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samuel redman
01-16-2011, 07:35 PM
http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2011/01/15/shaman-encouraged-chamberlin-to-leave-smashing-pumpkins/

reprise85
01-16-2011, 08:09 PM
well,

Venom
01-16-2011, 08:11 PM
Why am I not surprised?

Rider
01-16-2011, 08:27 PM
Man did I pick the wrong band to get into.

wHATcOLOR
01-16-2011, 08:36 PM
http://shamandurek.bandcamp.com/track/prana

somaziro
01-16-2011, 08:49 PM
all I have to say is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbUPISS6gw

killtrocity
01-16-2011, 09:04 PM
:erm:

samuel redman
01-16-2011, 09:25 PM
the only logical conclusion that i can now come up with is that billy, jimmy, james and darcy are insane

Space Girl 1979
01-16-2011, 09:48 PM
L O L

D'arcy and James were the most sane of the group.

At this rate I'm beginning to think D'arcy wasn't on drugs when she decided to bail... she was probably sober and sick of everyone else's bull shit.

somaziro
01-16-2011, 10:38 PM
all you need to do is look at the pics from the arising tour to know that Darcy was completely cracked out of her mind.

paranoid
01-16-2011, 10:39 PM
Here is Jimmy doing a drum track under this shaman guy doing some 'meditative' speaking.

http://shamandurek.bandcamp.com/track/prana

As weird as this is, the drumming on this KICKS FUCKING ASS.

As far as musicianship goes, Jimmy kicks Bills ass out of the water. And at the end of the day, when it comes to these two, that's all i really give a fuck about.

JustAGhostChild
01-16-2011, 10:43 PM
A spiritualistic former drug addict,a current drug addicted farmer,an egoistic,cocky,whiny,overeacting Jesus-freak,and...whats James?Oh right,untalented

Rider
01-16-2011, 10:59 PM
It's like the whole Brian Wilson thing all over again, only with much less talent.

bahnzah
01-16-2011, 11:14 PM
does that mean we can look forward to an album of billy rapping over a t808 and samples from siamese dream?

JustAGhostChild
01-16-2011, 11:19 PM
does that mean we can look forward to an album of billy rapping over a t808 and samples from siamese dream?

To quote my father on the prospect of having another kid
"No no no,that is wrong on so many FUCKING levels"

Catherine Wheel
01-16-2011, 11:32 PM
Brian Wilson has some form of schizophrenia doesn't he? It's not really comparable. Jimmy at this point is just eccentric.

bahnzah
01-16-2011, 11:34 PM
To quote my father on the prospect of having another kid
"No no no,that is wrong on so many FUCKING levels"

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Elvis The Fat Years
01-17-2011, 01:33 AM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4013/smileya.gif

Elvis The Fat Years
01-17-2011, 01:48 AM
Does anyone think for themselves anymore? Jesus titty fucking Christ.

stumpycat
01-17-2011, 02:53 AM
heh

I've seen it happen countless times where former hardcore drug addicts or alcoholics simply trade in one addictive behavior (their drugs) for another (zealous spiritual or religious practice.) Like their former drug-taking behavior, the more 'benign" behavior they replace it with is also on a more intense or extreme level than the average person.

Anyway, all this guy did was tell him the obvious...leave the pressure cooker that was SP, which will free you to pursue your own creative interests and have time with your family, and you will have a more "balanced" life. :rolleyes:

Astur
01-17-2011, 03:40 AM
what the hell there's an insanely awesome song playing in my head

Shallowed
01-17-2011, 06:26 AM
No wonder Billy came to terms with the departure so easily.

Mo
01-17-2011, 07:12 AM
Fucking drugs.

rudi
01-17-2011, 07:14 AM
Shaman Durek? O_O Hipster. Socialite. Shaman.

Unless I'm mistaken, accepting money for one's work as a shaman goes against the root of shamanism in general.

Either way, gag.

Trotskilicious
01-17-2011, 09:19 AM
A spiritualistic former drug addict,a current drug addicted farmer,an egoistic,cocky,whiny,overeacting Jesus-freak,and...whats James?Oh right,untalented

commas usually have spaces after them.

Rider
01-17-2011, 09:57 AM
Shaman Durek? O_O Hipster. Socialite. Shaman.

Unless I'm mistaken, accepting money for one's work as a shaman goes against the root of shamanism in general.

Either way, gag.


I'm pretty sure Shaman is basically a fictional title that has been over used.

Rider
01-17-2011, 09:59 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman

Like I said pretty much made up word to generically describe one type of religious figure.

Rairun
01-17-2011, 11:10 AM
Anyway, all this guy did was tell him the obvious...leave the pressure cooker that was SP, which will free you to pursue your own creative interests and have time with your family, and you will have a more "balanced" life. :rolleyes:

Yeah, anyone could have told him this. No brainwashing necessary, just common sense. (Not that Jimmy's beliefs aren't crazy or anything.)

Rider
01-17-2011, 11:14 AM
I keep trying to justify all this by looking at how artists like The Beatles and Townsend hooked up with religious nutjobs. The difference though they were producing some of the most amazing music every written, Billy and Jimmy seem to be distracted by this stuff and producing total crap rather then being inspired by it.

reprise85
01-17-2011, 01:00 PM
what the hell there's an insanely awesome song playing in my head

it's a sign

Trotskilicious
01-17-2011, 02:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Shaman is basically a fictional title that has been over used.

shaman and pagan are common nouns that people attempt to make proper.

JustAGhostChild
01-17-2011, 05:19 PM
commas usually have spaces after them.

In my country of origin this is the way we were taught to type

rudi
01-17-2011, 08:15 PM
In my country of origin this is the way we were taught to type

damn your entire COUNTRY types incorrectly?

