc, using all the best sources to construct the album in it's entirety, played live. I'm half done (tracks 1-8)... If anyone is interested in a copy of this, let me know. And NO I am NOT using any of the "13 remasters". Since doing this, I A/Bed his masters, and he made these shows sound shittily harsh and painful. The originals had much more breadth and atmosphere to them...

Butt Pope
07-02-2012, 01:20 AM
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soniclovenoize
07-03-2012, 10:53 PM
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=43066

subzero
07-04-2012, 01:02 AM
so why exactly was the adore tour such a disaster....?

subzero
07-04-2012, 01:24 AM
i mean, all those performances own

iPumpkin
07-04-2012, 02:20 AM
so why exactly was the adore tour such a disaster....?

Those are hand picked "gems"

I went to the show at the State Theater in Detroit. It was horrible. Vocals sounded really bad. Crowd was bored as hell. People were yelling "ROCK!" during some of the droning filler songs. No energy whatsoever.

Remember this is coming off the MCIS tour so expectations were extremely high.

wounded
07-05-2012, 09:46 AM
there wasn't a lot of hair on that tour

DeadOpera
07-05-2012, 10:34 AM
so why exactly was the adore tour such a disaster....?

actually i thought it was a huge success.

subzero
07-05-2012, 11:33 AM
didn't they end it pre-maturely and start working on machina immediately?

redbull
07-05-2012, 01:47 PM
they only canceled a few south african dates that were supposed to be in late august/early september

also i would say hearing the atlanta show for the first time is the thing that cemented my love for SP

redbull
07-05-2012, 01:48 PM
Those are hand picked "gems"

I went to the show at the State Theater in Detroit. It was horrible. Vocals sounded really bad. Crowd was bored as hell. People were yelling "ROCK!" during some of the droning filler songs. No energy whatsoever.

Remember this is coming off the MCIS tour so expectations were extremely high.


i am pretty sure detroit was the worst show on that tour, except for maybe Sydney

themadcaplaughs
07-05-2012, 02:02 PM
I went to the show at the State Theater in Detroit. It was horrible. Vocals sounded really bad. Crowd was bored as hell. People were yelling "ROCK!" during some of the droning filler songs. No energy whatsoever.

Detroit is also a notoriously hostile city.

soniclovenoize
07-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Yeah, as people have alreday said, the tour itself wasn't a disaster. They OVERALL played wonderfully in a unique arrangement, and were confident as fuck to not throw in any songs pre-MCIS. I don't know about you, but that "fuck you" attitude is pretty impressive. They did what they did, and the audience had to deal with it. And I have never met anyone who was at the Minneapolis show (and there were MANY casuals) who said it was a bad show; they ALL said it was a great show, and were not shaken by the "weird different version of Bullet" or Tonight Tonight or 1979. The band also raised millions of dollars for charity, a number of Cities either gave them a key to that city or there was a day named in the band's honor. The press was really supportive of this tour too.

But what WAS a disaster were two things:
1) The public's reaction to Adore, as we all know. It could be said that the public was warmer to the tour than to the actual album
2) the proposed Adore Documentary. As some of you might recall, the entire tour was professionally filmed/directed by Jesse Ignjatovic, but due to creative differences with Corgan, it was completely scrapped. That could be considered a disaster, I suppose. Possibly Corgan can make his own edit and this can be the bonus DVD of the Adore remaster?

stumpycat
07-06-2012, 01:41 AM
But what WAS a disaster were two things:
1) The public's reaction to Adore, as we all know. It could be said that the public was warmer to the tour than to the actual album
2) the proposed Adore Documentary. As some of you might recall, the entire tour was professionally filmed/directed by Jesse Ignjatovic, but due to creative differences with Corgan, it was completely scrapped. That could be considered a disaster, I suppose. Possibly Corgan can make his own edit and this can be the bonus DVD of the Adore remaster?
1) - Yeah, Billy was pretty butt-hurt about this and jumping straight into Machina seemed reactionary. Adore seems like something that can be far better appreciated in hindsight than comparing it within any proximity of MCIS. They are two completely different animals if you are just willing to accept them as such.
2) - I don't think I realized this filming happened. The live shows really stood up well with time and wouldn't we all love to have a video copy of the shows we attended.

