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redbreegull
10-26-2011, 10:47 PM
to find a picture of a girl you know?


Well believe me, my jaw just about hit the floor when I was surfing /b/ earlier today and this actually happened to me, no fucking joke. I assume most of you are familiar with those pictures in which nudes of a girl are slapped over a shot of her facebook, often including her name and other info. The female in question is the best friend of a friend's ex-girlfriend. I only met her once or twice (it was a long time ago), but what are the odds, huh?

Banana
10-26-2011, 10:49 PM
And this thread doesn't have the pictures why?


1 star incoming.

Dogfighter28
10-26-2011, 10:49 PM
i know this girl

http://www.godsgirls.com/girls/Delorean

agenda suicide
10-26-2011, 10:55 PM
i know this girl

http://www.godsgirls.com/girls/Delorean

Finding someone on godgirls doesn't count. I knew a girl on there that now does straight up porn.

Dogfighter28
10-26-2011, 10:57 PM
when her tits are that big it counts for something

agenda suicide
10-26-2011, 10:59 PM
Meh.

PkPhuoko
10-26-2011, 11:01 PM
There are about a dozen folks that went to AI that Ihaman and I went to that were on some amateur sites. One of the dudes did the UI for a few DVD production companies and i guess got people on them

nothing like seeing a classmate getting double vag'd!

rottenugly
10-26-2011, 11:01 PM
RULES ONE AND TWO.

redbreegull
10-26-2011, 11:01 PM
I am considering posting the pics minus the fb info. I do feel kind of strange about it though. Although it is morally hypocritical since amateur nudes are pretty much my favorite thing to look at, I feel strange helping to spread photos of this girl who probably has no idea they are now available all over the world for masturbatory consumption.

also just realized I spelled amateur wrong in the thread title.

Banana
10-26-2011, 11:02 PM
Not for masturbatory consumption, for science. Post them for science.

agenda suicide
10-26-2011, 11:03 PM
I am considering posting the pics minus the fb info. I do feel kind of strange about it though. Although it is morally hypocritical since amateur nudes are pretty much my favorite thing to look at, I feel strange helping to spread photos of this girl who probably has no idea they are now available all over the world for masturbatory consumption.

Yeah its one thing to knowingly pose for companies like suicide girls, gods girls etc. It's another when some dude puts nudes you sent him online. Fucked up.

redbreegull
10-26-2011, 11:11 PM
she is really hot though and has huge tits

slunken
10-26-2011, 11:20 PM
i was best friends with a cam girl before she got into camming. this was like 2002. i used to troll her cam-page sometimes but she never got pissed at me for driving customers away. i think some of them liked it in the fact that i was another male in the room and she was totally obedient to me like "uh-oh you guys he's here you better be on your best behavior" and stupid shit like that. :erm:

killtrocity
10-27-2011, 12:27 AM
if you're not the first person she sent them to it's really not a big deal. she never put her trust in you

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 12:31 AM
is she a suicide girl

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 06:22 AM
what? no son, these are photos she took of herself, like for a boyfriend or something, which have been pasted over a photo of her home facebook page

ilikeplanets
10-27-2011, 09:05 AM
Then just stay out of it, come on :(

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:07 AM
yeah that seems pretty exploitative

unintentional amateur porn is pretty terrible, redbreegull

FlyinLo_DyinSlo
10-27-2011, 10:29 AM
i saw an animated image of yo soy el mejor doing the arm wave in /gif/ one time


she was fully clothed

Nimrod's Son
10-27-2011, 10:39 AM
I assume most of you are familiar with those pictures in which nudes of a girl are slapped over a shot of her facebook, often including her name and other info.

what the fuck why would you assume this

agenda suicide
10-27-2011, 10:41 AM
what the fuck why would you assume this

Well, you ARE a creeper. C'mon!

Nimrod's Son
10-27-2011, 10:49 AM
Well, you ARE a creeper. C'mon!

i don't know what you mean. i've been consistent in my advocacy against sharing personal information of others on the internet for the intent to harass them.

soniclovenoize
10-27-2011, 11:02 AM
My ex shot some nudes when she turned 18. They're on the 'net somewhere... I'd like to see em.

She also claims she was offered a Vivid contract but her dad threatened to kill the guy, so that never happened. Not so sure if that's true though...

agenda suicide
10-27-2011, 11:35 AM
i don't know what you mean. i've been consistent in my advocacy against sharing personal information of others on the internet for the intent to harass them.

It was a joke, dude.

Order 66
10-27-2011, 01:25 PM
i run across pics of my old roommate every now and then. she's alot hotter than i remember her

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 02:23 PM
what the fuck why would you assume this

because first of all this board is basically 4chan already

and second of all, I am 1000% sure you know what I am talking about, you fucking freak

reprise85
10-27-2011, 02:35 PM
never been to 4chan but isn't it considered like the asshole of the internet? this place is just like a rash or something

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 02:48 PM
4chan is where the internet comes from

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 02:49 PM
it is indeed a wretched hive of scum and villainy

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 02:49 PM
but also, a good place to find pictures of nude girls

Toast
10-27-2011, 03:03 PM
i know this girl

http://www.godsgirls.com/girls/Delorean

delorean? what, is she gonna go back in time or sumthin'?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 03:24 PM
but also, a good place to find pictures of nude girls

why'd you ignore my post

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 03:26 PM
yeah that seems pretty exploitative

unintentional amateur porn is pretty terrible, redbreegull

also pretty unavoidable. I'm not going to repost, but I can't help liking amateur porn... there is a reason it is so popular

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 03:27 PM
I am going to go ahead and call any male here a liar who says he has never looked at porn obviously not meant for circulation

killtrocity
10-27-2011, 03:28 PM
but also, a good place to find pictures of nude girls

absolutely!

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 03:34 PM
also pretty unavoidable. I'm not going to repost, but I can't help liking amateur porn... there is a reason it is so popular

amateur porn

that was meant to be amateur porn

and you can say "it's unavoidable" but when you know for a fact it wasn't intended to be public, you're being a fucking asshole hypocrite.

white knight card revoked. feminism is great when it's convenient, isn't it?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 03:51 PM
I already acknowledged it is morally hypocritical, and I already acknowledged you have the moral high ground. Are you telling me that you have never gotten off to a self shot mirror pic of some hot guy with his dick out? And what about all the celebrity leaks that have been posted here? Where were you to decry that as a moral outrage?

I think we need Trots to weigh in

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 03:58 PM
celebrity leaks are different because they are celebrities. i think it's unfair that they can't send out naked pictures without fear of repercussions but they are all well aware of that possibility.

and no, i don't jerk off to pictures of dudes in front of mirrors. i've visited guys with iphones but the vast majority of those are self-submitted. but regardless, i don't jerk off to them. and if i KNEW they were not self-submitted i definitely wouldn't jerk off to them. christ.

stop being an asshole. it's not that hard to find fucking pornography on the internet.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 03:59 PM
also, celebrities don't have their lives ruined by having naked pictures on the internet.

have you thought about this at all?

probably not.

again, it's all about convenience for you, i guess. kind of gross.