JustAGhostChild
01-17-2011, 08:55 PM
damn your entire COUNTRY types incorrectly?

Im not sure it might have just been my class,as my professor was kind of a...a stupid bitch.Old habits die hard

Irridescent Fairysex
01-17-2011, 10:49 PM
how am I supposed to meditate if this track is making me laugh my ass off?

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 12:00 AM
In my country of origin this is the way we were taught to type

Welcome to America!

Rider
01-18-2011, 01:30 AM
In Russia comma types you.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-18-2011, 02:19 AM
great civilizations
absolutely groundbreaking
come on come on come on
la la la la la

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 02:45 AM
meanwhile james is hanging out with a hanson

Space Girl 1979
01-18-2011, 11:46 AM
meanwhile james is hanging out with a hanson

Welcome to a year or two ago? :banging:

He's back with a Perfect Circle + solo record with members from Beirut contributing.

Also Tinted Windows > Billy Corgan's Smashing Pumpkins

samuel redman
01-18-2011, 11:48 AM
now you know that's not true

slunken
01-18-2011, 11:55 AM
i'd have to agree

also lol @ people (paranoid) trying to like the durek track solely based on the drumming.

chris1979
01-18-2011, 12:06 PM
heh

I've seen it happen countless times where former hardcore drug addicts or alcoholics simply trade in one addictive behavior (their drugs) for another (zealous spiritual or religious practice.) Like their former drug-taking behavior, the more 'benign" behavior they replace it with is also on a more intense or extreme level than the average person.

Anyway, all this guy did was tell him the obvious...leave the pressure cooker that was SP, which will free you to pursue your own creative interests and have time with your family, and you will have a more "balanced" life. :rolleyes:

I think you pretty much nailed it with that one. It's the same old simple formula that sects use to suck people in. Worst thing is that it worked on both Billy and Jimmy. So far I always though that Jimmy is over the hill.

Rider
01-18-2011, 12:15 PM
Tinted Windows is better then anything Bolly has down post Zwan.

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 12:31 PM
Welcome to a year or two ago? :banging:

sorry lesbot, i tend to keep current with things that people actually listen to.

only thing lower than hanging out with a hanson is hanging out with Tool-lite.

Rider
01-18-2011, 12:40 PM
sorry lesbot, i tend to keep current with things that people actually listen to.

only thing lower than hanging out with a hanson is hanging out with Tool-lite.

I thought having to pay a 19 year old kid who can't play to be in your in your band was as low as you can get.

thomas_bland
01-18-2011, 12:47 PM
s..s..s..s..shaman

Space Girl 1979
01-18-2011, 01:22 PM
I thought having to pay a 19 year old kid who can't play to be in your in your band was as low as you can get.

Pretty much.

Space Girl 1979
01-18-2011, 01:22 PM
sorry lesbot, i tend to keep current with things that people actually listen to.

only thing lower than hanging out with a hanson is hanging out with Tool-lite.

Hey everyone. Look at this idiot. :rofl:

rudi
01-18-2011, 05:09 PM
only thing lower than hanging out with a hanson is hanging out with Tool-lite.

lol wut

paranoid
01-18-2011, 05:49 PM
i'd have to agree

also lol @ people (paranoid) trying to like the durek track solely based on the drumming.

Fuck off, it's excellent.

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 05:55 PM
lol wut

APC is Tool-lite. Is that statement really that complicated?

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 05:56 PM
but yes the only thing lower than hanging out with Tool for Sissies is hanging out with Billy Corgan, so you got me there.

rudi
01-18-2011, 06:05 PM
APC is Tool-lite. Is that statement really that complicated?

The fact that you have a problem with both Tool and APC is what caused my laughter

Thx for the explanation tho

JustAGhostChild
01-18-2011, 07:00 PM
Also Tinted Windows > Billy Corgan's Smashing Pumpkins

Tinted Windows is better then anything Bolly has down post Zwan.


YOU DON'T MEAN THAT. TAKE IT BACK.

JokeyLoki
01-18-2011, 08:58 PM
http://cdn.wowction.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/shaman-pvp-guide-wow.png

Karl Connor
01-18-2011, 09:15 PM
I always thought people treated Jimmy with kiddy gloves when it came to the breakup. yes I understand he's 10x more likeable and bearable than billy but people kind of brush it off like 'oh yeah billys over her chanting mantras to the earth mother. but Jimmy, man, here he is just trying to make music and he can't get in sync with this indigo crystal bullshit.'

paranoid
01-18-2011, 09:38 PM
I always thought people treated Jimmy with kiddy gloves when it came to the breakup. yes I understand he's 10x more likeable and bearable than billy but people kind of brush it off like 'oh yeah billys over her chanting mantras to the earth mother. but Jimmy, man, here he is just trying to make music and he can't get in sync with this indigo crystal bullshit.'

Hey, at least Jimmy still has fucking talent and isn't using his 'spirituality' to help him cover up and deny his diminishing talent and relevance.. which is the path Billy has chosen.

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 09:48 PM
The fact that you have a problem with both Tool and APC is what caused my laughter

Thx for the explanation tho

Sweet.

MAYYYNAAARRRDDDD :rockon:

you fucking dinosaur

Karl Connor
01-18-2011, 10:08 PM
Hey, at least Jimmy still has fucking talent and isn't using his 'spirituality' to help him cover up and deny his diminishing talent and relevance.. which is the path Billy has chosen.

yeah but isn't 'talent' a little too subjective? if this skysaw thing blows tbk songs out of the water then I can understand. but I don't think people think about whatever went on between them in a reasonable way

Rider
01-18-2011, 10:20 PM
yeah but isn't 'talent' a little too subjective? if this skysaw thing blows tbk songs out of the water then I can understand. but I don't think people think about whatever went on between them in a reasonable way

We already heard the entire album. It's good better then TBK nothing, amazing though.