slunken
07-06-2012, 03:21 AM
mentioned about 9 minutes into track 8

http://archive.org/details/tsp1998-06-24.flac16

subzero
07-06-2012, 09:17 AM
But what WAS a disaster were two things:
1) The public's reaction to Adore, as we all know. It could be said that the public was warmer to the tour than to the actual album


so the public hated the album yet loved the tour? that really doesn't make sense.

soniclovenoize
07-06-2012, 10:32 AM
so the public hated the album yet loved the tour? that really doesn't make sense.

Did you bother reading my whole post?

amoergosum
07-06-2012, 01:41 PM
mentioned about 9 minutes into track 8

http://archive.org/details/tsp1998-06-24.flac16


...another source >>>

May 1999-It was announced on the Official Smashing Pumpkins Website that there would be an Adore documentary, set for release in the fall. During the Adore tour, Billy talked about a possible documentary in interviews.

Source:
http://landslide.2007.org/omnipedia/timeline99-00.htm

subzero
07-06-2012, 01:58 PM
Did you bother reading my whole post?

so they hated the songs on the album and loved the songs they hated live....that is what you are saying.

Trent_Reznor
07-06-2012, 02:06 PM
so they hated the songs on the album and loved the songs they hated live....that is what you are saying.



I guess I should have expected poor reading comprehension from a NIN fan.

soniclovenoize
07-06-2012, 02:16 PM
so they hated the songs on the album and loved the songs they hated live....that is what you are saying.

So let me get this straight: you are making the point that a studio album which was arranged & recorded one way (acoustic-electronic), and then the live tour for the album which was arranged and performed a completely different way (a live loud rock band with three percussionists and a virtuoso pianist), is the exact same thing?

Let me guess, you were 7 when Adore came out?

subzero
07-06-2012, 11:12 PM
no need to address my points, just make personal attacks!

you still haven't answered my question. oh well.

stumpycat
07-07-2012, 01:43 AM
It was like one of those things where people weren't going to even pay enough attention to let the new album bother them because the popularity of the MCIS era and hope of seeing that music performed live was still sending people to the ticket line in droves. Even if they didn't hear some of the songs they were expecting to hear - or in fact hearing the ones they expected but performed in surprising new ways - they still got a quality show.

DeusExMachina
07-07-2012, 02:10 AM
no need to address my points, just make personal attacks!

you still haven't answered my question. oh well.

He's saying that the public liked the tour because the arrangements of the songs on Adore (along with a few other ones from other albums) were a lot more interesting than the ones on the albums. Well, maybe not MORE interesting, but they were interesting compared to the album versions.

soniclovenoize
07-08-2012, 01:24 AM
Oh BTW here is that Adore Live compilation I made.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tyba99uji50a6f4

Again, this is a reconstruction of the Adore album performed live from that tour, sequenced and crossfaded to appear as a continuous performance of the album in it's entirety. I tried to use the very best performances of the best soundquality.

NO THIRT13N REMASTERS WERE USED IN THE MAKING OF THIS COMPILATION and it is presumably different than his version.

amoergosum
09-23-2012, 11:29 AM
Full show:

SMASHING PUMPKINS - Bilbao, Spain - Basque - Museum Guggenheim 1998-05-21

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whywontyoulistn
09-23-2012, 11:32 AM
Alberto thread.

slunken
09-23-2012, 02:55 PM
Oh BTW here is that Adore Live compilation I made.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tyba99uji50a6f4

Again, this is a reconstruction of the Adore album performed live from that tour, sequenced and crossfaded to appear as a continuous performance of the album in it's entirety. I tried to use the very best performances of the best soundquality.

NO THIRT13N REMASTERS WERE USED IN THE MAKING OF THIS COMPILATION and it is presumably different than his version.


this has been my go-to sp listening for the past couple of months. do one for machinas.

pavementtune
10-27-2012, 07:45 PM
Does anyone have a different/better audio recording and the "missing" video footage of that show? A complete audio is up, but only half of it with video. :(


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redbull
10-28-2012, 01:16 AM
full video doesn't circulate and is most likely sitting MTV's vaults

soniclovenoize
10-28-2012, 01:17 AM
this has been my go-to sp listening for the past couple of months. do one for machinas.