Caine Walker
10-27-2011, 04:00 PM
how do you know <i>for sure</i> that they have/haven't been self-submitted? and if you think it is, start whackin' it, then find out it's not, do you just stop?

that's weird.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 04:04 PM
eulogy, your celebrity excuse is pretty lame and a thin argument. celebrities do not have less rights than other people. you are basically following the exact same line of thought that leads people to justify any non-submitted nude photos. "celebs are different because they should know better"

everyone should know better but that doesn't stop people from taking nude pictures of themselves.

killtrocity
10-27-2011, 04:06 PM
^

here's the thing... there is always that nagging thought in the back of your mind, "what if the person posts this on the internet after we break up?" and that is the risk you take when you send a nude of yourself to someone else. I've sent nudes to only one person, but I have pictures of her as well, and even though I hate her and haven't seen her in over a year I would never post the pictures online. Not because I'm afraid she'll find out and post mine, but because I wouldn't do that. Would she post mine online? I don't know. But I certainly wouldn't blame her if I did, I would blame myself for giving them to her in the first place. And then I would post hers. Point is, neither of our pictures have ever turned up online, but it is not surprising that this shit happens ALL THE TIME and you have nobody to blame but yourself if you give someone else that power over you. idk. I don't consider it such a terrible thing to look at a picture that someone disclosed knowing full well what the consequences could be

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 04:07 PM
also the vast vast vast majority of girls who have their photos leaked online never find out. are their lives ruined? when a celebrity has a nude photo leaked, it is viewed by tens of millions of people and the entire world hears about it.

I am not trying to justify non-submitted nudes of women, but your argument is based on a gut emotional reaction.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 04:10 PM
I mean I don't blame the person in the photo for having faith in another person (although it is a stupid idea) because that's essentially blaming the victim. The person who submitted the photo is morally at fault. I also have some revealing pictures of past girlfriends, but I would never post them online.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 04:16 PM
regardless

I don't jerk off to leaked celebrity pictures either.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 04:18 PM
also the vast vast vast majority of girls who have their photos leaked online never find out. are their lives ruined? when a celebrity has a nude photo leaked, it is viewed by tens of millions of people and the entire world hears about it.

I am not trying to justify non-submitted nudes of women, but your argument is based on a gut emotional reaction.

No, it's based on the fact that you're a disingenuous prick who loves the moral high ground but will abandon it at the drop of a hat in order to jerk off to a picture of some girl that was meant to be private.

it's the goddamn internet. there is porn everywhere.

and this thread leads me to believe that you kind of get off on the idea of some girl having no idea her pictures are out there being beaten off to. which is pretty disgusting.

yo soy el mejor
10-27-2011, 04:23 PM
yeah redbreegul, you're a real sleaze.

yo soy el mejor
10-27-2011, 04:27 PM
you probably think you're sexually liberated but you're just a hypocrite and a pervert.




two orgasms in a row? lol

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 04:40 PM
oh no I am an awful person for admitting a vice that no one else even has the balls to be candid about

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 04:40 PM
also it's not really about them not knowing that it is online, it's arousing because it is real and not people being paid to have sex

yo soy el mejor
10-27-2011, 04:44 PM
:rolleyes:

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 04:51 PM
you can roll your eyes all you want, but there is shitloads of porn that bends over backwards attempting to look "amateur" because that is what people want. It's a pretty common thing for people to look for in pornography. but I don't really expect you to have any idea about that, considering you are a grown woman who is grossed out by sex

slunken
10-27-2011, 05:14 PM
what's the big fuss all about

slunken
10-27-2011, 05:14 PM
how many of you thought the blair witch project was real raise your hands

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 05:56 PM
so eulogy why didn't you feel compelled to speak up in the myth help thread, which featured many home-shot photos of girls in bathrooms?

or howabout in that recent porn thread, there was definitely stuff of dubious consent in there too?

reprise85
10-27-2011, 06:07 PM
oh no I am an awful person for admitting a vice that no one else even has the balls to be candid about

kinda agree with you here rbg

ilikeplanets
10-27-2011, 06:10 PM
This dumb chick may need a lesson, but you don't have to be the one to teach it to her. If you go spreading it, odds are something is going to get unearthed that doesn't need to, possibly about you!

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 06:12 PM
I only considered reposting it for a few minutes. I knew I would feel bad if I did. Actually considering alerting the girl? Not sure if that is the right thing to do either though. Chances are that right now she has no idea and probably won't find out... whereas if I tell her out of her "right to know" or something like that, it could cause her trauma, although the ex-boyfriend would get what is coming to him

FlyinLo_DyinSlo
10-27-2011, 06:16 PM
dsf

FlyinLo_DyinSlo
10-27-2011, 06:17 PM
ffff

Nimrod's Son
10-27-2011, 06:26 PM
redbreegull you are a stupid fuck and you're a piece of shit but you really should tell this girl because you know the ex is posting pics of all his formers

Dogfighter28
10-27-2011, 06:27 PM
yeah tell her and maybe she'll give you a thank you fuck

FlyinLo_DyinSlo
10-27-2011, 06:27 PM
she probably sent the pictures to a bunch of dudes and wont know who it was

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 06:33 PM
so eulogy why didn't you feel compelled to speak up in the myth help thread, which featured many home-shot photos of girls in bathrooms?

or howabout in that recent porn thread, there was definitely stuff of dubious consent in there too?

are you a retard?

I don't really look at the naked chick pictures in porn threads because I'm into dudes.

Whatever you want to tell yourself to make yourself feel better. You're a total shithead. The fact that you're jerking off to pictures that you know for a fact were meant to be private is absolutely repulsive.

Lots of us can admit to looking at porn. You're the only one defending looking at pictures you know were meant to be private. Go fuck yourself.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 06:34 PM
you can roll your eyes all you want, but there is shitloads of porn that bends over backwards attempting to look "amateur" because that is what people want. It's a pretty common thing for people to look for in pornography. but I don't really expect you to have any idea about that, considering you are a grown woman who is grossed out by sex

IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO FIND AMATEUR PORN CREATED BY WILLING PARTICIPANTS.

jesus christ.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 06:55 PM
eulogy, you are an out of control emotional toddler. you target me every chance you can because you have some personal vendetta against me, probably because I remind you of the worst parts about yourself or something. I am not guilty of anything outrageous or heinous. I did not rape anyone, murder anyone, steal from anyone, or lie to anyone. I looked at some naked girls who don't know I saw them naked. I didn't spread any pictures, I didn't break the trust of my ex girlfriends by posting their pictures. you are acting like a fucking freak, and you are embarrassing yourself. I'm not even defending amateur photos/videos, although whatever fits the narrative in your head is cool I guess. You can say I am "the only one" all you want, but I guarantee you that nearly every porn consumer has watched and seen stuff meant to be private.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:06 PM
does "amateur" mean "girls who don't know their pictures are on the internet" to you?

god you really are an insufferable fucking idiot.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:06 PM
i always love when people make these big responses to me without addressing a single thing i said to them.

the true sign of someone who knows he has lost.

Dogfighter28
10-27-2011, 07:07 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND CUT

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:07 PM
It was a joke, dude.

he sounded defensive

Gossamer
10-27-2011, 07:07 PM
also just realized I spelled amateur wrong in the thread title.

don't worry about it man, it's hard to type with one hand.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:08 PM
I think we need Trots to weigh in

if she put a naked pic on facebook it's not private

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:08 PM
does "amateur" mean "girls who don't know their pictures are on the internet" to you?

god you really are an insufferable fucking idiot.

why don't you explain to me how you tell the difference between a home sex video meant to end up online and a home sex video not meant to end up online

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:09 PM
why don't you explain to me how you tell the difference between a home sex video meant to end up online and a home sex video not meant to end up online

you made the thread about a time when you knew the fucking difference. and then you espoused some website where basically all the girls are getting their private pictures pasted on their facebook photos or whatever the fuck you're talking about.

also there are other ways to tell.

girls on xtube have accounts with their own videos. girls do public cam shows. it's not that fucking difficult, you idiotic misogynistic prick.