That's part of what really worries me about Jimmy, the fact that he put out a solo album no one knows about and then 4 weeks later changes the band name.

I know he keeps saying his life is positive no but to me it looks like a chaotic mess.

paranoid
01-18-2011, 11:24 PM
We already heard the entire album. It's good better then TBK nothing, amazing though.

That's part of what really worries me about Jimmy, the fact that he put out a solo album no one knows about and then 4 weeks later changes the band name.

I know he keeps saying his life is positive no but to me it looks like a chaotic mess.

I fear this shaman character is a huge negative influence on his life.. telling him things are good and better now when they were just fine before. I also fear that this can only lead to some terrible things down the line. It really fucking blows, because had this character not entered their lives a couple years ago, there is the possibility that these two would still be making music together.

Just some horrible negative shit disguising itself as positive.. all the while he's a 'shaman' charging fans to listen to his meditations that feature renowned alt rock veteran jimmy chamberlin on drums. I wonder what he charges his celebs for sessions of him bull shitting them.

The 'shaman' commented on HU. Apparently, it was Billy who first went to shaman durek, and it was Billy who introduced Jimmy to the Shaman.

remember billy stating in RS that he went to see a shaman, and he broke down crying because he knew what his child hood dog looked like? it appears he was seeing durek.

So once again, we can blame Billy for fucking Jimmy up.

paranoid
01-18-2011, 11:36 PM
here was shaman durek's response to criticism on HU:

I listened to all of your comments and i can say i am not surprised nor am I offended..It makes sense why fans such as yourselves would be upset that Jimmy left SP. And even though he gives me credit, I am just a messenger for his spirit that watches over him. Also for those of you who know nothing about me, the path of a Shaman is not one that you just wake up and decide to become. You are chosen at birth and you go through many tests and challenges that most people would crumble or couldn’t handle in dealing with..You have ever tried living in a jungle ????…It gives you a different perspective on life. And yes it is true, I have done drugs when i was young and it was something i needed to go through which i must say it has helped me in understanding people and addictions. Billy is a wonderful soul, smart, bright, and deeply insightful. And Jimmy is a wonderful being who has come out of many challenges of his own to be who is today. I would hope that all that they have brought to you in artistry would give you the ability to know that you can accomplish your dreams and know that everyone’s path continues on. Billy has his own mind and so does Jimmy. If you feel that I have brainwashed Jimmy, then that is your belief and i am not responsible for what you choose to believe. I am however responsible to living truth and helping people to grow and stay connected to their core. P.S., Billy introduced me to Jimmy and i thank him everyday for they are both wonderful and beautiful inspiring beings of great power. You can learn something from them.

Trotskilicious
01-18-2011, 11:40 PM
i like drugs there's no shame in drugs

Dogfighter28
01-18-2011, 11:40 PM
couldn't handle in dealing with

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 12:27 AM
I know he keeps saying his life is positive no but to me it looks like a chaotic mess.

Word.

I can't remember who said it... a famous musician quote recently about those who are all talk can't play shit...

... well I kinda feel the same way about Jimmy and Billy these days in terms of their states of minds and "positivity".... if you have to always say out loud that everything is fine and everything is love and everything is god and everything is good vibrations, I can only imagine what shit they're really dealing with (or not dealing with as the case may be).

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 12:31 AM
Also, seriously guys... does anyone else not pick up on how fucking REAL and a little scary the entire "therapy" interview was now from Vieuphoria?

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Once again, James being purely silly and light hearted about an intense bad situation (kill the tension with laughter, etc).... D'arcy being extremely realistic to the point that no one would ever believe that she was being openly snarky about what really goes on in the band... Jimmy feeling alienated emotionally (and dealing with it by being obviously stoned out of his gourd).... and of course Billy side stepping the question by attempting to be charmingly obtuse, which was all and good when he was making good music and looked cute as a button... but who gives a shit about a washed out bald rock star when they go on and on with tired metaphors and rambling emptiness.

Once again man... from the get go James and D'arcy were the only two stable members of the band imho... and fuck any of you going on abotu D'arcy and cocaine... she was sober and dealing with her own bull shit long before Jimmy and Billy, and I guarantee that's why she walked out of the band first and foremost... because she knew she needed to go take care of herself before any "rock and roll" obligation.

I mean for christ's sake, she went out to the middle of nowhere to get away from it all... meanwhile Billy and Jimmy just throws themselves head long into bull shit project after another... and the only person holding true to any kind of sense of self that hasn't really wavered from the beginning in terms of music and work ethic, imho, is James.

James is the clear winner in all of this.... D'arcy turns out to be a victim of sorts who was smart enough to bail and get help for herself... meanwhile Jimmy and Billy are lost forever.

Fuck it man.

Rider
01-19-2011, 01:19 AM
Let' go over the list of very basic things Jimmy seems to not even realize are problems right now:

He gave the band an insanely generic name that was literally imposable to look up.

He has no web site.

He's so inept he seems to not even understand how basic and easy using a service like Facebook would be to tell people he has a new album.

He's so inept that he can't even seem to be able to just tell someone to create even a basic web site for him for free.

He's so inept he seems to not even be able to inform a site like Hipsters United of anything he is doing.

And worst of all. He is so inept that after a month of people not being able to find the album or even knowing it was released. What is the only problem on this whole list he deals with. The idiot changes the bands name a month AFTER they put out their first album.

