View Full Version : has billy slept with all his bass players?


Rumpkin
06-17-2012, 03:23 PM
what does everyone think?

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 03:31 PM
i actually think so. the lustre must have deen existent for MADM, Reyes, and Nicole at some point, wouldnt you say?

probably had sex with ol' Darcy the night they met at that show

reprise85
06-17-2012, 03:32 PM
what about tulin?

i think he probably has boned some of them

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 03:34 PM
^ creepy

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 03:34 PM
I honestly don't think so.

I believe the reason Corgan continually vies for female bass players is some subconscious desire for a sister, probably a combination of mommy issues and wanting to perpetuate his role as a caretaker (for his brother). I truly believes he sees D'Arcy/Melissa/Paz/Ginger/Nicole as "The Spiritual Sister" in some flakey cosmic way, if you know what I mean.

PS:
Melissa > Ginger > Paz > Nicole > D'Arcy

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 03:36 PM
didnt he mention that himself and Paz had wild sex on the tour bus, which eventually annoyed everybody so much

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 03:38 PM
didnt he mention that himself and Paz had wild sex on the tour bus, which eventually annoyed everybody so much

No I believe it was a different band member. I really want to say that Pajo fucked Paz, and Sweeny fucked Bjorn's wife, two factors that brought upon the end of Zwan.

I was literally just thinking about this 30 minutes ago while getting chicken from the freezer, because I was listening to MSotS on the way home from the store today. Weird...

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 03:38 PM
i was under the impression that she fucked everybody in the band? my mistake then

reprise85
06-17-2012, 03:40 PM
so much drama

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 03:41 PM
i was under the impression that she fucked everybody in the band? my mistake then

Rule #1 is never fuck a band member. I think with Corgan's obsession with being a professional musician, he'd follow that to a T. But who knows.

Trotskilicious
06-17-2012, 03:43 PM
i kind of think the bill is aesexual

Trotskilicious
06-17-2012, 03:45 PM
i mean think about it guys are there any songs of frank and obvious sexual connotation?

out of the hundreds of songs in his catalog.

i think that says something

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 03:47 PM
i mean think about it guys are there any songs of frank and obvious sexual connotation?

out of the hundreds of songs in his catalog.

i think that says something

You mean like LedZep-esque machismo lyrics?

Trotskilicious
06-17-2012, 03:48 PM
not at all

for example, NMH is obsessed with sex

Trotskilicious
06-17-2012, 03:49 PM
you could perhaps say bodies has a sexual connotation and it's <i>negative</I> so that kind of underscores my point

also no lil billy's, no long term relationships...

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 03:50 PM
not at all

for example, NMH is obsessed with sex

You mean specific biological lyrics concerning fetuses and semen?

Yeah I don't think Corgan has written anything like that, without seeming like he's hanging on the dick of In Utero-era Cobain.

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 03:52 PM
you could perhaps say bodies has a sexual connotation and it's <i>negative</I> so that kind of underscores my point

also no lil billy's, no long term relationships...

But you're saying any sort of Corgan "love" song is ambiguous in it's gender assignments, right? As in Galapogos could be about Gooch or maybe even Bugg Superstar?

Trotskilicious
06-17-2012, 03:52 PM
boy you can be really dense sometimes

but that second point is bang on, i didn't think of that

Trotskilicious
06-17-2012, 03:53 PM
heterosexual illiterate morrissey is all i'm saying

reprise85
06-17-2012, 03:55 PM
courtney love used to talk about how he was amazing in bed. but that was a while ago i guess. wasn't he a habitual cheater in the 90s?

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 04:04 PM
threads affirmed that bill has never had sex

aomb1979
06-17-2012, 04:08 PM
Pug and STRTJ both have lyrics that could be considered sexual

Future Boy
06-17-2012, 04:08 PM
I always got the impression that he wanted to fuck Paz, but she went with Pajo and while fucking bill wouldve been ok, doing pajo was immoral.

Ball Sack Face
06-17-2012, 04:16 PM
I thought Pajo had sex with Bugg Superstarr? Confirm/deny?

TheAeroplane
06-17-2012, 04:43 PM
No I believe it was a different band member. I really want to say that Pajo fucked Paz, and Sweeny fucked Bjorn's wife, two factors that brought upon the end of Zwan.

Dude, don't start rumors here. Pajo was actually blowing Matt while Paz was fingering Pajo's ass with Jimmy's dick working her mouth, all Billy did was jerk himself off while watching.