Dogfighter28
10-27-2011, 07:10 PM
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:10 PM
i mean we need to legitimately recognize that facebook is not a place to post anything or say anything because it's used for marketing and sales and if you have naked pictures on it there's really no fucking reason those wouldn't eventually be compromised

HOWEVER you are STILL a dick if YOU are the one that compromises it so you have a choice to make. Am I a dick that wants to share a naked girl with the world without her consent or do I choose to safe guard her femininity and sexuality like a good little male protector?

i'm getting sick of feminism and sexism being thrown around in everything by the way, this board reads too many liberal blogs.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:11 PM
I don't really look at the naked chick pictures in porn threads because I'm into dudes.


does anyone realize how ridiculous this is? So he looks in the porn threads and somehow does not notice that half the pictures are of girls in their bedrooms on webcams and shit? is he just so cock crazed that he is able to scroll over all those pictures with complete obliviousness?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:11 PM
if she put a naked pic on facebook it's not private

that's not what happened

what if she sent it to a boyfriend who put it on one of rbg's favorite porn sites?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:12 PM
does anyone realize how ridiculous this is? So he looks in the porn threads and somehow does not notice that half the pictures are of girls in their bedrooms on webcams and shit? is he just so cock crazed that he is able to scroll over all those pictures with complete obliviousness?

......

i'll say again

are you a retard

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:12 PM
i mean we need to legitimately recognize that facebook is not a place to post anything or say anything because it's used for marketing and sales and if you have naked pictures on it there's really no fucking reason those wouldn't eventually be compromised

HOWEVER you are STILL a dick if YOU are the one that compromises it so you have a choice to make. Am I a dick that wants to share a naked girl with the world without her consent or do I choose to safe guard her femininity and sexuality like a good little male protector?

i'm getting sick of feminism and sexism being thrown around in everything by the way, this board reads too many liberal blogs.

have you/do you ever watch porn or look at photos or nude females which appear they were meant to be private?

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:12 PM
celebrity leaks are different because they are celebrities.

Feminist card revoked, etc.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:12 PM
have you/do you ever watch porn or look at photos or nude females which appear they were meant to be private?

no

Dogfighter28
10-27-2011, 07:13 PM
COCK CRAZED

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:13 PM
Feminist card revoked, etc.

no, because i still don't beat off to them and think it's wrong.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:13 PM
that's not what happened

what if she sent it to a boyfriend who put it on one of rbg's favorite porn sites?

oh right yeah well i mean it's out there so it's your choice to make, it was her mistake too she's no victim. you don't need that shit on the internet it's not a god given right that you should be able to send naked pics to boyfriends and you should eventually expect that it you know MAYBE won't work out and WHAT'S HE GONNA DO WIT THOSE NOODS.

yo soy el mejor
10-27-2011, 07:14 PM
i'm not grosssed out by sex. what?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:14 PM
no

I don't really believe you

yo soy el mejor
10-27-2011, 07:14 PM
i'm grossed out by you.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:14 PM
no, because i still don't beat off to them and think it's wrong.

dude taking pictures of people's junk without their permission is not cool even if they are celebrities

are celebrities no longer human beings with a natural right to privacy?

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:15 PM
I don't really believe you

i think amateur porn sucks

it's like getting a hooker at a shitty motel

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:15 PM
oh right yeah well i mean it's out there so it's your choice to make, it was her mistake too she's no victim. you don't need that shit on the internet it's not a god given right that you should be able to send naked pics to boyfriends and you should eventually expect that it you know MAYBE won't work out and WHAT'S HE GONNA DO WIT THOSE NOODS.

yeah the bitch deserves what she gets!

...

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..........................

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:16 PM
dude taking pictures of people's junk without their permission is not cool even if they are celebrities

are celebrities no longer human beings with a natural right to privacy?

i said i thought it was wrong.

maybe my punctuation was hard to understand. but i agree that it's wrong.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:16 PM
yeah ok so

brett farve

was funny to you right

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:16 PM
it wasn't

"Oh well Brett shouldn't be sending pictures of his dick to chicks."

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:16 PM
i still don't beat off to them

and i think snapping photos of them in public and/or sharing private photos sent by celbrities is wrong.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:17 PM
Anthony Weiner

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:17 PM
IT is NOT different if it's a WOMAN that is SEXISM

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:17 PM
it wasn't

"Oh well Brett shouldn't be sending pictures of his dick to chicks."

it was funny. admittedly hypocritical there because i fucking hate him.

did i give a shit? no. did i jerk off to it? no.

did i hate him before? yes. did i hate him more after? no.

duovamp
10-27-2011, 07:17 PM
I totes cranked a few out to Favre's pics.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:18 PM
you made the thread about a time when you knew the fucking difference. and then you espoused some website where basically all the girls are getting their private pictures pasted on their facebook photos or whatever the fuck you're talking about.

also there are other ways to tell.



1. do you know what espouse means

2. bolded part, come on man, I know you have to realize how much you are embarrassing yourself right now. ALSO THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO TELL, are you serious?

3. that's not even true, home videos of couples are so endemic on porn sites there is virtually no way you could tell with most of them

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:18 PM
it was funny

did i give a shit? no. did i jerk off to it? no.

did i hate him before? yes. did i hate him more after? no.

i don't think jerking off is relevant

or hating in this case

with Farve and Weiner they send pictures of their dicks to girls on their phones. This girl sent nude pictures to boys on the her phone or over the internet. If you're sexist then she's not at fault, if you're not she totally is (or isn't if the guys aren't at fault, too).

and to UNDERLINE the fact that i said SPECIFICALLY that if you PASS IT FORWARD then you SUCK. STOP WITH THE FREAK OUT E.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:19 PM
Anthony Weiner

what point are you trying to make?

that jerking off to anonymous girls who sent pictures to their boyfriends is ok because we laugh at anthony weiner?

jesus christ trots.

think for a second.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:20 PM
i don't think jerking off is relevant

or hating in this case

with Farve and Weiner they send pictures of their dicks to girls on their phones. This girl sent nude pictures to boys on the her phone or over the internet. If you're sexist then she's not at fault, if you're not she totally is.

I think a Congressman and the most famous QB in the NFL should have different expectations than redbreegull's friend's boyfriend's ex-girlfriend (no it's not fair but holy shit are you kidding me)

jesus fucking christ.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:22 PM
girls on xtube have accounts with their own videos. girls do public cam shows. it's not that fucking difficult, you idiotic misogynistic prick.

don't selectively quote me, redbreegull. you fucking shithead.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:22 PM
i disagree that they deserve it because they are celebrities

i don't think there's any public trust they signed not to show pictures on the internet other than the fact that eventually they may get out

i mean you have a weird grasp of things here, you're really using a complete double standard but you get really angry when you're called on it, i'm not even being rude to you and you're swearing and being really ugly about it.

D.
10-27-2011, 07:23 PM
i think amateur porn sucks

it's like getting a hooker at a shitty motel
fuuuuccck this shit was funny.

i think i should just block everyone but trots and convince myself i'm reading a standup monologue

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:24 PM
Eulogy: so how about the scarlett johansson newds, cool or uncool?

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:24 PM
fuuuuccck this shit was funny.

i think i should just block everyone but trots and convince myself i'm reading a standup monologue

i'm so scared of developing material

i mean i could do a bit on amateur porn

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:26 PM
Eulogy: so how about the scarlett johansson newds, cool or uncool?

uncool. are you kidding me?

i'm not defending or justifying celebrity leaks. i'm just saying that it's an expectation famous people should have as a result of their fame that redbreegull's friend's boyfriend's brother's sister's husband's ex-girlfriend shouldn't have.

i am not defending the leaking of nude pictures of anyone.

unless they were unwanted and unsolicited, as they were with favre.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:26 PM
eulogy, you can't even figure out what you are arguing about. First you were arguing about the morality of looking at home-shot porn if it was not intended to be public, and now you are arguing about the specific photo I referred to? I didn't even say I whacked off to that. I just said I found it. I never even defended the practice as moral! You are just a fucking lunatic who has no control over your emotional responses. You are totally full of shit as evidenced by the celeb double standard, and the fact that ACTUAL pictures like this have been post on this board tons of times, yet a thread, WITHOUT pictures, ABOUT the topic sends you into a fucking frenzy because I made it. And then your explanation is "I don't look at the pictures of the girls". Come fucking on, how immature are you? You think anyone believes you somehow didn't see the shit ton of under age mirror shots in the myth help thread because you were too busy digging through it looking for the gay pictures? don't delude yourself

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:26 PM
what point are you trying to make?

that jerking off to anonymous girls who sent pictures to their boyfriends is ok because we laugh at anthony weiner?

jesus christ trots.

think for a second.

by the way this isn't even close to being it

i really think you're the one with the comprehension problems

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:27 PM
i disagree that they deserve it because they are celebrities




please show me where i said this

good fucking god

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:28 PM
uncool. are you kidding me?