Sorry I don't see any evidence that things are positive in his life. I see an out of control junky that has moved on from drugs to a new form of addiction.

stumpycat
01-19-2011, 01:21 AM
Yeah, I guess now that I've bothered to think about it, D'arcy leaving (voluntarily?) was an instance of her waking up one day out of her coked-out, collagen-injected, celebrity-flirting lifestyle (remember Mickey O'Rourke?), looking in the mirror, and going, "OH MY GOD, WHAT HAS BECOME OF ME?!?!" And then she ran far, far away.

James seemed to possess the type of personality most conducive to letting all the shit roll off his back like a duck in the rain.

I still find it difficult to take the Vieuphoria video segment seriously, though...I mean, the things that they are all apparently finding issue with. They seem so petty. Is that just the case of little things starting to get on the nerves when you've developed a long-term intimate relationship with another person?

wHATcOLOR
01-19-2011, 02:35 AM
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shaman durek performing an exorcism on the dude from hanging w/ mr. cooper :erm:

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 02:53 AM
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shaman durek performing an exorcism on the dude from hanging w/ mr. cooper :erm:

Fuck This and TBK.... I'd pay good money to see Billy and Jimmy in a session with this guy.... lol

Rider
01-19-2011, 03:54 AM
We haven't actually recorded anything yet either. Our guitarist wrote the musical aspects of the songs including the melodies. I just need to know this so I can start rewriting the lyric


This place gets the weirdest fucking spam bots. I guess this one will post a bunch of stuff before it starts dropping links everywhere.

Astur
01-19-2011, 05:44 AM
lolbots

Dogfighter28
01-19-2011, 09:10 AM
About 3:45 when he says "you can't scare me" he eerily reminds me of Bill.

samuel redman
01-19-2011, 10:04 AM
Jimmy and Billy are perfect together. always have been. always will. apart something just seems to be missing.

them.

hnibos
01-19-2011, 10:19 AM
del

arCHI
01-19-2011, 11:11 AM
Also, seriously guys... does anyone else not pick up on how fucking REAL and a little scary the entire "therapy" interview was now from Vieuphoria?

i have to say i agree. especially billy's portion, he obviously is implying the same thing that he openly says today, which is, "i carried the band." which is, i think most of us will now agree, bullshit.

maybe at the heart of all of these problems is the fact that billy is in fact a duck.

samuel redman
01-19-2011, 11:55 AM
meh. who cares

Trotskilicious
01-19-2011, 02:07 PM
at the end of the day everyone knows tool sucks

hnibos
01-19-2011, 02:18 PM
lol you dont like tool and apc what are you doing with your life

samuel redman
01-19-2011, 02:44 PM
i dont like either band so sue me

Trotskilicious
01-19-2011, 02:49 PM
actually only totally clueless dweebs like tool/apc at this point.

you know, those people who dug a hole and hid in it back in 1997 and still won't come out?

samuel redman
01-19-2011, 03:20 PM
i'm of the third eye blind hole digger variety

Eulogy
01-19-2011, 03:24 PM
here was shaman durek's response to criticism on HU:

I listened to all of your comments and i can say i am not surprised nor am I offended..It makes sense why fans such as yourselves would be upset that Jimmy left SP. And even though he gives me credit, I am just a messenger for his spirit that watches over him. Also for those of you who know nothing about me, the path of a Shaman is not one that you just wake up and decide to become. You are chosen at birth and you go through many tests and challenges that most people would crumble or couldn’t handle in dealing with..You have ever tried living in a jungle ????…It gives you a different perspective on life. And yes it is true, I have done drugs when i was young and it was something i needed to go through which i must say it has helped me in understanding people and addictions. Billy is a wonderful soul, smart, bright, and deeply insightful. And Jimmy is a wonderful being who has come out of many challenges of his own to be who is today. I would hope that all that they have brought to you in artistry would give you the ability to know that you can accomplish your dreams and know that everyone’s path continues on. Billy has his own mind and so does Jimmy. If you feel that I have brainwashed Jimmy, then that is your belief and i am not responsible for what you choose to believe. I am however responsible to living truth and helping people to grow and stay connected to their core. P.S., Billy introduced me to Jimmy and i thank him everyday for they are both wonderful and beautiful inspiring beings of great power. You can learn something from them.


come on jimmy

samuel redman
01-19-2011, 03:25 PM
sigh i know

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 04:14 PM
actually only totally clueless dweebs like tool/apc at this point.

you know, those people who dug a hole and hid in it back in 1997 and still won't come out?

Ok Billy. You can fuck off now. :cry:

slunken
01-19-2011, 04:23 PM
I venture that's how rush fans are/were treated

Morlock
01-19-2011, 04:43 PM
Ah, shit. This is so annoying. These guys were my heroes. But the fucking Shaman is right. Billy and Jimmy certainly taught me to seperate the music from the musicians.

wHATcOLOR
01-19-2011, 04:52 PM
here was shaman durek's response to criticism on HU:

I listened to all of your comments and i can say i am not surprised nor am I offended..It makes sense why fans such as yourselves would be upset that Jimmy left SP. And even though he gives me credit, I am just a messenger for his spirit that watches over him. Also for those of you who know nothing about me, the path of a Shaman is not one that you just wake up and decide to become. You are chosen at birth and you go through many tests and challenges that most people would crumble or couldn’t handle in dealing with..You have ever tried living in a jungle ????…It gives you a different perspective on life. And yes it is true, I have done drugs when i was young and it was something i needed to go through which i must say it has helped me in understanding people and addictions. Billy is a wonderful soul, smart, bright, and deeply insightful. And Jimmy is a wonderful being who has come out of many challenges of his own to be who is today. I would hope that all that they have brought to you in artistry would give you the ability to know that you can accomplish your dreams and know that everyone’s path continues on. Billy has his own mind and so does Jimmy. If you feel that I have brainwashed Jimmy, then that is your belief and i am not responsible for what you choose to believe. I am however responsible to living truth and helping people to grow and stay connected to their core. P.S., Billy introduced me to Jimmy and i thank him everyday for they are both wonderful and beautiful inspiring beings of great power. You can learn something from them.