BurtSampson
06-17-2012, 04:54 PM
the thought of Billy having sex with anyone is hilarious, especially if he spoons with them like in that picture of him curled up naked like a space fetus

imploding b0lly
06-17-2012, 05:17 PM
He tried fucking D'Arcy but, lo and behold, she just wasn't good enough. So he kicked her out and had Butch and Jimmy jerk him off instead. (The real reason Jimmy went on all those benders was to cope with the shame).

True story!!!

Shallowed
06-17-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm sure I read an anecdote in his confessions diaryy blog thing about fucking D'arcy in the Gish or pre-Gish era.

Monet LSD
06-17-2012, 05:38 PM
fucking D'arcy in the Preggish Area.

fixed

Catherine Wheel
06-17-2012, 06:26 PM
It seems like there is a lot more evidence that James might be asexual than Billy. I don't know why that never occurred to me before.

scottytheoneand
06-17-2012, 06:44 PM
i kind of think the bill is aesexual

people call themselves asexual when they're actually gay but don't want to admit it to themselves

scottytheoneand
06-17-2012, 06:46 PM
cause of homophobia

scottytheoneand
06-17-2012, 06:46 PM
I mean... like.. just put a dick in your mouth and be honest with yourself.

stumpycat
06-17-2012, 09:59 PM
people call themselves asexual when they're actually gay but don't want to admit it to themselves

I don't think that's necessarily the case. It's more about simply not having any type of strong sexual desire and/or definitive proclivity. I'd say that I would fall into that category myself. People ask me if I'm lesbian all the time and honestly it's difficult to explain that no, I don't really fantasize about girls "in that way" and never really have but that by the same token I'm not exactly yearning to have an explicitly sexual relationship with a male, either. I do desire to have close, intimate, affectionate, and deeply caring relationships with others though I do not associate that with the need or desire for sex (which I don't seem to particularly care about one way or another.) For the most part I just look at people as people, some of whom I grow incredibly fond of and would love to have an enduring and close relationship with. In the thread that devolved into a Morrissey discussion Trots appeared to have similar sentiments regarding frequent lack of interest regarding sex despite hetero identification. If you're not strongly gendered it's hard to find a comfortable place for yourself in a hypersexualized, hyper-feminine and hyper-masculine world. I figure that I'd fit better into some northwestern European society than I do in America.

reprise85
06-17-2012, 10:03 PM
I feel that way too. Sex just isn't important to me. I can find either sex attractive - sexually, intellectually, emotionally, etc - but it doesn't really have a lot to do with actually wanting to have sex with them. Intimacy definitely /= sex.

I can definitely relate to just seeing "people as people"

stumpycat
06-17-2012, 10:07 PM
Awesome. Let's all start a club!

Also, back on topic: Billy seems to have hetero proclivities although his gender boundaries may be on the looser side than most men. He seems like he may be rather insecure about that?

soniclovenoize
06-17-2012, 10:22 PM
Wow, to each his own but I really need to get laid immediately.

Any of you Netphorian ladies wanna gimme a call... http://serve.mysmiley.net/evilgrin/evilgrin0010.gif

Shallowed
06-17-2012, 10:27 PM
I didn't know stumpycat was a lady. Unless there's such a thing as a male lesbian.

reprise85
06-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Awesome. Let's all start a club!

Also, back on topic: Billy seems to have hetero proclivities although his gender boundaries may be on the looser side than most men. He seems like he may be rather insecure about that?

well, he wears dresses and makeup and stuff (or used to), but then he also makes homophobic and transphobic remarks sometimes soooo i dunno

i feel like he embraces it for the most part. he also wrote a lot of lovey-dovey "feminine" songs. he joked about jimmy being his "life partner" (wink wink), almost like playfully daring people to think what they will

Starla
06-18-2012, 07:44 AM
I wonder what Billy sounds like when he has an orgasm. Maybe he screams the way he does on xyu.

scottytheoneand
06-18-2012, 07:45 AM
:erm:

Starla
06-18-2012, 07:55 AM
He probably makes that face too lol

samuel redman
06-18-2012, 08:15 AM
line me up for that

soniclovenoize
06-18-2012, 08:28 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lylk8mVYHx1qgq0l1.jpg

reprise85
06-18-2012, 08:38 AM
that is my favorite picture from that booklet. wish i still had it

Rairun
06-18-2012, 08:45 AM
If I'm not mistaken, Pajo slept with the producer's girlfriend - which happened to be Linda Strawberry. I think that's been mentioned here on netphoria, plus I'm pretty sure I remember an affectionate message she wrote on his myspace wall after Zwan broke up (saying she thought of her time with him fondly or something like that). It's funny because that makes him "immoral", whereas Linda Strawberry gets to be Billy's minion. That's not her fault, obviously, just Billy's double standards.

