View Full Version : Wow, live has gone downhill...


meangreensp
06-17-2012, 01:40 AM
So, I was listening to Z for shits to compare with Oceania.

Oceania is a better album than Z but Z had such a sick live tour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nELrBrNCX94

What happened to this dude's passion and anger? He used to really feel the songs.

I saw the Pumpkins in 98, 2007, 08 on the clusterfuck tour and last year and, yeah, no.

This was pretty close to their heyday in the 90s in this video. Same kind of passion.

It's sad when the Zeitgeist days were better.

Now they're barely a fucking rock band live. Especially if they play Oceania the whole way through.

fake plastic
06-17-2012, 02:16 AM
Jimmy was their battery

D.
06-17-2012, 02:29 AM
How long til we band meangreensp? I'm an admin and I'm asking this.

Ball Sack Face
06-17-2012, 03:04 AM
Ban him and me together, please.

iPumpkin
06-17-2012, 03:10 AM
Thought this was a thread about the band Live.

amoergosum
06-17-2012, 05:30 AM
This is how you play 1979 when you DON'T want it to groove
(Metro show, 6/14/2012).

And what's with the same awful fill at 1:51, 2:34, 2:48, 4:12 and a crash on the '1
every 2 bars (chorus) ?

...his timing is all over the place.

>>>

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Matt Walker didn't have any problems whatsoever making it groove >>>


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TuralyonW3
06-17-2012, 05:44 AM
Live really started to go downhill after the distance from here with birds of pray

Shallowed
06-17-2012, 07:14 AM
Live has generally gone downhill for me since leaving high school.

Shallowed
06-17-2012, 07:15 AM
Life*

scottytheoneand
06-17-2012, 07:42 AM
How long til we band meangreensp? I'm an admin and I'm asking this.

I will pay $50 via paypal for this

amoergosum
06-17-2012, 07:45 AM
Life*


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themadcaplaughs
06-17-2012, 08:52 AM
Jimmy was their battery

He really was. No matter how many interviews Billy does saying that he and Jimmy were not getting along during his two years in the reformed band, the videos prove he pushed Billy to a level of greatness as a performer.

amoergosum
06-17-2012, 09:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nELrBrNCX94


Let's embed this properly >>>

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amoergosum
06-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Oceania is a better album than Z

I don't agree at all. Zeitgeist is the better album in my book.
One thing I hate about it though is the mastering. It has a poor
dynamic range (Loudness War), so it's hard to listen to the CD....wish they would offer
a remastered version with a dynamic range of around DR11.

New Art Rioter
06-17-2012, 09:50 AM
Bit of a trade off situation I suppose, at least the studio material is better now

meangreensp
06-17-2012, 12:01 PM
It had to have been Jimmy. He just felt the songs and they sounded better. Although, Jimmy was on the 20th show...yeah not so much.

subzero
06-17-2012, 12:06 PM
ugh. those fills in 1979 are so bad.

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 12:12 PM
wow the end of the MCIS video of 1979 was one of the best live versions ive ever hear

samuel redman
06-17-2012, 12:29 PM
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shows from 2007-2008 might not have been amazing, but they were still listenable. wonder why



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i like this version of IOTM. not sure what Bill is saying half the time however

amoergosum
06-17-2012, 01:05 PM
shows from 2007-2008 might not have been amazing, but they were still listenable. wonder why


...great version of Heavy Metal Machine >>>

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krackhead
06-17-2012, 01:52 PM
Birds of Prey > Oceania

krackhead
06-17-2012, 09:21 PM
http://s02.radikal.ru/i175/1004/be/e8d38da06112.jpg

subzero
06-17-2012, 10:00 PM
ed owns

Future Boy
06-17-2012, 10:04 PM
I will pay $50 via paypal for this

future_boy@gmail.com

ill pm D confirmation once its received

RenewRevive
06-18-2012, 05:59 PM
show last Nov was much better than '08 which was a big trainwreck. so no, i don't agree with you, mr OP.

killtrocity
06-18-2012, 09:08 PM
zeitgeist did have a sick live tour, it goes without saying that a large part of this is due to Jimmy. I didn't even care to see "SP" at the metro this past week, and it's like 30 mins away. There are some really good songs on oceania, but I don't need to see mike douchebag butchering the classics.

sjpaterra
06-18-2012, 10:07 PM
zeitgeist did have a sick live tour, it goes without saying that a large part of this is due to Jimmy. I didn't even care to see "SP" at the metro this past week, and it's like 30 mins away. There are some really good songs on oceania, but I don't need to see mike douchebag butchering the classics.

aww, leave the poor kid alone, he only knows about 3 or 4 fills... and he's been fucking using them since astral planes.... at least jimmy could create new material to play that was unique for each song... he played drums for the songs not during the songs...