his main point is pretty reasonable. "if you want to blame me, that's ok, i can't control it. but i didn't make any decision for him. people make their own decisions"

cork_soaker
01-19-2011, 05:19 PM
have you ever tried living in a jungle ????

cork_soaker
01-19-2011, 05:19 PM
it gives you a different perspective on life

cork_soaker
01-19-2011, 05:21 PM
real voodoo comes from white light

Trotskilicious
01-19-2011, 05:30 PM
Ok Billy. You can fuck off now. :cry:

haha what? i mean i figured you lived in some kind of cultural vacuum already, but seriously? Tool? :noway:

Trotskilicious
01-19-2011, 05:31 PM
i mean tool is so idiotic, everything sounds the same and it's basically prog cock rock which must be one of the worst things ever

RockLobster
01-19-2011, 05:38 PM
plus maynard is gay.

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 05:47 PM
i mean tool is so idiotic, everything sounds the same and it's basically prog cock rock which must be one of the worst things ever

I can only assume you have so much to say on the internet because it's hard to meet people in real life with that cock in your mouth and dildo up your ass hole.

Catherine Wheel
01-19-2011, 05:55 PM
I went through a Tool phase. Don't care for them at all anymore. APC are a great band though. Still listen to them from time to time.

RockLobster
01-19-2011, 05:58 PM
i feel really cool when i'm cruising in my ride pumpin stinkfist. all the chicks dig it

RockLobster
01-19-2011, 05:59 PM
I went through a Tool phase. Don't care for them at all anymore. APC are a great band though. Still listen to them from time to time.

what about system of a down, do you still listen to them ?

Catherine Wheel
01-19-2011, 06:10 PM
Besides Sugar and Chop Suey I never really cared for them. But to be honest I didn't give them much of a chance / listen.

Catherine Wheel
01-19-2011, 06:26 PM
I think one of the reasons I grew out of Tool is because I grew out of alternative metal in general. Chevelle, Staind, early Incubus. It was all just a phase for me.

Trotskilicious
01-19-2011, 06:27 PM
I can only assume you have so much to say on the internet because it's hard to meet people in real life with that cock in your mouth and dildo up your ass hole.

Wow what a predictable comeback. If I didn't expect Tool fans to resort to crudity and homophobia when their Mangods were insulted I would be very naive indeed.

Weird how you ignored all the personal insults about how you're annoying and you look like a lesbian/dude but you're all up in arms about Tool being a "smart" band for dumb people. C'est la vie, I suppose.

MAYYYYNAAARRDDDD :rockon:

cork_soaker
01-19-2011, 06:35 PM
learnt to swim

samuel redman
01-19-2011, 06:35 PM
Sugar is the worst song i have ever heard. dear god

jammin
01-19-2011, 06:46 PM
so i wonder how much that leeching shaman charged jimmy to inform him he should ruin his career

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 07:13 PM
Wow what a predictable comeback. If I didn't expect Tool fans to resort to crudity and homophobia when their Mangods were insulted I would be very naive indeed.

Weird how you ignored all the personal insults about how you're annoying and you look like a lesbian/dude but you're all up in arms about Tool being a "smart" band for dumb people. C'est la vie, I suppose.

MAYYYYNAAARRDDDD :rockon:

You're so easily fuckable. :smoke:

RenewRevive
01-19-2011, 08:26 PM
fucking hell jimmy. i mean, what the fuck.

i mean, all james ever did was write a trippy song about his dog. come back james!

soniclovenoize
01-19-2011, 09:16 PM
ITT: People who speak like they actually fucking know the guy. :rolleyes:

stumpycat
01-19-2011, 10:44 PM
I still enjoy Tool and alternative metal in general (but not really Chevelle, Staind, etc.) Tool is heavy, rhythmic, tribal, atmospheric, slightly trippy, and dark in tone--pretty much a formula for music that I will necessarily like. Their first album Undertow is just straightforward, raw, and heavy, which is generally always the great thing about first albums in general. I know that some of the stuff is up its own arse (especially the later albums) but I can well enough ignore those excesses. Also, I don't think I've heard a band that can actually accurately capture that exact "Tool" sound with appropriate depth and heaviness.

Space Girl 1979
01-19-2011, 10:45 PM
ITT: People who speak like they actually fucking know the guy. :rolleyes:

At this point, I think the pumpkin fan base as a collective consciousness knows Jimmy and Billy better than they know themselves (outside perspective and all).

I'm seriously, how many are surprised anymore by anything that's happened since the reunion... it's all clock work at this point... and if anything, our worst fears realized every step of the way.

paranoid
01-20-2011, 12:13 AM
sure, but I don't think Jimmy's life is a chaotic mess and he's back to his addict tendencies. All based on his PR with his new band, that is a bit far fetched. We haven't seen much of him and don't know what he's dealing with on a daily level (he is a family man with a very sick child, btw).. so it's a bit weird to say he's on a downward spiral based on his interactions with a shaman and his pr treatment of 'THIS.'

But then again, I know about as much as anyone else and may be completely wrong. If you asked me 6 months ago what I thought he was up to, I would have never guessed he was taking this guys life philosophy so seriously.

Reyngel
01-20-2011, 12:30 AM
fucking hell jimmy. i mean, what the fuck.

i mean, all james ever did was write a trippy song about his dog. come back james!


I think James got out at exactly the right time.