Also, I have no idea who Paz was involved with. She went on a tour with Pajo after Zwan broke up, but that doesn't mean it was him.

ghost-mutt
06-18-2012, 08:50 AM
james iha played bass on machina

Trotskilicious
06-18-2012, 10:03 AM
scott i thought you were just a well-meaning tool but it turns out you're a rather repulsive douchebag

imploding b0lly
06-18-2012, 05:49 PM
Don't forget Pajo from the early Zwan days..........and whoever played bass in The Marked.

But really Billy does most of his own bass playing. So he fucks himself a lot. Which makes sense because he's so narcissistic.

fluxequalsrad
06-18-2012, 06:30 PM
Is Paz doing anything musically nowadays? She was the coolest/best BC bass playa.

soniclovenoize
06-18-2012, 09:37 PM
Yeah she's in some local Chicago band... She looks like shit.

BlissedandGone2
06-18-2012, 10:05 PM
spilled milk

Monet LSD
06-19-2012, 12:17 AM
Corgan also says stuff like this:


"I’ve actually met the Iron Sheik, which is fucking bizarre. Actually, the Iron Sheik twittered me the other day, which is even more bizarre. He’s on Twitter; he’s unbelievable.

"But he’s not wrestling anymore? He’s too old for that...

"He does personal appearances and comedy appearances; but you should read his Twitter. He literally writes, “I fuck Hulk Hogan in the ass.” (we both laugh)" :erm: :erm: :erm:


http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/06/interview-billy-corgan-of-smashing-pumpkins/

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 04:12 AM
She looks like shit.

that's the most important thing

Rumpkin
06-19-2012, 01:51 PM
hah, Billy actually answered this question today on Howard Stern right at the end of the interview! quote: "I've never actually had any romantic relations with any female bass player in my band". weird, must have been reading netphoria. not sure i believe him though, he laughed after he said it as if he was lying.

http://www.crestfallen.com/2012/06/18/billy-corgan-interviews-and-oceania-reviews/

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 01:54 PM
seriously you guys care if he reads this

The Pump King
06-19-2012, 01:55 PM
I can definitely relate to just seeing "people as people"

Never heard a man say that in my entire life. Never. Always female bisexuals.

amoergosum
06-19-2012, 01:58 PM
weird, must have been reading netphoria.

>>>

Billy Corgan:
You know, the fan sites have been really brutal, on particularly Mike...

Source:
http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/06/interview-billy-corgan-of-smashing-pumpkins/

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 02:00 PM
Never heard a man say that in my entire life.

so what

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 02:00 PM
you know what i've also never heard a man say?

"I like to be tied up and whipped by a prostitute wearing a rubber catsuit."

reprise85
06-19-2012, 02:01 PM
Never heard a man say that in my entire life. Never. Always female bisexuals.

yeah that's me

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 02:01 PM
LABEL'D

reprise85
06-19-2012, 02:02 PM
stereotypical female bisexual/asexual?

reprise85
06-19-2012, 02:04 PM
you know what i've also never heard a man say?

"I like to be tied up and whipped by a prostitute wearing a rubber catsuit."

this is a good point

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 02:06 PM
always remember to make sure your sexual orientation is defined by other people

if you're a male aesexual you're actually a faggot that doesn't want to put a dick in his mouth because homophobia. so start suckin some dicks, faggot.

if you're a woman that sees people as people (whatever that means lol) you're either scared of intimacy, ugly and trying to justify it, or a lesbian.

cultural forces remind me daily that sex is the most important thing in the universe and if you're not having it you're fat, ugly, insecure, stuck up, molested, crazy, gay or all of the above

reprise85
06-19-2012, 02:11 PM
it really does boggle my mind how important it seems to most other people

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 02:17 PM
but it's the best!!!!

reprise85
06-19-2012, 02:19 PM
maybe it's survival of the fittest telling us not to have children or something

Trotskilicious
06-19-2012, 02:20 PM
survival of the fittest will lead to the mass extinction of the human race

Butt Pope
11-19-2014, 08:24 AM
Look out, guy from the Killers.

lionheart0
11-19-2014, 08:39 AM
Don't be an ass.