How is it not sexist to think that is uncool but releasing dick picks of famous men is ok?

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:28 PM
shit is elementary logic yo

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:28 PM
eulogy, you can't even figure out what you are arguing about. First you were arguing about the morality of looking at home-shot porn if it was not intended to be public, and now you are arguing about the specific photo I referred to? I didn't even say I whacked off to that. I just said I found it. I never even defended the practice as moral! You are just a fucking lunatic who has no control over your emotional responses. You are totally full of shit as evidenced by the celeb double standard, and the fact that ACTUAL pictures like this have been post on this board tons of times, yet a thread, WITHOUT pictures, ABOUT the topic sends you into a fucking frenzy because I made it. And then your explanation is "I don't look at the pictures of the girls". Come fucking on, how immature are you? You think anyone believes you somehow didn't see the shit ton of under age mirror shots in the myth help thread because you were too busy digging through it looking for the gay pictures? don't delude yourself



....

.......

do you really think i look through the threads full of nothing but pictures of naked girls?

jesus christ. next time i will, i guess.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:28 PM
How is it not sexist to think that is uncool but releasing dick picks of famous men is ok?

THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:29 PM
please show me where i said this

good fucking god

It was implied here, and you knew it so don't play dumb.

it was funny. admittedly hypocritical there because i fucking hate him.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:30 PM
THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID

"It was funny because I hated him"

Is what you said

and that is the same

unless we're arguing in lawyerland which is bullshitworld.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:30 PM
so basically

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:30 PM
unless they were unwanted and unsolicited, as they were with favre.

^^^

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:31 PM
So not only did he not share consent he didn't even ask permission? And that's cool.

By the way you can't demonstrate that these pics weren't sent to a guy she was obsessed with and didn't want the pics, so you're layering a lot of qualifications on it.

But at the end we agree that sharing noods of men and women without consent is wrong, lets not get hysterical. I just wish you'd stop excusing your hypocrisy for laughing at farve but still being high and mighty mr. feminist liberal man, nahmean? Sets people off from the cause, nahmean? Creates divisions, nahmean?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:31 PM
don't selectively quote me, redbreegull. you fucking shithead.

I've never looked at a specific girl's profile on a site like that, nor have I ever watched a public cam show. We are talking about home shot couple sex, which as I already stated, is totally pervasive on sites like that. And no, you are not correct that it is always easy to tell which were meant to be private. Many videos that were not meant to be shared have been sold to legitimate porn websites which watermark them and put their own intro and logo on them, and some home shot stuff gets posted totally raw by sexually adventurous couples.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:32 PM
but hey, trots.

if you're gonna side with rbg here, i'll be comfortable in my dissent. have fun.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:32 PM
he's not even siding with me, what is wrong with your head boy

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:33 PM
I've never looked at a specific girl's profile on a site like that, nor have I ever watched a public cam show. We are talking about home shot couple sex, which as I already stated, is totally pervasive on sites like that. And no, you are not correct that it is always easy to tell which were meant to be private. Many videos that were not meant to be shared have been sold to legitimate porn websites which watermark them and put their own intro and logo on them, and some home shot stuff gets posted totally raw by sexually adventurous couples.

it's easy enough. go fuck yourself. enjoy exploiting innocent women just so you can get your rocks off. you're a shithead who's morals disappear when you get a boner.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:33 PM
it's easy enough. go fuck yourself. enjoy exploiting innocent women just so you can get your rocks off. you're a shithead who's morals disappear when you get a boner.

how would you know since you don't look at porn with women

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:34 PM
I mean, you can say it as many times as you want, but you are WRONG. You might want things to be that simple, but that doesn't make it fact.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:34 PM
but hey, trots.

if you're gonna side with rbg here, i'll be comfortable in my dissent. have fun.

i just want you to be consistent if you're going to be so pretentious

besides, i haven't even really read anything rbg posted because i already made it pretty clear that if he passes the pics on he's pretty shitty.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:35 PM
"it's easy enough"

you sound like a crazy person. You will regret your performance in this thread tomorrow.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:35 PM
So not only did he not share consent he didn't even ask permission? And that's cool.

By the way you can't demonstrate that these pics weren't sent to a guy she was obsessed with and didn't want the pics, so you're layering a lot of qualifications on it.

But at the end we agree that sharing noods of men and women without consent is wrong, lets not get hysterical. I just wish you'd stop excusing your hypocrisy for laughing at farve but still being high and mighty mr. feminist liberal man, nahmean? Sets people off from the cause, nahmean? Creates divisions, nahmean?

no i do know what you mean. sorry i started to conflate you with rbg. i shouldn't have done that.

but it's well settled that those pictures were unsolicited, right? if not, then i'll retract.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:36 PM
"it's easy enough"

you sound like a crazy person. You will regret your performance in this thread tomorrow.

no.

you are a fucking hypocritical prick.

remember when you conceded the moral high ground a couple pages ago?

yeah that still counts. i'm just not giving you a pass for it, you fucking shithead.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:37 PM
how would you know since you don't look at porn with women

yeah because only women get exploited in porn

jesus christ you are so fucking stupid

Elvis The Fat Years
10-27-2011, 07:37 PM
caine walker post eulogy nudes.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:37 PM
I already acknowledged it is morally hypocritical, and I already acknowledged you have the moral high ground.

here it is

if anyone was curious

i'm just telling you to stop giving in to your misogynistic instincts.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:38 PM
caine walker post eulogy nudes.

he won't do it because he's not an asshole

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:39 PM
it's easy enough. go fuck yourself. enjoy exploiting innocent women just so you can get your rocks off. you're a shithead who's morals disappear when you get a boner.

he is pretty right about this

by the way, i read this earlier found it fascinating. relates to this.

she began calling out pornographic myths — like that all women enjoy being on the receiving end of the adult industry’s celebrated “money shot.” “There’s an entire generation growing up that believes what you see in hardcore pornography is the way that you have sex,” she said, adding that this miseducation is only exacerbated by our “puritanical double-standards culture where people believe that a teen abstinence campaign will actually work, where parents are too embarrassed to have conversations about sex with their children and where educational institutions are terrified of being politically incorrect if they pick up those conversations.”

http://www.salon.com/2011/10/27/is_porn_ruining_our_love_lives/singleton/

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:40 PM
no.

you are a fucking hypocritical prick.

remember when you conceded the moral high ground a couple pages ago?

yeah that still counts. i'm just not giving you a pass for it, you fucking shithead.

maybe you should give me a morality ticket, mr. morality police man

yeah because only women get exploited in porn

jesus christ you are so fucking stupid

speaking of hypocrisy

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:41 PM
redbreegull: it's morally hypocritical, but it's ok because i have a boner.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:42 PM
n
but it's well settled that those pictures were unsolicited, right? if not, then i'll retract.

well it is for him but we can't really prove that they were sent unsolicited on her part, odds are they weren't since i don't think straight men ever really object to nude pictures of beautiful goils, but either way releasing them is kind of shitty even if they weren't solicited. Even in Farve's case. Now if they were released as part of a sexual harassment lawsuit then that's his bad for sure and he deserves it.