-He saw the major success of the band through from beginning to end
-He stuck it out through Jimmy's overdose and Jonathan's death
-He put up with Billy's bullshit
-He took advantage of the band's success and released a solo record
-He stuck with the plan to revive the Pumpkins when Jimmy returned
-He didn't throw any public fits or slander the band to the media
-He played the final show, left, and that was that

-And no weird fanatical tirades, obsessions or soapbox missions that we were exposed to


I miss James.

paranoid
01-20-2011, 12:55 AM
I think James got out at exactly the right time.

-He saw the major success of the band through from beginning to end
-He stuck it out through Jimmy's overdose and Jonathan's death
-He put up with Billy's bullshit
-He took advantage of the band's success and released a solo record
-He stuck with the plan to revive the Pumpkins when Jimmy returned
-He didn't throw any public fits or slander the band to the media
-He played the final show, left, and that was that

-And no weird fanatical tirades, obsessions or soapbox missions that we were exposed to


I miss James.

Here here. Over the past decade, I feel time has really revealed why James couldn't stay 'loyal' to this band. I would have flown the coop a lot earlier than he did had I been in his shoes.

Also, time has so far not revealed any evidence that James is the asshole Billy Corgan has made him out to be.

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 12:57 AM
I'm telling you man... James is the mother fucking man.

I listen to Let it Come Down whenever I need something mellow and heart warming and it ALWAYS makes me feel a heck of a lot better for having done so.

Sure, it's not the record for all occasions or strays very far from the over all mood / message / song format from song to song.... but fuck if it doesn't do its job well.

... kinda like James did with the Pumpkins for so long.

It's really a great metaphor really... and just think how insanely positive it all is, especially in contrast to what Billy was going through at the time and the kind of wild, manic music he was releasing.

I've said it once and I'll say it again.... James and D'arcy were the anchor to Billy's chaotic creative ambitions... even if that's ALL they were (which I doubt)... it'd be enough to warrant a shit ton more respect than Billy's given them through out the years in terms of what they contributed to the original line up.

... but back to the topic at hand, yeah... I'm personally glad James isn't having to deal with anymore absolutely undeserved bullshit (he always seems to have a great time with APC, and if you youtube it, you'll see he's still pulling the same silly humor on stage these days).... and good on D'arcy for getting out of the scene... I'm telling you, just got a strong feeling she was smart and quit before things got bad.

Anyhow.... blah blah

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 12:59 AM
james is the least essential person in the band if the band includes billy, jimmy, and a cardboard cut out of darcy

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 12:59 AM
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Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 01:00 AM
james is the least essential person in the band if the band includes billy, jimmy, and a cardboard cut out of darcy

Your contributions are as empty as the pride of having such a high post count.

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 01:03 AM
i think you'll find there's no pride in a postcount, should i register an alias?

paranoid
01-20-2011, 01:07 AM
I listened to LICD for the first time in a while a few months ago, and was actually struck by how decent a record it was... never really hit me like that about 10 years ago.

Also evidenced that yes, James can actually play the guitar. who knew. He just couldn't play Billy Corgan written parts like Billy Corgan could play them.. and no shit! It was nice though when he was allowed to keep some of his parts in the SP songs.

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 01:12 AM
i think you'll find there's no pride in a postcount, should i register an alias?

Yes, and permanently delete your Trots account to prove that you don't have pride in it.

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 01:15 AM
I listened to LICD for the first time in a while a few months ago, and was actually struck by how decent a record it was... never really hit me like that about 10 years ago.

Also evidenced that yes, James can actually play the guitar. who knew. He just couldn't play Billy Corgan written parts like Billy Corgan could play them.. and no shit! It was nice though when he was allowed to keep some of his parts in the SP songs.

What has always struck me about James' solo work vs. Billy's is how textural it all is... layered with guitars, and strings, and organ just... so.... while Billy's work is always so dry and basic.

If James' new solo work ends up as textured as it was in the past, I'll be convinced forever that James was indeed a huge influence on the original pumpkins layering of sound... because I've seen the same kind of thing happen with other bands and solo projects, where you can tell the distinct things they each bring once they all do their own stuff (radiohead is a great example of this.... tool too).

... but yeah, hopefully James will be inspired to finish up his recent solo work and maybe do more. I think he could do it full time if he wanted.

wHATcOLOR
01-20-2011, 03:21 AM
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he's still got it!!

slunken
01-20-2011, 05:40 AM
so this threads about tool now? good grief.

RenewRevive
01-20-2011, 08:23 AM
LICD is a nice mellow record. I play it every few months if i feel down for any reason. i hope james finally puts out a second solo effort also.

btw nice clip. james' onstage banter is cool.

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 10:52 AM
What has always struck me about James' solo work vs. Billy's is how textural it all is... layered with guitars, and strings, and organ just... so.... while Billy's work is always so dry and basic.


:erm:

I totally disagree. James can't write half as good as billster.

samuel redman
01-20-2011, 11:21 AM
he's still got it!!

hahaha!!!

arCHI
01-20-2011, 11:29 AM
:erm:

I totally disagree. James can't write half as good as billster.

james and billy's writing is like apples and oranjes (lol). but seriously, too different to compare. that being said billy is definitely better in the grand scheme of things, but for little pop numbers james holds his own.

i always wondered if the textural quality of licd was the effect of james, or of good studio musicians...

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 11:38 AM
i was also disagreeing because really the pumpkins albums are billy solo albums. lots of layering with strings and organs etc.