Ram27
11-19-2014, 08:50 AM
lol

Funbags
11-19-2014, 08:50 AM
i kind of think the bill is aesexual

Yeah, I don't think about Bill's loins n' groins.

thedeadofnight
11-19-2014, 09:00 AM
Billy is definitely homophobic (2:08)

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null123
11-19-2014, 09:09 AM
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/3f/c8/f03fc873ad99a079113458b7d005e136.jpg

scottytheoneand
11-19-2014, 11:18 AM
was Samuel Redman banned?

Grox
11-19-2014, 12:29 PM
i mean think about it guys are there any songs of frank and obvious sexual connotation?

out of the hundreds of songs in his catalog.

i think that says something

You must be fucking kidding me. "X.Y.U." ?

Order 66
11-19-2014, 12:34 PM
i kind of had a thing for yelena

Poots
11-19-2014, 03:04 PM
I sure hope Billy has gotten some sticky from his bass players. Music and sex are one in the same. Just ask Fleetwood Mac.

Araneae
11-19-2014, 03:13 PM
i kind of had a thing for yelena

Ha, so did I. She's even better looking in person. I remember one time I was staring at her before a zwan show (she was talking to Billy) and she caught my gaze and tilted her head out towards me. I felt like such an ass.

dreams of glass
11-19-2014, 03:18 PM
i mean think about it guys are there any songs of frank and obvious sexual connotation?

out of the hundreds of songs in his catalog.

i think that says something

Off the top of my head..

How I loved your body
Baby

I know there are others too, just can't think of em now.

Araneae
11-19-2014, 03:21 PM
There's Zwan's Spilled Milk.

now we jack off
now you suck in
now you watch me
and everyone wins

reckless darling don't you know
that what i want is to spill my milk wherever i go
i'm not bad, i'm so good
i'll fuck you raw, just like a good choirboy should
i'm not kidding, watch and see
i'll sink to the bottom and let you pee on me

now we fuck off
as we jack in
and what's the cost
here's a million bucks

pavementtune
11-19-2014, 03:33 PM
she wants clean sheets and fresh flowers
her dental shots and the hong kong glue

Elphenor
11-19-2014, 03:47 PM
IN YOU I FEEL SO PRETTY
IN YOU I CRASH CARS

INSIDE
WHERE IT'S WARM
WRAP MYSELF IN YOU

Elphenor
11-19-2014, 03:49 PM
Incidentally, those are also the best adore songs.

All the Adore songs should have been Sexual

pavementtune
11-19-2014, 03:53 PM
All the Adore songs should have been Sexual

especially For Martha, right

Mals Marola
11-19-2014, 04:02 PM
Off the top of my head..

How I loved your body
Baby

I know there are others too, just can't think of em now.

this is gonna be like the time someone said "i can't think of a single time billy's sang without a guitar in hand..." then like 20 videos were posted within the next day of exactly that

Poots
11-19-2014, 08:43 PM
... and then he ends up just masturbating himself, and it's really come between us... SILVERFUCK

Trotskilicious
11-19-2014, 09:26 PM
You must be fucking kidding me. "X.Y.U." ?

:erm:

juliana
11-19-2014, 10:43 PM
Pug is about sex.

Plus bill is likes his porn stars and trashy women.
I was under the impression Bill is a hetero slut bag with stds.

Poots
11-19-2014, 10:48 PM
I imagine he's just as horny as the rest of us.

Ram27
11-19-2014, 11:22 PM
In case you were wondering, I'd rather sleep with

D'arcy
Nicole
Melissa
Ginger


Anyone whose list is not in this order is wrong

null123
11-19-2014, 11:23 PM
Definitely don't get asexual vibes from billy. Well maybe nowadays but he's getting on in years

null123
11-19-2014, 11:26 PM
Pug is about sex.

Plus bill is likes his porn stars and trashy women.
I was under the impression Bill is a hetero slut bag with stds.

His memoirs suggest he was promiscuous in a sort of self-destructive way in his younger years

Araneae
11-19-2014, 11:31 PM
Definitely in his younger years, but there is something about him over the past couple of years that seems asexual. Never used to get that vibe from him.

null123
11-19-2014, 11:34 PM
He's looking very estrogenic

Araneae
11-19-2014, 11:40 PM
I made a dumb joke about him going through andropause a little while back, but he really is starting to look increasingly estrogenic.

Grox
11-20-2014, 01:13 AM
maybe it's because he misses his mom