Oh slunky I missed this.

If you want I could try... I honestly thought the Machina Tour was straight up shit (unlike the Adore Tour which was chicken fried golden), but I guess if it's meant to be an alternative to the studio album, I could do it.

Anyone else interested?

redbull
10-28-2012, 01:22 AM
yeah. i really really like machina songs live. a lot.

i think you should consider these versions:

raindrops and sunshowers - 2000-10-19
i of the mourning - 2000-05-24
glass and the ghost children - 2000-11-29 OR 2000-05-23
blue skies bring tears - 2000-10-27

soniclovenoize
10-28-2012, 01:28 AM
yeah. i really really like machina songs live. a lot.

i think you should consider these versions:

raindrops and sunshowers - 2000-10-19
i of the mourning - 2000-05-24
glass and the ghost children - 2000-11-29 OR 2000-05-23
blue skies bring tears - 2000-10-27

ah OK thanks, I'll do it once I'm done making these 1970s Beatles albums. Can probably start next week or something.

Luke de Spa
10-28-2012, 05:26 AM
ADORE TOUR

or

ATORE

????

Luke de Spa
10-28-2012, 05:26 AM
more like

A TOUR, DOUR

D.
10-28-2012, 05:48 AM
i remember when i first heard the tittle of the album, through someone or something, and i thought it was going to be "A Door".

reprise85
10-28-2012, 05:51 AM
i remember some article calling it 'a bore'

D.
10-28-2012, 05:57 AM
lol@ a bore

bu srsly, i remember sometime in either 97 or early 98 sending off something to the address in the siamese dream booklet and they sent me a postcard back that announced the album but the front of the postcard was green and it had the sp heart in a jar,

god i wish i still had it because i've ever seen it or heard it mentioned ever.

Astur
10-28-2012, 07:56 AM
i remember some article calling it 'a bore'

I think it was Manson who said that in some interview, when asked about the new SP album

Raskolnikov
10-28-2012, 10:18 AM
god i wish i still had it because i've ever seen it or heard it mentioned ever.

Very interesting... and yeah, haven't ever heard of/seen that anywhere.

vajohna
10-28-2012, 10:20 AM
I think it was Manson who said that in some interview, when asked about the new SP album

This is hilarious now that Manson basically opens up for Rob Zombie at 2,000 capacity venues now.

soniclovenoize
10-30-2012, 10:03 AM
yeah. i really really like machina songs live. a lot.

i think you should consider these versions:

raindrops and sunshowers - 2000-10-19
i of the mourning - 2000-05-24
glass and the ghost children - 2000-11-29 OR 2000-05-23
blue skies bring tears - 2000-10-27

Generally, I'd want this comp to be all SBD or FM or TV sourced, not AUD.

Is there even a Wound, With Every Light, Imploding and Crying Tree that's better than an AUD?

slunken
10-30-2012, 05:11 PM
Generally, I'd want this comp to be all SBD or FM or TV sourced, not AUD.


this is important. there's more than enough material floating around in sbd or fm or tv. i attempted this once. while there are some songs that would be "missing" if you consider both machinas its still a lot of songs and the few missing could be aud sourced

i like the 2000-09-18 sporthalle version of BSBT the best i think even better than the metro metal version that was on the sacred and profane comp.

slunken
10-30-2012, 05:13 PM
i think if there is a god from that show is the only electric guitar version too (at least in good quality)

slunken
10-30-2012, 05:17 PM
With Every Light,

http://archive.org/details/tsp2000-05-06.flac16 FM SOURCE

Venom
10-30-2012, 05:45 PM
Oh BTW here is that Adore Live compilation I made.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tyba99uji50a6f4

Again, this is a reconstruction of the Adore album performed live from that tour, sequenced and crossfaded to appear as a continuous performance of the album in it's entirety. I tried to use the very best performances of the best soundquality.

NO THIRT13N REMASTERS WERE USED IN THE MAKING OF THIS COMPILATION and it is presumably different than his version.