Because remember this girl was sexually exploited by Deadspin (I dunno if you know this but they frequently posted pictures of her at FSU games without her consent and she liked and encouraged that) and then turned them around and scratched their back by sending them pics of Brett Farve's dick. I mean, feminism is kind of a weird thing to jam in here. That FSU chick is no feminist.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:44 PM
he is pretty right about this

how so? Like I already pointed out, there are many videos which look like they are not meant to be shared which have been watermarked and distributed by pornographic businesses. Some of these are "faked," and some aren't. It's absurd to presume that you can absolutely tell the difference when so much produced porn aims to look home made and taboo, and so much home made private stuff gets mixed in with the professional stuff.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:45 PM
dude read the salon article and tell me it's not you

Gossamer
10-27-2011, 07:46 PM
read most of the thread and all I can say is that I can't believe caine walker puts up with this shit...

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:50 PM
well it is for him but we can't really prove that they were sent unsolicited on her part, odds are they weren't since i don't think straight men ever really object to nude pictures of beautiful goils, but either way releasing them is kind of shitty even if they weren't solicited. Even in Farve's case. Now if they were released as part of a sexual harassment lawsuit then that's his bad for sure and he deserves it.

Because remember this girl was sexually exploited by Deadspin (I dunno if you know this but they frequently posted pictures of her at FSU games without her consent and she liked and encouraged that) and then turned them around and scratched their back by sending them pics of Brett Farve's dick. I mean, feminism is kind of a weird thing to jam in here. That FSU chick is no feminist.

wait, i'm confused here.

i thought we were talking about the jets trainer who favre set unsolicited dick pics to. where does an FSU girl come into the picture?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:51 PM
how so? Like I already pointed out, there are many videos which look like they are not meant to be shared which have been watermarked and distributed by pornographic businesses. Some of these are "faked," and some aren't. It's absurd to presume that you can absolutely tell the difference when so much produced porn aims to look home made and taboo, and so much home made private stuff gets mixed in with the professional stuff.

this thread was about pictures that you knew were meant to be private

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:52 PM
by the way, i had a dumb and possibly controversial thought, isn't heterosexuality intrinsically sexist and people with a truly equal-genders world view would be bisexual?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by redbreegull
I already acknowledged it is morally hypocritical, and I already acknowledged you have the moral high ground.

^^^

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:52 PM
by the way, i had a dumb and possibly controversial thought, isn't heterosexuality intrinsically sexist and people with a truly equal-genders world view would be bisexual?

no, i don't think so. men and women heterosexuals can be equal partners. but jerking off to exploited women is sexist.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:53 PM
wait, i'm confused here.

i thought we were talking about the jets trainer who favre set unsolicited dick pics to. where does an FSU girl come into the picture?

http://www.google.com/search?pq=brett+favre+dick+pics&hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=5&gs_id=i&xhr=t&q=jenn+sterger&qe=amVuIHM&qesig=Dzs3gEscGcz_7f4n8EJ3oA&pkc=AFgZ2tkR3Km8aVoPe736E2GN4qTrp8ZZbT1tusUsYqJ4p-5pbHmf33gIu3KuaxQI75wqzhupjM6VPIZXxxgi7gJFnQA-P73L7Q&safe=off&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=847&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

<img src="http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/434/355/JennSterger1_display_image.jpg?1286562850">

you didn't know?

i saw pics of her on Deadspin and fake tit boards for a while before she even knew brett favre

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:54 PM
and before you straw man this have some faith in me, i'm not saying she asked for his dick pics by dressing that way or posing for pics on the internet i just don't see it as an feminist exploitation issue

because she is presumably an opprotunist and brett favre pretty much played right into it.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:54 PM
dude read the salon article and tell me it's not you

trots I will read the whole thing if you still think I should, but after reading the first few paragraphs I don't know how this applies to me. Making the girl come is THE best part of sex to me. I would rather give oral sex than receive it, and I love a good blowjob. I never watch porn with cumshots, throat fucking, smacking women, etc. I rarely watch anything other than regular old fashioned boy on girl, and I don't want it to look like they are faking being into it for a few thousand dollars because those things are turn offs. Having said this, I will read the article if it has something else in there relevant to me, I just don't have time to do the whole thing right now.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:55 PM
but jerking off to exploited women is sexist.

so when are they not exploited?

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 07:56 PM
trots I will read the whole thing if you still think I should, but after reading the first few paragraphs I don't know how this applies to me. Making the girl come is THE best part of sex to me. I would rather give oral sex than receive it, and I love a good blowjob. I never watch porn with cumshots, throat fucking, smacking women, etc. I rarely watch anything other than regular old fashioned boy on girl, and I don't want it to look like they are faking being into it for a few thousand dollars because those things are turn offs. Having said this, I will read the article if it has something else in there relevant to me, I just don't have time to do the whole thing right now.

you really watch a lot of porn though i think that's obvious

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:56 PM
this thread was about pictures that you knew were meant to be private

yeah but that is not what you first responded to when you got pissed, it was the concept of looking at nude photos of girls which were meant to be private in general

^^^

oh no you are just making me feel so bad that I already admitted I partake in an unmoral activity, oh nooooooo

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 07:58 PM
oh no you are just making me feel so bad that I already admitted I partake in an unmoral activity, oh nooooooo

that's the only fucking point i've been making

so shut the fuck up

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:58 PM
you really watch a lot of porn though i think that's obvious

yeah I do watch a lot of porn, what does that have to do with anything? Is reading the rest of the article relevant to me or not?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 07:58 PM
that's the only fucking point i've been making

so shut the fuck up

that's not a point? What planet are you from

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:00 PM
and before you straw man this have some faith in me, i'm not saying she asked for his dick pics by dressing that way or posing for pics on the internet i just don't see it as an feminist exploitation issue

because she is presumably an opprotunist and brett favre pretty much played right into it.

naw dude i don't mean to launch straw men at you. i honestly didn't know about the FSU stuff.

but like you said, none of that means she asked for dick pics.


but you know, maybe she did. in which case i'll owe favre an apology i guess.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:01 PM
that's not a point? What planet are you from

you are morally bankrupt.

that's a point.

i just made it.

now go fuck yourself.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:01 PM
no even if she didn't want the dick pics i don't think it's cool to release them to a stupid blog so everyone can have a laff at his expense because the blog helped your "career" or "celebrity"

it was a shitty deal concerning two shitty people

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:02 PM
I didn't realize how short the article was, fucking comments make the scrollbar look long as shit. Anyway yeah, I don't know what that has to do with what we are talking about. As I already explained, I don't find hardcore type stuff interesting exactly because it looks so fake. I don't want to come on a girl's face, I don't want to throatfuck her into vomiting, I don't want to pound her mercilessly and then come on her back... Which is why people are driven to videos of people having believable sex behind closed doors.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:03 PM
you are morally bankrupt.

that's a point.

i just made it.

now go fuck yourself.

you are a child. most people view admitting a wrong as a step in the correct direction, but you are so emotionally stunted you view it as an attempt to try to bully and humiliate

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:04 PM
yeah I do watch a lot of porn, what does that have to do with anything? Is reading the rest of the article relevant to me or not?

i dunno you're hyperventillating. i know it sucks when you think you're a feminist and it turns out that your porn addiction renders all of that moot but keep wanking and get over it

i did.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:06 PM
you are a child. most people view admitting a wrong as a step in the correct direction, but you are so emotionally stunted you view it as an attempt to try to bully and humiliate

hahahahahhahahahaaha

rbg thinks this is an AA meeting i guess

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:06 PM
what? I don't even know what you are talking about

@ trots

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:06 PM
Which is why people are driven to videos of people having believable sex behind closed doors.

i like softcore lesbianism and fake tits. i'm a fucked up sexist. whatever.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:06 PM
Redbreegull: I'm a total misogynist. This is a step in the right direction.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:07 PM
but eulogy your response really is very immature and illogical for someone so intelligent

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:08 PM
rbg, i am more intelligent than you. i think i probably know better.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:08 PM
Redbreegull: I'm a total misogynist. This is a step in the right direction.

