View Full Version : What the fuck happened to the last section of Oceania?


sniffingchimp
06-12-2012, 02:22 PM
I actually thought this song was great live but what happened to that solo in the last section? It sounds totally off key and just wrong (the first couple of notes anyhow)...

It's just bothering me. Sounds fucking awful.

chucklescrotum
06-12-2012, 02:34 PM
If Billy would have just stopped production at 5 minutes (5:00) then the song would be pretty sweet.. but the other half of it sucks balls.

DaveKShape
06-12-2012, 02:37 PM
the messed-up sounding solo was the only thing in the whole album which actually surprised me and made me want to listen.

soniclovenoize
06-12-2012, 03:20 PM
If you thought that solo was out-of-tune, then there's a SHIT TON of great music you'd hate.

sniffingchimp
06-12-2012, 04:08 PM
Well, hopefully I made it clear - it's the solo/riff immediately after "face to face, we breathe", the first note of it just ruins it. Sounds off key. I'm no musician, but it's jarring.

Sounded great live, different and worked. Think he ruined it in the studio.

soniclovenoize
06-12-2012, 04:22 PM
It's just an effect... Kinda sounds like the solo was played a few octaves lower, then he pitchshifted it back up with a Whammy Pedal, so it has this slight imperfect variance from the imperfectness of the pedal itself. Sounds cool to me.

sniffingchimp
06-12-2012, 04:28 PM
It's just an effect... Kinda sounds like the solo was played a few octaves lower, then he pitchshifted it back up with a Whammy Pedal, so it has this slight imperfect variance from the imperfectness of the pedal itself. Sounds cool to me.

Thanks for the explanation - just unfortunately sounds totally off to me.

Uneducated ears ;)

slunken
06-12-2012, 04:28 PM
let's just talk about how the editing is a complete joke like are they seriously serious

sniffingchimp
06-12-2012, 04:31 PM
Agreed - the fade in from the acoustic sounds pretty odd too.

soniclovenoize
06-12-2012, 04:31 PM
let's just talk about how the editing is a complete joke like are they seriously serious

Um, I'm like a SMiLE fanatic so I thought the inappropriate edits were great. Obvious song fragments stuck together to make one long suite make me hard.

Sorry, I thought this was one of the best tracks on the record, one of the better things he's done all decade.

The only thing fucked up was the fade out of the climax of the song. That's just retarded, and once again, he shits on the one true moment of intrigue.

slunken
06-12-2012, 04:34 PM
um like okay

sniffingchimp
06-12-2012, 04:35 PM
Um, I'm like a SMiLE fanatic so I thought the inappropriate edits were great. Obvious song fragments stuck together to make one long suite make me hard.

Sorry, I thought this was one of the best tracks on the record, one of the better things he's done all decade.

The only thing fucked up was the fade out of the climax of the song. That's just retarded, and once again, he shits on the one true moment of intrigue.

I thought this was great live, and would agree one of the best things he done a long time.

Something about the recorded version just feels off, doesn't segue into eachother well and ... I've already talked about the solo.

Pity that.

samuel redman
06-12-2012, 04:39 PM
who's the male singer singing in the background in this? kerry brown? i don't like that

reprise85
06-12-2012, 06:18 PM
it's byrne isn't it

Ihaguitar
06-12-2012, 06:25 PM
it's byrne isn't it

It would be wouldnt it.

SlingeroGuitaro
06-12-2012, 06:27 PM
it is isn't it

djzap
06-12-2012, 07:04 PM
it is yes. that or jeff and mike?

emotionalfriend
06-12-2012, 08:02 PM
Um, I'm like a SMiLE fanatic so I thought the inappropriate edits were great. Obvious song fragments stuck together to make one long suite make me hard.

Sorry, I thought this was one of the best tracks on the record, one of the better things he's done all decade.

The only thing fucked up was the fade out of the climax of the song. That's just retarded, and once again, he shits on the one true moment of intrigue.

um, yes. All of this.

meangreensp
06-12-2012, 08:06 PM
If Oceania had a proper ending and a true wow moment the album would've been a lot better. There's no jaw dropping, omfg heavy moment like every SP album has. This song has no emotional climax, the point of a 9 minute epic. But the way it is, it's foreplay with a playboy bunny but no sex.

Kahlo
06-13-2012, 09:36 AM
I do like Oceania, even though it is incredibly disjointed. I can also appreciate the little reference to Suspiria in the middle, although it reminds me of JC and his absence from this track :(

Order 66
08-23-2014, 03:16 PM
it's a weird song, as for the "epic" songs go. i thought it was kinda neat though

T&T
08-23-2014, 04:58 PM
the 'last section of Oach' that bothers me are tracks 10-13. I'm never even going to give them a 2nd chance.
I really like the middle 4 songs though. One Diamond - Pale Horse. Great 4 song sequence.

chrisothoulo
08-25-2014, 10:06 PM
that last part of the song is the best part!

Elphenor
08-25-2014, 11:20 PM
The live version is way better but what else is new

Bread Regal
08-27-2014, 12:42 AM
not sure, never made it that far