Just noticed this, wow, nice! If you ever make a lossless version of this live compilation, consider me VERY interested! We need more guys like you (and not Thirt13n) releasing live versions of Gish, SD, MCIS, Adore and Machina. :)

EDIT: Fuck yeah, it's lossless on ZOMB. You rock dude!

redbull
10-30-2012, 06:04 PM
Generally, I'd want this comp to be all SBD or FM or TV sourced, not AUD.

Is there even a Wound, With Every Light, Imploding and Crying Tree that's better than an AUD?

Wound - 1999-12-21, 2000-03-10
With Every Light - 2000-05-06, 2000-08-24
Mercury Tree doesn't have any, but 2000-01-15 and 2000-02-06 are outstanding audience recordings

soniclovenoize
10-31-2012, 07:05 PM
Alright, working on this now...

slunken
11-01-2012, 12:34 PM
woot

soniclovenoize
11-01-2012, 01:11 PM
Buuuuuutttttttt....

If anyone has a lead on the VHS-source of Storytellers and the VHS-source of 12/21/99--NOT the AUD or AUD matrix---that would make this project go much much faster (that is my only hangup, I literally spent last night working on this, as well as handing out Halloween candy, and everything else is done).

Morlock
11-16-2012, 04:34 AM
We went to the same concert. It was magical. Unfortunately we had to get some distance from the stage after Billy announced that he was going to rock us like a hurricane (Scorpions reference) and the band started playing "Ava Adore". Too many people were climbing over the waist-high barrier and it became too much for me, my then-girlfirend and a friend.

EDIT: Speaking of wasted! I drove from Düsseldorf to Hamburg that day (four hour drive), spent hours in Hamburg, watched the entire concert and drove back the same day. I was so tired it was dangerous. Never again.

pavementtune
12-01-2012, 12:54 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/w8nUCTaVsfU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pavementtune
12-15-2012, 08:44 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Bp0I-XbflTc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

17songs
12-15-2012, 11:02 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Bp0I-XbflTc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

my favorite adore show, hands down. the zomb has the complete audio of this show, which is actually almost twice as long as the televised broadcast.

slunken
12-16-2012, 12:46 AM
i bought a vhs copy of that show from a mom and pop show while i was away at "boys state" that mock government farce. i paid for it with stolen money and had to walk over 3 miles to get to the store. we weren't really supposed to leave the grounds...

this would have been in '99

slunken
12-16-2012, 12:47 AM
still have the tape btw :nuke:

slunken
12-16-2012, 12:49 AM
it was a hard sell between that show and one of the early 96 double-set shows

17songs
12-16-2012, 10:23 AM
what cements it as my favorite is the golden performance of blank page. just the best.

redbull
12-17-2012, 01:38 AM
what cements it as my favorite is the golden performance of blank page. just the best.

that's actually the first time they played it.

the atlanta blank page is really, really, really fucking good too

pavementtune
01-08-2013, 08:40 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/P867rfUFg7I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

amoergosum
01-25-2013, 01:01 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B1BWI1IM_TI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Funbags
01-25-2013, 08:27 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B1BWI1IM_TI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Great footage :cool:

I like D'arcy's no eyebrows stage.

Slurpee
01-25-2013, 09:10 PM
NOOOOOOOW I'M NAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD

amoergosum
06-23-2013, 05:01 PM
Full set >>>

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/E-QbAGkOsuw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Copperpot5
06-28-2013, 12:50 PM
Are there any April '99 soundboard recordings in circulation?

Copperpot5
06-28-2013, 01:39 PM
.

amoergosum
07-21-2013, 11:44 AM
<iframe width="480" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/BChqHxRKrbI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

JRock
07-21-2013, 08:45 PM
i agree. it was great to watch this interview and just hear james and d'arcy speak. great interview. a lost gem.

amoergosum
08-01-2013, 06:31 AM
Love it >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el6KbG0Pb2I&feature=youtu.be&t=47m18s

amoergosum
12-17-2014, 02:32 PM
"Smashing Pumpkins LIVE Much Music 1998 _Complete show"
>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tqjcy-VYKs