^^

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:12 PM
to find a picture of a girl you know?


Well believe me, my jaw just about hit the floor when I was surfing /b/ earlier today and this actually happened to me, no fucking joke. I assume most of you are familiar with those pictures in which nudes of a girl are slapped over a shot of her facebook, often including her name and other info.

i mean

seriously?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:15 PM
I can't believe you don't realize what an immature asshole you are being. you suck as a human being too. you can't have normal interactions with anyone because you are an emotional 15 year old. not replying to anything else in this thread because I don't feel like being harassed by the playground bully with a napoleon complex because I admitted I do something wrong

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:19 PM
yeah i think i'm doing ok

thanks for the concern

i don't need the approval from some misogynist shithead who wants the moral high ground unless he has a boner

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:20 PM
i mean how am i being immature?

by saying exploitation of girls who send pictures to their boyfriends is wrong?

LOL WTF.

SuckSuckStyle
10-27-2011, 08:32 PM
i thought i saw my old roommate on one of those sidebar video ads for other porn sites. getting it from behind....but i couldnt be sure. i dont really care either way. shes awesome and i love her.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:39 PM
@eulogy

you are actively being a bully. you understand that I have already acknowledged that it is immoral to spread nude photos of girls without their consent. I honestly don't really think viewing them is that immoral, but it is deviant. I admitted that on page 1. But you feel the need the engage in harassment because it is not enough to you to know you have won the argument, as I conceded near the beginning when I said you had the moral high ground. No, you want to make me feel bad, which is why you are an immature prick. Your behavior in this thread is embarrassing, seriously. You are too old to act like this.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:42 PM
"you're right, I understand that it is a corrupt act but I admit that I do it anyway because I like it"

"YOU DO NOT FUCKING GET IT I AM SMARTER THAN YOU THIS IS A CORRUPT ACT"

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:43 PM
except add like ten more fucks and a jesus christ in there

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:45 PM
that is a point

because the feminism flag gets waved around and trumpeted as a moral high ground and if you're not one you're a shit eating mutant which makes all the actual shit eating mutants just stick to their guns and alienates moderates who just don't understand it

i was watching one flew over the coocoos nest the other night, and i read a bit about the book and the book sounds profoundly mysoginistic and the movie toned it down and is still implicitly sexist but it's still a Really Good Fucking Movie, nahmean?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:46 PM
not replying to anything else in this thread

@eulogy

you are actively being a bully. you understand that I have already acknowledged that it is immoral to spread nude photos of girls without their consent. I honestly don't really think viewing them is that immoral, but it is deviant. I admitted that on page 1. But you feel the need the engage in harassment because it is not enough to you to know you have won the argument, as I conceded near the beginning when I said you had the moral high ground. No, you want to make me feel bad, which is why you are an immature prick. Your behavior in this thread is embarrassing, seriously. You are too old to act like this.

"you're right, I understand that it is a corrupt act but I admit that I do it anyway because I like it"

"YOU DO NOT FUCKING GET IT I AM SMARTER THAN YOU THIS IS A CORRUPT ACT"

except add like ten more fucks and a jesus christ in there

i'm sorry. i think you're a fucking phony. i'm gonna go ahead and say it.

you are all about the moralism when it works for you. and when it doesn't, you say we should admire you for admitting your failings.

sorry, no. i'm gonna tell you you are a fucking worthless shithead idiot asshole. because that is what you are.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:47 PM
so when are they not exploited?

by the way is this hard to answer or did you just miss it in your zeal to put down redbreegull

SuckSuckStyle
10-27-2011, 08:47 PM
so who likes jacking off?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:48 PM
even though you are usually on the correct side of issues, you are just such an awful insufferable childish person you do more damage than good to your causes

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:49 PM
so who likes jacking off?

come on dude, this is a feminism/sex thread now so lets get philosophical. i think you have a lot of experience and insight to bring to the table.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:50 PM
really, if my greatest sin is seeing girls nude without their knowledge, so be it. I'd rather have it that way than treat everyone like shit because my emotions are a runaway train.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:50 PM
yeah but he made his case that you're not a feminist. bfd.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:53 PM
the thing is that although it is immoral based on the "everyone deserves to know the truth" moral precept, I haven't actually harmed any of these women. Pretty low level of moral deviance... versus bullying someone on a message board who admitted 6 pages ago that he feels bad about his immoral actions.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:54 PM
it has nothing to do with feminism, he's already thoroughly embarrassed himself with his double standard based on sex.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:55 PM
If I liked men, I would be prone to look at home photos of dicks.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:55 PM
i dunno we ironed that out i think, he gets really hysterical

liberals WE HAVE TO STOP THE WARS

we can work this shit out without yelling at each other

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:57 PM
what if I accidentally see a girl nude in real life, in a coming out of the shower scenario or something? by eulogy's logic I am committing an unfeminist sin by thinking of that image when I masturbate later

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:57 PM
why does he keep saying i embarrassed myself when he's the one admitting to his moral failings?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:58 PM
is it a form of debauchery? hmmm, I would say yes. It is. Is it harming her? No.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 08:58 PM
by the way is this hard to answer or did you just miss it in your zeal to put down redbreegull

no, i did answer this.

when women want to be where they are, i.e, in porn, or being taped having sex, or masturbating on camera because they want to be doing that, then they aren't being exploited. this isn't difficult.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 08:58 PM
why does he keep saying i embarrassed myself when he's the one admitting to his moral failings?

you have a really twisted mind if you think anyone should be embarrassed to admit their shortcomings eulogy.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:58 PM
i dunno i want my fucking question discussed

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 08:59 PM
when women want to be where they are, i.e, in porn, or being taped having sex, or masturbating on camera because they want to be doing that, then they aren't being exploited. this isn't difficult.

sure it is

what if she's doing it not purely but because she wants attention, or she's making her repressive family angry, or she's doing it for cocaine or whatever and how can you tell all of that looking at a picture

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:00 PM
isn't it safer to assume that in general they're doing it because they're generally being exploited by an industry primarily for men and controlled by men?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:01 PM
you have a really twisted mind if you think anyone should be embarrassed to admit their shortcomings eulogy.

i was asking why i should be embarrassed

so if you wanted to, hypothetically, bone children, you'd have no reason to be embarrassed?

my real reason for asking that though was to find out why exactly i should be embarrassed for calling you out on your misogyny. still waiting for an answer to that one.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:01 PM
man i see how annoying eulogy and i used to be

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:01 PM
no, i did answer this.

when women want to be where they are, i.e, in porn, or being taped having sex, or masturbating on camera because they want to be doing that, then they aren't being exploited. this isn't difficult.

yes, it is actually. you are making a moral issue black and white, when, like all moral issues, it is in fact difficult. What about those casting videos where the girls are clearly unhappy, doing it for the money cause they are broke, etc? The salon article pointed out that not all girls like getting cum on their face, and this is pretty obvious when you watch porn. A lot of the girls do not like it. You think just because someone agreed to tape porn means she isn't being exploited in some way? Very reductive.