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 11:39 AM
speaking of organs...


rhinoceros (organ solo) vs rhinoceros (RTS)

which is better?

cork_soaker
01-20-2011, 11:41 AM
organ solos don't count

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 11:43 AM
your life doesn't count. <for shit>

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 11:44 AM
you don't know how to count

Cool As Ice Cream
01-20-2011, 11:50 AM
why JC beffed the hand

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 11:54 AM
upping my post count.

Rider
01-20-2011, 12:08 PM
organ solos don't count

That's what she said.


***

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 12:28 PM
Yes, and permanently delete your Trots account to prove that you don't have pride in it.

No, since it obviously bothers you for some reason.

slunken
01-20-2011, 12:38 PM
is this now the devi ever board? sources would lead me to believe so?

Rider
01-20-2011, 12:46 PM
is this now the devi ever board? sources would lead me to believe so?

The Trots trolling every thread act is getting so fucking boring.

soniclovenoize
01-20-2011, 02:37 PM
speaking of organs...


rhinoceros (organ solo) vs rhinoceros (RTS)

which is better?

They're both from the RTS. :rolleyes:

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 02:41 PM
No, since it obviously bothers you for some reason.

pussy :rofl:

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 03:03 PM
The Trots trolling every thread act is getting so fucking boring.

funny you say that after i trolled you

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 03:07 PM
funny you say that after i trolled you

You're not even a troll really... more like that dog from the old warner brothers cartoons who is too stupid to realize no one wants them around.

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 03:08 PM
though i wasn't really trolling you Rider, you're unbelievably tiresome. every thread whatever the topic is it sucks, the board sucks, everyone here sucks, everything's boring, etc.

i know you think my act is tiresome but at least i'm getting some laffs out of it. you're just a bored, apathetic sack of crap.

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 03:09 PM
You're not even a troll really... more like that dog from the old warner brothers cartoons who is too stupid to realize no one wants them around.

haha so now you're the spokesperson for everyone now that you've been posting here a couple weeks

samuel redman
01-20-2011, 03:09 PM
and getting closer to 100,000

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 03:09 PM
though i wasn't really trolling you are unbelievably tiresome. every thread whatever the topic is it sucks, board sucks, everyone here sucks, everything's boring, etc.

fuck off, i know you think my act is tiresome but at least i'm getting some laffs out of it, you're just a bored, apathetic sack of crap.

All too easy. :rofl:

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 03:10 PM
yes the rofl smiley really drives home your point

you have to realize i don't really give a shit about what you think.

Space Girl 1979
01-20-2011, 03:31 PM
yes the rofl smiley really drives home your point

you have to realize i don't really give a shit about what you think.

Then prove it and stop replying to my posts. :smoke:

Rider
01-20-2011, 03:45 PM
though i wasn't really trolling you Rider, you're unbelievably tiresome. every thread whatever the topic is it sucks, the board sucks, everyone here sucks, everything's boring, etc.

i know you think my act is tiresome but at least i'm getting some laffs out of it. you're just a bored, apathetic sack of crap.



You troll every single female member of this board. It's obvious you are a stoned and lonely person.

Really if all you can do get your jollies is sit alone in a room making fun of girls on the internet you might as well off yourself. But hey don't mind me your getting some laughs out it.

Kahlo
01-20-2011, 03:46 PM
FUCK ALL THE HATERS. TROTS IS THE MAN

Kahlo
01-20-2011, 03:47 PM
You troll every single female member of this board. It's obvious you are a stoned and lonely person.

Really if all you can do get your jollies is sit alone in a room making fun of girls on the internet you might as well off yourself. But hey don't mind me your getting some laughs out it.

Fucking hell, for such a long term poster you have been acting like a butt hurt crybaby all day. I expected better from you and your sexy sexy avatar.

slunken
01-20-2011, 04:18 PM
thank you for being the voice of reason kahlo.

i think devi ever's presence on the board is just bringing the butt-rockers out of the woodwork.

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 04:53 PM
Rider, I'm at work you dumbshit. I don't troll "all the women" i troll EVERYONE.

and part of my rage has to do with the fact that I'm not smoking mad blunts with my niggaz right now

idiot.

Trotskilicious
01-20-2011, 04:54 PM
FUCK ALL THE HATERS. TROTS IS THE MAN

HIGH FIVES

Kahlo
01-20-2011, 05:18 PM
HIGH FIVES

warm fuzzy feeling inside instead of deadness

thank you for being the voice of reason kahlo.


NOW I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THIS SITE IS DEAD

slunken
01-20-2011, 05:24 PM
back to the o-board/blamo with ye, then

RockLobster
01-20-2011, 05:34 PM
They're both from the RTS. :rolleyes:

ah you got me, maybe you should make a real poll.

soniclovenoize
01-20-2011, 08:36 PM
ah you got me, maybe you should make a real poll.

No prob!


Ok....



http://forums.netphoria.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif

I got nothin.

stumpycat
01-21-2011, 12:42 AM
I think Devi Ever is bringing the testosterone...and it's bringing out the wolves. Seriously...she's bringing the male energy. :D

Space Girl 1979
01-21-2011, 01:17 AM
I think Devi Ever is bringing the testosterone...and it's bringing out the wolves. Seriously...she's bringing the male energy. :D

I won't argue. There sure are some pretty big pussies here. :rofl:

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 01:25 AM
so what's up with this

Private Message: Can you please delete my account?
12-20-2010, 01:31 AM
Space Girl 1979
i paid money for this?




Posts: 260
Can you please delete my account?
Thanks.

Space Girl 1979
01-21-2011, 03:02 AM
so what's up with this

Private Message: Can you please delete my account?
12-20-2010, 01:31 AM
Space Girl 1979
i paid money for this?




Posts: 260
Can you please delete my account?
Thanks.

lol... admin'd

I thought you ran this place at the time.... and at the time I wanted my account deleted.