SuckSuckStyle
10-27-2011, 09:01 PM
i always think its amusing when a porn girl shaves her pubes into the shape of a cross.

bahnzah
10-27-2011, 09:03 PM
.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:04 PM
isn't it safer to assume that in general they're doing it because they're generally being exploited by an industry primarily for men and controlled by men?

see, i'll admit i have it easier by not having to look at female porn. but as we discussed in an earlier thread (at least i think it was us, it may not have been), there are female-directed porn sites that are very, very, very explicit about being non-exploitative. they exist for people like you and me (if i were straight).

it's not. that. hard. to find.

that is my only point. and rbg is a total shithead for claiming to be some great liberal feminist until his dick gets hard and then it doesn't matter because he acknowledges his failings.

i mean

are you fucking kidding me? what a useless fucking asshole. i don't want him as an example of leftism.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:05 PM
yes, it is actually. you are making a moral issue black and white, when, like all moral issues, it is in fact difficult. What about those casting videos where the girls are clearly unhappy, doing it for the money cause they are broke, etc? The salon article pointed out that not all girls like getting cum on their face, and this is pretty obvious when you watch porn. A lot of the girls do not like it. You think just because someone agreed to tape porn means she isn't being exploited in some way? Very reductive.

ALL OF THAT IS WRONG

HOLY SHIT

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:05 PM
i was asking why i should be embarrassed

so if you wanted to, hypothetically, bone children, you'd have no reason to be embarrassed?

my real reason for asking that though was to find out why exactly i should be embarrassed for calling you out on your misogyny. still waiting for an answer to that one.

because you are a bully, eulogy. It's not enough for you to win the argument. You feel the need to hurt your opponent, which is the paragon of an immature rhetorician.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:06 PM
you're on the goddamn internet

if you can't find girls who like sex on it then you should probably just shut the fuck up

jesus fucking christ

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:06 PM
yes, it is actually. you are making a moral issue black and white, when, like all moral issues, it is in fact difficult. What about those casting videos where the girls are clearly unhappy, doing it for the money cause they are broke, etc? The salon article pointed out that not all girls like getting cum on their face, and this is pretty obvious when you watch porn. A lot of the girls do not like it. You think just because someone agreed to tape porn means she isn't being exploited in some way? Very reductive.

i think it's the biggest problem with the way we argue about feminist issues today, it's really good/evil kind of dichotomy in the language used when even people who champion themselves as feminists can't agree on things

and being a prophet of reasonableness and squashing namecalling i understand is pretty rich, but i'm trying these days. i don't really feel i need to hold anything back from condescending libertarians but i even had a discussion with a rather misinformed ron paul cultist the other night and i had him agreeing to socialist statements because of the technique of <i>persuasion</I> that we've collectively lost because the internet is where we go to discuss contentious issues so now we're all really tribal about it

NAH
MEAN
?

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:07 PM
because you are a bully, eulogy. It's not enough for you to win the argument. You feel the need to hurt your opponent, which is the paragon of an immature rhetorician.

i thought we already established i was smarter than you.

you're a misogynist in the guise of a liberal. you're a slave to your own goddamn erection.

you should feel bad about it.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:07 PM
that is my only point. and rbg is a total shithead for claiming to be some great liberal feminist until his dick gets hard and then it doesn't matter because he acknowledges his failings.

i mean

are you fucking kidding me? what a useless fucking asshole. i don't want him as an example of leftism.

you don't have a point eulogy, you're just a dickhead who can't calm down

ALL OF THAT IS WRONG

HOLY SHIT

I really enjoy how you tell me off for not responding to every point in each of your posts, but half your responses are this. Maybe children should get the shit beat out of them once in awhile.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:08 PM
they exist for people like you and me (if i were straight).

I dunno if I am who you think I am, i'm not kidding: I like fake tits and softcore lesbianism.

Of course the girls I like the most you can totally tell are <i>into it</I>. But still, motivations are kind of nebulous. I just think it's safer to say that pornography is exploitative and generally sexist but not necessarily misogynist.

Banana
10-27-2011, 09:10 PM
Not reading this entire bitch thread.


But Amateur porn is only good if it is really amateur.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:12 PM
I dunno if I am who you think I am, i'm not kidding: I like fake tits and softcore lesbianism.

Of course the girls I like the most you can totally tell are <i>into it</I>. But still, motivations are kind of nebulous. I just think it's safer to say that pornography is exploitative and generally sexist but not necessarily misogynist.

but porn isn't necessarily exploitative

it is a total copout to say it is all exploitative and then give yourself a free pass to watch whatever since it's all equally bad.

i'm not saying you will always know.


but when you do, don't fucking watch it. it is not complicated.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:12 PM
NO YOU ARE ALL WRONG I AM SMARTER THAN YOU

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:13 PM
i'm not saying you will always know.


that's funny, you literally did say that

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:14 PM
can we all just agree that redbreegull is a fucking idiot shithead?

stripes
10-27-2011, 09:14 PM
Skimmed this entire thread looking for pics, but only saw the same 3-4 nerds arguing over who's a bigger faggot

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:16 PM
I already acknowledged it is morally hypocritical, and I already acknowledged you have the moral high ground.

So

what exactly am I wrong about here?

You just don't want to feel bad about being a hypocrite? Is that it?

wHATcOLOR
10-27-2011, 09:17 PM
7 pages? where's the fucking porn

Banana
10-27-2011, 09:19 PM
Yeah were the fuck are the pictures?


You didn't put the pictures on the internet, no one here knows her, they are already online for all to see. Just post them, nothing wrong with posting them.


I know if one of my friends spots nudes online of someone we knew then we are all seeing that. It's the god damn guy code.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:23 PM
So

what exactly am I wrong about here?

You just don't want to feel bad about being a hypocrite? Is that it?

you are wrong in your behavior towards others because you are an immature asshole. I'm sure to you it really is as simple as being right, but here in the adult world we don't bully each other even when we think we are wrong because we understand how childish and illogical it is

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:24 PM
how childish and illogical it is to tell someone when they are morally bankrupt

ok guy i get it

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:25 PM
but porn isn't necessarily exploitative

Fair enough, I just think we should untether sexism equating misogyny because I think that's extreme and people would be more receptive to progressive ideas if it was more inclusionary.

it is a total copout to say it is all exploitative and then give yourself a free pass to watch whatever since it's all equally bad.

I didn't really indicate that was my intention. I just mean to say unless there's extreme degredation and humiliation (goreans are examples of misogynistic hedonists) that even if they are drunk co-eds, sad looking blushing girls or women that are tied up that it doesn't necessarily make you a hater of women, but probably sexist. I kind of feel like the overwhelming majority of people are sexist in some way, and to draw a big white line around who's right and wrong is unnecessarily hostile and won't win the argument.

but when you do, don't fucking watch it. it is not complicated.

yeah for me it's a turn off if they don't look excited and into it, but who knows if the blushing young woman looking uncomfortable isn't doing it on purpose because it attracts the attention she likes? I mean. Lot of guys like that shy, scared b.s.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:25 PM
let's not forget that i have thought you were a useless shithead for like eight years now

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:26 PM
and once again, I think it's pretty funny that you call me out for not responding to your every point, but your response to everything I say is "can we just agree redbreegull is a shithead?" Get your head out of your ass. notice how more people in this thread have commented on your behavior in this argument than on my moral wrongness? that should tell you something about how to interact with others, but I guess you aren't as smart as you think you are

yo soy el mejor
10-27-2011, 09:26 PM
redbreegull is such a buffoon. he thinks looking at porn makes him special. blah blah blah.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:26 PM
how childish and illogical it is to tell someone when they are morally bankrupt

ok guy i get it

like talking to a fucking animal

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:27 PM
Fair enough, I just think we should untether sexism equating misogyny because I think that's extreme and people would be more receptive to progressive ideas if it was more inclusionary.



I didn't really indicate that was my intention. I just mean to say unless there's extreme degredation and humiliation (goreans are examples of misogynistic hedonists) that even if they are drunk co-eds, sad looking blushing girls or women that are tied up that it doesn't necessarily make you a hater of women, but probably sexist. I kind of feel like the overwhelming majority of people are sexist in some way, and to draw a big white line around who's right and wrong is unnecessarily hostile and won't win the argument.



yeah for me it's a turn off if they don't look excited and into it, but who knows if the blushing young woman looking uncomfortable isn't doing it on purpose because it attracts the attention she likes? I mean. Lot of guys like that shy, scared b.s.

dude you're harshing my anti-rbg buzz here

we don't disagree on any of this. well, i think maybe you think sexism is unavoidable and i don't, but that's for a different time. also i'm gay so that conversation is more complicated.

but i know you're a good dude. rbg pretends to be a good dude. and that is what bothers me.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:27 PM
haha i am GLAD people are complaining about all the stupid words and no tits, btw. I AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE RAINED ON YOUR PORN PARADE.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:28 PM
and once again, I think it's pretty funny that you call me out for not responding to your every point, but your response to everything I say is "can we just agree redbreegull is a shithead?" Get your head out of your ass. notice how more people in this thread have commented on your behavior in this argument than on my moral wrongness? that should tell you something about how to interact with others, but I guess you aren't as smart as you think you are

you, gossamer, and banana

i'll take my chances against you three

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:30 PM
Eulogy, you just don't get it. It doesn't matter if you are on the right side of an issue if you are this big an asshole about it. Not only is it counterproductive, it undermines your perceived moral high ground. Treating people like shit, bullying them, making fun of them, and throwing it in their face when they admit they are wrong is not moral behavior. You are a piece of shit too.

Aside from this, I guarantee I have done more good for people in my life than you have, you fucking lawyer dipshit rat bitch

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:30 PM
Aside from this, I guarantee I have done more good for people in my life than you have, you fucking lawyer dipshit rat bitch

hahahahahahahha

you wanna fucking bet, asshole?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:30 PM
^ BTW that last sentence was my best eulogy impression

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:31 PM
dude you're harshing my anti-rbg buzz here

we don't disagree on any of this. well, i think maybe you think sexism is unavoidable and i don't, but that's for a different time. also i'm gay so that conversation is more complicated.

but i know you're a good dude. rbg pretends to be a good dude. and that is what bothers me.

nah he's a good dude he just needs to compile everything into a functional worldview but I didn't have that shit straight when I was 23 for sure

i think my political and cultural arguments and viewpoint are both more flexible and better presented than I think I've ever been in my life. I probably would have come to this point earlier if i really applied myself but I kind of like to take it easy and I'm building a pretty convincing justification for that at the moment as well.

stripes
10-27-2011, 09:32 PM
the fags continue on

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:32 PM
nah he's a good dude he just needs to compile everything into a functional worldview but I didn't have that shit straight when I was 23 for sure

i think my political and cultural arguments and viewpoint are both more flexible and better presented than I think I've ever been in my life. I probably would have come to this point earlier if i really applied myself but I kind of like to take it easy and I'm building a pretty convincing justification for that at the moment as well.

why are you giving rbg deference for being young when he's the same age as me?

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:32 PM
hahahahahahahha

you wanna fucking bet, asshole?

go ahead an tell us what you do that makes your existence so beneficial to others, other than talking the talk

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:34 PM
^ BTW that last sentence was my best eulogy impression

well about the rest of it then

you aren't ever a jerk to anyone here?

you never criticize nimrod?

ok.

i thought so.

fuck the fuck off you miserable, idiotic piece of trash.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:34 PM
why are you giving rbg deference for being young when he's the same age as me?

it's just totally absurd that you think you have acted like the mature adult in this thread. you have played the fucking fool through and through, and the worst part is that you are so bent on criticizing others you have shut yourself down to any self monitoring.

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:35 PM
go ahead an tell us what you do that makes your existence so beneficial to others, other than talking the talk

i work for legal services and help domestic violence victims and people who are getting evicted from their apartments and people who are disabled and can't figure out how to get their SS benefits.

and everything else that people who can't afford lawyers need.

go fuck yourself.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:35 PM
dude you're harshing my anti-rbg buzz here

trying to at least move the conversation into an area that will be more satisfying for at least a few people

watching you two bitch is making me really self concious

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
trying to at least move the conversation into an area that will be more satisfying for at least a few people

watching you two bitch is making me really self concious

this is fair enough

i feel like i get the benefit of always being a part of this nonsense. : D

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
well, i think maybe you think sexism is unavoidable

i kind of think a lot of things are unavoidable but an attempt should be made to correct them?

I mean if i lived in the 18th century I probably would argue against slavery but honestly assume that it was going to be inevitable anyway, and if you're really basic about your terms, it kind of is.

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:43 PM
i work for legal services and help domestic violence victims and people who are getting evicted from their apartments and people who are disabled and can't figure out how to get their SS benefits.

and everything else that people who can't afford lawyers need.

go fuck yourself.

I've taught school to impoverished children in rural Africa, I have given thousands of hours of my time in public schools in the DC area, I work in the special ed department of a middle school where I am subject to mind bending frustration and emotional trauma all the time and there isn't a single day when I don't work at least an hour over what I can get paid for, I donate to humanitarian causes when I can even though I don't even have the money to move out of my parent's apartment, I approach all challenges in my work professionally and positively no matter how hopeless the task seems, I try my best to be civil and kind to people even when I disagree with them very, very strongly (except Nimrod) because I understand that kindness is transformative and negativity is not. Sometimes I even feel bad when I curse people out on Netphoria, believe it or not. I try my very best to admit when I have done something wrong and although this is not always successful, changing oneself is a difficult process so I also try not to judge others too harshly when they find it difficult to improve themselves according to my own standards.

These are most of the things I am proud of in my life.

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:44 PM
I've taught school to impoverished children in rural Africa,

I've let west side kids goof off in computer class.

_|_

Trotskilicious
10-27-2011, 09:44 PM
i wasn't called best substitute ever for nothing or for very long

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:47 PM
I've taught school to impoverished children in rural Africa, I have given thousands of hours of my time in public schools in the DC area, I work in the special ed department of a middle school where I am subject to mind bending frustration and emotional trauma all the time and there isn't a single day when I don't work at least an hour over what I can get paid for, I donate to humanitarian causes when I can even though I don't even have the money to move out of my parent's apartment, I approach all challenges in my work professionally and positively no matter how hopeless the task seems, I try my best to be civil and kind to people even when I disagree with them very, very strongly (except Nimrod) because I understand that kindness is transformative and negativity is not. Sometimes I even feel bad when I curse people out on Netphoria, believe it or not. I try my very best to admit when I have done something wrong and although this is not always successful, changing oneself is a difficult process so I also try not to judge others too harshly when they find it difficult to improve themselves according to my own standards.

These are most of the things I am proud of in my life.

well i don't get paid for any of what i do

so

wow looks like i'm better

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:48 PM
well i don't get paid for any of what i do

so

wow looks like i'm better

lol do you know what a paraeducator gets paid? pretty unnecessary to go there, but since you can't contain yourself, I might point out that as a teacher I will never see the big bucks roll in, but you are training to be a lawyer

redbreegull
10-27-2011, 09:49 PM
also, I PAID to go teach in Africa

kelsome
10-27-2011, 09:50 PM
Here I'll get the tape measure out guys

Eulogy
10-27-2011, 09:51 PM
lol do you know what a paraeducator gets paid? pretty unnecessary to go there, but since you can't contain yourself, I might point out that as a teacher I will never see the big bucks roll in, but you are training to be a lawyer

yeah, i know a lot about paraeducators because i deal with kids who use them when trying to get them SS benefits.

and i don't know what you think legal services lawyers make but ok