Thanks for being a jack ass and posting my private PM's rather than asking me to clarify about them privately (they were from a month ago for those playing at home).

Truly, it only adds to what an incredible contributor you are to these forums and discussion that you feel the need to stoop to such levels to try and garner a rise from myself, and the absolutely-could-give-a-shit-less viewing audience. :rofl:

Do everyone a favor and shoot yourself in the face, because it'd be almost as entertaining as how pathetic your presence is on netphoria.

Kahlo
01-21-2011, 04:37 AM
http://drunkweeaboo.com/img/reactions/FLAWLESS%20VICTORY.jpg

Cool As Ice Cream
01-21-2011, 04:44 AM
oh no she's crying now.

but also laughing because she doesn't care LOOOOOOOOOOOOL (extra convincing)!

memories_unwind
01-21-2011, 06:00 AM
you guyz r the cruel.

mickyshambles
01-21-2011, 06:04 AM
lol... admin'd

I thought you ran this place at the time.... and at the time I wanted my account deleted.

Thanks for being a jack ass and posting my private PM's rather than asking me to clarify about them privately (they were from a month ago for those playing at home).

Truly, it only adds to what an incredible contributor you are to these forums and discussion that you feel the need to stoop to such levels to try and garner a rise from myself, and the absolutely-could-give-a-shit-less viewing audience. :rofl:

Do everyone a favor and shoot yourself in the face, because it'd be almost as entertaining as how pathetic your presence is on netphoria.

pathetic.

Cool As Ice Cream
01-21-2011, 06:37 AM
http://drunkweeaboo.com/img/reactions/FLAWLESS%20VICTORY.jpg

http://prayman.atspace.com/pm3-15.jpg (http://prayman.atspace.com)

Astur
01-21-2011, 08:58 AM
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=13150,filename=mask003.jpg

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 09:02 AM
lol... admin'd

I thought you ran this place at the time.... and at the time I wanted my account deleted.

Thanks for being a jack ass and posting my private PM's rather than asking me to clarify about them privately (they were from a month ago for those playing at home).

Truly, it only adds to what an incredible contributor you are to these forums and discussion that you feel the need to stoop to such levels to try and garner a rise from myself, and the absolutely-could-give-a-shit-less viewing audience. :rofl:

Do everyone a favor and shoot yourself in the face, because it'd be almost as entertaining as how pathetic your presence is on netphoria.

i just wonder why someone who hates this place not only keeps coming back but donated too, are you that weak willed that you can't even stop going to a internet forum? Big pussies, indeed.

And before you turn it around on me, I don't want to quit and I don't hate this place.

RockLobster
01-21-2011, 09:40 AM
ya you like to wallow in the muck too huh

Space Girl 1979
01-21-2011, 11:26 AM
And before you turn it around on me, I don't want to quit and I don't hate this place.

Which ultimately makes you the biggest loser in this scenario. :love:

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 11:43 AM
it's 2011, posting on MBs from work isn't pathetic anymore

seriously i get so sick of fuckheads like you coming here, donating, and then bitching about how shitty it is and how everyone is a loser. HOW IS IT SO FUCKING HARD FOR YOU TO LEAVE??? Holy fuck!

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 11:45 AM
i mean, i don't hang out on messageboards where people are nice to each other and post their sigs that are two screens long after every single post and complain about how bad it sucks

Space Girl 1979
01-21-2011, 12:02 PM
:rofl:

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 12:03 PM
eh you love the attention

Space Girl 1979
01-21-2011, 12:09 PM
eh you love the attention

I love seeing you squirm. :love:

samuel redman
01-21-2011, 12:13 PM
I love seeing you squirm. :love:

if attention is what you want, you'll be happy to know i'll put you on ignore. congratulations though!

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 12:16 PM
I love seeing you squirm. :love:

you have a fascinating picture of reality

slunken
01-21-2011, 12:41 PM
it's true giant sigs are a sign of a shitty board full of teenagers

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 01:06 PM
one of my initiatives as a moderator was to make a rule that all sigs were no longer than was really necessary but over the years people realized posting the same fucking thing after every post was utterly, utterly lame.

Banana
01-21-2011, 01:14 PM
http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2011/01/15/shaman-encouraged-chamberlin-to-leave-smashing-pumpkins/]

lol wtf

Trotskilicious
01-21-2011, 01:47 PM
good luck on sunday banana, i was very impressed with the 31/36 last week.

croPUMPKINS
01-31-2011, 07:42 PM
Let' go over the list of very basic things Jimmy seems to not even realize are problems right now:

He gave the band an insanely generic name that was literally imposable to look up.

He has no web site.

He's so inept he seems to not even understand how basic and easy using a service like Facebook would be to tell people he has a new album.

He's so inept that he can't even seem to be able to just tell someone to create even a basic web site for him for free.

He's so inept he seems to not even be able to inform a site like Hipsters United of anything he is doing.

And worst of all. He is so inept that after a month of people not being able to find the album or even knowing it was released. What is the only problem on this whole list he deals with. The idiot changes the bands name a month AFTER they put out their first album.

Sorry I don't see any evidence that things are positive in his life. I see an out of control junky that has moved on from drugs to a new form of addiction.

you know what? it was probably because Durek told him release it that day cause the energy is positive, but today would be the good day to change the name cause it will bring even more positive energy that will speed up the sale...

kinda like Axl and Beta, who influenced him to kick everyone out and even made him cancel shows because aura is bad tha night at this and that venue.

To top your list, whilst still in Pumpkins, he assured us they will never make a record again on cd or any other physical form...

He did leave Bill, but they both use cd as media...

FoolofaTook
01-31-2011, 08:30 PM
You just had to reference Axl didn't you?